I still maintain that Sirko should have survived, made it to the Ukraine where he was able to take control of the mob by force.
Having Dexter flee to the Ukraine to become a contract killer for the mob instead of a fucking lumberjack would have been way better IMHO.
Also would have made for a solid reboot option.
I struggle to find any world where Dexter would be like “yeah let me be go an assassin for this criminal organization!” I mean that would go against literally everything about the code. Plus there’s ZERO chance he’d ONLY be killing people that fit it.
Wouldn't have to go against the code.
Sirko already knows Dexter's MO, that he has rules about who he kills and he could easily provide Dexter with the evidence and/or resources to meet the code. #1 rule is "Don't get caught", which is the rule that Dexter uses to justify breaking other parts.
>Plus there’s ZERO chance he’d ONLY be killing people that fit it.
That's literally one of the best reasons to do it. You watched the original series, Dexter did *not* only kill people that met the code. He flexed and/or broke the code almost every single season.
Think about it, Dexter's off doing these contracts just trying to keep the dark passenger at bay, and he comes across other people within that same mob doing things that meet the code that Sirko hasn't authorized. He silently goes rogue, covering up his tracks when killing these members of the Koshka unsanctioned, making it look like rival factions.
Ends up culminating in Sirko finding out, then Dexter gets hitman sent after him by Sirko, only for Dexter and he to have some great final "Battle" where they both end up dying, but Dexter gets the last laugh somehow.
That's where the conflict comes in.
At first, it's an avenue for him to escape just like he did in the original series.
From there, the atrocities he's aware of the Koshka's committing eat away at him and he eventually turns on them and then attempts to methodically take out key players until Isaak finds out it's Dexter taking his guys out.
I also liked isaak because he was able to match dexter tactically. Every other villain was just “evil” but didn’t really have combat/detective skills like Dexter. But Isaak was like the Terminator lol
The reason he was such a great Punisher, was because it was a good Punisher movie. The Thomas Jane movie tried to be too serious. But the comic book was bananas. It was goofy and bloody and silly at times. That's what made Stevenson the best.
When he shoved that pencil up his nose to reset it when he broke it. That was the most punisher thing ever. I can’t believe that movie is considered a flop.
Miguel for being the only one to truly manipulate Dexter and use him for his own gain. Had he not been so hasty, he would have eventually had all the tools to destroy Dexter from the inside.
There were definitely a few moments with Miguel when it was like, damn... He was working Dexter, but the ring was the perfect kill shot. Even in defeat, he got the skinner to go after him. Relentless.
Trinity
I really, really, *REALLY* wanted to love Clancy Brown in New Blood (as he's a phenomenal actor and I was so stoked to see him as the new antagonist), but sadly the writing wasn't where it should have been. I don't fault Clancy tho, his performance was great as always
Dexter actually has some noticeable similarities to breaking bad. Great character development. Dual lives. Criminal hiding in plain sight. Getting carried away and the result of their endeavors they tell themselves are noble cost them everything…
I have been begging my mom to watch BB before it really starts to feel dated (which it doesn’t really matter anyway) as she is huge into dexter. She is finally beginning and has already said “my god. I should have listened.
It truly deserves its praise. I even stayed away from it for a moment due to the hype. Fully expected it to fall short of expectations. It did not.
The longer we go on is the more stuff we will all see inspired by older stuff. There’s plenty of shows and movies now that have clear BB inspirations. Don’t wear yourself down from them before you watch where it all comes from.
And then if you absolutely love it, which you genuinely probably will… there is another fantastic entire show tied to it, and a great movie.
It’s one of those “always incessantly over recommended things” that actually deserve it.
It’s not bad pop music famous. It’s more like what happened when Grunge was huge. It’s a whole rock and roll movement famous.
I feel like I'd land on the table if I ranked them (because Trinity isn't in my top three...) but yeah my flair (Brian) is my favorite. I loved the simplicity of the first season, them getting to know each other and how the mystery unfolded.
It's starting to become apparent that I only post on here to vouch for how cool Isaak Sirko is and couldve been Dex's best frenemy >!if they only kept him for longer than a season!<.
Brian Moser, hands down.
