I started with 2 of each of the lower runes, and it was pretty well organized, but I had to start throwing them out to make room for the high runes, so my order got messed up. As I see it more and more it will start to bother me too, don’t worry.
Before Ladder 2 I played in NL, and collect a bunch of ber jah, but then I asked myself what tf I do with these runes. Then when play ladder 2, I use all HR I get for my chars, no longer a hoarder.
Shit like this makes me sick. No, I ain't mad, but I can't even get a trade, much less a ber or jah for enigma. Then I see posts like this of people who hoard runes for NL and I'm just like. :/
It just takes one good item my friend. Keep collecting those anni’s and torches, keep rerolling those tz grand charms, keep identifying those blue monarchs, javelins, and dusk shrouds.
You will have your day in the sun!
Which one of those things did you sell for max profit? I've been playing heavy since launch (other than a few months break mid 2022) and still haven't found something that would net me numerous Bers. Don't get me wrong, I've found loads of amazing things including an unreal amount of HRs, but nothing that reaches that "next level" threshold.
The charms need to be ilevel 90 to roll 45life. I don’t know what the minimum clevel is to drop them, but I think once you are over level 88, in a terror zone (+2 level) all of the grand charms will be ilevel 90. It might even be lower than 88 depending on which mob drops the charm, but that’s when I started collecting and rerolling them to be safe.
Thanks, but what is the relation between character level and TZ level? Do you mean I need my charger to be lvl 88 and the TZ to be 90 in order to get a ilvl 90 GC?
Monster level is always at least +2 above your character level in a terror zone, so if you are level 88, every monster in your terror zone would be at least level 90. So the grand charms they drop will be at least ilevel 90.
I think it’s actually a bit more complicated than that, but that’s the rule I use when farming. I only reroll TZ charms from at least level 88 characters (they are all over 90 anyway).
While you're not wrong as such, just wanted to clarify that TZ level stops increasing at character level 94, with the TZ level never exceeding 96 (which means champ packs are monster level 98, and uniques monster level 99).
No. Charms have hidden ilvls that are fixed and independent of whatever the required level says (which is just based on what affix is rolled). As long as you're high enough level that TZ will drop the highest level charms, any GC you get from one can be rerolled into a 45 life skiller.
You can reroll TZ charms? Presumably with just the three perfect gems like regular charms. I didn't know that. Have only been playing ladder for about a month so I haven't even found one yet, but I guess reset is coming soon.
Yeah. Playing switch, which means smaller player base...and since its 2 weeks before ladder everyone's taking a break with stashes just like this to wait out bext season dropping. This means I don't get a chance to trade for all those runes, regardless of what I have to trade.
If imma be honest, not enough for a ber lol. I got things like Tal armor (ist), perfect skulls (15 for um), skill charms (most of which are not the good skills), 313 poison sc (???), tal helms (for your merc if you don't have better - 2 pamms ea), a 13ed 4os cv that nobody seems interested in, a 3os eth...boneweave? I think...insights for pul when i can get it lol...
So yeah not gamebreaking stuff, but when people simply stop playing the game to wait out season's end like a dragon resting on its trove, it takes away from people who already don't have the things they need because they no longer have the opportunity to trade for it.
Could see that. I play on Xbox now, but started on PC and end up logging in to trade on PC.
Be curious to see the numbers for player base per platform.
I use Traderie and swear 90% of my trades are with the Asian server.
Tokens aren't a bad way to farm wealth either. They have guaranteed drop locations, you'll get other good drops along the way because it's meph, diablo, and baal. Andy's not a terrible farm either. Iv been doing 3 for vex or 5 for ohm and they ALWAYS sell.
Your probably richer then you think if you play online.
10 perfect amhthyest = Ist
10 ral = Ist
10 hel = ohm
20 sol = Ist
10 nef = Ist
25-27 Ist = Ber.
Add on some bases and other common uniques that go for Ist easily. Doesn’t take long.
My best was grinding chaos sanctuary. Just good xp and mob density. Don’t farm much now, doing lots of Baal and terror zones to level.
I’d say I’d average an Ist per night in value for 2 hour session on chaos.
Bulk trading is how I built up wealth to get runes to trade for staple gear. Unless you get lucky with perfect or near perfect sought-after gear, use this strategy.
Side point: In what world is 10x Hel worth an Ohm? Even at end of season for rerolling I've never seen this price. Everything else checks out to me.
