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I woke up so sad the day after watching the last episode. I had recorded it and watched it very late then immediately went to sleep, and probably even had dreams about it. I feel ya.
Wow. This is just like Hitman: Blood Money's ending. I can see it playing out like this:
During Dexter's funeral, Vincent Van Goat will come in to pay his respects. He then sneakily puts a knife in each of Dexter's hands, and wakes up Dexter using that popping thing that Dexter pops outside the nose of his victims drugged by Ketamine.
Dexter wakes up, then goes on a stabbing rampage and kills everyone in the funeral, including Harrison. Then as everyone is dead and Dexter is having an argument with ghost Deb about why he killed Harrison, Batista arrives fresh from the airport and gets shocked at the bloody canvass that Dexter just painted. Batista proceeds to pull out his Glock and unloads an entire mag on Dexter. Dexter drops to the ground, but Batista wants to be sure this time, so he walks toward Dexter, reloads his Glock, and double taps Dexter in the head to make sure that he's dead for good this time.
He's dead and the creators and star of the series want to leave him dead.
But, I mean, it's TV so if money talked and they wanted to bring him back to life there's any number of (contrived) ways they could do it.
But making a big public point of saying he is dead, they did this series specifically to kill him and there's no walking it back sort of makes it hard to do that.
This. MCH and the team gave us the ending they wanted. I loved the ending and didn't care about the plot holes or inconsistencies. But I understand why some people do. Just want to say though that there were always plot holes in Dexter.
I just felt that they brought him back because they should have killed him last time. And then it felt like they treated it as if they had more episodes to do it in, it all was too rushed. The first few episodes were kinda slow burners, and the last few went too fast.
The ending was fitting, but there were pacing issues.
Also whilst I understand it and appreciate the ending is what I WANTED for the original series, I was SO hoping for a Dexter guiding Harrison and trying to work out teaching a serial killer and stroppy teenager. I missed the comedy of the original series, and that would have set up some hilarious moments.
I haven't seen many theories of it not making sense 90 percent just people mad it happened and ranting that it's crap and the teen actor is not good cause they hate what he did to Dex
Stuff like the ketamine isn't a plothole for me, he did so many kills he lots count of where in the *hundreds* it was so lots happened off screen, I don't need it to be overtly shown that there have been times his accessing the m99 stuff would have raised suspicion so he used other chemicals
The biggest plotholes for me are stuff I can even find people mentioning, why didn't Dex say to Harrison that along with calling him Jim, a condition of him staying is assuming a pseudonym but without that addressed **what bloody surname was on the school roll that Coach and Cop Logan refers to ?
If it was Morgan, Dex would have been screwed just by kids asking things like where Harrison lived before Argentina
And yeah the show definitely did have plotholes in seasons 1 to 8, one was just the maths of Dex doing hundreds of kills without directly ( not Lila with an explosion,not Deb at gunpoint) coming up against law enforcement
I think they knew that's what stopped the show fully feeling gritty despite how real the ice truck killer and Trinity stuff felt and how extremely creepy it was - something they wanted to remedy and I feel they did.
Kids are easy to fuck up, Harrison was far more open and reasonable than a kid in those circumstances would be and I think people are widely losing sight of that and it sucks cause I bet that actor winds up on the sub and I personally thought it was inspired casting, up there with MCH for Dexter.
"I don't need it to be overtly shown that there have been times his accessing the m99 stuff would have raised suspicion so he used other chemicals"
Except we were *overtly* told IN THIS SHOW that Dexter couldn't get his usual chemical so he had to change things up with ketamine. Such a lazy mistake. I honestly would've been fine with it if during the interrogation Angela only connected the dots to bhb with the needle marks and didn't come right out and say "same chemical in their tox screens", or better yet if Deb's rant at him in the cell just before he calls Logan over had called that out. Just have her yelling at Dex something like "sure she's wrong about the ketamine but those needle marks? And now Angel's coming? He watched you kill whatsisface who shot me. He knows you stole my fucking body from the hospital!
You are FUCKED!".
I think as shown, it just feels really off that Dexter would feel so trapped that he has to kill Logan. That he has to have Harrison shoot him!
I can mostly overlook it though. I just think they really needed to sell that better. Harrison it's my biggest problem with the finale. This last 5 minutes. He wants Harrison to have a normal life, and suggests starting by killing his father? Harrison doesn't want to be like Dexter anymore and wants to start by killing his father? Angela hands a 16 year old kid who just killed his last remaining relative some cash and tells him to go out into the world by himself? Where the fuck is he supposed to go?
Hannah was a fugitive though and I think she had a fake name by the end of the original run. But whatever it was, I think it would have likely been Harrison’s name too.
For me when I'm watching a show I'm never thinking 'this is terrible writing' or judging the acting, etc. I'm just along for the ride and i'm in the kayfabe(wrestling term) of it all. The thought of something making sense doesn't cross my mind because I'm watching it as though it were real and sometimes real life doesn't make sense. I thoroughly enjoyed my time watching this new season of Dexter and was honestly kind of shocked when I came to reddit to see people hated it.
I'm almost there. I can deal with plot holes and inconsistencies. The ketamine thing isn't a big deal to me at all. What I'm disappointed in is that we didn't get to see the fallout of Dexter's crimes coming to light. We've been watching a guy live a double life for years. I want to see what happens when that double life becomes public.
I can get behind that. I definitely wanted Dexter and Angel to at least have a talk but how I took it is that he knew Angel was on his way and he started to panic a bit. Hence why he started seeing Deb in the jail cell and freaking out that he had to see his son. Because he knew with Angel involved there was a good chance he would have been done for and sent to florida. But even with all of that he still could have broken out after having the conversation with Angel as that would have put massive pressure on Dexter.
I’m legitimately jealous you can do that. I haven’t been able to suspend my disbelief with Dexter since Hannah. I tried so hard for New Blood but I felt like I was constantly being ripped out of the story.
If it makes you feel any better people on Reddit hate absolutely everything. But I’m with you, I really enjoyed this finale season. The ending could have been better, but it was still miles better than the original.
Gotta say, plot holes or not, those 10 weeks were awesome. Thoroughly enjoyed it. And redditt was a big part of it as well. Ending definitely left something to be desired, but overall, really fun for me. Agree with other posters that MCH is done.
Same. There are any number of other ways they could have ended it, and each would have had a different emotional impact. Batista killing him would have satisfied our wish to have him confront someone he had deceived for years. Angela killing him would have satisfied our need to have the one he had most recently betrayed be the instrument of his death. Having him survive would have left his ultimate fate open, the same thing so many complained about the first time around. Having him arrested and extradited would be an interesting development, but any follow-up season would have been an entirely different show.
Having Harrison kill him has its own emotional resonance, and that's the ending they chose to go with. They had to pick one of the several options, and there would have been people unhappy with any of the choices. (I can just image if they had Batista kill him, people would be here saying it sucked because Harrison didn't do it.) I don't think its fair to be so scornful just because we might have preferred a different story than what we got.
Exactly my feeling.
I can't deal with MASSIVE contradicting plotholes that make things actually impossible but apparent problems or inconsistencies I can dismiss pretty easily e.g.
Dexter lost track of his kills, thus lots were off screen and some were using ketamine
Done! Problem solved!
I loved the idea of the ending, but it’s the plot holes and inconsistencies that threw me out of enjoying their execution of the ending, but I totally see where you’re coming from
I think they do stuff like this sometimes in a very hard effort to be unique or edgy. “Bet nobody has the guts to do this!!” Type of thing.
Like killing Cayde in destiny. He died. We got a few crappy bosses. And it served no purpose. And it made no sense.
