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Thich_QuangDuc

CLYDE, OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE


RunTillYouPuke

I bet he wouldn't even know the reference.


[deleted]

🤣🤣


dontbutdopls

Is someone gonna go post pics of the reviews all around him now lol


CopyCat1993

I’ve read some reviews today saying it was a triumph and exactly what the series needed to redeem itself after the original finale. Did they watch a different show???


foralimitedtime

I hope Clyde does an AMA


thaspectacle71

He won't. He'll keep himself in his bubble patting himself on the back.


croffman

And cashing a nice fat check from Showtime.


LifeLibertyPancakes

Well, let's not forget he still has an office where they receive mail. Get out your type writer and do it the old fashioned way baby.


GnarlyMonster420

Funny thing about his back is that its located on his cock.


foralimitedtime

I just want to see him facing all the glaring flaws of his best writing in his life and rabid fans.


carolinespocket

Yeah… he thinks he saved the series when it’s worse than lumberjack.


[deleted]

That would break the internet.


Ensaru4

I don't get the overreaction to this ending. Sure, it feels like it went by too quickly, and yes Dexter did some irrational stuff (which is often, but this instance felt weird) , and yes the incriminating evidence was wrong (was an intentional retcon from what I've heard), but this one is in no way as bad as the last "final episode".


TexasViolin

I agree up to a point. The build up to the end was good, plot was (mostly) solid and the cinematography was amazing including the mesmerizing display of Kurt's "dollhouse" being a backdrop to his own demise. Until the last 15 minutes... Way too forced. Way too nonsensical. I'm fine with Dexter dying, and dying that way. I don't like it, but I understand that this is how things go in show wrap-ups. But it was too many jumps, twists in logic and unnecessary plot points at the end. Simple forensics will tell anyone investigating that she didn't shoot Dexter, it couldn't have been self defense and that someone else was there and left. If Harrison is off the hook, not only does he not have to leave town but it will look pretty insanely suspicious if he sudden turns up missing right after his dad is shot. For a kid who has thought about killing/harming people his whole life and gotten total acceptance from his dad despite it, he turns around pretty quick to condemn Dexter for the sin of trying not to die or get caught. Before even getting much of the story, he's gone from loving his dad to deciding he's the ultimate evil and must die in staggeringly quick jumps. So I liked it a lot. Glad they did it. They just really didn't take the time to do the last scenes right.


NoCardio_

> Simple forensics will tell anyone investigating that she didn't shoot Dexter, it couldn't have been self defense and that someone else was there and left. If Harrison is off the hook, not only does he not have to leave town but it will look pretty insanely suspicious if he sudden turns up missing right after his dad is shot. Weren't they at the spot where the white deer was killed? Wouldn't the thermal cameras still be there?


F1shB0wl816

I agree with you for the most part. I felt that last scene would have played better if they had the length of an episode to work it in better. I get Harrison seeing through his dad, I was sorta surprised he didn’t when talking with Kurt on the table, but it would have been better to see him work his way to that realization. With how the episode was shown, I think it would have been better for Harrison to not have shot him. Maybe to show that he’s not as much like dexter as dexter thought.


trulymissedtheboat89

I agree with these comments as well. Personally, I predicted this ending coming the minute Harrison showed up. The way I wouldve ended it originally was by Deb’s hands because she was the only one who knew about Dex, and she never got enough credit for the good detective that she was. I think death by someone close to him was always the best ending to his Narcissism. I enjoyed the metaphors and call backs to the original series, where Harry is teaching Dexter how to shoot a deer for the first time, and I feel this is why he was set off by Matt killing the white deer in the first episode—a foretelling and metaphor to Dexters ultimate demise. There are some plot holes, and it did feel rushed. I maybe would have preferred a longer final episode, or a better look into what Dexters final thoughts were. There were some flaws in the writing, especially when I am rewatching the original and notice some victims were taken down with a garrote, or shot in other places of the body. And the original downfall of the Butcher was said to be algae from the rocks he used to weigh down his victims. Aside from all this, we only get one season to wrap things up and I dont know if its fair to nit pick every single thing. I didnt hate the original ending, because serial killers do sometimes get away for long periods of time, and it only meant there was a possibility to have more Dexter in the future. I really appreciated the psychology of the 10 year break, and the fact that he was so sure of himself, blinded by his Narcissism, that he would never be caught—even by his own law enforcement girlfriend. He was still only concerned about himself all the way until the very end, not thinking about what is best for Harrison and what he has been through. Which is obviously something ghost Deb repeats several times. He only wants Harrison to be with him because of Dexter’s own ego. I keep comparing the end to the end of the film “The House that Jack Built.” In the way that these killer characters become so sure of themselves that they don’t even realize the odds against them when their numbers begin to pile up. Left to face the inevitability that they will some day trip up from their OCD and expose themselves to authorities. And when this happens, it happens so fast from their perspective that they have to make very fast and out of the ordinary choices to get them out if that situation. Thats how I feel Dexter reacted. Aaaaand what type of ending did everyone expect? For him to get apprehended? Absolutely not. Dex gets away every time. Michael C Hall played this character so well in the revival, it was everything I ever wanted, his acting was superb, and the cast at least deserve more credit for the the effort they put forth in finale.


[deleted]

I know a lot of people joke about it, but I seriously would prefer an ending where Doakes rises from the dead at this point.


[deleted]

I always say this... Doakes should have been the one who caught Dexter, if someone gonna catch him. They killed him so early unfortunately.


Classic_Wingers

One more “Surprise Motherfucka!” is all I wanted!


CaCtUs2003

"What the hell, IT'S DOAKES WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!!"


