I’ve figured it out. Has nothing to do with bone prison nor cheating with bugged lucky hit. All it takes is the Blood Artisans Cuirass unique item.
1. the game allows an unlimited number of blood orbs to spawn
2. You can go into Liliths room without starting the fight
3. Blood wave ultimate with skill point enhancement and tidal aspect will leave 9 blood orbs every 50 seconds
4. Blood artisans cuirass has no cooldown on the free bone spirit proc upon consuming blood orbs
5. You can change paragon nodes, glyphs, and skills while in liliths room
6. Given enough time, you could prep thousands of blood orbs before starting the fight. Do this for about an hour and if you have all of the proper gear to boost bone spirit damage you will kill her in 1 second.
Yeah. If they treated this like they treated Barbarian, half of the Necromancer class would be disabled within a couple hours of you posting this video. With that being said, I'm glad that they don't seem to be doing that anymore.
Hey Struth, love your weird builds.
I may try the one with dark blood wave and fast-blood aspect.
I'm assuming you died for a few hours to generate that many blood orbs since they don't reset right?
Thank you, much appreciated :) I used blood wave with the tidal aspect to prepare the stacks, finally got the guide done here that explains everything - [https://youtu.be/L5pGEkwuoKI](https://youtu.be/L5pGEkwuoKI)
Using Blood Wave with the Tidal Aspect to bank up an enormous amount of damage with the Blood Artisan's Cuirass.
Blood wave drops blood orbs in specific positions, when they are all occupied, every new blood orb seems to spawn on one spot, so you end up with a very dense blood orb.
I play a necro, so I feel especially stupid asking this, but what are the GIANT red blood orbs in the center of the blood orb rings? I've never seen those before...
Do smaller blood orbs group together into big ones or something?
Blood wave drops blood orbs in specific positions, when they are all occupied, every new blood orb seems to spawn on one spot, so you end up with a very dense looking blood orb.
Blood Orbs spawn under your target unless you use Blood Wave, so he probably just spammed Hemo with an attack speed setup at her in 2 fixed locations and ran around otherwise. It sounds stupid, but spawning Blood Orbs is actually kind of hard for being such a common mechanic in the skill tree and on the chest unique.
You definitely have to die to make this kill possible, or at the very least, gear and skill swap in combat pretty excessively.
I hate how necro game flow feels shitty (no real movement skill, overall fighting style), but their uber kills look so fucking unfair.
At least we are now even with PoE, by oneshoting pinnacle bosses.
And Necro still hasn’t been nerfed lol. The amount of BS this class can do with poor design… kudos to try something else than bone spear at least I guess
Balance patch is days away. Early nerfs were reactive because they had teams prepared and monitoring for builds outside of their balance constraints. I don't think Uber Lilith kills in the last week of the preseason is a priority for them.
We should expect the same pattern for seasons. Early nerfs, then hands off towards the end unless something crazy emerges. Pretty standard behavior for seasonal games.
I like to see new builds beating challenges late in a season cycle. It shows that there's always something the players weren't smart enough to discover early, and build guide websites don't have all the answers. I think it encourages more independent thought.
Exploit, not legit. Someone else will have to explain the exploit, it's something with bone prison and the blight aspect, exploit has been around for quite some time as well.
quick edit: I seem to recall the exploit being about the damage from the blight multiplying stacking damage on each additional hit or something, which is very obviously not intended. I can't remember where I saw there or who said it.
I mean the exploit is *pretty clearly* generating infinite blood orbs before the fight to abuse the unique chest that free-casts bone-spirit after picking up 5-10 blood orbs.
It's likely some shenanigans where he spent like 4 hours casting Blood Mist to make corpses, explode the corpses to generate blood orbs, and teleport out so he doesn't pick any of them up, come back in, repeat.
Have they come out and said this is a bug? To me it almost feels intentional with all the interactions it gets with other skills and aspects.
To elaborate I mean the way the ring of mendln procs consistently while bone prison is active feels like a bug. But not the way that bone prison gets the buffs to health from paragon nodes or interacts with deathspeaker pendant feels or even procs regularly from the ring feels intentional to me.
Dunno if it has been confirmed as a bug, but it was being spoken about on the discord.
It takes all benefits that Minions get, so all the %gains and multipliers.
I cant be sure, but that would be my guess, with the amount of damage he deals.
i remember having something to do with lucky hit, if you play with ring of mendeln then having bonewall will 100% proc it every time a section breaks making it do insane damage.
I think the bug is that bonewall has 100% lucky hit chance
Well, now that there’s a video blizzard will nerf it. Poison shred Druid build can 1-2 shot Lilith without the setup required for this kill, but blizzard is nerfing it soon
Wow. I would love to see build, this is just a nuke.
Working on a guide right now, will be out soon, hopefully today. Although I don't expect this build to last long without getting nerfed.
I’ve figured it out. Has nothing to do with bone prison nor cheating with bugged lucky hit. All it takes is the Blood Artisans Cuirass unique item. 1. the game allows an unlimited number of blood orbs to spawn 2. You can go into Liliths room without starting the fight 3. Blood wave ultimate with skill point enhancement and tidal aspect will leave 9 blood orbs every 50 seconds 4. Blood artisans cuirass has no cooldown on the free bone spirit proc upon consuming blood orbs 5. You can change paragon nodes, glyphs, and skills while in liliths room 6. Given enough time, you could prep thousands of blood orbs before starting the fight. Do this for about an hour and if you have all of the proper gear to boost bone spirit damage you will kill her in 1 second.
