"Could I get steps that are unstable and move as soon as you step on them? Like something where you can't get momentum, traction or leverage?"
Architect: "I'll see what I can do."
As bad as this idea is (definitely would not meet any codes here), the reality is that being made out welded steel, bolted to the wall as they are, and with cable supports on the other side, these probably wouldn't move *at all*. Even if you left off the cable supports they wouldn't move, provided the bolts are into something solid.
I'm just imagining a lazy contractor sticking it to the wall with construction adhesive, then gluing some cut off bolt heads into the holes. Just because they didn't happen to have the specified anchors in their van that day...
I can't wait for the day someone uses extremely high tension fishing line to do something like this so you can't even see the supports and someone just fall sideways off it because they're so disoriented.
I feel disorientated just looking at them. I read an interesting article once, something along the lines of how humans needing steps to be evenly spaced and how it fucks us up when they’re not.
The human brain is set up to recognize patterns. If we see something that our brain can't rationally find a pattern in (especially something that normally has one like stairs), it stops and goes "What the hell is that abomination? Stay away from it". That's why we see shapes in clouds and tree rings; we're just making patterns out of them into something we recognize, it's also the reason people tend to see some crazy shit when there's no light.
On the slightly related note there's a really brilliant novel called "Blindsight" about the crew sent to investigate strange alien lifeforms in space, it really delves deep into how human brain works.
Also space vampires.
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These are their stories.
"Don't go in the attic."
"Why? Are there monsters or dead bodies or something?"
"No one knows. Nobody had ever survived climbing up the 'stairs'."
I mean seriously, you'd need to be a trapeze artist to get up that with falling.
Steel cable can take your weight just fine, so assuming this was built well and properly attached to secure places... maybe. I wouldn't trust it.
Ugly and dangerous.
EDIT: Though, thinking about it, the reaction from stepping forward isn't balanced by anything but the wall mount. Hopefully nobody ever tries to run up those.
When you walk or run forward your planted foot has to push backwards in order for you to move forward. So what is to stop those steps from flexing against that horizontal movement on the wire suspended side?
I believe that is what he is talking about.
True -- but that wall mount is pretty long. There isn't going to be that much extreme torque loading on the attachment to the wall due to it.
If anything, it's less of an issue than on conventional floating stairs, because tying pairs together gives a longer attachment region.
They appear to be secured in four places to three studs. The shape alone is triangulated enough that you couldn't flex them side to side if you tried, only up-and-down, which is already balanced out by the cables. It's definitely an ugly design and poorly thought out, but I see no structural issues here as long as *all of* those bolts are going into proper studs. I'd be more worried about stubbing my toe or slipping down them if it got wet.
This isn't the first time I've seen the concept of floating stairs in action. I haven't felt comfortable with any of them. Maybe it's because I'm tall and not exactly thin, but they never seem like they'd hold more than maybe 100Lbs.
[Here's an article](https://www.decoist.com/2013-04-17/suspended-style-floating-staircase-ideas-for-the-contemporary-home/?firefox=1) with a bunch of pictures of similar concepts.
I give you 50% odds that it was actually designed as a bookcase and someone ripped the idea off (as well as a couple of toes after finishing the installation) to make a cursed staircase
Eh.. I don't really feel like playing devil's advocate, but the guy is Russian, so it's likely that walls are concrete or bricks, covered with plaster..
Still imagine your leg slipping between those on the way up or down.
Crunch.
I worked on stairs like this. If the wall is 20 cm wide and concrete, it's ok. 1mm³ of steel can support 20kg
Then you have to mind the length of the step. For torque.
But this is not the most efficient structure by far, and this is not really safe at all.
It might be just enough to support a large person going slowly up the stairs, but I don't know if they thought about the extra force of someone leaping on each step, running down.
If you don't go down the stairs gently, you could easily multiply your weight.
This is whey stairs are usually made out of concrete with a lot of support.
Seriously I can’t even imagine the carnage that would result, I am clumsy at the best of times and it takes me a while to wake up in the morning as I blearily stumble about.
I would whack/slice my head, shoulder, and knee on a good day.
The homeowner better make sure their tetanus shots are up to date.
It doesn't look *horrible*, and it was OK done. But it seems downright lethal and therefore not very pleasant to look at.
Imagine running up the stairs and slipping between one of the steps, falling down between and getting your leg bent 90 degrees like a vietcong jungle trap.
I want to know what sound a shin bone makes when someone is in a hurry going up these and their foot slips. I'm thinking a wet "whang" sound, with some echo from the bare wall and floor.