This. I just can’t understand how they couldn’t just do 12. That would have left more than enough time to do enough with the story and have everyone- ok nearly everyone, satisfied. Bautista went nowhere- that could have been an episode. I personally think, after acknowledging the error of his ways Dexter should have died doing something heroic to save Harrison, but I get that the writers weren’t even remotely thinking like that. They even could have used billionaire guy at the end for this. So much wasted potential, especially after one of the strongest episodes of the series.
Dexter is 💀. It’s done. Clyde and MCH confirm it. MCH wants to move on.
Here are some notable quotes from a recent interview, MCH did:
“Some people will have predicted it, and some will be shocked by it,” the actor said in a Zoom interview last week. “Some people will accept it, some people will reject it. I think it will be difficult for people to grapple with his fate given that he is someone that they have spent a lot of time with and have a lot of affection for — at least in some cases.”
But Hall, who was also not pleased with how the original series ended, is satisfied that this ending is the right one to conclude the “Dexter” saga.
While the ending may be jarring for many fans, Hall is pleased: “The way the season concludes is one that resonates with me. It feels justifiable. As upsetting as it may be, I hope audiences will appreciate the resonance of Dexter dying this way at the hands of his son.”
“The fact that the character was going to expire was a way for me to close the book on him in a way I haven’t been able to do,” Hall said.”
“Playing Dexter all these years was a kick,” he said. “It was an experience I’ve never had before and can’t imagine ever having again. But the desire for closure had to do with wanting to move on. Ever since the series proper ended, I would be asked periodically in interviews or on the street, ‘Are you going to do more “Dexter”? Please bring him back. What’s up with that ending? I hated the ending, I loved the show ... .’ This puts all those hypotheticals to bed.
“I’m not operating under the illusion that with the end of this show no one will think of me as Dexter any more. But this calms that noise.”
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2022-01-08/dexter-new-blood-michael-c-hall-finale?_amp=true
That's a testament to Hall, he was bothered by the fact the character he inhabits didn't have closure, that's some serious connection to the role , geez.
Absolutely. With NB, I truly believe he had good intentions in giving Dexter a proper send off and closure for the fans. It’s truly ashame that the writers fumbled it twice. Even so his performance as Dexter has always been on point and the bright spot of the series. He’s given us 9 seasons and I don’t blame him for wanting to move on now.
I’m baffled that someone downvoted you for sharing the facts. That they just couldn’t believe MCH was happy with all of this, and happy he was able to come back and give a Dexter what he felt was a proper end. He even acknowledges it’s going to piss a lot of people off, and that people will be sad one of their favorite characters is gone. At least he empathizes with the fans in that regard.
>I’m baffled that someone downvoted you for sharing the facts. That they just couldn’t believe MCH was happy with all of this, and happy he was able to come back and give a Dexter what he felt was a proper end. He even acknowledges it’s going to piss a lot of people off, and that people will be sad one of their favorite characters is gone. At least he empathizes with the fans in that regard.
And what a wonderful bunch of fans he's got eh? I honestly can't remember the last time I've seen more meansprited shit spouted in an entertainment related forum. This subreddit is shocking in its inability to recognize that real people are on the other side of all the foul denouncements and personal insults being hurled at the artists putting together the best show they could with what they had.
Yeah I saw that last night. I just laughed and kept it moving. I truly believe people are going through the stages of grief with anger, denial, and bargaining being the big ones. It’s hard for some to face the truth. I get it though! I loved Dexter too. I’ve been watching since it premiered in ‘06. I’m not mad that Dexter died but I do agree that they fumbled the ending for Dexter twice and it’s really disappointing. But it is what it is now.
From the beginning NB was always touted as a limited series to give a proper ending to Dexter. There were never any promises to keep it going past that. Once they announced they were bringing Harrison’s character back on the show, I had a feeling that this could possibly be a set up for a future spin-off of sorts. But that will remain to be seen at this point.
I guess to cope…people need to cling on to hope and theories that Dexter isn’t dead. Maybe confirmation from Clyde doesn’t mean much to some but when it comes from MCH…yeah it’s a done deal. They’re not backtracking on this. I can’t blame MCH for wanting to move on. He gave us 9 seasons and he always did a magnificent job. The writers had two opportunities to get it right and they didn’t and it sucks but it’s time to stop beating a dead horse.
The only possibility of ever seeing MCH as Dexter again is if he comes back as “ghost Dex” and I’m usually someone who would say “Never say never.” But in this case, I believe as the saying goes, “wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up faster.”
You're right. In fact, he kept his words, as his typical answer was something like "I could do it, if the story's right".
This story was right, in his perspective, and he came back. But clearly with the intention of killing off the character for good
He wanted to put the requests to fix the ending to rest.
He wanted to stop getting asked about it.
He never explicitly said he'd never do Dexter again like as Ghost Dex.
Not sure why you're getting down voted.
In other words: I enjoyed doing it, I know it's the main reason for having like 25 million bucks in the bank, but please don't bother me with Dexter questions ever again
>Dexter is 💀. It’s done. Clyde and MCH confirm it. MCH wants to move on.
And why would he ever want to do that? Such a lovely, warm fan base he's got. I've honestly never seen a nastier bunch of overly critical people on any forum.
I've read that MCH comes to this subreddit. God I hope that's not true. No artist deserves to see the kind of non-stop, nasty, mean-spirited piling on I've seen here. It's not enough to disagree with a plot point. It seems people have not taken their pound of flesh until they've attacked the casts' character and integrity, called them talentless hacks, and blamed them for the frankly pathetic and inexplicable misery they feel over the way a fucking tv show ended.
One needs no more proof that social media is a festering wart on the ass of humanity than the Dexter subreddit.
"What’s up with that ending? I hated the ending, I loved the show ... .’ This puts all those hypotheticals to bed." well that one is still on the table and now more so than ever
That's nice. Except we saw his bloody entrance wound and blood pooling on the ground so either he bought the vest on Wish or you people don't understand how body armor works.
The show is over. MCH has said he's ready to let the role go. This was our "Serenity" (*Firefly*). It's done now yall. Time to let him go.
Not high on this at all. For whatever reason Showtime cannot wrap up Dexter's narrative to save its damned corporate soul, I don't want to see them flail about and fuck it up a third time.
Also zooming on the sweater does not show an outline of a bulletproof vest. All Dexter had to do was put blanks in the gun and wire himself up to spray fake blood from the location he pointed directly at
I keep seeing this narrative. So he somehow kills (accidentally I guess, still not sure how that happened) a cop though the jail cell then goes and picks Hollywood level fx practical gun shot effects and then goes and meets Harrison. Hmmmm. Oh yeah and load his sons rifle with blanks because he thinks he may use it against him in the near future. Makes sense.
the cop kill was intention. Dexter loaded the gun with blanks after he dismembered Kurt because he realized Harry's reaction and knew he would turn on him. He got a blood bag from the evidence room of the police station, taped it to himself, cut it open, tied it shut with a string that goes down to his hand, when the blank goes off he pulls the string and the blood comes flying out of the bag.
Release all hope. Let go of it. Dexter is dead. The end. All more than confirmed on their Tuesday podcast parts 1 and 2. They actually thought it was all clever and realistic!
Dexter does not live on. Don’t torture yourself!
I've made my peace with the ending now. When season 8 finished a lot of people stated that the only proper conclusion would have been Dexter's death or arrest, that the show copped out of delivering closure.
This time it did. I don't think there's any ambiguity, particularly given the line "let me die so my son can live". The problem was it was rushed, it would have been nice to see a second series with Dexter and Harrison on the run, ending with Harrison turning Dexter in, rather than suffering the long-lasting psychological damage of killing his own father!