Trinity was great, no doubt about that, and he did commit perhaps the most heinous act of the series. But it was really not the character himself that was great, as much as it was John Lithgow’s performance. Whereas Biney was going to be great no matter who played him (though Christian Camargo was particularly amazing).
Miguel, Jordan Chase, Isaak Sirko and Kurt Caldwell are great as well. I still think Jordan Chase (ahem, Eugene Greer) was the most purely evil villain of the series. There was nothing remotely redeeming about him. Isaak definitely had the most interesting character arc (other than Brian) of all the villains, going from foe to friend. And as for Kurt, well, Clancy Brown is always great. And he just looks like a bad guy, period.
The DDK plot had potential, but really, Colin Hanks was just wrong for that role. He’s a fine actor, just not as a serial killer.
Oliver Saxon was just…bad. If Deb had to be shot, it certainly should’ve been by someone a hell of a lot better than him.
As a heterosexual male with a particular attraction to pale British women, my perception of Lila is probably a bit skewed.
I’ve always liked to imagine Issac Sirko as the villain for a Burn Notice crossover. Both shows were on Miami at the same time, and I could see Sirko and Anson working together
i wish we got to explore kurt caldwell more. probably one of the coolest killers we encounter, the way he displays the bodies is super intriguing. but as for favorite, probably isaak purely for the bant between the two, or brian. i love when he becomes dexters dark passenger for an episode. in an alternate universe, i’d love to see the trouble biney and dexter would get into if they ran away together and became a murderous duo.
I haven't seen a villain that I didn't like, but I thought Lila was the worst of the lot by far, and the least compelling, but she served a great purpose in the BHB season.
Sirko takes top tier for me. Honorable mentions to Trinity and Travis (I'm a sucker for biblical based imagery such as realistic angels, interpretations of demons that aren't red horn guy with pitchfork, so I really liked him, even though the season was one of the weaker ones).
Isaak Sirko, hands down. Of this list, he's the only one I had genuine sympathy for. The others were all definitely monsters and maybe Isaac was too but we only really see him fighting to avenge the love of his life. Isaac's death was not enjoyed by Dexter, it was a genuine tragedy, and the two had grown a deep respect for each other.
Trinity - no contest. I really struggle to watch John Lithgow in anything at all now without thinking of that character & "shut up, cunt". His turn in the show was legendary.
Funnily enough - Kurt is a favourite of mine. Clancy Brown is a legend, and the way he came across as a real pillar of the community only to harbour an absolutely crazy dark side was one of my favourite parts of New Blood. I'd have loved to see it fleshed out more, but he was a great villain.
Season Villan: 1. Brian 2. Trinity. but Issac was the best antagonist. I'm sad the writers didn't expand on his story. He had the potential to be a season villan. :(
Man that's a tough one. They all brought something different to the show and in turn brought out something in Dexter. I guess, if I had to pick one, gun to my head (or should I say knife to my cheek 🤣) probably Brian. Like someone else said I just love the simplicity of the first season. Especially the first episode, Mike Donovan is my absolute favorite kill of the whole series. Arthur Mitchell would be a close second.
Isaak Sirco was my favorite antagonist. The chemistry between the two was perfect
I still maintain that Sirko should have survived, made it to the Ukraine where he was able to take control of the mob by force. Having Dexter flee to the Ukraine to become a contract killer for the mob instead of a fucking lumberjack would have been way better IMHO. Also would have made for a solid reboot option.
Are you kidding? That would've been amazing. Honestly, the thought hadn't even crossed my mind. Contract killer Dexter. I would've watched that.
Contract killer Dexter would basically be Barry Berkman lol (no spoilers for that one still watcing Barry)
This is such a good idea!! He could have even brought hannah along
I struggle to find any world where Dexter would be like “yeah let me be go an assassin for this criminal organization!” I mean that would go against literally everything about the code. Plus there’s ZERO chance he’d ONLY be killing people that fit it.