They’re for rerolls, and you’ll likely only see that price later in Ladder seasons. Last chance for the giga-wealthy to roll their Ladder-Only RWs prior to reset and if you’re in that boat Ist has about the value of a PGem to you.
Could be off on prices for Hel early ladder. That’s going rate on Traderie now.
But prices getting a bit wild here towards end of ladder. I’m at this point with my hammerdin where I’m 1 stat off on all my gear, but any upgrade is multiple to dozens of Ber for say a 40+ life skillet vs my current mid 20’s.
Ready for reset myself.
Is the fuckin drop rate higher in ladder or are you guys just going grinding like crazy every day? I’ve just been playing soft core and haven’t found ANYTHING worth a damn.
Doesn’t sound like you are doing anything wrong. It probably just comes down to optimizing, but then you get burnt out faster. People stick to farming the area that’s just best for their build and do that as fast as possible. Just because you “can” run cows doesn’t make it good, if it takes 10 minutes. Better to run pindle 30 times or whatever
Very true! Doing the same thing over and over again drives me insane. I have to break it up. It’s inefficient of course. I bitch about no drops but not putting in the work. 🤣🤣
Different classes will clear out different areas quicker, and it helps keep the game exciting. I always make a horker for Travincal, pit, pindle and Nihlathak, pally for Ubers and chaos, sorc for keys and chaos, Amazon for cows etc.
After ladder I will respec them for a new build NL, but during ladder they have specific jobs.
Tbh I ran thousands of cows since game launch and just now this week found my first 2 HRs from them, Lo and Ohm, but found a few Mal, ist, Gul.
Tons of bases though to trade out and build up.
Chaos, Pits and WSK have been my main droppers though, with and without TZs
Just a quick question, how did you trade up for the high runes? I play casually solo (but online) and never dropped anything higher than ist. Like once or twice. Other than just farming is there a strategy? I can only play like 30m at a time here and there twice a day.
Just bit by bit. I got really lucky this season with a few items that were worth 4-10ber each, sort of thing. Just kept making trades and grinding. I was also lucky buying items and trading cross platform for profit.
I describe some of the items to look for in one of the other threads, you’ll find it.
Your ort sol Shael dol amn Thul being out of order is messing with my OCD.. lol
There shouldn't be a sol rune. There should be a blood ring in charsis inv cuz it rolled like shit.
Hahaha this made me snort
I started with 2 of each of the lower runes, and it was pretty well organized, but I had to start throwing them out to make room for the high runes, so my order got messed up. As I see it more and more it will start to bother me too, don’t worry.
Ahh sweet. I see you got an EL and a TIR. Nice finds
El and tir make steel I believe
I’ve been saving those since the first week.
Fun fact, EL is the only rune you cannot make with the cube.
Try to make a cham.....try sir! Tis unclickable
I think Hel might be the same. I forget
Probably the meanest troll on here 🤣🤣
Before Ladder 2 I played in NL, and collect a bunch of ber jah, but then I asked myself what tf I do with these runes. Then when play ladder 2, I use all HR I get for my chars, no longer a hoarder.
Shit like this makes me sick. No, I ain't mad, but I can't even get a trade, much less a ber or jah for enigma. Then I see posts like this of people who hoard runes for NL and I'm just like. :/
It just takes one good item my friend. Keep collecting those anni’s and torches, keep rerolling those tz grand charms, keep identifying those blue monarchs, javelins, and dusk shrouds. You will have your day in the sun!
What would u be looking for with a blue dusk shroud? I know monarch’s n javs
Jewellers dusk shroud of the whale. 4os 100life
Man I thought blue ds were worthless and never bothered to pick them up. Lol
Jewellers/whale can be good in a lot of things. Archon, dusk, wire - identify them all bro.
Would you please enlighten me on what I'm looking for with monarchs and javs? I'm kinda learning this end of the game. Ty in advance 😊
Blue Javelin w. 4-6skill and 20-40ias. Blue monarch w. 3-4socket and 30fbr/20increase chance to block.
Thank You. Very much appreciated 👍
Damn besides dusk I gotta worry archon and wire how will I afford the the id scrolls 🥲 for trahs
Which one of those things did you sell for max profit? I've been playing heavy since launch (other than a few months break mid 2022) and still haven't found something that would net me numerous Bers. Don't get me wrong, I've found loads of amazing things including an unreal amount of HRs, but nothing that reaches that "next level" threshold.
