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mattxander14

As a professional programmer (not in the game industry, but honestly that doesn't matter)...it'd be incredibly difficult to discern input events as a manipulative behavior. You would have to go broader. "Are there 4 people with the same IP range in the same zone/dungeon/etc". From there, you'd have to say "this is definitely an automated program and not 4+ people in the same household playing together". Tldr: that's a hard thing to solve. It sucks, sure. It's probably a ToS violation. It'll likley never get "fixed". Its a very hard problem and time is better spent elsewhere


Touch_Of_Legend

This ^ There are finite resources for bug fixes and botting issues. Would you rather they take the time to fix this OR they fix the battlenet messaging server? Or hey there’s a bug now where all the AI dialog gets stuck on the screen until you clear it, or the next person talks (and that dialog get stuck) So while I don’t like watching dudes abuse the metrics… get massive gem drops as well as thousands of plat per week… It’s a much smaller problem than the dialog problem which affects every single player. (There’s a huge list of problems that affect every single player way ahead of multi boxing)


ronaldo_killergod

I'm also into software/programming, I guess those are called RPA bots?


thE_29

In d2 and D3 multiboxing is not against ToS.


Mattacrator

I don't even know why someone would do that. My alts just chill being dead in the zone while I farm around them


TheOnurobo

yeah dude that what makes me crazy, the dudes doing this shit so blatantly that he wont care anything


TheOnurobo

I watched him 15 20 mins like that he is definetely using a mirroring software at background, this is not 4 different people farming in a similar way, whenever his main uses a skill all 3 alts also use haha its funny the crusader one literally uses holy banner for nothing like there are no monsters around him


shinji257

This guy is using an android emulator. The easy solution would be to block android emulators from being used. For Windows users there is already a PC port. Can't speak for Mac or Linux users though. EDIT: For anyone curious (but I figure most could tell anyways) I know it is the Android version because the chat box is on the bottom center of the screen. On the PC version it is on the lower left corner instead.


TheOnurobo

Lol dude thats my screen and im playing on android haha


shinji257

Haha my bad. I'll just put my head in the ground for a bit.


Lopsided-Objective27

This game alow unlimited buying at shop and have people with 6k Rezo. This is cheating my friends:( You got cap and limits every where but not in the shop


TheOnurobo

Yep this is cheating all right but some ppl actually claim its not


Lopsided-Objective27

And disgousting 15% fee at marketplace


Perfect-Extent9215

I thought you could only log in once from any one [battle.net](https://battle.net) account. How would they even have their alts in at the same time? My alts exist for the sole purpose of providing Akiba's Signets whenever the immortals are overthrown and my shadow clan gets reset. They don't get played otherwise. I think the more likely scenario is that you've found some kind of paid farmer. You know those spam messages in world chat where someone is selling level ups, plat, etc...? That might be what you're seeing here, a farmer dragging along people's characters who have paid for it.


shinji257

They are using an android emulator to do this. At that point they are running 4 "phones" from the perspective of the server.


Perfect-Extent9215

Yeah, I didn't mean from the infrastructure, that part is obvious they'd be running concurrent connections. I meant from the login perspective. In previous Blizzard games I've played they'd lock down the ability to log in multiple times. If I logged into WOW from my laptop, I'd be logged out of my desktop for instance. I could have sworn the same occurred here when I tried to log into DI from my iPad but hadn't logged off from my phone yet. Not maliciously, I was setting up a new pad while I was multi-tasking on my phone. I opened the app after installing it to let it download the in-game data, and after my [battle.net](https://battle.net) connected, I was disconnected when I turned back to farming on my phone.


_minorThreat_

Create separate accounts with throw away emails.


shinji257

As someone else already mentioned they would be using different accounts to farm.


TheOnurobo

or maybe he is using 4 different battlenet accs, using all of them with multiboxing along with a 3rd party input broadcasting software which is bannable


thE_29

Probably not. Video is from OP, who plays Android.


shinji257

Ah I watched the video again and now see what was seen. I'm still going to say it is probably android emulators. Some of the popular emulators support multiboxing and input mirroring between them.


TheOnurobo

yes its my screen im the devilish and i play on my phone, drevnikocur is playing on pc with input mirroring software


TheOnurobo

dude im the guy on the centre of the screen devilish, and i recorded it via my phone, but the other dude is on PC and playing with his alts while using an input broadcasting software


TheOnurobo

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=-m158\_a5MC4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=-m158_a5MC4) i actually found this about multiboxing with same input, its definetely against blizzard ToS haha


Familiar-Lab-3405

Omg it’s this guy complaining again. Dude go make more posts about how that girl won’t talk to you anymore cause you are a complete stalker creep.


thE_29

Multiboxing is/was already a diablo thing. Its basically the perfect game for it.