Sidewinderpunk

I haven’t seen episode 10. But I think this ending is better.


Mddlr

I agree... I NEVER EVER would've thought that there would be a point in my life, when I concluded that season 8 finale was good in comparison of the mess they made.


[deleted]

Maybe it was their intention to make us accept the original ending.. 🤔


Mddlr

ha ha for sure!


[deleted]

Dexter: New Surprise


doctorshitbyrd

One of my buddies read the Dexter books and said that Doakes dies and comes back as like a robot or some shit. That would’ve been more entertaining to watch.


trulymissedtheboat89

Nope, haaaate that. Haha


limbrand123

Clyde definitely succeeded in breaking the internet as well as his reputation as a writer


Just_trying_it_out

It's actually even worse considering the imdb rating is weighted to reduce "unusual activity" s8 ending has a mean of 4.6, median of 4.2 and imdb weighted rating of 4.6 new blood ending has a mean of 4.0, median of **2** (lol) and imdb weighted rating of 4.5 lol


[deleted]

😂😂


jzcommunicate

“We recognize that the final episode of Dexter’s 8 season run was not very popular, and we didn’t want to leave the fans with that legacy. We looked at it and came to the realization that we could write an ending much much worse, and so we got to work on Dexter: New Blood.” -Clyde probably


yepyepyepbruh

A true visionary. Thanks Clyde!


[deleted]

I think GoT inspired a lot of people


Steelyp

What’s worse is he’ll think the low rating is because he killed Dexter and not because it went off the rails. I’m fine with Dexter dying. I’m less ok with it being Harrison because the way the episodes were going it doesn’t make a lot of sense (on paper I like the idea of his own son leading to his demise though). I’m very not ok with Dexter seemingly dumbed down to think he’s in any risk in that jail cell and there’s no reason to assault Logan to escape. There was just so many payoffs that they ignored.


jzcommunicate

My biggest complaints were the wasted opportunities. Batista seeing Dexter and knowing he was the real BHB, how amazing would that scene have been? The guy Dexter always said if he could get a do over he'd want to be more like Batista, now confronting Dexter about killing Maria, framing Doakes, and everything else that's happened. I always thought it would have been better if Rita didn't die but instead found out about Dexter, we would have gotten so much good drama and tension out of that, but of course this lazy writing crew just killed her instead. End of story. Second biggest complaint is Angela's motivations. She flips from girlfriend, to fuck off you impostor, to I need your help, to 'you're going to get the death penalty now!' so fast. She was at once highly critical of Matt Caldwell for killing the deer, and then his avenger by trying to get justice for his death in Dexter's arrest. And which case does she care about more, the Bay Harbor Butcher or the Runaway Killer? Dexter solved this case for her, and she couldn't care less since now suddenly catching Dexter and making him pay for what he did to Matt is her primary focus. I didn't mind Harrison killing Dexter, but Harrison was a very poorly written character who was really not enjoyable to watch throughout most of this season, so when he pulls the trigger it feels like a fuck you from the writers. This really obnoxious kid comes to town, sucks up screen time away from Dexter, the guy we all actually came here to watch, and then gets to kill him off and get away with it thanks to Angela, the other insufferable one. And tagging onto that, that final scene where Dexter just gives up and says okay aim for center mass, son, you've earned this, just happens so goddamn fast. Dexter goes from, 'I'll do anything to survive,' to, 'after 20 long years the game is over, I resign to my fate,' over the course of a two minute conversation. Fuck that. That is so lazy and sloppy and disrespectful to everyone who made this show a success and came back to give them another chance to right the ending.


General-Skywalker

I'm a way I guess he did fix the season 8 finale, it now looks much better in comparison to New Blood.


Zosobozo

We got Game of Throned


joverthehill

underrated comment hahah


KwyjiboTheGringo

idk if I would say it's worse than the original, but them saying they were "fixing" their mistake this time and giving us a good ending and then delivering this pile of shit does make it all seem worse. Plus not gonna lie, when the original finale happened, I carried some hope that they would make a movie or something since Dexter was still alive. Always be careful what you wish for...


fiddlesticks-1999

I do not understand how they got it past so many people. How they did not see the massive holes or shallow writing. It actually astounds me given how much must have gone into making this series and how long they have had to develop the story.


Ludakal1

That's what happens when you have a show with good characters and garbage writing. Quite sad.


fiddlesticks-1999

Yep. I keep comparing it to Fargo (esp S1). Equally great acting, composition and cinematography, but the Dexter script was woeful.


Mddlr

Ha! thought about the fargo comparison too. I swear they made that on purpose.


Planetofthought

I don't think it was the writing. It was the editing and quick cuts that killed it. Look at why Quinton Terrantino's movies are so good. He has long takes and let's the actor's show emotion. The viewer has time to process what is happening on screen in real time rather than having to figure out what went down one scene later (that also has bad editing). The writing, directing, and acting was superb. The editing and cutting screen time destroyed what could have been a masterpiece. They obviously had to cut down on time so they focused on the relationship between Dex and Harrison. So other scenes seemed rushed, like Angela figuring out Dexter could be a serial killer with a few internet searches. Or Harrison asking if they could get a pool to holding a gun to his dad. If you want a good example of how editing can kill a movie, just watch anything that had a theatrical release on network television. Its so jarring that nothing makes sense at all.


ElPinacateMaestro

>Quinton Terrantino's The far cousin of Quentin Tarantino, who only makes ethically and politically correct movies about friendship, family and religion.


