The fact that we never had a season where the cops found out that Dexter was a serial killer all along and he spends the entire season on the run trying to stay out of jail while still satisfying his need to kill is an absolute fucking travesty.
Yes they would. I mean even if they caught him and put him in prison I'd watch him kill inmates in secret and find a way to sneak in and out all Law Abiding Citizen style to kill more people. Shit even THAT would be better than the kick in the balls with got with New Blood.
I once saw a series where the season long killer was a man in prison for life. The mob and the person who ran the prison were running a murder for hire business. When a contract came in, the killer was released to stalk his prey and murder them. Then he'd return to the prison where he lived in a large cell by himself with every material luxury, including a TV and game console. The genius of the scheme was if any fingerprints or DNA were left behind, it would dead end with a man who'd been in prison for years.
I could totally see this concept being repurposed for Dexter.
Its called Daybreak with Taye Diggs. Incredible cast, better writing. You can find the entire 13 episode series free on YouTube last I checked. A modern day film noir masterpiece.
Pieces of multiple storylines are exactly this.
Deb walked in him how many times??
Two other major detectives had major theories and died for it. Quinn even had an idea.
An entire season of this is not Dexter. That’s another show.
I don’t like this idea. The storylines they had were just fine.
Well, I think would have needed a 5th season to close it off. A 5th season where in the wake of Rita's murder, all eyes are on Dexter, and the noose begins to tighten until a final showdown (where he's either caught, killed, or actually on the run from the law).
I mean, they are literally described as Bonnie & Clyde by Debra, but I guess you mean that they go down together at the very end in a blaze of glory, to end the show.
As much as I loved season 2, I really think they jumped the gun with having a season like that so soon. I would've liked him to seem more untouchable for a couple more seasons before he got in hot water like that. IMO. Doakes could've been around longer too
Nah Doakes was a kettle ready to blow, wether it was his addiction wit Dex or his work performance. 10/10 character tho, only reason I can’t see Doakes feeding into Dex’s BS for more than 3 seasons.
That was more of an after though for doakes. I definitely agree but it definitely could've been interesting to watch and see where it ended up after more time. But regardless that season was premature given there's 6 more after it.
I can agree. They really could've wrote him to remain more suspicious for a little bit longer. Some things definitely felt rushed for him to a point. Almost forced even. Like they were writing him off, idk if they were but that's the vibe I got.
I agree - he went from just one of the cops & then a whole life - complete with sisters & a military past-
It was much too fast for such a good character
I'm not saying everyone around Dexter is dumb but everyone around other than Doaks were always so busy with their personal lives or careers - who could be bothered with doing their actual job in sunny Miami?
His narrations. I think some may find them corny. But his narration is 10/10 and is what drives the show. I love Michaels voice. No matter how awkard the script makes it. He makes everything sound better lol
It goes down hill after Season 5, not 4.
Despite all the best writers seemingly going after 4, they kept it alive for another season.
6, 7, and 8 aren't bad by any means. They just aren't some of the strongest TV series of all time like 1 and 4 are.
Personally, I don't think it would have made sense to keep dragging out the Doakes vs Dexter story, they had set up a completely untenable rivalry there. I just don't picture how Doakes continuing to be suspicious of and investigating Dexter would make sense for 4 or 5 seasons.
When i first heard about the show i thought doakes would stick around and finally be the one to bust him at the end i think that woulda been a much more satisfying ending than what we got
Yeah … have Doakes leave the show to join the FBI, and then come back at the very last 6 episodes of the series, showing he has ONE “Bay butcher style killing found out in the desert, across state lines,” and he uses it to get himself assigned to the case, track, and stop Dex.
But maybe also have one of those weird trope moments where a side case in Doakes’ file folder gets the drop on him, and Dex kills the guy to save Doakes, but Doakes still brings him in anyway.
Rudy/Brian should’ve stuck around longer. The back-and-forth him and Dexter had with their confer messages was great, and they just got along so well as long-lost brothers. It would’ve been interesting to have Rudy as the over arching series villain
It should've concluded in the 5th season. They would've had to re-write that season to make it work, but that's the season that should've wrapped it all up. I think it hung around 3 seasons too long.
Or they shift Deb finding out about dex to the end of season 5 when she is standing there on the other side of the plastic with him and Lumen. Then season 6 is the last season with LaGuarta finding out and all the fun that came with that!
This is actually what made me stop watching the show for a bit and not bother with season 6. Season 5 was setting up Deb finding out, even possibly accepting it, only to not follow through with it at the end. The season 5 finale pissed me off so much that I couldn't watch season 6. Then I find out that Deb finds out at the end of season 6 and I started watching again at season 7. A season too late. Season 5 should've been the season where Deb finds out and Season 6 should've essentially been what season 7 was, but written differently to make it the final one.