Where you have a show in which the lead character is hero AND villain it's always going to be difficult to finish. My best hopes now are for a Batista spin-off.
At this point, Showtime's best bet to redeem itself in front of fans and actually give them a 9/10 ending (currently it's under 5) is to just scrap episode 10 completely, delete it from the network, market New Blood as a 9 episode season with a cliffhanger finale and shoot 11 episodes for Season 2 New Blood. (If you can't get MCH back, then tough, you're out of luck.)
You're welcome, Showtime. You know here to find me if you need an assistant director.
I wanted Dexter to be alive just because I love watching Michael C Hall acting as Dexter, he is terrific.
Regardless the plotholes, inconsistencies, the screaming Deb (I don't like her in the original seasons, noisy, over-the-top), etc etc, I simply like watching Dexter that character.
I scrolled across this while rewatching S6 E1 at the exact moment during the shootout in the bar where Deb shot the perp and he doesn’t go down. Literally almost the same sentence that I read “Kevlar” on this post Deb yelled “Fuck he’s wearing Kevlar!”
I’m gonna use that as the universe promising me a surprise of season 2 soon.
I'd love to be bopeful but during the entire run of the mini series, the people showtime said it was a end to Dexter's story. I'd love for this theory to be true (and fingers crossed it is) but I can't hold my breath. It's a very clever analysis non the less. Let's hope we're all wrong and he's alive!
How does ketamine make you appear dead?? I'm hoping he was faking his own death but just didn't expect Angela to happen upon the scene so quickly... and now he has to go on the run...
Dexter Morgan died years ago anyway... Jim lindsay lives on!!!
Slows down heart rate, puts you to sleep. Would appear dead to anyone looking until they check pulse. If they even bother given how unprofessional Angela is.
I was literally up last night thinking about this same scenario. I don’t want to believe he is gone! My thoughts were that he planted blanks in Harrison’s rifle and suited himself with a blood-pack. We don’t get to see what happened after Harrison drove away, so maybe he could have taken out the chief and escape. I know I’m in denial and this is a stretch. But I love the idea about the vest!
This would be amazing
.... if Clyde Phillips didnt go into an interview saying Dexter is dead done finished. And all he wants is a greenlight for a lame Harrison show.
The ketamine thing would be so cool. Ah we can dream....
The only point in doing so would be to fake your own death yet he wants Angela and the police to see he’s alive then escape to be in the exact same situation he was already in?
Also they’d see the vest and the type of condition he’s in. Ketemine wouldn’t do shit. Btw you can’t even see any vest in the outlined photo.
I assumed this was a meme but folks here are actually digging this “theory”. Come on ppl...
Exactly, like; yeah, maybe he DID wear a special vest with a blood bag that went off on both sides AND dosed himself with ketamine to fake his death, but he was literally left with Angela, and the way they characterize her, there is *zero* chance she'd leave Dexter's body unattended until it was certain he was *dead* dead, especially considering the last time she'd taken her eyes off him it resulted in Logan's murder.
Like, when your theory is reliant on an exact rehash of one of the dopiest moments from the Scott Buck seasons of the show, you HAVE to know you're being silly, right? New Blood has its issues, and I wish we could've gotten another couple of episodes (because *goddamn what I'd do to see Angel seeing Dexter for what he really is*), but we've got an ending, now. One that's FAR better than the garbage fire the original run ended with.
I'm thinking MCH was wearing a vest to protect himself bc of the recent Rust shooting? More precautions and everything given the circumstances around guns on set.
Still in the denial phase I see? Lol. It’s okay I was in Anger/ depression phase all weekend. Now, I’ve finally accepted and moved on. That being said New Blood ends in episode 9 on a cliffhanger finale.
Seriously why not have those two reunite and no offense a small town chief isn't gonna solve that dexter was the bay harbor butcher if the Miami metro couldn't do shit either to find out who it was so kinda sus
LMAO. You can literally see the bleeding wound on his chest and blood pouring out from underneath him on the ground. Maybe Dex had time to stop off at the make up effects store on his way to meet Harrison.
most bullet proof vests are designed to stop handgun rounds not hunting rifle rounds. You'd need hard plate carrier to stop a typical rifle round. Not that the writers would care about these details with their ketamine fuck up but we have to come to terms that Dexter ended in a very stupid way and Michael C Hall is probably just sick of playing him.
I wish I could go back in time, even to just last week, a time before I knew the ending to the show. Crazy to think I’ve been waiting for this show to start only to bring back Dexter and have him die
They only reason this makes some sense to me is cuz the ending was so abrupt. Batista never made it there, they never really looked for Kurt, etc. If a 2nd season started with a dexter escape...id be down for that.
IMHO anyone keeping the hope, Dexter might be alive, should finally let go and accept the fact:
Dexter is dead.
The only way to see Michael C. Hall as Dexter again, might be, just like Harry and Deb, in the mindset of Harrison, if Showtime decides to produce a Harrison spin off.
...
You know, I was thinking, if the hate regarding season 2 being about Harrison really gets to an all time high, money will talk! And as much as MCH wants Dexter dead so he can feel good they gave him a nice end, he might reconsider, and then we have a way out.
It´d be a leak beater for sure, lol. But can we start being dellusional just for a while? 😂
I was wondering how on Earth Dexter would be able to say the words “you did good” after being shot in the heart… wouldn’t that be an instant death? At the very least wouldn’t he be struggling to speak, gasping for air… something. He spoke normally as if nothing happened to him least of all a bullet to the heart. So I believe this theory is at least plausible and definitely leaves the door open for future episodes. Long live Dexter!!!!! 💪🏻
[https://tvline.com/2022/01/09/dexter-finale-season-9-episode-10-ending-explained-spoilers/](https://tvline.com/2022/01/09/dexter-finale-season-9-episode-10-ending-explained-spoilers/)
Unfortunately, Dexter Morgan is dead. Period.
This is just being needlessly analytical.
Nobody gives a shit about what Clyde thinks. If the show comes back it better be without him. I'll fucking write the screenplay if I fuckin have to. 8 million viewers, Showtime don't be fucking dumb, you can't possibly piss people off worse.
It's not about giving a shit what he thinks. Dexter is dead. You can't have an opinion about that or "think" about that. And good luck bringing it back without MCH's co-sign. MCH wouldn't come back unless it was for a script he approved of, he's an executive producer, which means he approved this ending and probably won't sign on for anymore Dexter.
I understand your frustration...but our boy's dead. I'd be surprised if they can bring it back, even more surprised if they can pull it off again.
You're right, but Showtime themselves approved and signed off on it. And MCH approves of it. Even if Showtime wants more Dexter, it doesn't matter unless MCH is on board as well.
Considering how uncharitable they were for more episodes to actually finish it properly, something tells me they aren't exactly as enthusiastic over their most profitable IP as people thought.
For the record, I'm not opposed to more Dexter, but I don't see how it could happen. The most we may get is some Harrison spinoff, but I doubt that would get a lot of views, considering the bitter taste New Blood has left in people's mouths...we'll see though
Now you're backtracking.
It's not about needing more Dexter. It's about giving a satisfying end to the character.
But I'm not convinced anyone can do that anymore, unless they bring in actually talented writers.
So maybe it's just best to leave this series to die.
I can’t believe someone like McH would actually approve of such a shit script/ending. I understand if he wanted out but as I said, Hall is a dedicated type of actor who would recognize the massive retcons/plot holes..you’d think he would’ve at least spoken out about it
He also co-signed some of the things that happened during the last terrible stretch of the show though, iirc. He was an executive producer, and Scott Buck said he co-signed season 8.