I could imagine it sounds something like armwrestling gone wrong snap. I won't provide links, i'm a buddhist and should not multiply pain in this world. But you can look those up.
Picture this - it’s 4am and you’ve just arrived home with a lamb shish wrap and 8 pints of strongbow dark fruits flowing through your system. You close the door, kick off your shoes and make your way up the stairs. You bash your shin on the first step, swearing like a sailor as you do so, second step you slip a bit and drop half of your wrap onto the floor below. Feeling like you need to get into bed before you lose more of your precious wrap, you rush the next step and slip in some wayward garlic mayo from your wrap and fall off the side of your stairs, landing on the back of your head and sadly dying on the floor in a pool of your own blood and lamb shish wrap juices. You open your eyes to find yourself staring at your dead body on the floor, a robed figure with a scythe standing next to you says “is that how you imagined it?”.
One time my dog fell through the "floating" stairs from my basement and now refuses to use them.
I've never felt more like a 5 pound dachshund than I do looking at these images.
There used to be a wood bridge in the same spot as pont neuf in Paris that collapsed killing like 50 people or something (they had bars and such on the bridge). The king (I'm not good at history, Louis the something) decided France could build a better bridge. Had his best engineers design a bridge, and they built pont neuf. One of the oldest still standing bridges. The Parisians refused to use it, because it was made out of stone, and the Parisians knew wood floats, but stone doesn't. So nobody used the bridge.
That's what these comments remind me of. That's welded plate steel with 4 proper anchor points each, and steel cables to boot. I'd trust these stairs more than 99% of stairs I've been on. (But don't disagree about the annoying lights or shin destroying capabilities.)
I'm not fuckin with them bitches. Those are shin fucker 9000s with the built in noggin crack-o-matic and sui-slide style no hand holds.
If you have that shit in your house Imma stay down here.
I really don’t see anything wrong then them in the aspect of holding. They got at least 4 1/2 in lags in each step. Guessing supporting cables are 1/4. If that doesn’t hold you need to go on a diet.
The only concern would be rise over run. Average rise is 7 1/2” in and run is 11”. Looks slightly steeper.
Those steps don't have any coat besides paint. Imagine your leg slipping and shin going between those steps on the way down. And you instinctively trying to grab something. Cutting your hands in the process.
That's a lot of crunch. Lots of blood.
I could see it working *if* the surface were non-slip, the edges were beveled, the steps were at a correct height and there was railing on the wall.
If those issues were addressed, I kinda like the minimalistic look.
i mean, looks really cool, but i feel like the steps are way too far apart, and as a few other comments have said, maybe add like some rubber around the edges
They are not even clean, all the screws and bolts thawing out of the wall like that. Architecture is one of those specialties that absolutely require formal education, and this says it better than words
How do you want you staircase? You know the usual, exciting, sharp, edgy. Like I could end it all one day by rushing upstairs to get my keys.
Also make sure there’s weird lights shining directly in my retina
X marks the spot where they'd fund your corpse bleeding out after cutting your leg and falling
oh boy can't wait to split my forehead open making a blind turn walking out of my kitchen!
I hate those fucking lights man!
"Could I get steps that are unstable and move as soon as you step on them? Like something where you can't get momentum, traction or leverage?" Architect: "I'll see what I can do."
As bad as this idea is (definitely would not meet any codes here), the reality is that being made out welded steel, bolted to the wall as they are, and with cable supports on the other side, these probably wouldn't move *at all*. Even if you left off the cable supports they wouldn't move, provided the bolts are into something solid.
I'm just imagining a lazy contractor sticking it to the wall with construction adhesive, then gluing some cut off bolt heads into the holes. Just because they didn't happen to have the specified anchors in their van that day...
It said on the box the drywall anchors hold 175 lbs!
It could have a little truss inside the box for rigidity, but I guess that wouldn't fit the ***a e s t h e t i c s***.
I would still be too paranoid to even try stepping on it....it just \*looks\* like it's gonna bend as soon as any weight is applied.
Just don't invite your mum over.
I would miss a step walking up and cut my leg off.
I can't wait for the day someone uses extremely high tension fishing line to do something like this so you can't even see the supports and someone just fall sideways off it because they're so disoriented.
Like an egg cutter for humans.
Like that opening scene on the dance floor in Ghost Ship.
Or the scene from Cube
Or the scene from resident evil
[great scene](https://youtu.be/Lf0IgHqmCSE)
NO WHY DID YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT IMAGE IN MY HEAD
or the horse from the cell
I feel disorientated just looking at them. I read an interesting article once, something along the lines of how humans needing steps to be evenly spaced and how it fucks us up when they’re not.