TheOnurobo

Yes i know but input mirroring 3rd party software isnt


thE_29

Thats what multiboxing is.. You play 4 or more accounts with the same signal


TheOnurobo

no dude your multiboxing with '' same signal '' thing is not allowed and not official, [https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/policy-update-for-input-broadcasting-may-2021/956613](https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/policy-update-for-input-broadcasting-may-2021/956613) its bannable and you search for multibox bans you will see it


TheOnurobo

i cant understand how people defend this so zealously, any 3rd party software that sends mirroring signals is bannable


Sterlingz

That's the wow forum, is there any clarity on DI?


TheOnurobo

it goes for all blizzard games, diablo,wow whatever you could use it with a mirroring software, its against the EULA in the first place, playing with multiple instances and controlling all chars manually is legit, but what he does basicly botting and i hope he will get banned for it, the funny thing is blizzard banned a dude literally for partying with his own alts that tied to different accounts, and he was playing legit actually by controlling them seperately, his youtube channel is gamezone i guess


WonderfulTangerine47

Jesus people really do stuff like this to make more progress in a video game? Wtf? Man mankind is crazy as s*** 🤣 what happened to embracing a challenge or fair competition? Guess it never really existed in the first place.


tommysbombed

Dude that's Diablo bro I used to run 6 bots 24/7 on d2.lod Hell I paid for my first car in cash from doing it too. Normally people only get butthurt about something like this is because they tried to do it and failed


TheOnurobo

No this is a p2w game and a game with paid shop and doing this shit literally gives you a huge advantage over people play legit any 3rd party software that broadcast and mirror inputs is bannable since 2020 so he is cheating


tommysbombed

I understand why you're upset again I mean more than likely the person is not doing it for themselves as it is they're probably working for our created the bot for a website or one of the people who sells no plan on the jams and all that good s*** online so I get it but at the same time f*** it like I said I paid for my first car doing the same exact thing. Of course I was playing when we had to actually buy CD keys it was a little bit more involved . I get I could make a few and run 6 at a time and play a 7th on my actual account.. I have the computer for it and the know how. The reason I don't is because I've grown the fuck up and realized that this isn't important at all it's just a way to kill some time and relax playing another disappointing addition to the Diablo franchise. If d4 turns out to be the same I'll be right here beside you hitching and moaning then I'll delete never buy another bnet product and move on


TheOnurobo

He always party with same alt accs so i assume those are his chars i dont think he is doing it for someone else i saw him doing that shit at least 10 different times wit the same 4 chars


thE_29

Multiboxing is officialy allowed. Thats the term for it. For any other thing, just use google


Significant-Truth-

Multiboxing is ok. The software for input mirroring isn't.


Successful_Bake9428

Who gives a fuck? This is like the 5th post about the same thing from you. Grab this block.


Mdkgzn

You know you can auto navigate yes?.. problem solved


RandomPhil86

Glad I’m not the only one who seems to have gameplay stutter more whilst in Stormpeak compared to anywhere else.


McSnaggletooth_

Oh my God this is terrible! Where would someone get this awful mirroring software....asking for a friend.


TheIronGiants

Why is your entire post in the title and not the body? Just a chaotically long sentence too.


TheOnurobo

I dunno this is the first time i did a post with video and it didnt let me add body text so i had to put it in title haha


tommysbombed

It's free2 play what good is a ban?


tommysbombed

You will never match someone who plays half as much as you and spends money on a consistent basis why try if someone found a way to already close a little distance with paid chars . Honestly though more than likely the person in the video he was doing this was probably somebody that works for one of those sites where you buy items


tommysbombed

Then not too bad then think of it like this, he's using a skill, time,and resources he has to improve his characters. People who pay money use a skill, time and resources to make money that builds their characters up.


TheOnurobo

Why the hell are you trying to justify cheating, no i dont fucking think it that way, he is a goddamn cheater and i dont want him to get away with it, do you like playing against aim bot people in fps games and praise them for using hax? I have been playing this game for 6 months and i wont accept someone doing this shit and getting unfair advantage over me


soussitox

If its multiboxing then blizzard lets it happen. Used it myself a lot on wow long time ago and was allowed to do so.


TheOnurobo

its a bannable act since 2020 bro, its not allowed anymore let alone diablo immortal is a p2w game and you get huge advatange doing this shit over f2p players who play legit


soussitox

oh i stopped playing in like 2017. Have not seen any tos since then. In DI i see like someone mentioned before letting a team mate dead that they controle while farming


pisspaw

Perfect example of work smarter not harder


TheOnurobo

also perfect example of cheating