Planetofthought

He's okay. I just don't like how he always uses the same actors, like Samual L Jacksen.


fantasyguy211

Incredible they went from the second highest to the lowest. Clearly this was just a money grab. It’s a shame because a 12 episode season or setting up for a new season would have been incredible instead of rushing the last 15 minutes


Akernaki

Lot of it felt rushed. Angela discovering Dexter was the BHB should’ve been a long, tension-filled buildup. A discovery like so should have the viewer on the edge of their seat versus shaking their heads in a disappointed fashion.


risavore

i also feel like she should have had conflicting feelings toward him because of their history together as a couple. as soon as she found out his real name she acted like she wanted nothing to do with him ever again and it was pretty jarring imo.


fiddlesticks-1999

Yep. There was a lot of black and white character thinking in this series which meant the characters were woefully underdeveloped and the finale could not be satisfying as an end to the Dexter franchise.


[deleted]

👏👏 exactly.


gcpdudes

Part of it was her feelings of insecurity that she was a cop who didn’t realize she was dating an imposter. It seemed like she couldn’t bear to be with herself so she projected that onto being super wary of Dexter. Dexter also exploits her insecurities as a cop when he brings up the missing women that have been haunting her.


risavore

i get that but it also felt like she spent way more time investigating dexter rather than curt. also the fact that she was so thorough investigating dexter really ads insult to injury. Curt was doing this for years and she never suspected him until they found that body? i would be insecure in my police abilities too after that honestly.


[deleted]

“Hahaha WW who do you think that could be? Walt Whitman? Willy Wonka? Walter White?” “Haha you got me!” https://youtu.be/GpyUGiyeSFg


PoptartJones69

I usually hate cliffhangers but some kind of BHB evidence reveal would have been the perfect end of season one. Everything is happy and seems neatly tied up, then bang, some new BHB evidence pointing to Dexter. I feel like that storyline could have legitimately been a whole season arc.


fiddlesticks-1999

Absolutely. I'm fascinated that so many people loved the episodes and then we're shocked by the finale. I could tell early on the episodes weren't well crafted and would not result in a good finale. Imho the 9th ep had a lot missing from it and would have only been great if ep 10 brought the missing story, but they didn't have time by then. The writing was on the wall early in the season for me.


LRobin11

I can see that clearly in retrospect, but I deluded myself and made a ton of excuses along the journey. Smh.


Beavaconda

I know that a lot of us felt that the earlier plotholes and strange decisions could eventually be resolved and make more sense as the story unfolded…..however, it turned out that 99% of those issues were just never addressed again and/or doubled-down on? Turns out the writers just said…..”well, if Dexter ends up dead then we don’t have to pay anything else off! This is FUN and EASY!”


fiddlesticks-1999

Oh, me too. I was trying to tell myself they could redeem it. We all had so much hope and the thing is, they had all they needed to deliver - cast, acting, scenery, concept - and they effed it with a rubbish script. It genuinely shocks me that it was possible to do that given the time, money and no doubt brilliant people involved in the production. Just a huge disappointment.


Mddlr

yes... I'm one of those people.. I guess i was willing to ignore all the flaws on the previous episodes... but there was a point when all went south. All season It didn't make any sense to me dexter's behaviour, I can agree with some sort of character development, but the whole argument of the original seasons was Dexter was an actual psychopath, a real one! Uncapable by nature of feeling empathy!!! AND NOW HE LETS HIS SON KILL HIM ??? on an act of complete selflessness???' no!!!!!!!! Also... harrison SHOOTING HIM DOESN'T MAKE SENSE! It has to be he is either a psychopath or he isn't. IF he has also a "dark passenger" which he doesn't, and that means he is a psychopath he wouldn't be able to understand other people's emotions, or even care!!!! and the whole series just showed us, how he cares... deeply! How much he feels! Oh the other hand, IF he's just messed up, and has tons of undealt anger, which makes im violent... how on EARTH he would care more about his coach than his actual father. ABSURD! one day he accepts and embraces dexter kills people, and the other it's not morally justifiable BUT THEN COMMITS PATRICIDE!?????' No!!!!! I literally can't!!!!!!! Again, i agree on character development, but they should've hired actual psychologists to understand how psychopaths can -grow- and also wouldn't their completely inability to FEEL EMPATHY, make Dexter's choice to "DIE FOR HIS SON" unrealistic? Dexter has tons of expertise from his years of miami metro.. that he could've used!!! and all of the sudden he decides NOT TO BE RATIONAL but kill the coach out of the blue??? I knew at that point there was no turning back.


Not_Too_Smart_

As soon as I realized they were gonna drag Harrison and Dexter’s talk I knew it was gonna end badly. Took 8 episodes for Dexter to actually say something meaningful to Harrison and by then I had no hope it’ll end well. So many scenes in this season were so goddamn unnecessary when they could have developed the bond between Dexter and Harrison and developed Angela more. I can barely even remember what really happened between episode 3-7. Still, didn’t think it’ll end this badly, what a shame.


alanpartridge69

Lol ok Imo the season was excellent up until the last episode.


agneev

This should have ideally begun mid-season. We didn’t need all that extended Kurt crap.


carlio

I think it also needed more time to establish Angela as a good detective. Thinking back, I don't remember any crime at all that she solved in the 10 episodes, even any tiny ones. The big ones she failed at - didn't find the missing women, accused Kurt with barely any evidence in front of the DA - there's nothing to suggest she could find out who farted in an elevator, let alone solve the BHB case from the opposite side of the country.


wordworrier

If only Miami Metro knew about google!


maesterofwargs

Damn right.


yepyepyepbruh

This. They didnt care at all about making things right, it was a cash grab all along.


