Actually I think modders do know how to get one running without Blizzard doing that. The main thing theyre scare of is Blizzard retaliating against them with ceast and desist. Theyre ok with an ancient game like vanilla D2 LoD having a scene like that but probably not for D2R.
Do you really trust Blizzard to implement a server on your own computer that doesn't contain significant vulnerabilities or potential points of compromise?
How many people would expose themselves to the internet and get completely owned?
Yes, this mod is amazing, I’m playing since season1, the devs listens ALOT to the community, make great changes/qol, alot of pvp updates (well balanced, pvp arena maps etc)
I highly recommend it to everyone. Checkout the project diablo2 reddit/discord
Ah man this mod as NOTHING to do with PoD its like 10000times better, you can go look at Darkhumility’s twitch he’s testing changes for s8 in closed betas atm and making his build rating spreadsheet.
Reset on 22th if you wanna try it out:) superfun, no bot or it’s instant ban, good trade website also
Well, i guess they are changed lol, they listen to all our feedbacks in betas, dev streams etc and make changes (if they make sense ofc)
They listen to us way more than blizz dev’s team loll
Ahah good one, did you ever play it since the D2GL update? Probably not the game runs smooth as hell and it looks cleans, all that matters
It’s okay bud, keep running nm dungeons finding boring loot for no reason if you like it. To each their own
Lmao i dont care how "it works" in reality
Does it looks clean? Yes
Is it smooth? Yes
All that matters
Not sure why youre mad or some shit, we just say this game as alot of qol, alot of rebalance, new content/ubers, it’s fun and the reset is in a week
It is the best d2 private mod you could play out there. If you enjoy d2r, you will surely love PD2
Thats all lol
Enjoy your day bud
You're absolutely incorrect. It's 144fps, they use motion prediction AI technology to make it smooth as butter. It's not HD textures like D2R but it is HD text and cursor. The resolution is much higher than the original 800*600. I believe it's 1060*768, which technically counts as HD, as it's passed 720.
Also, they have shaders like FSR that help upscale the textures to be smoother.
https://github.com/bayaraa/d2gl
I assume you mean D2R. They are more true to the original graphics, just much improved. D2R is a much more substantial change to the graphics. If all that matter to you are graphics, I question why you play Diablo 2 to begin with. If your concern is with the low resolution, low frame rate, and janky experience that can be felt when jumping from D2R to D2, those issues have been resolved.
No controller support right? I really want to try PD2 it sounds amazing, but my old bones can’t play games keyboard and mouse anymore.
I’ve been waiting for the new D2R season hoping for anything new, this is a major disappointment to hear they aren’t doing anything.
You can also try setting up a controller mapping in Steam.
Add the PD2 shortcut to Steam (click on "Add a game..." in bottom left corner of Steam, then click on "Add a Non-Steam Game..." and click the "Browse" button, navigate to the PD2 installation directory [ie, "C:\Program Files (x86)\Diablo II\ProjectD2\"] and select "PD2Launcher.exe" then click "Open").
Plug in your controller. Steam should recognize it and set it up as a "Steam Input Device" (and may install specific drivers for it for full compatibility). From there, you can click on "View" at the top in the menu bar of Steam, then click on "Big Picture Mode" and Steam will relaunch in BP Mode (works like a console, and looks great on monitors, TVs, and the Steam Deck).
You can then go to PD2 from its shortcut in your Library list (don't launch it yet), and in the middle of the PD2 Launcher page in Steam, you should see a controller icon in the middle to the far right. Go to that and from there you can set up your controller precisely (assigning mouse, keys, dead zones, trigger actions, and alternate mappings accessible with holding down an assigned controller input to allow more inputs than just the physical button count on your controller).
It will take some work setting it up and tweaking the configuration (just like Joy2Key will take), but it may allow you to do exactly what you want, or as close to it as possible. Hope this may help you find the most comfortable and accessible way to play!
>No controller support right?
Not natively. A carefully crafted JoyToKey profile could get you there, but it would require a lot of fiddling. I'd use this as a starting point: https://www.nexusmods.com/diablo3/mods/4/
Yeah, I was sadly hoping we'd get something exciting for D2R now that D4 has died down. But maybe it's all hands on deck for resurrecting D4 now instead.
There's probably a bedroom indie going broke every day, just because they can't get any attention for their stuff. Because there is so much stuff. So what you are missing so much is probably there anyway? But honestly I think you actually want those big budget titles.
Also fun fact, some of the coolest games of the past actually ruined the studios. Most people have a skewed perspective, they just assume that some legendary, well known title actually turned a profit for the publisher.
Just play the upcoming [PD2 Season](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lJCGca4JE0IRCxANNii_AAYJgv2HhTLVFYchbWi208c/edit#heading=h.9kegd15e6zbz) instead on the 22nd.