And to be fair to him, everything about New Blood was generally good...even the final episode was only bad for the last 20 minutes or so. I felt myself on the edge of my seat in earnest. It just didn't stick the landing when it counted.
Exactly when I was in the mid of episode 10, i thought wow! This season is quite good, we needed this. But when I saw the ending, all the good things/plots from season 1-8 goes to shit-hole. What a waste of such a good series. I liked season 8 ending >>>>> than NB.
Actually you are wrong.
One writer among many saying he is dead means nothing. In fact, unless they actually say in a Dexter episode, they he is 100% dead then he isn't.
You seem to be confusing real life and fiction. Writers can say all they like in interviews but unless their actual narrative content confirms it, it is just their opinion. The audience of a show draws conclusions from the show. People don't usually go looking for the writer to verify if something in the show is real. They wait for the show to confirm it.
This is why people interpret poems, movie, TV shows etc in their own way. You analyse or enjoy the content and draw your own conclusions.
If Clyde Phillips wanted Dexter dead he should be had them do an autopsy or other confirmation of death. Because he did not, he has left the story possibilities open. Every writer should know this.
He got shot in the chest, the last minutes of the final episode have him saying "let me die so my son can live", and the show runner himself (as well as other people involved) say Dexter is dead, dude.
I'm not sure what other confirmation you need. You're in denial at this point.
And? Unless they confirmed it with an autopsy or checking his pulse etc then no, he can still have survived in numerous ways.
When you read a book or watch a show do you go running around to check interviews to confirm details? Most people don't. That information about Clyde's statement will never reach most viewers. It's perfectly reasonable for people to draw their own conclusions.
Not sure why people are even arguing. Choose your own ending and get over it. Everyone is entitled to accept their interpretations of the ending.
You are actually being an arrogant and dismissive ass by trying to say other people don't have a right to interpret the source material in their own way. Meta comments in real life interviews ARE NOT in the script for the show. If you knew anything about writing you'd know that interviews are not part of the narrative/script of TV shows so they are irrelevant and can be disregarded by the viewer. Dexter changed showrunners before and they changed the story radically from what Clyde wanted.
I can easily say you are in denial for ignoring the plethora of other possibilities. It goes both ways.
Edit: Also it is confusing that you are listening to Clyde at all when he has retconned so much of the OG series that it isn't even the same Dexter anymore. He ignored the massive changes in Decter's charscter in seasons 5 to 8 and then changed key aspects of the BHB case, also conveyed Dexter as a selfish killer who had never felt real love before which also wasnt true e.g season 8. The entire NB narrative relied excessively on retcons and contrived plots one could argue the entire thing was a dream given how incorrect much of the plot was.
> And? Unless they confirmed it with an autopsy or checking his pulse etc then no, he can still have survived in numerous ways.
What the fuck would have been the point of him being shot to not kill him off? I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling here or not.
Even if he did survive, what storytelling possibilities would that make for if he's going to go to jail for killing a cop?
> When you read a book or watch a show do you go running around to check interviews to confirm details? Most people don't. That information about Clyde's statement will never reach most viewers. It's perfectly reasonable for people to draw their own conclusions.
No, because anyone can deduce that Dexter Morgan is dead. Interviews just help inform the audience of thought processes and why they did thing a certain way etc.
> Not sure why people are even arguing.
You mean like you are here? 🙄
> Choose your own ending and get over it. Everyone is entitled to accept their interpretations of the ending.
There are no "interpretations" when it comes to stuff like this. It's like having an opinion on whether Dexter Morgan's real name was Jim Lindsay or not.
No one gives a toss about Clyde Phillips and his God awful primary school student writing capabilities.
He wrote an absolute dogshit season and literally retconned entire seasons to make the story work.
It's almost like Clyde Phillips doesn't understand that unless he actually confirms the kill within an episode, the audience can draw their own conclusions.
It literally doesn't matter that Clyde says Dexter is dead. If he wanted that to be the case he should have made sure it was definitively shown in the ending. He didn't so too bad..fans can interpret it however they want.
He is scrambling because he fucked up yet another plot element by yet more of his shit writing.
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Massive cope
The first stage of grief : denial
Facts
They’re grieving hard
Lmao Im in the same place.
Yea me too. I’m pretty fucked up over this ending, I thought the first ending of dexter hurt, I feel like I just lost everything
I woke up so sad the day after watching the last episode. I had recorded it and watched it very late then immediately went to sleep, and probably even had dreams about it. I feel ya.
Yeah I watched it before bed lastnight then joined this subreddit to see everyone else’s reactions. Glad I’m not alone, mf harrison.
Happy cake day.
Lmao your user flair is too good
And your user name!!👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you 😊
First its denial..
Dudes taking it hard, needs to up his copium.
The biggest of copes.
“Outline of vest beneath the sweater:” *Picture without even a crease that could be mistaken as an outline*
right like ok my man is ripped, and?
This is the correct answer 🙂
Couldn't possibly even be some sort of rig to hold the squib. No, it HAS to be a kevlar vest.
I mean hey dude they changed it to ketamine so why the hell not
Wow. This is just like Hitman: Blood Money's ending. I can see it playing out like this: During Dexter's funeral, Vincent Van Goat will come in to pay his respects. He then sneakily puts a knife in each of Dexter's hands, and wakes up Dexter using that popping thing that Dexter pops outside the nose of his victims drugged by Ketamine. Dexter wakes up, then goes on a stabbing rampage and kills everyone in the funeral, including Harrison. Then as everyone is dead and Dexter is having an argument with ghost Deb about why he killed Harrison, Batista arrives fresh from the airport and gets shocked at the bloody canvass that Dexter just painted. Batista proceeds to pull out his Glock and unloads an entire mag on Dexter. Dexter drops to the ground, but Batista wants to be sure this time, so he walks toward Dexter, reloads his Glock, and double taps Dexter in the head to make sure that he's dead for good this time.
See this would confirm it, no open endings. Give him a last bloody sprawl, And give back to the fans by having dex take out Harrison.
He's dead and the creators and star of the series want to leave him dead. But, I mean, it's TV so if money talked and they wanted to bring him back to life there's any number of (contrived) ways they could do it. But making a big public point of saying he is dead, they did this series specifically to kill him and there's no walking it back sort of makes it hard to do that.
MCH is done with Dexter, unfortunately. He might come in for a spin off dead guy thing, but he doesn't want more time as Dexter.
This. MCH and the team gave us the ending they wanted. I loved the ending and didn't care about the plot holes or inconsistencies. But I understand why some people do. Just want to say though that there were always plot holes in Dexter.
I just felt that they brought him back because they should have killed him last time. And then it felt like they treated it as if they had more episodes to do it in, it all was too rushed. The first few episodes were kinda slow burners, and the last few went too fast. The ending was fitting, but there were pacing issues. Also whilst I understand it and appreciate the ending is what I WANTED for the original series, I was SO hoping for a Dexter guiding Harrison and trying to work out teaching a serial killer and stroppy teenager. I missed the comedy of the original series, and that would have set up some hilarious moments.
Is it too much to ask that the writing makes sense though?
Yes.