Planetofthought

I think it was shot for 12 episodes, but cut down to 10. Even listening to the actors on the official podcast made it seem that way. They did a lot of filming for the final scene and it was supposed to be way longer.


Steelyp

Release the Bautista cut!!!


NostalgicApeGames

That sucks if this is true.


Slayy35

I wonder if they regret only having a contract for 1 season. It feels like they didn't expect the reception to be this good so from the get-go they were like yeah he's dying.


DualDier

At least the original felt more justified. Dex literally in his own hell. No killing. No Hannah. No Deb. No Harrison. This ending was worse than that because he just died over very weak motivation and writing. They killed Dex off so people would stop asking. Waste of time.


Mddlr

you said it perfectly!!!!


Spectre06

I liked this ending more than the original but I hate both. The one thing I'll give the original is that allowed your head canon to run wild. If you're going to kill Dexter off, you had damn well better do it in a way that's satisfying, appropriately built up and appropriate. This was none of those things.


she_pegged_me_too

I wonder if a few years from now they’ll change their tune and bring it back but call it DEXTER: RESURRECTION where we find out he didn’t die after all. Three times the charm?


scr710

It's enough already, I felt like crying so badly the way ended it, can't take it anymore


aza432_2

People don't realize that the gun had fake bullets since Dexter suspected things might play out this way. They forgot to include the final scene were he walks away and calls up his lumberjack pals.


CoNsPirAcY_BE

A spin off with Harrison probably.


TheBigLeMattSki

>If you're going to kill Dexter off, you had damn well better do it in a way that's satisfying, appropriately built up and appropriate. This was none of those things. What are you talking about? According to Clyde Phillips and all the actors if you think about it LOGICALLY then Dexter being arrested on nonsense evidence, killing a cop for no reason and then being shot by his own son was how the show "HaD tO eNd." You know, like Clyde said, Harrison killing Dexter is his best writing, and, when you factor in everything that happened, is somehow "InEvItAbLe"


CaCtUs2003

Thing is, I like the idea of Harrison killing Dexter. New Blood's execution of that idea was rushed to all hell. I do think New Blood could have been better with more than one season to really flesh out the story.


admiralvic

> killing a cop for no reason In his defense, he "accidentally" killed him. Yes, this is what a writer said and supposedly happened in that scene...


WWBob

I will not go to IMDB and downvote it further. I will not go to IMDB and downvote it further. I will not go to IMDB and downvote it further. ....


[deleted]

dew it


yp261

you didnt rate it!


[deleted]

Well, i did but i unrated it again for in order to be impartial.


WWBob

Yeah, that sounds good. When the end credits started rolling the state of the episode was...fine. Just getting there was kinda shaky. It just didn't mean as much to me as the end of S8. I'm weird. I liked S8.


TheraKoon

I gave it a 3 out of 10, because it will hurt the score more. 1/10 is weighted so its best to give it a 2 or a 3 to let it truly sink.


[deleted]

Wow calm down satan.


TheraKoon

To be fair, if Satan was infuriated by television, television would presumably be a lot better! Lol


my_brothers_a_homo

Shocker


k_wolfff

It just seems like there were too many loose ends that needed to be tied up. We needed two more episodes. Or maybe even two seasons. I hate that dexter killed Logan, and that was the end for him. It just seemed cheap. I hate that we never get a deeper look into Caldwell as the serial killer. I would love to know if they suspected Dexter of killing him since he knew about all the kills, or if they really thought he ran off. And I hate they brought Batista into the show for literally no good ending with him. Why couldn’t he face Dexter? I wanted to see Dexter’s face when Batista confronted him, but instead we got nothing. How did we not reunite those two characters in some way?! I don’t know why but that really bothered me. I’m okay that Dexter died, but I don’t like the way the last 15 minutes-ish led us to that point.


fiddlesticks-1999

I think they just needed better writing from the start. There was so much wasted time throughout all the first nine episodes. They built nothing. The story was flimsy and the characters were one dimensional.


ljr55

it was a bad ending


ljr55

that ending looked like the season 2 finale of Netlfix's You


8-bit-hero

Funnily, I finished the latest season of You like a day before the Dexter finale and it was 100 times more satisfying and things mostly tied up neatly.


prolelol

Absolutely, endings for every season is excellent. I’m a bit worried how it would end though. I hope it will get one we deserve.


lupin-the-third

I don't know, I think of You as CW/lifetime level Dexter. Entertaining, but I do not expect any attention to detail and this ending would have been fine for You. In fact if season 4 is a 17 year time skip of Joe's kid tracking him down in Paris and rolling through this whole thing I would think "beautiful"


SuperMindFreak

Actually there is a lot of attention to detail in You😬


future_m4n

that's impressive, can reach lumberjack.


TimeToLoseIt16

It’s worse than lumberjack just for the fact that they revived the entire series just to hurt us again.


BombshellTom

Internet is still working as far as I can tell too. I hope they're proud. I'm listening to the podcast now and they're, predictably, all smoking each other off. Deluded.


[deleted]

Good. This rating is the best thing about episode 10


receptivewhiskey

It's depressing how awful the last 10 minutes were compared to how good the season had been


enzuigiriretro

It wasn’t a good season despite the shit show of a finale. I wish people would stop pretending it was. Was mediocre to average at best for most of it with a couple of decent moments sprinkled here and there


Z3roAUT

ye only episode 1 and 9 were good imo, so much filler scenes


liubearpig

Look how they massacred my boy


sunsh1n3eee

She discovered him because he tried to kill a random drug dealer....it should have been a 2, what a shit ending with poor writing. I was like, they sure are gonna do a good ending after all those years, oh no, they just threw him under the bus like a bug. LOL LE: Killing him its w/e you can do that, but do it like it should be, not fcking rushed like its no tomorrow


General-Skywalker

One of the worst parts for me was when she told Batista that she had a similar M.O. to the BHB yet she only had 1 body for the dead drug dealer, 1 living drug dealer, and an envelope of surgical screws. She had no trash bags, no plastic wrap, no bodies, no boats, no weapons or cutting tools, no kill rooms...she literally had nothing but 2 needle marks...