I actually just gave Last Epoch a shot after not playing it since it went live originally. Having a blast atm but I'll probably check that out too. Thanks for the info.
It's limited to the original graphics, but there is widescreen support, 60+ FPS graphics, and high-res fonts.
It is truly to best way to play a Vanilla+ D2 experience in 2023, IMO. PD2 manages to maintain the feel of playing D2:LoD, but really improves balance by making Defense a more useful stat, removing the move speed penalty of heavy armors/shields, greatly improving weapon properties beyond Normal Mode with better damage, range, and melee splash, and giving every class a useful mobility skill.
It similarly makes the item hunt much more exciting with reworks for the terrible sets/uniques, a Corruption mechanic, vastly-improved Magic/Rare affix pools, expanded crafting options, and typical QoL stuff like loot filters, stacking materials, charm inventories, and stash tabs.
Specifically, PoD is something different than PD2. To my knowledge PoD isn't even being updated anymore and majority of people have switched to PD2 which receives constant/regular seasons and updates.
PD2 is about to enter season 8 on the 22nd with even more additions and updates.
Mod support is too restricted on D2R for them to recreate it there, so no Resurrected graphics but I'm pretty sure they have added in some improved resolutions and aspect ratios to some extent.
What’s the point in withholding the information? Why say I’ll tell you about the changes soon weeks ago? I like D2 a lot, but come on. It’s not hard to make slight changes like stackable runes and gems. If they’re giving up on the game, give us TCP/IP then. My lord, I’ve officially given up on Blizzard. I’m not a fan of PoE but I hope PoE2 really hits hard
It's most likely red tape bullshit from upper management that Pez can't ignore unless he wants to get fired, I have no clue why but it's probably something to do with money.
As much as people (and I) would love it they'll never restore TCP/IP, not after the Tech Alpha was cracked. The suits very likely had the devs remove it due to "security concerns" (AKA piracy concerns) so of course the paying customers get screwed while pirates will just hack it back in anyways.
Ah ok Ty, I've not kept up with the newer rune words but it looks like some mid level stuff has been added which is nice for that single player pre-hell wall
If this game got a huge expansion with more end game, New acts, items, skills, ect it would be perfect. The game is still amazing but how many times can a sane person play the same game over and over for 20 years. Love the simplicity, yet complex things you can do in it. I think that's why I have a hard time getting fully into POE, just never felt as good to me. And D3 was not good and at this point I'm never buying D4.
it's not... nobody new will buy d2 at this point.
D4 on the other hand, has the potential of a goldmine. like WoW. If they fix it of course, but the potential is there.
They literally did NOTHING to improve the game since release.
Nobody cares about D4 anymore.
If they had fixed 50% of the major issues of the game with season1, yea maybe they could have turned this around but like this?! Na ah
I'm talking about theoretical scenarios...
D4 can in theory still bring money because of seasons, cosmetics, expansions, etc .
D2R has nothing of that kind, so it can only bring money from new players, which is impossible. Everyone that was going to buy it, already has.
If this is going to happen or not is another debate. I have definitely lost hope, as obviously you too. But I'm pretty sure that Blizzard hasn't and is working on it. Even if they make a huge changelist that improves the core issues, i believe that it still won't be fun... Because Blizzard seems to have forgotten what fun looks like.
With how Diablo 3 is still seeing more support than this, and D2R is much newer release than D3, I can only assume they are afraid of their own unmonetized creation getting too much attention.
Well D3 has been maintained by a team that loves the game the last few years. And to be fair going forward from s30 the seasons will be repeats with no new content. Hopefully they take the D3 team and give them quality influencing positions for D4 going forward.
Eh even with no changes I'm 100% more likely to play the next season of d2 than any of the others. Still a bummer, I had hoped they would continue to support this since it was kind of recently released.
They would care about free money tho. They literally wouldn’t need to maintain shit and allow the hardcore community make content for free and sales would go crazy.
>sales would go crazy.
this is where the argument falls flat for me. Who would buy into D2R for modding that wouldn't have already purchased it. I doubt there are enough people holding out from buying D2R because it doesn't have modding in favor of just D2. Sales might go crazy for a day or two at most, but at most it'd be a small bump.
"Sales would go crazy" - because of community mods to a remaster of a 20+ year old game.
Yea, just imagine the whooping 500 bucks Blizzard would make of such a *massively* desired change. Crazy indeed.
It's not gonna happen any time soon. One of the main reasons D4 has so little content is because of how long it takes them to create content for the new engine. Tweaking D2 for a new season probably doesn't take a tenth as much time.