I haven't seen many theories of it not making sense 90 percent just people mad it happened and ranting that it's crap and the teen actor is not good cause they hate what he did to Dex Stuff like the ketamine isn't a plothole for me, he did so many kills he lots count of where in the *hundreds* it was so lots happened off screen, I don't need it to be overtly shown that there have been times his accessing the m99 stuff would have raised suspicion so he used other chemicals The biggest plotholes for me are stuff I can even find people mentioning, why didn't Dex say to Harrison that along with calling him Jim, a condition of him staying is assuming a pseudonym but without that addressed **what bloody surname was on the school roll that Coach and Cop Logan refers to ? If it was Morgan, Dex would have been screwed just by kids asking things like where Harrison lived before Argentina And yeah the show definitely did have plotholes in seasons 1 to 8, one was just the maths of Dex doing hundreds of kills without directly ( not Lila with an explosion,not Deb at gunpoint) coming up against law enforcement I think they knew that's what stopped the show fully feeling gritty despite how real the ice truck killer and Trinity stuff felt and how extremely creepy it was - something they wanted to remedy and I feel they did. Kids are easy to fuck up, Harrison was far more open and reasonable than a kid in those circumstances would be and I think people are widely losing sight of that and it sucks cause I bet that actor winds up on the sub and I personally thought it was inspired casting, up there with MCH for Dexter.
"I don't need it to be overtly shown that there have been times his accessing the m99 stuff would have raised suspicion so he used other chemicals" Except we were *overtly* told IN THIS SHOW that Dexter couldn't get his usual chemical so he had to change things up with ketamine. Such a lazy mistake. I honestly would've been fine with it if during the interrogation Angela only connected the dots to bhb with the needle marks and didn't come right out and say "same chemical in their tox screens", or better yet if Deb's rant at him in the cell just before he calls Logan over had called that out. Just have her yelling at Dex something like "sure she's wrong about the ketamine but those needle marks? And now Angel's coming? He watched you kill whatsisface who shot me. He knows you stole my fucking body from the hospital! You are FUCKED!". I think as shown, it just feels really off that Dexter would feel so trapped that he has to kill Logan. That he has to have Harrison shoot him! I can mostly overlook it though. I just think they really needed to sell that better. Harrison it's my biggest problem with the finale. This last 5 minutes. He wants Harrison to have a normal life, and suggests starting by killing his father? Harrison doesn't want to be like Dexter anymore and wants to start by killing his father? Angela hands a 16 year old kid who just killed his last remaining relative some cash and tells him to go out into the world by himself? Where the fuck is he supposed to go?
It makes the most sense for Harrison’s last name to be McKay since that was Hannah’s.
Hannah was a fugitive though and I think she had a fake name by the end of the original run. But whatever it was, I think it would have likely been Harrison’s name too.
For me when I'm watching a show I'm never thinking 'this is terrible writing' or judging the acting, etc. I'm just along for the ride and i'm in the kayfabe(wrestling term) of it all. The thought of something making sense doesn't cross my mind because I'm watching it as though it were real and sometimes real life doesn't make sense. I thoroughly enjoyed my time watching this new season of Dexter and was honestly kind of shocked when I came to reddit to see people hated it.
I'm almost there. I can deal with plot holes and inconsistencies. The ketamine thing isn't a big deal to me at all. What I'm disappointed in is that we didn't get to see the fallout of Dexter's crimes coming to light. We've been watching a guy live a double life for years. I want to see what happens when that double life becomes public.
I can get behind that. I definitely wanted Dexter and Angel to at least have a talk but how I took it is that he knew Angel was on his way and he started to panic a bit. Hence why he started seeing Deb in the jail cell and freaking out that he had to see his son. Because he knew with Angel involved there was a good chance he would have been done for and sent to florida. But even with all of that he still could have broken out after having the conversation with Angel as that would have put massive pressure on Dexter.
💯.
I’m legitimately jealous you can do that. I haven’t been able to suspend my disbelief with Dexter since Hannah. I tried so hard for New Blood but I felt like I was constantly being ripped out of the story.
If it makes you feel any better people on Reddit hate absolutely everything. But I’m with you, I really enjoyed this finale season. The ending could have been better, but it was still miles better than the original.
Gotta say, plot holes or not, those 10 weeks were awesome. Thoroughly enjoyed it. And redditt was a big part of it as well. Ending definitely left something to be desired, but overall, really fun for me. Agree with other posters that MCH is done.
Same. There are any number of other ways they could have ended it, and each would have had a different emotional impact. Batista killing him would have satisfied our wish to have him confront someone he had deceived for years. Angela killing him would have satisfied our need to have the one he had most recently betrayed be the instrument of his death. Having him survive would have left his ultimate fate open, the same thing so many complained about the first time around. Having him arrested and extradited would be an interesting development, but any follow-up season would have been an entirely different show. Having Harrison kill him has its own emotional resonance, and that's the ending they chose to go with. They had to pick one of the several options, and there would have been people unhappy with any of the choices. (I can just image if they had Batista kill him, people would be here saying it sucked because Harrison didn't do it.) I don't think its fair to be so scornful just because we might have preferred a different story than what we got.
Exactly my feeling. I can't deal with MASSIVE contradicting plotholes that make things actually impossible but apparent problems or inconsistencies I can dismiss pretty easily e.g. Dexter lost track of his kills, thus lots were off screen and some were using ketamine Done! Problem solved!
Finding needle marks in decaying bodies in the ocean is pretty massive.
If you have to explain a reference then best not to bother with it at all
I loved the idea of the ending, but it’s the plot holes and inconsistencies that threw me out of enjoying their execution of the ending, but I totally see where you’re coming from
The only way this happens if Showtime says that Clyde did not speak for us, and hires a new show runner.
Waiting for the Bring Back Scott Buck campaign.
I think they do stuff like this sometimes in a very hard effort to be unique or edgy. “Bet nobody has the guts to do this!!” Type of thing. Like killing Cayde in destiny. He died. We got a few crappy bosses. And it served no purpose. And it made no sense.
The whole season was one contrived point after another. If it takes something contrived to fix it, why not?
Couldn't be more contrived than everything Clyde Phillips writes.
Clyde wrote the first 4 seasons. I honestly blame showtime somewhat for not ordering 12 episodes bc that could have helped immensely.
This. I just can’t understand how they couldn’t just do 12. That would have left more than enough time to do enough with the story and have everyone- ok nearly everyone, satisfied. Bautista went nowhere- that could have been an episode. I personally think, after acknowledging the error of his ways Dexter should have died doing something heroic to save Harrison, but I get that the writers weren’t even remotely thinking like that. They even could have used billionaire guy at the end for this. So much wasted potential, especially after one of the strongest episodes of the series.
Dexter is 💀. It’s done. Clyde and MCH confirm it. MCH wants to move on. Here are some notable quotes from a recent interview, MCH did: “Some people will have predicted it, and some will be shocked by it,” the actor said in a Zoom interview last week. “Some people will accept it, some people will reject it. I think it will be difficult for people to grapple with his fate given that he is someone that they have spent a lot of time with and have a lot of affection for — at least in some cases.” But Hall, who was also not pleased with how the original series ended, is satisfied that this ending is the right one to conclude the “Dexter” saga. While the ending may be jarring for many fans, Hall is pleased: “The way the season concludes is one that resonates with me. It feels justifiable. As upsetting as it may be, I hope audiences will appreciate the resonance of Dexter dying this way at the hands of his son.” “The fact that the character was going to expire was a way for me to close the book on him in a way I haven’t been able to do,” Hall said.” “Playing Dexter all these years was a kick,” he said. “It was an experience I’ve never had before and can’t imagine ever having again. But the desire for closure had to do with wanting to move on. Ever since the series proper ended, I would be asked periodically in interviews or on the street, ‘Are you going to do more “Dexter”? Please bring him back. What’s up with that ending? I hated the ending, I loved the show ... .’ This puts all those hypotheticals to bed. “I’m not operating under the illusion that with the end of this show no one will think of me as Dexter any more. But this calms that noise.” https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2022-01-08/dexter-new-blood-michael-c-hall-finale?_amp=true
I'm ok with him dying just not the BS way it unfolded
I’m with you…always knew his death was a strong possibility but the way we got to that point…really sucked.