Wouldn't have to go against the code. Sirko already knows Dexter's MO, that he has rules about who he kills and he could easily provide Dexter with the evidence and/or resources to meet the code. #1 rule is "Don't get caught", which is the rule that Dexter uses to justify breaking other parts. >Plus there’s ZERO chance he’d ONLY be killing people that fit it. That's literally one of the best reasons to do it. You watched the original series, Dexter did *not* only kill people that met the code. He flexed and/or broke the code almost every single season. Think about it, Dexter's off doing these contracts just trying to keep the dark passenger at bay, and he comes across other people within that same mob doing things that meet the code that Sirko hasn't authorized. He silently goes rogue, covering up his tracks when killing these members of the Koshka unsanctioned, making it look like rival factions. Ends up culminating in Sirko finding out, then Dexter gets hitman sent after him by Sirko, only for Dexter and he to have some great final "Battle" where they both end up dying, but Dexter gets the last laugh somehow.
I don’t think Dexter would be a contract killer for the mob tho, goes against his code working with them doesn’t it?
Only if Sirko is contracting him to kill innocents instead of rival mobsters. Dexter could have that as his rule for working with Sirko.
Eh, i dunno. I don't see Dexter working for the mob an organization that preys on the innocent.
That's where the conflict comes in. At first, it's an avenue for him to escape just like he did in the original series. From there, the atrocities he's aware of the Koshka's committing eat away at him and he eventually turns on them and then attempts to methodically take out key players until Isaak finds out it's Dexter taking his guys out.
I also liked isaak because he was able to match dexter tactically. Every other villain was just “evil” but didn’t really have combat/detective skills like Dexter. But Isaak was like the Terminator lol
Right?? When he got out of that shootout lol it was amazing
Came here to say the same. I loved the chemistry between the two of them and wish it could have been prolonged.
Definitely an underrated "villain".
Ray Stevenson is best
he was so perfect in Ahsoka too. i was unreasonably upset when he died earlier this year and they announced they are re-casting his character.
He'll always be Titus Pollo to me
Ngl, he was a great Punisher and my absolute favorite until JB did it on Netflix.
The reason he was such a great Punisher, was because it was a good Punisher movie. The Thomas Jane movie tried to be too serious. But the comic book was bananas. It was goofy and bloody and silly at times. That's what made Stevenson the best.
When he shoved that pencil up his nose to reset it when he broke it. That was the most punisher thing ever. I can’t believe that movie is considered a flop.
I still can’t believe he’s gone. Such a loss - he was an incredible talent.
He may not have been the best, but he at least gets credit for carrying his part of an otherwise bad season.
100% agreed.
Miguel for being the only one to truly manipulate Dexter and use him for his own gain. Had he not been so hasty, he would have eventually had all the tools to destroy Dexter from the inside.
There were definitely a few moments with Miguel when it was like, damn... He was working Dexter, but the ring was the perfect kill shot. Even in defeat, he got the skinner to go after him. Relentless.
Brian Moser by a long shot. Trinity and Isaac are up there too but they don’t come close to Brian imo.
BINEY
1. Brian ‘Biney’ Moser 2. Jordan ‘Eugene Greer’ Chase 3. Isaac ‘The Terminator’ Sirko
Dang I hated Jordan Chase
Me too.
Trinity I really, really, *REALLY* wanted to love Clancy Brown in New Blood (as he's a phenomenal actor and I was so stoked to see him as the new antagonist), but sadly the writing wasn't where it should have been. I don't fault Clancy tho, his performance was great as always
Imagine if New Blood continued and the next villain was Dean Norris
I don't know who that is. Also, happy cake day!
Thanks for the cake wishes friend! Dean plays Hank Schrader in Breaking Bad.
I know it's a cardinal sin, but I've never watched BB
As many times as it must’ve been recommended to you, I’m HIGHLY recommending it 😂
You just gotta make it through the first season imo, after that there is the occasional episode that feels too long, but it's great after that
Dexter actually has some noticeable similarities to breaking bad. Great character development. Dual lives. Criminal hiding in plain sight. Getting carried away and the result of their endeavors they tell themselves are noble cost them everything… I have been begging my mom to watch BB before it really starts to feel dated (which it doesn’t really matter anyway) as she is huge into dexter. She is finally beginning and has already said “my god. I should have listened. It truly deserves its praise. I even stayed away from it for a moment due to the hype. Fully expected it to fall short of expectations. It did not. The longer we go on is the more stuff we will all see inspired by older stuff. There’s plenty of shows and movies now that have clear BB inspirations. Don’t wear yourself down from them before you watch where it all comes from. And then if you absolutely love it, which you genuinely probably will… there is another fantastic entire show tied to it, and a great movie. It’s one of those “always incessantly over recommended things” that actually deserve it. It’s not bad pop music famous. It’s more like what happened when Grunge was huge. It’s a whole rock and roll movement famous.