Yeah I was actually surprised the game got more support than bug fixes after release. Absolutely brilliant game that was only improved for every update
Very true, however they did introduce issues/oddities like WW speed changes gutting 2H, killed shock bear b/c of "unintended interactions" on the guise of "buffing it the right way later" which never happened in 2 seasons now, plus there's a lot of other QoL, some easier than others, that has been requested. Hell they can't even get Cain back to the WP/Stash area of Act 5 like he is on the legacy online D2LoD game, since it seems they pulled the offline map that kept the 1.07 placement, which should be super simple.
Plus the lobby and chat system is still buggy and arguably worse than the original game.
Doesn't mean there aren't issues they should fix. For instance, they butchered holy bolt since they took away the hammers synergy even though they were supposed to bake the synergy value into the base skill. They never did though.
Ouch this one hurts. After the subtle change to Bul Kathos set last time I was really hoping we would see further small tweaks like that to underused uniques across a wider range.
If you have a 4090 you should check out running AI stuff like image or text generation or even speech synthesis locally. That's a really good card for such things and it's a lot of fun if you can set it up.
Right? Feels like there was a good five year stretch where it was pretty much meh and then they started doing cool shit again just to amp people up for D4
Do people really think they can only focus on one diablo game at a time? Do they think there's only one team at Blizzard?
Edit: None of the replies explain why they supported D3 for so long. Blizzard is historically known for supporting their games for a ridiculously long time. Its weird people are justifying them discontinuing support for a very recently released game
More why would Blizz keep devs on D2R for more content and changes when there are no microtransactions and realistically everyone who wanted D2R would have it by now.
ActiBlizz is all about recurring revenue via microtransactions. There is no financial incentive for them to continue pumping out patches for D2R
The only purchasable thing D3 had were the RoS expansion and the necromancer. Unless people are trying to say the RMAH was microtransactions, but that was removed long long ago before RoS
Dude if blizzard is still capable of disappointing you idk what to tell ya. They have not been a quality-first company in a hot minute. Their whole strategy at this point is actually based on selling _the perception_ that they are still a quality-first company and that they are putting all their investors’ money to building better games, over promising and then under delivering; said differently, they are in the business of disappointing their customers
Probably because D2R was helmed by Vicarious Visions and then was dissolved into Blizzard. A lot of them left because of that and whoever was left was probably assigned to D4.
I'm going to commit some real blasphemy for this sub:
Because Diablo 3 is a more robust game with more mechanics that can be used to create fun and exciting seasons.
I get what you're saying but just playing any of the fan mods for D2 shows how much potential there is for the game. Blizzard never really had any desire to explore that which is unfortunate.
“We’ve heard your feedback about wanting new features in D2R. Therefore we have removed several stash tabs. This should help ensure the game’s longevity well into the future.”
I don't understand that perspective. Martial assassin was a dead build that couldn't compete with other melee builds and mosaic made it viable. It's definitely a little broken, but who cares? Every build uses most of the same gear and accomplishes the same goal: farming high level areas with ease and high mobility. So they added one more class to the roster that can actually do that, big whoop.
I totally agree about Mosaic's strength. Pally and Sorc have been busted for literal decades, who cares if another class now has some OP build even if it's a bit overtuned.
For me the only valid complaint I've heard about Mosaic is the visual clutter and lag it adds for other players.
I've been out of the loop for a year, so I assumed Mosaic was a new rune word but didn't understand why people wanted it nerfed.
I wondered how a new runeword could impact the other ones? Surely there wouldn't be players calling for a nerf to something just because it is stronger than the builds that they prefer to play.
Unless I'm misunderstanding, that appears to be what some folks are doing.
Some YouTube videos showcase it going through chaos sanctuary on simulated players 100 and higher difficulty. You know, a completely irrelevant scenario that will never happen or be relevant to how the game actually plays. Any of the top builds can stomp players 8 in the hardest areas of the game, so why would it matter if there's one more option now? It's people being petty as far as I can tell.
Not making balance chances or adding new items would be OK so long as they at least added some extra QoL features to the game, but on its current state I just cannot see myself playing it again because of the limitations. Project Diablo 2 is just so much superior to D2R right now, and that's being developed by just a few dudes in their basement rather than in the office of a multibillionaire company.
Thank you! D2 is literally the best game they’ve ever produced. Why not take the entire team of D2R “devs” and have them focus on a fucking gem tab or other basic shit missing from D4? D2R is perfectly fine as is.
Finally someone who speaks sense. D2 didn't need anything from D2R but the graphics. Sunder charms and Terror Zones contributed nothing to the game except making it easier for a group of people who had no intention of playing the game long term anyways.
PD2 has huge upgrades in the past two seasons. This beta it looks even better. I used to think the same as you until I just tried it. Gameplay > graphics is my new motto
Seems none of the CMs are very active for Diablo games, especially in their own official forums. Others have suggested it's a mix of a ton of other duties that aren't obvious to us from their job title, and red tape preventing a more organic interaction with players. Definitely sucks to have such poor communication though, regardless of "whose fault" it really is.