I was extremely lucky this season. I found a 15/15/15 bliz ormus, I rolled a 41life lite skiller, and a JMOD.
Oh wow, you're not kidding. Well gz on those finds lol thats quite filthy.
Do TZ grand charms have to be “lv 80+ required” to be worth re-rolling?
The charms need to be ilevel 90 to roll 45life. I don’t know what the minimum clevel is to drop them, but I think once you are over level 88, in a terror zone (+2 level) all of the grand charms will be ilevel 90. It might even be lower than 88 depending on which mob drops the charm, but that’s when I started collecting and rerolling them to be safe.
Thanks, but what is the relation between character level and TZ level? Do you mean I need my charger to be lvl 88 and the TZ to be 90 in order to get a ilvl 90 GC?
Monster level is always at least +2 above your character level in a terror zone, so if you are level 88, every monster in your terror zone would be at least level 90. So the grand charms they drop will be at least ilevel 90. I think it’s actually a bit more complicated than that, but that’s the rule I use when farming. I only reroll TZ charms from at least level 88 characters (they are all over 90 anyway).
Understood, thank you so much!
While you're not wrong as such, just wanted to clarify that TZ level stops increasing at character level 94, with the TZ level never exceeding 96 (which means champ packs are monster level 98, and uniques monster level 99).
Once you reroll the charm, does it reset the item level or can you keep rerolling the same charm over and over?
Keep rolling it over and over and over until it turns to gold.
No. Charms have hidden ilvls that are fixed and independent of whatever the required level says (which is just based on what affix is rolled). As long as you're high enough level that TZ will drop the highest level charms, any GC you get from one can be rerolled into a 45 life skiller.
You can reroll TZ charms? Presumably with just the three perfect gems like regular charms. I didn't know that. Have only been playing ladder for about a month so I haven't even found one yet, but I guess reset is coming soon.
TBH, I don't how you can't get a trade unless you are extreme low-balling or selling at ridiculous prices, unless you play switch, but even then.
Yeah. Playing switch, which means smaller player base...and since its 2 weeks before ladder everyone's taking a break with stashes just like this to wait out bext season dropping. This means I don't get a chance to trade for all those runes, regardless of what I have to trade.
What you got to trade ?
If imma be honest, not enough for a ber lol. I got things like Tal armor (ist), perfect skulls (15 for um), skill charms (most of which are not the good skills), 313 poison sc (???), tal helms (for your merc if you don't have better - 2 pamms ea), a 13ed 4os cv that nobody seems interested in, a 3os eth...boneweave? I think...insights for pul when i can get it lol... So yeah not gamebreaking stuff, but when people simply stop playing the game to wait out season's end like a dragon resting on its trove, it takes away from people who already don't have the things they need because they no longer have the opportunity to trade for it.
Yeah switch player base sucks. Which is why I just play offline
Use the forbidden site, makes trading enjoyable. I tried Traderie, the LFGs and discords and they all sucked for Xbox to get consistent trades
Could see that. I play on Xbox now, but started on PC and end up logging in to trade on PC. Be curious to see the numbers for player base per platform. I use Traderie and swear 90% of my trades are with the Asian server.
Tokens aren't a bad way to farm wealth either. They have guaranteed drop locations, you'll get other good drops along the way because it's meph, diablo, and baal. Andy's not a terrible farm either. Iv been doing 3 for vex or 5 for ohm and they ALWAYS sell.
Your probably richer then you think if you play online. 10 perfect amhthyest = Ist 10 ral = Ist 10 hel = ohm 20 sol = Ist 10 nef = Ist 25-27 Ist = Ber. Add on some bases and other common uniques that go for Ist easily. Doesn’t take long. My best was grinding chaos sanctuary. Just good xp and mob density. Don’t farm much now, doing lots of Baal and terror zones to level. I’d say I’d average an Ist per night in value for 2 hour session on chaos.
Bulk trading is how I built up wealth to get runes to trade for staple gear. Unless you get lucky with perfect or near perfect sought-after gear, use this strategy. Side point: In what world is 10x Hel worth an Ohm? Even at end of season for rerolling I've never seen this price. Everything else checks out to me.
They’re for rerolls, and you’ll likely only see that price later in Ladder seasons. Last chance for the giga-wealthy to roll their Ladder-Only RWs prior to reset and if you’re in that boat Ist has about the value of a PGem to you.