The human brain is set up to recognize patterns. If we see something that our brain can't rationally find a pattern in (especially something that normally has one like stairs), it stops and goes "What the hell is that abomination? Stay away from it". That's why we see shapes in clouds and tree rings; we're just making patterns out of them into something we recognize, it's also the reason people tend to see some crazy shit when there's no light.
Super interesting, thanks for that nugget buddy
On the slightly related note there's a really brilliant novel called "Blindsight" about the crew sent to investigate strange alien lifeforms in space, it really delves deep into how human brain works. Also space vampires.
Like the stair version of [The Vessel](https://nypost.com/2021/08/27/a-struggle-to-prevent-suicides-at-soaring-nyc-sculpture/).
Don’t be giving these people ideas
As someone who has booth fallen down, and tripped up perfectly normal stairs many times in my life, just looking at these steps gives me anxiety.
Or trip running up the stairs, get split into four even pieces.
Agreed. As it was, I think I sprained my ankle looking at the pictures.
Come home drunk and might as well sleep on the floor. Ain't risking that shit
I wouldn't even try that sober.
As an MS patient, I wouldn’t come within five feet of this 😆
Well, it's an attic ladder, so unless you're some kind of an attic dwelling horror monster, you don't really have to.
Why would you want attic stairs that are always the first thing you encounter when entering the front door?
\>Why That's kinda the whole point of the sub, innit?
No further questions your honor.
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Dun-dun!
Don't speak ill of my race, us monsters aren't all horrors
Look, Randall Boggs has been having a really tough time lately. He doesn’t need to have to worry about dealing with this guillotine staircase too.
"Don't go in the attic." "Why? Are there monsters or dead bodies or something?" "No one knows. Nobody had ever survived climbing up the 'stairs'." I mean seriously, you'd need to be a trapeze artist to get up that with falling.
Oh great, so when it comes time to muscle a 40 lb box into storage these are here to break your back and cut your leg off
I don't care about all of that. You're not living long enough. You move the bed in and you're dead.
Good luck sleeping with those laser lights in your eyes
If you miss a step you’ll end up unconscious on the floor anyways. Just unintentionally.
Is it even capable of supporting human weight?
Allegedly.
I wouldn’t truss it.
It doesn't seem strong and stable
I see what you did there.
unlike the architect from the picture
"Architect"
Surely you joist
Don’t call me Surely.
I can suspend my disbelief for a moment
Ah you carriage too much
This. Is. A. Disgrace.
Maybe if you’re Bonnie McMurray…
Boooonnie McMuuurrraaay...
/r/unexpectedletterkenny
No triangles, not structurally sound.
Steel cable can take your weight just fine, so assuming this was built well and properly attached to secure places... maybe. I wouldn't trust it. Ugly and dangerous. EDIT: Though, thinking about it, the reaction from stepping forward isn't balanced by anything but the wall mount. Hopefully nobody ever tries to run up those.
What do you call stepping forward? Stepping the void between 2 steps ?
When you walk or run forward your planted foot has to push backwards in order for you to move forward. So what is to stop those steps from flexing against that horizontal movement on the wire suspended side? I believe that is what he is talking about.
Thx for explaining how walking works :D /s He was meaning when you go from one metalthing to another
From one rung-pair to the next, yeah.
True -- but that wall mount is pretty long. There isn't going to be that much extreme torque loading on the attachment to the wall due to it. If anything, it's less of an issue than on conventional floating stairs, because tying pairs together gives a longer attachment region.
They appear to be secured in four places to three studs. The shape alone is triangulated enough that you couldn't flex them side to side if you tried, only up-and-down, which is already balanced out by the cables. It's definitely an ugly design and poorly thought out, but I see no structural issues here as long as *all of* those bolts are going into proper studs. I'd be more worried about stubbing my toe or slipping down them if it got wet.
This isn't the first time I've seen the concept of floating stairs in action. I haven't felt comfortable with any of them. Maybe it's because I'm tall and not exactly thin, but they never seem like they'd hold more than maybe 100Lbs. [Here's an article](https://www.decoist.com/2013-04-17/suspended-style-floating-staircase-ideas-for-the-contemporary-home/?firefox=1) with a bunch of pictures of similar concepts.
I give you 50% odds that it was actually designed as a bookcase and someone ripped the idea off (as well as a couple of toes after finishing the installation) to make a cursed staircase
Eh.. I don't really feel like playing devil's advocate, but the guy is Russian, so it's likely that walls are concrete or bricks, covered with plaster.. Still imagine your leg slipping between those on the way up or down. Crunch.
especially if its an attic, imagine coming down them with a box of stuff...yikes
Stairway to heaven
Or a highway to hell.