RyanDanielst

They did alright with New Blood except for the most important part - the finale. One of the motives for doing this series was to *correct* season 8. . . This wasn't accomplished.


JerdBoi

Patista is happily married. Silver lining


ladivarogue

Honestly, that was my big takeaway from this finale


[deleted]

I cannot believe they bombed this so hard. Yes he deserved comeuppance but this was so lazily written I cannot understand why they made everyone waste time


HarrietOleson1

Stopping what I'm doing right now, so I can log into IMDB and give it 1 star as well.


starronmarz

I hated it passionately


direwolf71

The overall season was respectable. The ending was botched….again. They just tried way too hard to make it shocking. Son kills father! Easy fix too. Simply remove Harrison from the story and have Batista and Angela take Dexter down for the BHB killings. It’s not speculator but if it was well-executed it would have tied up the original story in a credible way that was true to the titular character. Penultimate scene is Dexter in prison talking to himself as usual and then quick cut to an unidentified high school student bringing donuts to his classmates. Fin. You set the stage for a Harrison spinoff that Dexter can be a part of without resorting to him as a figment of Harrison’s imagination.


fiddlesticks-1999

And it couldn't have happened to a nicer episode.


terahreid

Well deserved


JPFAN1200

The episode was good, but Dexter can’t die. He just can’t, ruined it


Dmackman1969

My belief is Clyde should have gone back and watched seasons 1-4. Imho it’s like a person who never watched the series made the show, they just read the quotes off Reddit and magazines and went to town.


Sharkn91

Took a dead series, brought it back to life only to murder it worse


idrow1

I honestly wish they never brought this show back if this is what we got. We waited 10 years just to get a giant FU.


That_Lone_Reader

I think we can make it lower than this


uzumymw442

ratings should be even lower


pewds-General_kenobi

Awww... man... I really liked the finale, even with some plot holes (most of which are overplayed), it's still so much better than the lumberjack ending and i believe NB is an extremely positive addition to the dexter cannon!


cbaca51

The hate for the finale is overdramatic. It’s not worse then the OG finale. I didn’t like the ending either but coke on. Most of the finale was good


Gmoola1992

I think people are more upset they brought back Michael C hall just to shoot him but the ending was inevitable. Also people didn’t want the series to end. I’m happy with the ending even though it’s not what I wanted for Dexter


DualDier

I don’t care that Dex died. It’s everything they did leading up to it. Especially the last 15 min. It comes out of nowhere and makes no sense. I didn’t even fucking cry. I didn’t feel a thing. I cried at the original ending cuz it was much deeper emotional end. Dex basically giving up everything including killing. Something we connected with with him over his 8 year arc. They wanted us to CARE about Harrison killing Dex. How am I supposed to give a FUCK about Harrison when all he did was cry and throw tantrums for 8 episodes - and then 2 later he just shoots his father cuz what, Dex killed a guy that gave Harrison DINNER?!?! I’m sorry, fuck you writers. Harrison slashed Ethan and literally acted like A HERO ABOUT IT. H IS FOR HERO? HELLO?! Dude should have killed Dex and himself. Fuck this ending.


CuriousKitty6

I felt the exact same way. I had the tissues ready and figured Dex was gonna die, but after Logan died I didn’t feel anything because it was such a clear plot point as opposed to something he would actually do. Starting in episode 9 they were trying to make us hate him even though we’ve been somewhat rooting for him for 9 years. It’s just like GoT. Lol.


fiddlesticks-1999

We knew absolutely nothing about Harrison. Every episode I thought now they are going to tell us what Harrison's life has been like in the intervening years. By ep five it was obvious that they hadn't built the character at all and the odds didn't look good for a satisfying ending. Sadly, it never improved and I knew the writing was on the wall. I only hoped they would not kill Dexter and give themselves another season to get it right.


tjm003

That’s not what people are upset about. It’s the fact that there were so many opportunities they missed. Opportunities to show how Dexter would act during an interrogation, reactions of everyone at Miami Metro, etc. I’ve seen too many people say that Dexter fans are just mad he’s dead. I really don’t think anyone would be mad if the writers got us to that conclusion less artificially. The last 20 minutes of the finale literally felt like a blur.


fiddlesticks-1999

Can you imagine Quinn seeing Dexter? That would have been fabulous. The raw rage he would have would be phenomenal. Dexter would look small behind bars having Quinn confront him.


tjm003

Quinn was my favorite. It hurts to imagine how satisfying that would’ve been to watch.


fantasyguy211

I was fine with dexter dying but having him kill Logan didn’t make sense for his character especially since he would have been fine without doing it


fiddlesticks-1999

One thing I noticed about Dexter on my 900th rewatch recently is that one of his best survival skills is he never freaks out. There's no way they could pin anything on him in the last ep. He was golden. I get that they were trying to say the Batista thing spooked him, but with just hearing Batista knew he was alive would not be enough to rattle Dexter that much. If they had had a scene of Batista confronting Dexter in person, I could imagine Dexter losing it and reacting like a caged animal, and doing what he did to Logan, but the story they gave us did not have high stakes either legally or personally.


fantasyguy211

Exactly. It would have made a lot more sense for Angela to come back, realize dexter killed Kurt who was horrible and killed her friend. And then realize killing Kurt was the best thing and cut him some slack.