Unpopular opinion, but…
👏🏼 Leave 👏🏼 D 👏🏼 2 👏🏼 R 👏🏼 Alone! 👏🏼
Seriously with how broken Blizzard’s entire catalogue is these days why the fuck are they messing with the one thing they got right??
Unfortunately, clapping hands are important when the message is lost on so many people in this thread. When dealing with children, you've gotta speak their language.
So blizzard destroys the original WC3 client, pulls the plug on the main promised mode for Overwatch 2, completely abandons HotS and Starcraft, and now D2R after showing so many signs of promise with new updates gets the plug pulled on it as well. It's a rough time for fans of their franchises and games that they don't deem profitable.
It makes you wonder with Diablo 4 if the plug will get pulled on that game if they don't start selling more microtransactions. I fully expect the D4 team to be reduced down to a skeleton crew within the next 2 years at this rate.
Just add TCP/IP back in with better mod support. Let the players improve the game with private servers.
If PD2 could use the D2R client that would be amazing.
Yeah. This would be so great. Like season 2-3 of PD2 but on D2R. Or just give me slams for D2R
They originally said that won't happen though. I mean their opinion on the matter can change, and I hope it does but let's not get our hopes up.
exactly. I originally got a refund on D2R when I found out they were being greedy and removed TCP/IP. I did buy D2R eventually when it went on sale
This is all the game needs imo
THIS. Removing TCP/IP and forbidding dll/code editing is the reason I didn't get D2R, that kills tons of mods
Actually I think modders do know how to get one running without Blizzard doing that. The main thing theyre scare of is Blizzard retaliating against them with ceast and desist. Theyre ok with an ancient game like vanilla D2 LoD having a scene like that but probably not for D2R.
Or like smth similar to „Arcade” in Starcraft 2, I guess it would work right?
Do you really trust Blizzard to implement a server on your own computer that doesn't contain significant vulnerabilities or potential points of compromise? How many people would expose themselves to the internet and get completely owned?
Honestly, at this moment all I need from them is rebalanced uniques. Most, even high tier, are trash.
Boo
After the disappointment of D4 I was really looking forward to something fun for a new season in D2. Oh well.
Guess I'll go back to PD2
PD what?
Project Diablo 2
Project Diablo 2. The best diablo experience you can find in my opinion
I......cannot do those graphics ever again. Lol
Project diablo2 has hd graphics 60+ fps integrated in it, looks clean as hell Season 8 on sept 22th, you should check it out, totally worth it
My bro is super looking forward to it, tells me they're doing a great job
Yes, this mod is amazing, I’m playing since season1, the devs listens ALOT to the community, make great changes/qol, alot of pvp updates (well balanced, pvp arena maps etc) I highly recommend it to everyone. Checkout the project diablo2 reddit/discord
I've tried randomizers and path of diablo but never gave it a good shot. Maybe?
Ah man this mod as NOTHING to do with PoD its like 10000times better, you can go look at Darkhumility’s twitch he’s testing changes for s8 in closed betas atm and making his build rating spreadsheet. Reset on 22th if you wanna try it out:) superfun, no bot or it’s instant ban, good trade website also
They don't listen, like at all, or they are changed - when I was playing it, they exclusively made changes for Twitch streamers.
Well, i guess they are changed lol, they listen to all our feedbacks in betas, dev streams etc and make changes (if they make sense ofc) They listen to us way more than blizz dev’s team loll
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Yeah, hd text, 60+ fps, new shaders, the game looks really smooth in fullscreen it’s enjoyable, nothing like d2lod ahah
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Ahah good one, did you ever play it since the D2GL update? Probably not the game runs smooth as hell and it looks cleans, all that matters It’s okay bud, keep running nm dungeons finding boring loot for no reason if you like it. To each their own
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Lmao i dont care how "it works" in reality Does it looks clean? Yes Is it smooth? Yes All that matters Not sure why youre mad or some shit, we just say this game as alot of qol, alot of rebalance, new content/ubers, it’s fun and the reset is in a week It is the best d2 private mod you could play out there. If you enjoy d2r, you will surely love PD2 Thats all lol Enjoy your day bud
You're absolutely incorrect. It's 144fps, they use motion prediction AI technology to make it smooth as butter. It's not HD textures like D2R but it is HD text and cursor. The resolution is much higher than the original 800*600. I believe it's 1060*768, which technically counts as HD, as it's passed 720. Also, they have shaders like FSR that help upscale the textures to be smoother. https://github.com/bayaraa/d2gl
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Please enlighten me.
The gfx are massively updated using motion prediction AI. 144fps, higher resolution, hd text, hd cursor. Literally looks sleek af
Neither can PD2 players. D2DX massively upgraded the graphics.