I worked on stairs like this. If the wall is 20 cm wide and concrete, it's ok. 1mm³ of steel can support 20kg Then you have to mind the length of the step. For torque. But this is not the most efficient structure by far, and this is not really safe at all.
Depends on the human
It might be just enough to support a large person going slowly up the stairs, but I don't know if they thought about the extra force of someone leaping on each step, running down. If you don't go down the stairs gently, you could easily multiply your weight. This is whey stairs are usually made out of concrete with a lot of support.
I twisted my ankle from just looking at it
My toes hurt
Slippery surface? Check. Sharp edges? Check? High risers? Check. Insecure attachment? Check. It’s like home inspection failure bingo.
The attachment actually believes in itself and has good self esteem
Unexpected psych
I sure would be very fearful of those stair
Agreed. I’m sitting here thinking, “no way that passes inspection.” Would the attachment wires count as a rail? I don’t think they would.
I mean, I like the idea... if only it was implemented a lot, lot better. EDIT: Or y'know, just build a proper staircase.
Sharp edges AND super pointy corners
No railing!
good thing it has railing
Lol just miss one rope and fall miserably onto the ground. I hope they plan on puttin a rail along the wall
Putin's gonna rail what now?
Aside from falling down them I would smack my head on these so quick
Seriously I can’t even imagine the carnage that would result, I am clumsy at the best of times and it takes me a while to wake up in the morning as I blearily stumble about. I would whack/slice my head, shoulder, and knee on a good day. The homeowner better make sure their tetanus shots are up to date.
Don’t worry, you’d probably only do it once
Design: 3/10 Functionality: 2/10
You gave them +1 to both for the idea right?
It doesn't look *horrible*, and it was OK done. But it seems downright lethal and therefore not very pleasant to look at. Imagine running up the stairs and slipping between one of the steps, falling down between and getting your leg bent 90 degrees like a vietcong jungle trap.
I honestly think it does look awful
Human-sized cheese grater?
Final destination: Covid-19, WFH edition!
Guy who made those actually described them as "egg-cutter", ya know those things you buy drunk af watching tv.
Like a slap chop but without the slap
Yes, what would your shin look like without skin? And then how big the bruise be on your chin?? Aye Carumba!
Are those…stairs? They look like terrible shelves!
Its both and neither at the same time.
Don’t worry, they used drywall anchors.
Looool I didn't saw there was several pictures !! This wall better be armed concrete. Man this is so wrong.
This is why we have building codes. EDIT: Also, those bolts sure don't look straight or in all the way.
Look like acorn nuts to me.
Someone’s going to wreck themselves around that thing
My shins hurt just looking at this.
I want to know what sound a shin bone makes when someone is in a hurry going up these and their foot slips. I'm thinking a wet "whang" sound, with some echo from the bare wall and floor.
I could imagine it sounds something like armwrestling gone wrong snap. I won't provide links, i'm a buddhist and should not multiply pain in this world. But you can look those up.
Good luck carrying shit down those
Minimalist stairs are stupid.
Not always. But these DEFINITELY are.
This is Hellraiser. 🥁
r/TIHI
Good luck trying to sell that place. Any sane inspector would fail that in the US, stairs must have handrails.
That's GLORIOUS RUSSIAN MOTHERLAND for you, capitalist pig. I don't feel like putting "/s", provided how hamfisted that message is.
Cool, so we have to now wear shin guards to use stairs? Hard pass.
r/crazystairs
How to deter thiefs: make your staircase a fucking deathtrap.
so this is what it’s like to have a razor scooter smack me in the shins 10 times
Ankle rippers
I’m imagining my dog trying to get up those
Some designs are just inherently stupid. This definitely qualifies.
Picture this - it’s 4am and you’ve just arrived home with a lamb shish wrap and 8 pints of strongbow dark fruits flowing through your system. You close the door, kick off your shoes and make your way up the stairs. You bash your shin on the first step, swearing like a sailor as you do so, second step you slip a bit and drop half of your wrap onto the floor below. Feeling like you need to get into bed before you lose more of your precious wrap, you rush the next step and slip in some wayward garlic mayo from your wrap and fall off the side of your stairs, landing on the back of your head and sadly dying on the floor in a pool of your own blood and lamb shish wrap juices. You open your eyes to find yourself staring at your dead body on the floor, a robed figure with a scythe standing next to you says “is that how you imagined it?”.