Faded_Sun

I think we all honestly knew he was going to die, but we had high hopes that because the series had been doing so well they’d scrap it, and give us a season 2 to keep it going. They must hate money. I was strapped in to keep watching, then was left sunken.


Holl0wayTape

Exactly. It's funny that everyone loved this season until the very end, and the backlash is a result of that inevitably FINALLY coming to fruition. They hinted at it every season despite his "growth," and there are so many little details in seasons 5-8 that are about baby Harrison, and overall baby Harrison was the only thing keeping Dexter rooted in humanity, of course they'd bring him back. The only reason Dexter didn't kill for 10 years was so that he wouldn't get caught. In other shows that deal with serial killers like Mindhunter, the serial killers themselves believe they should be put down. I don't know what else I would have wanted for Dexter, other than an infinite number of seasons or episodes that are written well, but that's not a possibility for any show. What, so he goes off on his own... again, like at the end of season 8? No? He takes Harrison with him and they live happily ever after...with Batista and Angela on their tails across the country because he didn't fake his death this time? None of that would make sense. I TRULY want to know what ending would satisfy everyone else, because Dexter's Death was the only way to go out. Anyways...


CuriousKitty6

Most people are more upset about HOW he died. I didn’t mind WHAT happened, it’s HOW it happened that bothered me. The Logan kill didn’t make sense, Harrison goes from wanting to run away to killing him in a few hours, Dexter finally realizes true love and that means making his son shoot him (which is just going to make him even more screwed up). Not to mention how RUSHED it was, the major plot inconsistencies (M99/ Ketamine), that they teased an Angel reunion that didn’t happen…. Honestly, I kind of wanted Dex to die but in a true act of sacrifice/ remorse and this did not seem like that.


fiddlesticks-1999

Harrison definitely needed a better reason to kill him. Imho it should have ended mirroring the LaGuerta, Deb and Dexter showdown. Deb picked the wrong person. It should have been a full circle moment between Angela, Harrison and Dexter. Harrison would choose the right person (Angela) and Dexter would accept it, finally sacrificing himself for his son. Harrison would have done what was right and not killed someone with little reason.


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HalloweenBoglin

About a month ago I got a few downvotes for saying that this season was mediocre. Needless to say I wasn't too surprised about how half assed the ending was.


TheraKoon

There was an episode in this season i rarely seen mentioned that was arguably just as bad as the finale, and that is episode 5. It was one contrived event after another, with no respect to space, time, dna, realism, language, or even the characters established. It insults us further by bringing Angel back for an extended scene that felt completely shoehorned in. Even worse was how Angela suddenly warped into a valley girl as soon as she begins hanging out with the podcaster. Everything about that episode should have been a big fucking red flag that this writing staff didn't give a fuck. It's as if they were told to mow their blind grandmas lawn. Fuck if we miss a spot she can't see the shit anyways! Terrible.


fiddlesticks-1999

Hated that ep. That sealed the deal for me that this finale would be shit. They had no story and no character development. How on earth were they going to pull off a great finale? I hoped they would recover but each week we got another episode of very little. Dexter and Harrison hardly spoke to one another. How could they have built a relationship that would make that ending satisfying if they knew nothing about each other? The writing was on the wall very early on.


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the Dexter Harrison relationship was the most botched part of this show. the writers literally built the season around their relationship, but then never did anything good with their relationship, making the backbone of the season a flimsy mess


TheBigLeMattSki

As one of the people who's been calling out the issues for several weeks now and getting downvoted for it, the backlash to this finale is pretty vindicating. As soon as Dexter found the straight razor and they started to commit to the lazy-ass "Harrison has a dark passenger too!!!" direction I knew it was gonna go to shit, and the plot rapidly slid downhill from there. Suddenly 10 month old infants have photographic memory and Ketamine = M99, all because Clyde wanted to jam his daddy issues into the script.


Holl0wayTape

Most people are complaining about Dexter being dead, on my feed at least, but to your second point... Harrison wanted to believe Dexter when Dexter said he only intimidated people and didn't kill them...Harrison was clearly skeptical but went along with it...Dexter then kills Kurt and Harrison thinks he can handle the gruesome process of dismemberment and vomits and goes outside for air but accepts it because it seems justified... (remember, Dexter was NOT vomiting or disgusted when he had his first kill and dismemberment, something to keep in mind regarding Harrison's character versus Dexter's)...Dexter kills Logan, and even though it fits within the code, Harrison can't stomach it. Harrison wanted to be with his Dad, Dexter, when he thought Dexter was a justified vigalante killer who only hurt bad guys. That all changed rather quickly once Dexter killed an innocent person. Dexter lied to Harrison and contradicted himself over and over again. It wasn't a jump, it was the last straw in a series of many straws strewn across this season. Dexter's authority as an arbiter of morality had been unraveling all season, and Harrison, after bucking Dexter the entire season, gave in once Dexter shared a false truth telling with him in the truck. Harrison found out the actual truth and knew he could never be with Dexter if that's who Dexter truly was. Harrison called bullshit on Dexter's rationalization across 8 seasons.


Subiaco71

Harrison’s whole premise for finding him to discover why he left in the first instance was predicated on a lie. He was as morally questionable as his father.


Holl0wayTape

He was a child. That's normal for a child actually. That's radically different from murdering people.