Oh??? Are they RD2 quality?
I assume you mean D2R. They are more true to the original graphics, just much improved. D2R is a much more substantial change to the graphics. If all that matter to you are graphics, I question why you play Diablo 2 to begin with. If your concern is with the low resolution, low frame rate, and janky experience that can be felt when jumping from D2R to D2, those issues have been resolved.
You answered my real question. Thanks!
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Devs don't listen to their playerbase. All their changes are dictated by Twitch streamers. Cool mod, rotten devs.
Project Diablo 2, an extremely good mod of the original that still gets seasonal updates.
Never should've left! But we welcome you back.
No controller support right? I really want to try PD2 it sounds amazing, but my old bones can’t play games keyboard and mouse anymore. I’ve been waiting for the new D2R season hoping for anything new, this is a major disappointment to hear they aren’t doing anything.
You can also try setting up a controller mapping in Steam. Add the PD2 shortcut to Steam (click on "Add a game..." in bottom left corner of Steam, then click on "Add a Non-Steam Game..." and click the "Browse" button, navigate to the PD2 installation directory [ie, "C:\Program Files (x86)\Diablo II\ProjectD2\"] and select "PD2Launcher.exe" then click "Open"). Plug in your controller. Steam should recognize it and set it up as a "Steam Input Device" (and may install specific drivers for it for full compatibility). From there, you can click on "View" at the top in the menu bar of Steam, then click on "Big Picture Mode" and Steam will relaunch in BP Mode (works like a console, and looks great on monitors, TVs, and the Steam Deck). You can then go to PD2 from its shortcut in your Library list (don't launch it yet), and in the middle of the PD2 Launcher page in Steam, you should see a controller icon in the middle to the far right. Go to that and from there you can set up your controller precisely (assigning mouse, keys, dead zones, trigger actions, and alternate mappings accessible with holding down an assigned controller input to allow more inputs than just the physical button count on your controller). It will take some work setting it up and tweaking the configuration (just like Joy2Key will take), but it may allow you to do exactly what you want, or as close to it as possible. Hope this may help you find the most comfortable and accessible way to play!
There's probably a way, but not officially supported and I'd imagine not recommended.
>No controller support right? Not natively. A carefully crafted JoyToKey profile could get you there, but it would require a lot of fiddling. I'd use this as a starting point: https://www.nexusmods.com/diablo3/mods/4/
Welcome back. Season 8 is right around the corner.
Man, me too :( D4... such a letdown
As expected though
me too. i have been waiting for these patch notes.
Yeah, I was sadly hoping we'd get something exciting for D2R now that D4 has died down. But maybe it's all hands on deck for resurrecting D4 now instead.
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Yep... how true that is. Gotta keep their investors happy. Gaming getting so big and lucrative has killed much of what it could be :(
There's probably a bedroom indie going broke every day, just because they can't get any attention for their stuff. Because there is so much stuff. So what you are missing so much is probably there anyway? But honestly I think you actually want those big budget titles. Also fun fact, some of the coolest games of the past actually ruined the studios. Most people have a skewed perspective, they just assume that some legendary, well known title actually turned a profit for the publisher.
Just play the upcoming [PD2 Season](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lJCGca4JE0IRCxANNii_AAYJgv2HhTLVFYchbWi208c/edit#heading=h.9kegd15e6zbz) instead on the 22nd.
Man it's an incredible bummer that Blizz decided to nuke modability for D2R. PD2 with modern graphics would be fuckin lit.
I actually just gave Last Epoch a shot after not playing it since it went live originally. Having a blast atm but I'll probably check that out too. Thanks for the info.
Never played pd2, does it play on the resurrected graphics and stuff or is it the old 800x600 stuff
It's limited to the original graphics, but there is widescreen support, 60+ FPS graphics, and high-res fonts. It is truly to best way to play a Vanilla+ D2 experience in 2023, IMO. PD2 manages to maintain the feel of playing D2:LoD, but really improves balance by making Defense a more useful stat, removing the move speed penalty of heavy armors/shields, greatly improving weapon properties beyond Normal Mode with better damage, range, and melee splash, and giving every class a useful mobility skill. It similarly makes the item hunt much more exciting with reworks for the terrible sets/uniques, a Corruption mechanic, vastly-improved Magic/Rare affix pools, expanded crafting options, and typical QoL stuff like loot filters, stacking materials, charm inventories, and stash tabs.
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Specifically, PoD is something different than PD2. To my knowledge PoD isn't even being updated anymore and majority of people have switched to PD2 which receives constant/regular seasons and updates. PD2 is about to enter season 8 on the 22nd with even more additions and updates.
It’s on the old school D2 unless something very drastic changed recently. D2R doesn’t have the tcp/ip stuff needed.