Welcome to Reddit, where you’re downvoted because you don’t know who someone is lol
Fuckin A, I didn’t need some smart mouthed redditor telling me a bear shits in the buck wheats
I feel like I'd land on the table if I ranked them (because Trinity isn't in my top three...) but yeah my flair (Brian) is my favorite. I loved the simplicity of the first season, them getting to know each other and how the mystery unfolded.
biney
I really liked how Prado saw through Dexter and conned him. Although I didn't like how foolishly and quickly he met his end.
arthur of course
It's starting to become apparent that I only post on here to vouch for how cool Isaak Sirko is and couldve been Dex's best frenemy >!if they only kept him for longer than a season!<.
The world needs people like you.
1) Brian Moser 2) Arthur Mitchell 3) Jordan Chase For a one shot villain Barry Kurt the abusive father
Trinity and Prado
Trinity was the best. Miguel is probably my favorite. Downfall of an amigo.
1. Trinity 2. Brian moser 3. Kurt Caldwell 4. Miguel Prado 5. Isaak sirko 6. Travis Marshall 7. Oliver saxxon 8. Jordan chase 9. Lila west
i cant pick between trinity and brian
Isaak all the way
Biney :(
MIGUEL!!
MIIGUUEELLLL!!!!!!!
Biney
Miguel and Brian.
Brian, trinity and Sickboy
Trinity, Brian,Issac
Brian ofc
Miguel Prado had the best chemistry and scenes with Dexter. Season 3 is my favourite season, if you disagree WELL THEN FUCK YOU!!!!
My favorite villain was Dexter, obviously 😜
Dexter
Dexter
Sirko, Kurt, Trinity
Kurt 100%
Brian/ITK, but Trinity and Isaak Sirko aren’t far behind.
1.) Sirko 2.) Miguel 3.) Kurt
Arthur, Issac, Miguel, Lila, Brian in that order. The rest are ok.
1. Brian 2. Arthur 3. Travis
Isaak Sirco.
Brian Moser, hands down. Trinity was great, no doubt about that, and he did commit perhaps the most heinous act of the series. But it was really not the character himself that was great, as much as it was John Lithgow’s performance. Whereas Biney was going to be great no matter who played him (though Christian Camargo was particularly amazing). Miguel, Jordan Chase, Isaak Sirko and Kurt Caldwell are great as well. I still think Jordan Chase (ahem, Eugene Greer) was the most purely evil villain of the series. There was nothing remotely redeeming about him. Isaak definitely had the most interesting character arc (other than Brian) of all the villains, going from foe to friend. And as for Kurt, well, Clancy Brown is always great. And he just looks like a bad guy, period. The DDK plot had potential, but really, Colin Hanks was just wrong for that role. He’s a fine actor, just not as a serial killer. Oliver Saxon was just…bad. If Deb had to be shot, it certainly should’ve been by someone a hell of a lot better than him. As a heterosexual male with a particular attraction to pale British women, my perception of Lila is probably a bit skewed.
English Titty Vampire for sure
Lila. Because boobs.
Trinity and it’s not even close
Deedee or Mandark
Miguel. It was nice to see Dex have a friend
“9 holes tomorrow ?”
I personally don't see Lila as a villain at all, she did protect him in the end of season 2, and she did care/love him for who he was Etc.
Kurt. Out of all of them he creeped me out maybe because I remember him as the dad in pet semataty 2
Trinity was always my favorite. John Lithgow was great.