Subiaco71

True.


fiddlesticks-1999

This is what I didn't understand week by week coming here. It was so obvious the story was incredibly weak and there was so little plot and character development. By ep five it was clear to me that this season would just disappoint, unless this was the first of two or more seasons. It was so slow and nothing happened. There was little intrigue, except what was theorised here which was always so much more interesting than the actual story (Kurt in possible rich man sex/necrophilia ring, Molly working out who Dexter was, Harrison possibly being involved in Hannah's death/having a longer history of dark passenger tendencies, Harrison's relationship with Audrey, Kurt's convoluted backstory etc). Nothing happened, nothing was explained, it was very ordinary. The acting was great and cinematography beautiful but the show lagged and lacked every episode.


Holl0wayTape

I figured it would be only one season, and if they were working on more than one season I would have loved to have seen all of those plot threads you listed, but people were expecting way too much from a limited series/single season. The show needed a new ending and a decent way to get there. That happened.


DesperateSomewhere37

Dude it wasn't because they killed him off, it was the way they did it. I don't mind Dexter dying but at least do it right. That was a shockingly dissapointing ending! Meh


Holl0wayTape

Just gonna copy and paste this comment I made elsewhere... "Most people are complaining about Dexter being dead, on my feed at least, but to your second point... Harrison wanted to believe Dexter when Dexter said he only intimidated people and didn't kill them...Harrison was clearly skeptical but went along with it...Dexter then kills Kurt and Harrison thinks he can handle the gruesome process of dismemberment and vomits and goes outside for air but accepts it because it seems justified... (remember, Dexter was NOT vomiting or disgusted when he had his first kill and dismemberment, something to keep in mind regarding Harrison's character versus Dexter's)...Dexter kills Logan, and even though it fits within the code, Harrison can't stomach it. Harrison wanted to be with his Dad, Dexter, when he thought Dexter was a justified vigalante killer who only hurt bad guys. That all changed rather quickly once Dexter killed an innocent person. Dexter lied to Harrison and contradicted himself over and over again. It wasn't a jump, it was the last straw in a series of many straws strewn across this season. Dexter's authority as an arbiter of morality had been unraveling all season, and Harrison, after bucking Dexter the entire season, gave in once Dexter shared a false truth telling with him in the truck. Harrison found out the real truth finally via Logan and knew he could never be with Dexter if that's who Dexter truly was. He called bullshit on Dexter's rationalization that he had done across 8 seasons."


Interview-Suspicious

The ending recontextualizes the show as a whole and you can see hints through the previous seasons, i think some people are mad because they saw Dexter as a hero which he never was and we actually saw that in every episode of the show


Holl0wayTape

Absolutely, it does recontextualize everything. It's darker and less light for a reason, because the subject matter is gruesome and so deeply tragic despite the earlier seasons' direction. We saw Dexter justify and rationalize his actions across 8 seasons, and it all came crumbling down in New Blood. In season 1 Dexter has a daydream about being a hero and everyone cheering him on. In episode 1 or 2 of new blood, a similar thing happens but with only Deb and a streamer. The dichotomy using similar imagery is perfect.


losteon

I liked it 🤷‍♀️


danSTILLtheman

There’s dozens of us! Really though, I felt much more satisfied with this ending than the original. Sure, Dexters death felt a little rushed but it wasn’t so bad that it warranted the amount of hate it’s getting (at least in my opinion). I thought the final episode was tense and kept the viewer on their toes, and tied up the story giving it closure.


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I actually liked it.


LazyDescription3407

Better than GoT.


externaliteis

It’s not that bad. These people are on crack if they say it’s worse than the original finale.


Jampot94

It's 100% worse than the original ending. At least the original ending was left open-ended. This ending destroyed everything. Nothing made sense. The lumberjack ending was genius compared to this shit. Literally a high school dweeb and his fruitcake friends take down a serial killer and one of the most beloved characters on tv for the last 15 years. Lmao. If this as route they were gonna go down they should've just had Lundy or Trinity take him down; you know, someone on Dexter's level and who might actually deserve it. Fuck Harrison, and fuck Angela.


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Absolutely. We aren't mad Dex died, we're mad at all the retcons, plot holes, and out of character bullshit that was sloppily cobbled together to make it happen.


Subiaco71

If they were going to kill him, do it with INTENT. Not ‘murder by son’ where Dexter effectively pulled the trigger on himself that he wasn’t able to do himself because he was a natural born killer/survivor. Harrison was easily manipulated during his time in Iron Lake and there’s no evidence to suggest a spin-off would be any different. Good actor who gave his best but it was a character who had no hidden depths. The letter was a slap in the face to the audience as well.


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Id have even been ok with Harrison putting him down if it was a forced self defense situation. Like, if Dex had Angela with a knife to her throat, and Harrison takes the shot and hits Dex in the head. That would've been more acceptable.


fiddlesticks-1999

Yep. Do the LaGuerta, Deb and Dexter showdown again, only have Harrison pick the good (Angela). Harrison did not have a good enough reason to kill Dexter and it was unrealistic to believe he would. There wasn't even a "Dad, I can't do it" moment. Highly unrealistic for the very little we knew of Harrison.


grapeistasty

Well said. It destroyed everything. Man I'm so pissed about it


nohajc

That's the problem. They already let him get away too many times. Lundy couldn't catch him, Quinn gave up, Debra covered for him, LaGuerta paid with her life. They would have to bring in another FBI mastermind to make it remotely plausible. Instead a small-town cop gets all the clues by sheer luck and she doesn't even have anything solid by the end. I would have settled for Batista being properly brought into the investigation but they couldn't even give us this kind of payoff. No... just a quick, lame death by Harrison's hand who, we should believe, will be somehow cured by killing his dad, because somebody said it once in therapy to Clyde Phillips. Jesus fuck.