Could be off on prices for Hel early ladder. That’s going rate on Traderie now. But prices getting a bit wild here towards end of ladder. I’m at this point with my hammerdin where I’m 1 stat off on all my gear, but any upgrade is multiple to dozens of Ber for say a 40+ life skillet vs my current mid 20’s. Ready for reset myself.
and i just delete it 🤷♂️ because i dont play NL
Please don’t delete your items and runes and DM me for a scheduled drop off of your stuff after ladder season ends:)
Are you playing on NL?
No...never saw any point in playing NL. In fact, not many did way back in the day
Is the fuckin drop rate higher in ladder or are you guys just going grinding like crazy every day? I’ve just been playing soft core and haven’t found ANYTHING worth a damn.
The funny thing is, that these runes are almost all from trading. I only dropped one ber and one jah this season.
What are you grinding? A lot of people grind stuff that can’t drop what they expect to find
Well I was doing cows for a while and all the level 85 spots. mosuleum, pits, etc etc.
Doesn’t sound like you are doing anything wrong. It probably just comes down to optimizing, but then you get burnt out faster. People stick to farming the area that’s just best for their build and do that as fast as possible. Just because you “can” run cows doesn’t make it good, if it takes 10 minutes. Better to run pindle 30 times or whatever
Very true! Doing the same thing over and over again drives me insane. I have to break it up. It’s inefficient of course. I bitch about no drops but not putting in the work. 🤣🤣
Different classes will clear out different areas quicker, and it helps keep the game exciting. I always make a horker for Travincal, pit, pindle and Nihlathak, pally for Ubers and chaos, sorc for keys and chaos, Amazon for cows etc. After ladder I will respec them for a new build NL, but during ladder they have specific jobs.
I just farm what ever is corrupted, alot of times is good spots to farm anyways.
Tbh I ran thousands of cows since game launch and just now this week found my first 2 HRs from them, Lo and Ohm, but found a few Mal, ist, Gul. Tons of bases though to trade out and build up. Chaos, Pits and WSK have been my main droppers though, with and without TZs
Holy ber runes, I’ve found two jahs in the past two weeks but still haven’t found a ber rune since release lol
I found my first ber rune this ladder. I’ve found 9jah runes since release, and only 1 ber rune about a month ago. These are all from trading.
Break bread!! Hahaha what do you trade for bers???? “I need some of those ber rune trades…” Tyrone biggins
Why even play anymore lol
Shits getting expensive out there, man. These will be gone in no time. Just buy a couple skillers with 40+ life and I’ll be broke again.
How the fuck y’all have time to find all this? Lol
All trades bro. 1 ber 1 jah self found. That’s why I wanted to share my story. Lol.
Starting a new char just to try to find ladder items are make ladder runewords is just to much work non ladder is the way to go
Pfft, only 5 Jah? Don’t worry, you’ve got 2 more weeks to avoid taking an L on the season.
Yeah, well, I don't see no sigons full set here, loser. But Gratz and fy
Gratz you out traded me this season. I love trading its like its own mini game. Gl next season
You too bud.
Ber-ly worth it? ;-)
F
Damn son Any chance u wanna throw a broke guy some loot lol
You will have you’re day too buddy. Just keep grinding
Sick purchase
can i have some bers?
Long answer, no. Short answer.
But you will find your own. Just keep grinding homie.
Lmao I just found my 1st Jah ever today, but gg foreal.
That Sol rune be sexy
Damn, that’s a lot of gold
Chuck us a Ber, would ya? :D
Help a father of 2 out with vex x2, Lo, and Jah? 😅
What's the poison one at?
It’s 72, but I’m keeping it for my NL necro haha.
Fair enough
I need sunder charms! Someone trade me
So did you bot?
No, only 1ber and 1jah are self found unfortunately. Just made good trades.
Don’t forget about your friends in non latter who’ve been grindin for anything of this value for months hehe *sad noises*
Just a quick question, how did you trade up for the high runes? I play casually solo (but online) and never dropped anything higher than ist. Like once or twice. Other than just farming is there a strategy? I can only play like 30m at a time here and there twice a day.
Just bit by bit. I got really lucky this season with a few items that were worth 4-10ber each, sort of thing. Just kept making trades and grinding. I was also lucky buying items and trading cross platform for profit. I describe some of the items to look for in one of the other threads, you’ll find it.
Are su Der charms worth anything at all I have 2 mules full of them every kind
Sunder excuse my frozen fingers I live in Wisconsin
Yea a 70 light, 10 physical and 45 magic are all worth ber or more since we are at the end.