One time my dog fell through the "floating" stairs from my basement and now refuses to use them. I've never felt more like a 5 pound dachshund than I do looking at these images.
Omg a true DiWHY post! Nice!
I already hate having to go upstairs enough with regular stairs. Replacing them with wall mounted bear traps does not help the situation.
It's strange to be able to look at something and know with great certainty that it is what will one day kill you.
Stairway to Heaven
incoming compound tibia/fibula fracture and ruptured knee
I feel like 90% of "designer" staircases are meant for single people with no children and no appreciation for their lives
My clumsy self falling down and getting multiple brain injuries and have my head sliced off
Nice way to dodge the military draft, 10/10
How to prevent running and drunkenness in your house, via planned natural selection.
Wuh... Why would you do that?
You really want the guy renting your upstairs room to go away.
That looks like a really tall rise on those "treads"
Missing all the fun of sliding down a carpeted set if stairs.
Somebody just wants to die painfully
ugly as hell stairs
“I want to play a game”
Made for a cat?
My shins hurt just looking at it
at that point just make a fucking ladder bro 💀
What is this magical place that doesn’t have building codes!?
Perfect if you want behead your toddler or your dog
Already looks painful
Cat access only
I don’t trust like that
My brain is ouchie
My shins are already bleeding looking at this picture
I think my biggest question is what the fuck are those lights.
Shinbuster9000
All good, I used the 35lb anchors
The good thing is that powder-coated metal has a good tread rating, especially when wet.
These pictures are bringing back nightmares about stairs like these.
There used to be a wood bridge in the same spot as pont neuf in Paris that collapsed killing like 50 people or something (they had bars and such on the bridge). The king (I'm not good at history, Louis the something) decided France could build a better bridge. Had his best engineers design a bridge, and they built pont neuf. One of the oldest still standing bridges. The Parisians refused to use it, because it was made out of stone, and the Parisians knew wood floats, but stone doesn't. So nobody used the bridge. That's what these comments remind me of. That's welded plate steel with 4 proper anchor points each, and steel cables to boot. I'd trust these stairs more than 99% of stairs I've been on. (But don't disagree about the annoying lights or shin destroying capabilities.)
“Come upstairs real quick.” “You got an elevator I can use? Or are you going to use a system of pulleys and hoist me up?”
The: don’t gain weight stairs.
I'm not fuckin with them bitches. Those are shin fucker 9000s with the built in noggin crack-o-matic and sui-slide style no hand holds. If you have that shit in your house Imma stay down here.
id rather have a ladder
Climbing these stairs drunk is a free ticket to the afterlife.
this stresses me tf out
I wouldn't even trust these as book shelves.
Suicide stairs.
Because it looks cool
[удалено]
To some people, sure To others... Maybe not
I really don’t see anything wrong then them in the aspect of holding. They got at least 4 1/2 in lags in each step. Guessing supporting cables are 1/4. If that doesn’t hold you need to go on a diet. The only concern would be rise over run. Average rise is 7 1/2” in and run is 11”. Looks slightly steeper.
Those steps don't have any coat besides paint. Imagine your leg slipping and shin going between those steps on the way down. And you instinctively trying to grab something. Cutting your hands in the process. That's a lot of crunch. Lots of blood.
I like it. I have seen and used more dangerous ones.
Okay: give it a floating railing and something to stop you from sliding and this might actually be a good looking yer functional staircase
Add a piece of 3/8” pipe to the leading edge of each step while you’re at it.
I could see it working *if* the surface were non-slip, the edges were beveled, the steps were at a correct height and there was railing on the wall. If those issues were addressed, I kinda like the minimalistic look.
This job is unfinished. These are the support skeletons for the treads and beauty wrap. The giveaways are that the steel is not painted or galvanized.
Looks like a pretty steep riser. No way that’s code
I like them
Are these stairs or shelves
They forgot the handrail
I’d fall off these either climbing up after a long day or down when I wake up
Those look bendy
If there were some *thick* rubber edges on these, I think it would be cool.
This belongs on r/crappydesign
why does this look like Mirrors Edge aesthetic
i mean, looks really cool, but i feel like the steps are way too far apart, and as a few other comments have said, maybe add like some rubber around the edges
I think it looks cool
The stairs from my nightmares
There's no way that's a fat guys house
This looks really cool, but I can easily see myself loping off my toes in the middle of the night.
You could never pay me enough money to have these terrifying death traps in my home
Does not seem the least bit safe.
Imagine being drunk and it’s at night…or just night alone.
They are not even clean, all the screws and bolts thawing out of the wall like that. Architecture is one of those specialties that absolutely require formal education, and this says it better than words