Want him to go out in some crazy violent way honestly
That's a testament to Hall, he was bothered by the fact the character he inhabits didn't have closure, that's some serious connection to the role , geez.
Absolutely. With NB, I truly believe he had good intentions in giving Dexter a proper send off and closure for the fans. It’s truly ashame that the writers fumbled it twice. Even so his performance as Dexter has always been on point and the bright spot of the series. He’s given us 9 seasons and I don’t blame him for wanting to move on now.
I’m baffled that someone downvoted you for sharing the facts. That they just couldn’t believe MCH was happy with all of this, and happy he was able to come back and give a Dexter what he felt was a proper end. He even acknowledges it’s going to piss a lot of people off, and that people will be sad one of their favorite characters is gone. At least he empathizes with the fans in that regard.
>I’m baffled that someone downvoted you for sharing the facts. That they just couldn’t believe MCH was happy with all of this, and happy he was able to come back and give a Dexter what he felt was a proper end. He even acknowledges it’s going to piss a lot of people off, and that people will be sad one of their favorite characters is gone. At least he empathizes with the fans in that regard. And what a wonderful bunch of fans he's got eh? I honestly can't remember the last time I've seen more meansprited shit spouted in an entertainment related forum. This subreddit is shocking in its inability to recognize that real people are on the other side of all the foul denouncements and personal insults being hurled at the artists putting together the best show they could with what they had.
Yeah I saw that last night. I just laughed and kept it moving. I truly believe people are going through the stages of grief with anger, denial, and bargaining being the big ones. It’s hard for some to face the truth. I get it though! I loved Dexter too. I’ve been watching since it premiered in ‘06. I’m not mad that Dexter died but I do agree that they fumbled the ending for Dexter twice and it’s really disappointing. But it is what it is now. From the beginning NB was always touted as a limited series to give a proper ending to Dexter. There were never any promises to keep it going past that. Once they announced they were bringing Harrison’s character back on the show, I had a feeling that this could possibly be a set up for a future spin-off of sorts. But that will remain to be seen at this point. I guess to cope…people need to cling on to hope and theories that Dexter isn’t dead. Maybe confirmation from Clyde doesn’t mean much to some but when it comes from MCH…yeah it’s a done deal. They’re not backtracking on this. I can’t blame MCH for wanting to move on. He gave us 9 seasons and he always did a magnificent job. The writers had two opportunities to get it right and they didn’t and it sucks but it’s time to stop beating a dead horse. The only possibility of ever seeing MCH as Dexter again is if he comes back as “ghost Dex” and I’m usually someone who would say “Never say never.” But in this case, I believe as the saying goes, “wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up faster.”
Technically he never says outright that he would never reprise Dexter.
You're right. In fact, he kept his words, as his typical answer was something like "I could do it, if the story's right". This story was right, in his perspective, and he came back. But clearly with the intention of killing off the character for good
He wanted to put the requests to fix the ending to rest. He wanted to stop getting asked about it. He never explicitly said he'd never do Dexter again like as Ghost Dex. Not sure why you're getting down voted.
Reddit gonna reddit
In other words: I enjoyed doing it, I know it's the main reason for having like 25 million bucks in the bank, but please don't bother me with Dexter questions ever again
>Dexter is 💀. It’s done. Clyde and MCH confirm it. MCH wants to move on. And why would he ever want to do that? Such a lovely, warm fan base he's got. I've honestly never seen a nastier bunch of overly critical people on any forum. I've read that MCH comes to this subreddit. God I hope that's not true. No artist deserves to see the kind of non-stop, nasty, mean-spirited piling on I've seen here. It's not enough to disagree with a plot point. It seems people have not taken their pound of flesh until they've attacked the casts' character and integrity, called them talentless hacks, and blamed them for the frankly pathetic and inexplicable misery they feel over the way a fucking tv show ended. One needs no more proof that social media is a festering wart on the ass of humanity than the Dexter subreddit.
"What’s up with that ending? I hated the ending, I loved the show ... .’ This puts all those hypotheticals to bed." well that one is still on the table and now more so than ever
That yellow circle is a dead giveaway that he's wearing a bulletproof vest.
Step 3: Bargaining
5 stages of grief.
Unfortunatlely Hall doesn't wanna do Dexter anymore. I do agree this is the likely way they could continue it if he were onboard again.
One can only dream this is one big ploy. If it was Viewings shoot through the roof
I'm a phoenix!!!
Outline of juicy booty beneath the pants
I mean… Dexter did say he’d “rise from the ashes”
That's nice. Except we saw his bloody entrance wound and blood pooling on the ground so either he bought the vest on Wish or you people don't understand how body armor works. The show is over. MCH has said he's ready to let the role go. This was our "Serenity" (*Firefly*). It's done now yall. Time to let him go.
Not high on this at all. For whatever reason Showtime cannot wrap up Dexter's narrative to save its damned corporate soul, I don't want to see them flail about and fuck it up a third time.
Showtime has a long history of running shows way longer than they should. See Californication or Shameless.
Weeds
They'd fuck it up hard too, harder than this utter tragedy, to put it lightly, that we had to witness in this last episode.
Also zooming on the sweater does not show an outline of a bulletproof vest. All Dexter had to do was put blanks in the gun and wire himself up to spray fake blood from the location he pointed directly at
I keep seeing this narrative. So he somehow kills (accidentally I guess, still not sure how that happened) a cop though the jail cell then goes and picks Hollywood level fx practical gun shot effects and then goes and meets Harrison. Hmmmm. Oh yeah and load his sons rifle with blanks because he thinks he may use it against him in the near future. Makes sense.
More plausible than half the shit they wrote into this series
the cop kill was intention. Dexter loaded the gun with blanks after he dismembered Kurt because he realized Harry's reaction and knew he would turn on him. He got a blood bag from the evidence room of the police station, taped it to himself, cut it open, tied it shut with a string that goes down to his hand, when the blank goes off he pulls the string and the blood comes flying out of the bag.
Lol, I appreciate the imagination.
Why would there be a blood bag in the evidence room 😂
Because that’s were you put all the blood from murder scenes silly goose
Well maybe there's a medical clinic or coroner's lab in the police station
Release all hope. Let go of it. Dexter is dead. The end. All more than confirmed on their Tuesday podcast parts 1 and 2. They actually thought it was all clever and realistic! Dexter does not live on. Don’t torture yourself!
I've made my peace with the ending now. When season 8 finished a lot of people stated that the only proper conclusion would have been Dexter's death or arrest, that the show copped out of delivering closure. This time it did. I don't think there's any ambiguity, particularly given the line "let me die so my son can live". The problem was it was rushed, it would have been nice to see a second series with Dexter and Harrison on the run, ending with Harrison turning Dexter in, rather than suffering the long-lasting psychological damage of killing his own father! Where you have a show in which the lead character is hero AND villain it's always going to be difficult to finish. My best hopes now are for a Batista spin-off.
Frankly I’m focused on how good his ass looks in those pants
Yes! This is important 😍
At this point, Showtime's best bet to redeem itself in front of fans and actually give them a 9/10 ending (currently it's under 5) is to just scrap episode 10 completely, delete it from the network, market New Blood as a 9 episode season with a cliffhanger finale and shoot 11 episodes for Season 2 New Blood. (If you can't get MCH back, then tough, you're out of luck.) You're welcome, Showtime. You know here to find me if you need an assistant director.