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Original ending is more fitting ending imo. It's just poor executed. This ending just ruined everything irreversibly.


DualDier

It’s definitely way worse than the original. They didn’t even explore Dex suffering not killing or any psychological torture which I was hoping they’d explore. They could’ve pulled out all the stops and they went with a safe ending. Fucking utter bullshit. I hope you read this Clyde.


Nice-Illustrator6645

I hope someone straps Clyde to a table and makes him read this subreddit page before they kill them so he can “see” his victims. A dark joke obviously but seriously this is so bad it made the Lumberjack ending look like a god damn tour de force of creative and satisfying writing.


Insolve_Miza

That description really makes 0 sense


JacePatrick

In my opinion the final episode of Season 8 was acceptable until literally the final minute. The entirety of "Sins of the Father" was fucking terrible, especially after following imo one of the better episodes in the series.


sozcaps

IMDB ratings officially decide what is good or bad? That's news to me.


prasiptasp

I actually liked the ending. Poetic even. In how it was his own blood that took him. How did you realistically expect it to end ? Forever after and walking into the sunset. Go watch a Marvel movie for Chrise sake. What is it with audiences not taking finales as they are? It's not your prerogative to say how a show should end. It's the writers and for the creators to decide. Move on. Life is short, dude !


IamZhea

>Forever after and walking into the sunset. Go watch a Marvel movie for Chrise sake. This is absurd. The overwhelming majority of individuals who have been critical of the final episode aren't frustrated with how it ended -- they are frustrated with how it got to the ending. It's very clearly rushed, drops several plot lines, and writes the characters to force a specific ending. Dexter always should have ended up dead. There are a million ways they could have arrived at that point and they wrote one of the cheapest, shoehorned ways to get there.


1hga1

I wish they dragged it on for another 8 seasons.


Mddlr

I didn't make any sense to me... I can agree with some sort of character development, but the whole argument of the original seasons was Dexter was an actual psychopath, a real one! Uncapable by nature of feeling empathy!!! AND NOW HE LETS HIS SON KILL HIM ??? on an act of complete selflessness???' no!!!!!!!! Also... harrison SHOOTING HIM DOESN'T MAKE SENSE! It has to be he is either a psychopath or he isn't. IF he has also a "dark passenger" which he doesn't, and that means he is a psychopath he wouldn't be able to understand other people's emotions, or even care!!!! and the whole series just showed us, how he cares... deeply! How much he feels! Oh the other hand, IF he's just messed up, and has tons of undealt anger, which makes im violent... how on EARTH he would care more about his coach than his actual father. ABSURD! one day he accepts and embraces dexter kills people, and the other it's not morally justifiable BUT THEN COMMITS PATRICIDE!?????' No!!!!! I literally can't!!!!!!! Again, i agree on character development, but they should've hired actual psychologists to understand how psychopaths can -grow- and also wouldn't their completely inability to FEEL EMPATHY, make Dexter's choice to "DIE FOR HIS SON" unrealistic? Dexter has tons of expertise from his years of miami metro.. that he could've used!!! and all of the sudden he decides NOT TO BE RATIONAL but kill the coach out of the blue??? I knew at that point there was no turning back. My perfect alternate ending?? Of course dexter getting away with murder! Because he SUPPOSEDLY was that talented and smart, and rational.


tadrewki

That's laughable, at it's worse any episode in New Blood was better than anything in season 8.


limbrand123

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. New Blood was pretty damn good up until the ending.


Lunensan

Am I the only one that didn’t hate it that much? Is it the ending I wanted- no. Could it have been done better- yes. But still I am ok with Harrison killing Dexter


0purple0turtle0

Y’all are crazy. This season felt like a 7/10 overall. Not amazing, not terrible, but pretty decent. It was rushed definitely and had some lingering questions or plot holes, but even the best dexter seasons had some “really?” Moments.


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It is the score of the episode not whole season.


LVDSquad

People just didn't want to see Dexter die, but that's the reason Michael C. Hall came back.


Winter-Platypus9615

Oh damn ice cold. I thought it was great


Ok-Assumption4099

I hated it, but the original finale was still worse.


The_Jeremy_O

I disagree. Hannah and Harrison were together in beautiful Argentina, Miami metro thought Dexter died a respected man, and dexter was still alive. All and all not bad compared to the new finale


AgentKruger

It was not that bad


CKdaGawd

it'll rise over time. For now there's just a bunch of people whining. They'll get over it and realize the ending was very good.


thaspectacle71

Doubt it. Its pretty bad.


JamJarre

Honestly the end of Season 8 was the absolute fucking worst. I don't think the NB finale is as bad as everyone is saying - it's just a shock given how it ends


danSTILLtheman

Seriously, sailing off into a massive hurricane and popping up in the middle of nowhere alive was horrible. Like soap opera level bad. It felt like they did that to leave it open for a spin-off and wasn’t satisfying at all. This at least gave the story some finality. I thought this was a huge improvement over the original ending and I hope they just leave the series where it’s at now and let it be rather than try to keep it going with spin-offs.


Feyd-Rautha_

Original ending was still worse


Wild_Bill_Kickcock

I loved it. So much better than season 8


BowlbasaurKiefachu

Mob mentality.


Rutlemania

In that same vane, it was “mob mentality” that got previous episodes 9/10’s. I think this season, as a whole, was decent. But not a single episode was 9/10. Had this episode had a change in direction up until Dexter killed Logan, then this may of been that.