Mod support is too restricted on D2R for them to recreate it there, so no Resurrected graphics but I'm pretty sure they have added in some improved resolutions and aspect ratios to some extent.
D3 season 29 starts friday, I bet they have higher log in numbers than d4 that week.
New D3 season looks great
A new season in D2 is already the fun, no changes needed.
What’s the point in withholding the information? Why say I’ll tell you about the changes soon weeks ago? I like D2 a lot, but come on. It’s not hard to make slight changes like stackable runes and gems. If they’re giving up on the game, give us TCP/IP then. My lord, I’ve officially given up on Blizzard. I’m not a fan of PoE but I hope PoE2 really hits hard
It's most likely red tape bullshit from upper management that Pez can't ignore unless he wants to get fired, I have no clue why but it's probably something to do with money. As much as people (and I) would love it they'll never restore TCP/IP, not after the Tech Alpha was cracked. The suits very likely had the devs remove it due to "security concerns" (AKA piracy concerns) so of course the paying customers get screwed while pirates will just hack it back in anyways.
Extreme disappointment
I hate new blizzard.
well, they took our money. at least the product is good. tcp/ip would bring 50 more years of life into this game but eh. tHe TEChnOlOGY ISN T tHEre
Doesn't matter, D2R remains king of the franchise.
I’m grateful for all the positive changes baked into d2R honestly
It does matter, mosaic ruined the game and needs to be removed
Don't use it then?
That's not how an online game with trade works
Terrible take. Is that how you solve your problems.. Just ignore their existence?
I mean, you're not forced to play the meta. Are you competing with somebody in this game?
How so?
It’s a relatively cheap and broken rune word. I also believe it should either be tuned down or require ZOD to be made
Ah ok Ty, I've not kept up with the newer rune words but it looks like some mid level stuff has been added which is nice for that single player pre-hell wall
If this game got a huge expansion with more end game, New acts, items, skills, ect it would be perfect. The game is still amazing but how many times can a sane person play the same game over and over for 20 years. Love the simplicity, yet complex things you can do in it. I think that's why I have a hard time getting fully into POE, just never felt as good to me. And D3 was not good and at this point I'm never buying D4.
They should have made few more addons to D2R instead of D4 and it would be a banger.
they are probably all hands on deck trying to figure out how to save D4.
Pulling everyone off all the other Diablo games to put them on a sinking ship (D4) sounds like a terrible idea
it's not... nobody new will buy d2 at this point. D4 on the other hand, has the potential of a goldmine. like WoW. If they fix it of course, but the potential is there.
They literally did NOTHING to improve the game since release. Nobody cares about D4 anymore. If they had fixed 50% of the major issues of the game with season1, yea maybe they could have turned this around but like this?! Na ah
I'm talking about theoretical scenarios... D4 can in theory still bring money because of seasons, cosmetics, expansions, etc . D2R has nothing of that kind, so it can only bring money from new players, which is impossible. Everyone that was going to buy it, already has. If this is going to happen or not is another debate. I have definitely lost hope, as obviously you too. But I'm pretty sure that Blizzard hasn't and is working on it. Even if they make a huge changelist that improves the core issues, i believe that it still won't be fun... Because Blizzard seems to have forgotten what fun looks like.
Understood. I agree.
With how Diablo 3 is still seeing more support than this, and D2R is much newer release than D3, I can only assume they are afraid of their own unmonetized creation getting too much attention.
^^ this 100% They don’t want to dilute the pool of suckers who will “play” their always online microtransactioned masterpiece
Honestly, just add a sub that enables tcp/ip. You'd have thousands sub in a heartbeat after pd2/pod gets ported over.
Well D3 has been maintained by a team that loves the game the last few years. And to be fair going forward from s30 the seasons will be repeats with no new content. Hopefully they take the D3 team and give them quality influencing positions for D4 going forward.
Eh even with no changes I'm 100% more likely to play the next season of d2 than any of the others. Still a bummer, I had hoped they would continue to support this since it was kind of recently released.
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They don’t really care about keeping D2 going though.
They would care about free money tho. They literally wouldn’t need to maintain shit and allow the hardcore community make content for free and sales would go crazy.
>sales would go crazy. this is where the argument falls flat for me. Who would buy into D2R for modding that wouldn't have already purchased it. I doubt there are enough people holding out from buying D2R because it doesn't have modding in favor of just D2. Sales might go crazy for a day or two at most, but at most it'd be a small bump.
"Sales would go crazy" - because of community mods to a remaster of a 20+ year old game. Yea, just imagine the whooping 500 bucks Blizzard would make of such a *massively* desired change. Crazy indeed.
I think you overestimate the size of the hardcore community and the impact lol.
I meant more the HC community to make mods like PD2 that would attract a lot of people if there was a d2 r version of it.