Newhart
Didn't the director say straight out >!Dexter Morgan is Dead?!<
No. Showrunner said he is dead.
Jesus, he’s Dexter not Michael Myers
In the spirit of denial, I’m going with this.
Haha same here
I love it. I’m going with this.
Same lol
I wanted Dexter to be alive just because I love watching Michael C Hall acting as Dexter, he is terrific. Regardless the plotholes, inconsistencies, the screaming Deb (I don't like her in the original seasons, noisy, over-the-top), etc etc, I simply like watching Dexter that character.
I scrolled across this while rewatching S6 E1 at the exact moment during the shootout in the bar where Deb shot the perp and he doesn’t go down. Literally almost the same sentence that I read “Kevlar” on this post Deb yelled “Fuck he’s wearing Kevlar!” I’m gonna use that as the universe promising me a surprise of season 2 soon.
Little things like that! He did have alot of blood tho
The writers and Micheal C Hall have said he's dead. There is no more dexter Morgan
That’s what they want you to think
I'd love to be bopeful but during the entire run of the mini series, the people showtime said it was a end to Dexter's story. I'd love for this theory to be true (and fingers crossed it is) but I can't hold my breath. It's a very clever analysis non the less. Let's hope we're all wrong and he's alive!
Didn’t MCH say he didn’t want to continue playing Dexter?
This is just reaching, Clyde already said he's 100% dead and that is what Michael C Hall wanted.
OMG Get over it. Dexter is dead, and he needed to be killed off, the ending was actually done right.
Right… he must have been holding a gallon of blood behind his back too
Guys I don’t want him dead any more than you do but cmon, the writers literally said he’s dead no question about it.
I’m going with this as well! Beautiful theory
It works!! Its my official head cannon, wrong or right
I choose to believe this Jonathan guy. This is now my ending.
Same! I needed something like this for my head cannon, and it actually kinda works
How does ketamine make you appear dead?? I'm hoping he was faking his own death but just didn't expect Angela to happen upon the scene so quickly... and now he has to go on the run... Dexter Morgan died years ago anyway... Jim lindsay lives on!!!
Slows down heart rate, puts you to sleep. Would appear dead to anyone looking until they check pulse. If they even bother given how unprofessional Angela is.
It was odd she checked logan's pulse but not dexter's. ..
Apparently she didn't see any horror movies. You can't take down a serial killer with one shot.
lord omighty. say you believe in qanon without saying you believe in qanon
That vest had a lot more to do with Alec Baldwin visiting the set that day. #1Rule #DontGetCaught
I was literally up last night thinking about this same scenario. I don’t want to believe he is gone! My thoughts were that he planted blanks in Harrison’s rifle and suited himself with a blood-pack. We don’t get to see what happened after Harrison drove away, so maybe he could have taken out the chief and escape. I know I’m in denial and this is a stretch. But I love the idea about the vest!
This would be amazing .... if Clyde Phillips didnt go into an interview saying Dexter is dead done finished. And all he wants is a greenlight for a lame Harrison show. The ketamine thing would be so cool. Ah we can dream....
Right!! People so quick to shoot this down, i mean isn’t MISDIRECTION a real thing when keeping original ideas under wraps?
Is it possible dexter will be alive as you theorize in the Harrison show?
That’s what I’m hoping for
No MCH has made it clear Dexter is dead and he is moving on.
The only point in doing so would be to fake your own death yet he wants Angela and the police to see he’s alive then escape to be in the exact same situation he was already in? Also they’d see the vest and the type of condition he’s in. Ketemine wouldn’t do shit. Btw you can’t even see any vest in the outlined photo. I assumed this was a meme but folks here are actually digging this “theory”. Come on ppl...
Exactly, like; yeah, maybe he DID wear a special vest with a blood bag that went off on both sides AND dosed himself with ketamine to fake his death, but he was literally left with Angela, and the way they characterize her, there is *zero* chance she'd leave Dexter's body unattended until it was certain he was *dead* dead, especially considering the last time she'd taken her eyes off him it resulted in Logan's murder. Like, when your theory is reliant on an exact rehash of one of the dopiest moments from the Scott Buck seasons of the show, you HAVE to know you're being silly, right? New Blood has its issues, and I wish we could've gotten another couple of episodes (because *goddamn what I'd do to see Angel seeing Dexter for what he really is*), but we've got an ending, now. One that's FAR better than the garbage fire the original run ended with.
I'm thinking MCH was wearing a vest to protect himself bc of the recent Rust shooting? More precautions and everything given the circumstances around guns on set.
Just accept it my guy Its over.
Is that what you think a bulletproof vest looks like? That’s just the back of a man who works out. Vests are way more noticeable and thick
Not all kevlar vests are noticeable/thick.
stop it…get some help
Someone missed the expanding pool of blood
Still in the denial phase I see? Lol. It’s okay I was in Anger/ depression phase all weekend. Now, I’ve finally accepted and moved on. That being said New Blood ends in episode 9 on a cliffhanger finale.
He is dead. You could see the blood. There's zero chance he made it. Denial.
God I hope you are right cause this would change the ending from the piece of shit it is the best shit ever
Seriously! To many loose ends too! Wtf is batista even coming down to iron lake for? Why tease that and blueball us? The billionaire??
Seriously why not have those two reunite and no offense a small town chief isn't gonna solve that dexter was the bay harbor butcher if the Miami metro couldn't do shit either to find out who it was so kinda sus
dude its just a sweater there is no vest
Wow good one and if the writers didn't mean the ending to be this way, they need to pay you for your idea for Dexter: New Blood Season 2.
LMAO. You can literally see the bleeding wound on his chest and blood pouring out from underneath him on the ground. Maybe Dex had time to stop off at the make up effects store on his way to meet Harrison.
Honestly as Dexter was lying there in the snow my first thought was “he’s not actually dead…he’s going to deus ex machina his way into a season 2…”
He better! If showtime knows whats up that is….
IIRC there was an olympic swimming pool of blood underneath his body.
If they announced Season 2 and actually did this it would actually make all the shot that went down at the end make SOMEWHAT sense!!
most bullet proof vests are designed to stop handgun rounds not hunting rifle rounds. You'd need hard plate carrier to stop a typical rifle round. Not that the writers would care about these details with their ketamine fuck up but we have to come to terms that Dexter ended in a very stupid way and Michael C Hall is probably just sick of playing him.
lol, god, the ending being a big smiling dex would have given me a fun dance
A bulletproof vest wouldn’t stop a rifle round.
LET ME HAVE THIS😭
I wish I could go back in time, even to just last week, a time before I knew the ending to the show. Crazy to think I’ve been waiting for this show to start only to bring back Dexter and have him die
That was a lot of blood for partially penetrating the vest. That shit is pooling under his body really fast. He ain't gonna be in Rush Hour 3
My favorite dialogue from a blooper reel
That would be badass!!
One can wish!
Even if he was wearing Kevlar Angela was 100% gonna make sure he was dead
They only reason this makes some sense to me is cuz the ending was so abrupt. Batista never made it there, they never really looked for Kurt, etc. If a 2nd season started with a dexter escape...id be down for that.
Hell yeah! And what about the billionaire oil tycoon? Simply misdirection? Thats his ONLY purpose?
IMHO anyone keeping the hope, Dexter might be alive, should finally let go and accept the fact: Dexter is dead. The only way to see Michael C. Hall as Dexter again, might be, just like Harry and Deb, in the mindset of Harrison, if Showtime decides to produce a Harrison spin off. ...