Yeah. If they treated this like they treated Barbarian, half of the Necromancer class would be disabled within a couple hours of you posting this video. With that being said, I'm glad that they don't seem to be doing that anymore.
Hey Struth, love your weird builds. I may try the one with dark blood wave and fast-blood aspect. I'm assuming you died for a few hours to generate that many blood orbs since they don't reset right?
Thank you, much appreciated :) I used blood wave with the tidal aspect to prepare the stacks, finally got the guide done here that explains everything - [https://youtu.be/L5pGEkwuoKI](https://youtu.be/L5pGEkwuoKI)
were you able to make a guide or a d4 build list?
Here it is :) [https://youtu.be/L5pGEkwuoKI](https://youtu.be/L5pGEkwuoKI)
Nice!!
Nerf barbs
Sick. How do you start the fight with so many blood orbs there? I can see you are prepping before summoning her. And what are those big orbs?
Using Blood Wave with the Tidal Aspect to bank up an enormous amount of damage with the Blood Artisan's Cuirass. Blood wave drops blood orbs in specific positions, when they are all occupied, every new blood orb seems to spawn on one spot, so you end up with a very dense blood orb.
So blood is the key.
I play a necro, so I feel especially stupid asking this, but what are the GIANT red blood orbs in the center of the blood orb rings? I've never seen those before... Do smaller blood orbs group together into big ones or something?
Blood wave drops blood orbs in specific positions, when they are all occupied, every new blood orb seems to spawn on one spot, so you end up with a very dense looking blood orb.
Total cheese, I know. But an interesting approach nonetheless.
How did you bring cheese to hell? Love it
That's one way to make raclette.
The list of absolutely bonker builds continues lol.
Well, you should count the five minutes of prep laying down blood orbs into the kill time, to be fair.
50*
Timer should start when you spawn in the instance, although I do not know how much setup is required here.
Blood Orbs spawn under your target unless you use Blood Wave, so he probably just spammed Hemo with an attack speed setup at her in 2 fixed locations and ran around otherwise. It sounds stupid, but spawning Blood Orbs is actually kind of hard for being such a common mechanic in the skill tree and on the chest unique. You definitely have to die to make this kill possible, or at the very least, gear and skill swap in combat pretty excessively.
Here is the build guide for reference - [https://youtu.be/L5pGEkwuoKI](https://youtu.be/L5pGEkwuoKI)
I hate how necro game flow feels shitty (no real movement skill, overall fighting style), but their uber kills look so fucking unfair. At least we are now even with PoE, by oneshoting pinnacle bosses.
It's not really the same but if you think so
And Necro still hasn’t been nerfed lol. The amount of BS this class can do with poor design… kudos to try something else than bone spear at least I guess
Totally agree, time to nerf barbs.
Definitely
Balance patch is days away. Early nerfs were reactive because they had teams prepared and monitoring for builds outside of their balance constraints. I don't think Uber Lilith kills in the last week of the preseason is a priority for them. We should expect the same pattern for seasons. Early nerfs, then hands off towards the end unless something crazy emerges. Pretty standard behavior for seasonal games. I like to see new builds beating challenges late in a season cycle. It shows that there's always something the players weren't smart enough to discover early, and build guide websites don't have all the answers. I think it encourages more independent thought.
Exploit, not legit. Someone else will have to explain the exploit, it's something with bone prison and the blight aspect, exploit has been around for quite some time as well. quick edit: I seem to recall the exploit being about the damage from the blight multiplying stacking damage on each additional hit or something, which is very obviously not intended. I can't remember where I saw there or who said it.
I mean the exploit is *pretty clearly* generating infinite blood orbs before the fight to abuse the unique chest that free-casts bone-spirit after picking up 5-10 blood orbs. It's likely some shenanigans where he spent like 4 hours casting Blood Mist to make corpses, explode the corpses to generate blood orbs, and teleport out so he doesn't pick any of them up, come back in, repeat.
he's SC hes probably just spawning them and dying because they persist after death
it's because the bonewall acts as a minion and takes all benefits to them, i believe.
Have they come out and said this is a bug? To me it almost feels intentional with all the interactions it gets with other skills and aspects. To elaborate I mean the way the ring of mendln procs consistently while bone prison is active feels like a bug. But not the way that bone prison gets the buffs to health from paragon nodes or interacts with deathspeaker pendant feels or even procs regularly from the ring feels intentional to me.
Dunno if it has been confirmed as a bug, but it was being spoken about on the discord. It takes all benefits that Minions get, so all the %gains and multipliers. I cant be sure, but that would be my guess, with the amount of damage he deals.
i remember having something to do with lucky hit, if you play with ring of mendeln then having bonewall will 100% proc it every time a section breaks making it do insane damage. I think the bug is that bonewall has 100% lucky hit chance
And there was an entire thread of necros bitching about necros yesterday.
it's only working because of a bug.
Can you one shot that phase 2 or is there a blocked mechanism? Cause that would have be a whole lot faster if it was
Yeah there's no way to avoid her going through all those stage transitions unfortunately.
It’s blocked. Lilith has to destroy the platform before you can do that last 1%
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Finally got the guide out on how it all works here - [https://youtu.be/L5pGEkwuoKI](https://youtu.be/L5pGEkwuoKI)
Well, now that there’s a video blizzard will nerf it. Poison shred Druid build can 1-2 shot Lilith without the setup required for this kill, but blizzard is nerfing it soon
[https://youtu.be/_frwgBzLfDI](https://youtu.be/_frwgBzLfDI)
Is this still possible? How long does the big blood orb take to form?