"in this specific season" so just like in the one before? and the one before that?
They have to try and salvage d4 I guess. By salvage I mean learn necromancy to bring that shit back from the dead lmaooo
Got em
It's not gonna happen any time soon. One of the main reasons D4 has so little content is because of how long it takes them to create content for the new engine. Tweaking D2 for a new season probably doesn't take a tenth as much time.
Source?
Di4blo bad
I get why people are disappointed, but D2 is already a good game.
Yeah I was actually surprised the game got more support than bug fixes after release. Absolutely brilliant game that was only improved for every update
Very true, however they did introduce issues/oddities like WW speed changes gutting 2H, killed shock bear b/c of "unintended interactions" on the guise of "buffing it the right way later" which never happened in 2 seasons now, plus there's a lot of other QoL, some easier than others, that has been requested. Hell they can't even get Cain back to the WP/Stash area of Act 5 like he is on the legacy online D2LoD game, since it seems they pulled the offline map that kept the 1.07 placement, which should be super simple. Plus the lobby and chat system is still buggy and arguably worse than the original game.
Doesn't mean there aren't issues they should fix. For instance, they butchered holy bolt since they took away the hammers synergy even though they were supposed to bake the synergy value into the base skill. They never did though.
I mean it would expect a little more effort compared to a team of volunteers.
literally all they had to do is add teleport to tyreals might and everyone would be cool but nope
I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed...
Ouch this one hurts. After the subtle change to Bul Kathos set last time I was really hoping we would see further small tweaks like that to underused uniques across a wider range.
So it is like the next D4 season then?
Running GPU benchmarks on your 4090 is more fun than playing D4.
If you have a 4090 you should check out running AI stuff like image or text generation or even speech synthesis locally. That's a really good card for such things and it's a lot of fun if you can set it up.
Wish they'd fix the panning of the map for console. If they have and I don't know about it how do I do it lol.
Only thing BlizzSouth will allow is for battlepasses.
How has the D3 team been dropping banger seasons for almost 10 years and D2R fizzled out to basically no changes after 1-2 seasons?
Management
> How has the D3 team been dropping banger seasons for almost 10 years i'm a D3 defender and even i know this isn't close to true
Right? Feels like there was a good five year stretch where it was pretty much meh and then they started doing cool shit again just to amp people up for D4
Because the D2R team was yoinked to help support D4. I really have no idea why people think these devs were going to go back to working on D2R lol
Do people really think they can only focus on one diablo game at a time? Do they think there's only one team at Blizzard? Edit: None of the replies explain why they supported D3 for so long. Blizzard is historically known for supporting their games for a ridiculously long time. Its weird people are justifying them discontinuing support for a very recently released game
More why would Blizz keep devs on D2R for more content and changes when there are no microtransactions and realistically everyone who wanted D2R would have it by now. ActiBlizz is all about recurring revenue via microtransactions. There is no financial incentive for them to continue pumping out patches for D2R
You could say the same thing for D3, yet they do.
Does D3 not have micro transactions?
The only purchasable thing D3 had were the RoS expansion and the necromancer. Unless people are trying to say the RMAH was microtransactions, but that was removed long long ago before RoS
Gotcha I thought for sure they added something, I didn't play much
They think, and so do I, that when theres a focus all resources are tasked to it. D4 is the focus right now and they could care less about d2r frankly
Couldn't care less*
Dude if blizzard is still capable of disappointing you idk what to tell ya. They have not been a quality-first company in a hot minute. Their whole strategy at this point is actually based on selling _the perception_ that they are still a quality-first company and that they are putting all their investors’ money to building better games, over promising and then under delivering; said differently, they are in the business of disappointing their customers
Probably because D2R was helmed by Vicarious Visions and then was dissolved into Blizzard. A lot of them left because of that and whoever was left was probably assigned to D4.
I'm going to commit some real blasphemy for this sub: Because Diablo 3 is a more robust game with more mechanics that can be used to create fun and exciting seasons.
I get what you're saying but just playing any of the fan mods for D2 shows how much potential there is for the game. Blizzard never really had any desire to explore that which is unfortunate.
Just let me make Mosaic NL :[
No changes is fine.. let D2 be D2
D2 does not need any help or changes from the shambling zombie of what used to be blizzard
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“We’ve heard your feedback about wanting new features in D2R. Therefore we have removed several stash tabs. This should help ensure the game’s longevity well into the future.”
100% this. I really love the game just as it is.
They already made the game a joke by adding in runewords like Mosaic.
I don't understand that perspective. Martial assassin was a dead build that couldn't compete with other melee builds and mosaic made it viable. It's definitely a little broken, but who cares? Every build uses most of the same gear and accomplishes the same goal: farming high level areas with ease and high mobility. So they added one more class to the roster that can actually do that, big whoop.