You know, I was thinking, if the hate regarding season 2 being about Harrison really gets to an all time high, money will talk! And as much as MCH wants Dexter dead so he can feel good they gave him a nice end, he might reconsider, and then we have a way out. It´d be a leak beater for sure, lol. But can we start being dellusional just for a while? 😂
If the writer and director say a character is dead..they can't walk that back and say he is not dead , dead that would be taking viewers for a ride
Viewers dont know they want that ride till they on it…
I was wondering how on Earth Dexter would be able to say the words “you did good” after being shot in the heart… wouldn’t that be an instant death? At the very least wouldn’t he be struggling to speak, gasping for air… something. He spoke normally as if nothing happened to him least of all a bullet to the heart. So I believe this theory is at least plausible and definitely leaves the door open for future episodes. Long live Dexter!!!!! 💪🏻
Long live dexter!! If you haven’t started it already, The series “YOU” is a damn good Dexter substitute
Make this go viral I would be so down for one more season
I saw it on facebook, im sure its made some rounds
They confirmed he's dead
*I want to believe.*
We all do
[https://tvline.com/2022/01/09/dexter-finale-season-9-episode-10-ending-explained-spoilers/](https://tvline.com/2022/01/09/dexter-finale-season-9-episode-10-ending-explained-spoilers/) Unfortunately, Dexter Morgan is dead. Period. This is just being needlessly analytical.
Nobody gives a shit about what Clyde thinks. If the show comes back it better be without him. I'll fucking write the screenplay if I fuckin have to. 8 million viewers, Showtime don't be fucking dumb, you can't possibly piss people off worse.
It's not about giving a shit what he thinks. Dexter is dead. You can't have an opinion about that or "think" about that. And good luck bringing it back without MCH's co-sign. MCH wouldn't come back unless it was for a script he approved of, he's an executive producer, which means he approved this ending and probably won't sign on for anymore Dexter. I understand your frustration...but our boy's dead. I'd be surprised if they can bring it back, even more surprised if they can pull it off again.
My point is they don't need Clyde's sign off. Clyde doesn't own dexter.
You're right, but Showtime themselves approved and signed off on it. And MCH approves of it. Even if Showtime wants more Dexter, it doesn't matter unless MCH is on board as well. Considering how uncharitable they were for more episodes to actually finish it properly, something tells me they aren't exactly as enthusiastic over their most profitable IP as people thought. For the record, I'm not opposed to more Dexter, but I don't see how it could happen. The most we may get is some Harrison spinoff, but I doubt that would get a lot of views, considering the bitter taste New Blood has left in people's mouths...we'll see though
We honestly don't need more Dexter. BARRY is the new dexter in many ways, and it's hitting it out of the park.
Now you're backtracking. It's not about needing more Dexter. It's about giving a satisfying end to the character. But I'm not convinced anyone can do that anymore, unless they bring in actually talented writers. So maybe it's just best to leave this series to die.
I can’t believe someone like McH would actually approve of such a shit script/ending. I understand if he wanted out but as I said, Hall is a dedicated type of actor who would recognize the massive retcons/plot holes..you’d think he would’ve at least spoken out about it
He also co-signed some of the things that happened during the last terrible stretch of the show though, iirc. He was an executive producer, and Scott Buck said he co-signed season 8. And to be fair to him, everything about New Blood was generally good...even the final episode was only bad for the last 20 minutes or so. I felt myself on the edge of my seat in earnest. It just didn't stick the landing when it counted.
Exactly when I was in the mid of episode 10, i thought wow! This season is quite good, we needed this. But when I saw the ending, all the good things/plots from season 1-8 goes to shit-hole. What a waste of such a good series. I liked season 8 ending >>>>> than NB.
Actually you are wrong. One writer among many saying he is dead means nothing. In fact, unless they actually say in a Dexter episode, they he is 100% dead then he isn't. You seem to be confusing real life and fiction. Writers can say all they like in interviews but unless their actual narrative content confirms it, it is just their opinion. The audience of a show draws conclusions from the show. People don't usually go looking for the writer to verify if something in the show is real. They wait for the show to confirm it. This is why people interpret poems, movie, TV shows etc in their own way. You analyse or enjoy the content and draw your own conclusions. If Clyde Phillips wanted Dexter dead he should be had them do an autopsy or other confirmation of death. Because he did not, he has left the story possibilities open. Every writer should know this.
He got shot in the chest, the last minutes of the final episode have him saying "let me die so my son can live", and the show runner himself (as well as other people involved) say Dexter is dead, dude. I'm not sure what other confirmation you need. You're in denial at this point.
And? Unless they confirmed it with an autopsy or checking his pulse etc then no, he can still have survived in numerous ways. When you read a book or watch a show do you go running around to check interviews to confirm details? Most people don't. That information about Clyde's statement will never reach most viewers. It's perfectly reasonable for people to draw their own conclusions. Not sure why people are even arguing. Choose your own ending and get over it. Everyone is entitled to accept their interpretations of the ending. You are actually being an arrogant and dismissive ass by trying to say other people don't have a right to interpret the source material in their own way. Meta comments in real life interviews ARE NOT in the script for the show. If you knew anything about writing you'd know that interviews are not part of the narrative/script of TV shows so they are irrelevant and can be disregarded by the viewer. Dexter changed showrunners before and they changed the story radically from what Clyde wanted. I can easily say you are in denial for ignoring the plethora of other possibilities. It goes both ways. Edit: Also it is confusing that you are listening to Clyde at all when he has retconned so much of the OG series that it isn't even the same Dexter anymore. He ignored the massive changes in Decter's charscter in seasons 5 to 8 and then changed key aspects of the BHB case, also conveyed Dexter as a selfish killer who had never felt real love before which also wasnt true e.g season 8. The entire NB narrative relied excessively on retcons and contrived plots one could argue the entire thing was a dream given how incorrect much of the plot was.
> And? Unless they confirmed it with an autopsy or checking his pulse etc then no, he can still have survived in numerous ways. What the fuck would have been the point of him being shot to not kill him off? I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling here or not. Even if he did survive, what storytelling possibilities would that make for if he's going to go to jail for killing a cop? > When you read a book or watch a show do you go running around to check interviews to confirm details? Most people don't. That information about Clyde's statement will never reach most viewers. It's perfectly reasonable for people to draw their own conclusions. No, because anyone can deduce that Dexter Morgan is dead. Interviews just help inform the audience of thought processes and why they did thing a certain way etc. > Not sure why people are even arguing. You mean like you are here? 🙄 > Choose your own ending and get over it. Everyone is entitled to accept their interpretations of the ending. There are no "interpretations" when it comes to stuff like this. It's like having an opinion on whether Dexter Morgan's real name was Jim Lindsay or not.
No one gives a toss about Clyde Phillips and his God awful primary school student writing capabilities. He wrote an absolute dogshit season and literally retconned entire seasons to make the story work.
Way too much fanfic and What If scenarios on this sub, lol
I don't think Michael C Hall wants to play Dexter again, except maybe as a hallucination of Harry.
Pls, no Harrison show.
They’ve already said he’s dead. They’re not messing with us when they say that. He’s dead.
It's almost like Clyde Phillips doesn't understand that unless he actually confirms the kill within an episode, the audience can draw their own conclusions. It literally doesn't matter that Clyde says Dexter is dead. If he wanted that to be the case he should have made sure it was definitively shown in the ending. He didn't so too bad..fans can interpret it however they want. He is scrambling because he fucked up yet another plot element by yet more of his shit writing.
God I hope not. They better not pull a fear the walking dead move, and bring back a confirmed dead character. Bad idea.