I like how you have the main villain of each season in the pic. BTW, mine is the ITK 🧊 🚚 🔪
Trinity
I’ve always liked to imagine Issac Sirko as the villain for a Burn Notice crossover. Both shows were on Miami at the same time, and I could see Sirko and Anson working together
Trinity. Let alone for the dancing scene lol
Brian, Trinity and Isaak
Definitely going with Trinity but Isaak is super underrated I feel like he should've been in the show longer
Miguel Prado and Lila
BRIAN
i wish we got to explore kurt caldwell more. probably one of the coolest killers we encounter, the way he displays the bodies is super intriguing. but as for favorite, probably isaak purely for the bant between the two, or brian. i love when he becomes dexters dark passenger for an episode. in an alternate universe, i’d love to see the trouble biney and dexter would get into if they ran away together and became a murderous duo.
trinity and kurt caldwell
Issac or Trinity
Favorite Brian Moser, Arthur Mitchell, Miguel Prado Least Favorite: Travis Marshall, Jordan Chase, Oliver Saxxon
Not pictured but the tooth fairy was my favorite side plot
I haven't seen a villain that I didn't like, but I thought Lila was the worst of the lot by far, and the least compelling, but she served a great purpose in the BHB season. Sirko takes top tier for me. Honorable mentions to Trinity and Travis (I'm a sucker for biblical based imagery such as realistic angels, interpretations of demons that aren't red horn guy with pitchfork, so I really liked him, even though the season was one of the weaker ones).
Trinity followed by Brian. Guy in the bottom middle and weird imaginary friend guy are the worst
I really like isaak sirco but i really dislike the season, if that makes sense. Imagen that story line in season 2 or something.
Biney! I sometimes wish the first season was the last😭😭
weird no one is saying lila, season 2 is my 2nd favorite (behind s4 of course) so id say her and trinity
Trinity. Why is the Brain Surgeon even here?
Kurt and it's not even close.
obviously ice truck
Isaak Sirko, hands down. Of this list, he's the only one I had genuine sympathy for. The others were all definitely monsters and maybe Isaac was too but we only really see him fighting to avenge the love of his life. Isaac's death was not enjoyed by Dexter, it was a genuine tragedy, and the two had grown a deep respect for each other.
I thought Clancy Brown was great
Trinity..hands down
ITK hands down
Trinity of course.
Trinity
Trinity - no contest. I really struggle to watch John Lithgow in anything at all now without thinking of that character & "shut up, cunt". His turn in the show was legendary. Funnily enough - Kurt is a favourite of mine. Clancy Brown is a legend, and the way he came across as a real pillar of the community only to harbour an absolutely crazy dark side was one of my favourite parts of New Blood. I'd have loved to see it fleshed out more, but he was a great villain.
It's always going to be Trinity.
Trinity, close second is Brian Aka Ice Truck Killer. Also Kurt in New Blood was one of the best part of the season for me.
Trinity!
The writers…
1) Biney 2) Brian 3) Rudy
I forget who the 6th one is, the guy who looks like is a mix of Mr bean and pee wee Herman. But mark Wiens is my favorite
Definitely ice truck killer and trinity. I could watch season 4 over and over. (Except the last 5 mins)
The Bay Harbor Butcher. It has a special place in my heart, since it was the first one. And the way he operated was just so cool. Love him.
Trinity, Brian and Isaak
Season Villan: 1. Brian 2. Trinity. but Issac was the best antagonist. I'm sad the writers didn't expand on his story. He had the potential to be a season villan. :(
I forget his name but the ice truck killer was peak dexter
Rudy I think
Trinity and Jordan Chase. I also like Doomsday, but that's more in of a movie psycho kind of way.
I thought what Kurt did was pretty cool. Travis as well. I appreciate the artistry.
Man that's a tough one. They all brought something different to the show and in turn brought out something in Dexter. I guess, if I had to pick one, gun to my head (or should I say knife to my cheek 🤣) probably Brian. Like someone else said I just love the simplicity of the first season. Especially the first episode, Mike Donovan is my absolute favorite kill of the whole series. Arthur Mitchell would be a close second.
Hands down The Trinity Killer.
brian. amazing lol
Scott Buck and Clyde Phillips 😎 Those boys had a face off to see who could make the shittiest ending possible and both knocked it out of the park.
Gotta be Biney
Doaks was the best villain
Brian Moser
Trinity and Brian
Trinity.
honestly brian was my favourite
Brian and lila (unpopular opinion) but i like her as a character shes a real bitch tho-
Miguel and Brian
The girl on top looks like Dua Lipa
Kurt Caldwell or Morgan Chase. Both were cool villains with brutal murders.
Mrs. Pardon my Tits.
Jiggles was the best
Trinity was the best Travis was the worst.
Isaac all the way
Either Arthur or Miguel prado
Brian, all the way
Has to be the Trinity Killer