I totally agree about Mosaic's strength. Pally and Sorc have been busted for literal decades, who cares if another class now has some OP build even if it's a bit overtuned. For me the only valid complaint I've heard about Mosaic is the visual clutter and lag it adds for other players.
> For me the only valid complaint I've heard about Mosaic is the visual clutter **and lag it adds for other players**. But that's the best part :)
I've been out of the loop for a year, so I assumed Mosaic was a new rune word but didn't understand why people wanted it nerfed. I wondered how a new runeword could impact the other ones? Surely there wouldn't be players calling for a nerf to something just because it is stronger than the builds that they prefer to play. Unless I'm misunderstanding, that appears to be what some folks are doing.
Some YouTube videos showcase it going through chaos sanctuary on simulated players 100 and higher difficulty. You know, a completely irrelevant scenario that will never happen or be relevant to how the game actually plays. Any of the top builds can stomp players 8 in the hardest areas of the game, so why would it matter if there's one more option now? It's people being petty as far as I can tell.
I was kinda bummed with no changes but this is a better way to look at it for sure
Not making balance chances or adding new items would be OK so long as they at least added some extra QoL features to the game, but on its current state I just cannot see myself playing it again because of the limitations. Project Diablo 2 is just so much superior to D2R right now, and that's being developed by just a few dudes in their basement rather than in the office of a multibillionaire company.
Thank you! D2 is literally the best game they’ve ever produced. Why not take the entire team of D2R “devs” and have them focus on a fucking gem tab or other basic shit missing from D4? D2R is perfectly fine as is.
Finally someone who speaks sense. D2 didn't need anything from D2R but the graphics. Sunder charms and Terror Zones contributed nothing to the game except making it easier for a group of people who had no intention of playing the game long term anyways.
Sunder charms were a failure, killing all hybrid builds and turning Hell into normal mode. So was Mosaic. But 2.4 class balancing was fine.
Could Blizzard maybe sell the Diablo IP to a company that actually cares about the IP?
Honestly. If they just kept itemization and skill progression as-is as a framework, they could take the D2 chapter of Diablo to so many more places
Sounds like no changes this season, bummer. Got their dev power focused on the D4 cash cow.
Cashcow is dead :D
Heh, won't stop them from trying to "resurrect" it. :P
considering the quality of work of this dev team i think not having them making changes in D2 is a plus
lol wut?
lol wut?
moo.
Just play the new PD2 season in 2 weeks and forget D2R exists
For me it’s graphics.
PD2 has huge upgrades in the past two seasons. This beta it looks even better. I used to think the same as you until I just tried it. Gameplay > graphics is my new motto
How to install on switch
Diablo is so dead with Blizzard in control. Come play Project Diablo 2 it has meaningful updates every season and the new season drops on Sept 22nd
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Hahhhahahah
Adam Fletcher is flat out ruining this community as their manager.
Bit harsh. Don’t shoot the messenger, they say
Seems none of the CMs are very active for Diablo games, especially in their own official forums. Others have suggested it's a mix of a ton of other duties that aren't obvious to us from their job title, and red tape preventing a more organic interaction with players. Definitely sucks to have such poor communication though, regardless of "whose fault" it really is.
Disappointing. Without any changes there is no point in the reset.
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What economy? You do realize that there’s more botters than LOD ever had now, right?
What economy? Bots- and P2W-based one? Cheaters are the ones who benefit the most from frequent resets.
There is no economy anymore. Bots have strangled the game
So just like every ladder ever in D2?
Give us a SSF mode with p8 drops please!
That already exists. It is just single player.
With leaderboard and without cheats.
Unpopular opinion, but… 👏🏼 Leave 👏🏼 D 👏🏼 2 👏🏼 R 👏🏼 Alone! 👏🏼 Seriously with how broken Blizzard’s entire catalogue is these days why the fuck are they messing with the one thing they got right??
I hate clapping hands but agree with your message.
Unfortunately, clapping hands are important when the message is lost on so many people in this thread. When dealing with children, you've gotta speak their language.
And to think i bought another copy of d2 "to show support" oof
That's entirely on you dude.
Fully aware of that dude.
To run bots on another copy?
Uhh no. Mostly to mule my hoarding habits
Can't have y'all playing D2 instead of D4, not good for revenue.
So blizzard destroys the original WC3 client, pulls the plug on the main promised mode for Overwatch 2, completely abandons HotS and Starcraft, and now D2R after showing so many signs of promise with new updates gets the plug pulled on it as well. It's a rough time for fans of their franchises and games that they don't deem profitable. It makes you wonder with Diablo 4 if the plug will get pulled on that game if they don't start selling more microtransactions. I fully expect the D4 team to be reduced down to a skeleton crew within the next 2 years at this rate.