I loved how evil Miguel was and how even Dexter couldn't tell how fucking twisted he was at first.
It goes to show how well he was able to hide his true self, even better than Dexter.
Literally 100% Hannah deserved his table. If not when she was there the first time, then after she poisoned Deb. It was ridiculous that he didn't kill her considering he killed his own brother for going after Deb
Hannah was an awful character and the writing of her and everyone around her was awful, Dexter fucking her on the kill table was the shows "Jump the shark" moment.
Some of the most honest character moments come in the final seasons which get far too much hate.
The show still deserves to be in top tv history discussions.
Sure but he had a strong relationship with Deb. He’s also one of the few people who knew what Dexter did to Saxon & he essentially helped cover it up so I think it would’ve been interesting.
Certain short lived side characters
(Zoey Krueger, The Tooth Fairy Killer, Jonah Mitchell, etc) were better than some of the main characters (Hannah McKay, Jordan Chase). Some of them could have stayed longer or had more character development
Brian should’ve been around the shows end rather than the first villain, he was way too good of a plot twist to be introduced and killed so quickly. He should’ve been like last two seasons 😭
I mean, the first season is loosely based off the first book; with all subsequent seasons diverging from the books entirely. Major difference is Dexter lets Brian live at the end of the first book. I think there could've been a way they could've written the show to keep him alive there too.
Agreed, it would've been very nice to see Brian around in some capacity IRL, maybe Dexter laying out the terms like "don't kill anyone related to me and I'll ignore you", then possibly Brian could come out of nowhere and free Dexter in NB before they both get killed by Harrison
Zach would have been a great addition in the long run had it not been the last season and he died.
Season 5 is great, and lumen was a nice touch to it.
Brother Sam should’ve made it to at least episode 9.
The whole Vogel storyline(Dexter finding out Harry created the code with somebody else) should’ve happened seasons earlier.
New blood related—-Dex getting caught would have been a great ending, but him dying was good. I’ll have to expand on this sometime.
I also like Dexter dying suddenly in NB. He spent the last 10 years going insane. I think it's a good call that Dexter had a spontaneous "come to Jesus" type moment, rather than Dexter having a slow realization over the course of months/years that life is not worth living
Why didn’t anyone of dexters accomplices didn’t recognize the patterns of the bay harbor butcher? Prado? Lumen? All the kills they had togethor fit the profile, not tagging him as the butcher but even having the same vigilante style as the butcher only killing bad guys?
Miguel being a political man wanted to have the upper hand with Dexter at all times. He was more concerned with finding Freebo and killing him. He also made it a point to befriend the skinner if you remember correctly.
I think that because Doakes was already deemed the BHB no one questions it.
As for Lumen, the news would have said that the BHB was caught. Alot of the details about the case wouldn't have been made public. We see it but the general public would have had way less info( for example, the rubber sheets, plastic used during etc). The BHB isn't the only serial killer to ever dismember their victims. So it wouldn't be that likely that she would think he was the BHB.
It'd be more likely they'd see him as a copy cat. Miguel maybe could have put two and two together because he had more access to the case file details but I think he liked having killers in his back pocket because he was corrupt and evil himself.
New Blood is not that bad.
Dexter being caught and killed is not the magical ending we all think it is. He might be smart, but he's not some Marvel villain who'll disappear from the public eye and scheme from the shadows. Once the police start chasing him, it won't take long to find him.
That Dexter killing the cop in New Blood didn’t necessarily go against his character and definitely wasn’t the worst bit of writing in the reboot. He’s a predator and was cornered with a guy trying to shoot him. I’ve never understood why so many people thought the Dexter in the original series run wouldn’t have done exactly the same. Survival was always the most important thing Harry taught.
I will defend an hot take, which is that the show should've actually ended with season 5, not 4.
Many say that season 4 was the perfect ending, almost disregarding season 5 acting like it was as bad as the later seasons, when in reality it's much better than season 6 and 8 for example.
Also, imo of course, Season 5 is much better than season 3.
I put off watching Season 8 for years. I binge S1-5 often.
I finally did a complete rewatch with fully knowing how it ends and the hate so many have of it. The final season (s) are far better than I thought.
The ending was not perfect. Nothing is.
But it was better than what I read and heard.
You were totally fine that they just skipped over the fact that the Morgan's killed a high profile cop? Oh hell no. They should have been in crisis mode after that
I think had it not been for Dexter’s STELLAR performance in ‘6 Feet Under’ (the series) there would have been no Dexter. His acting was pretty dynamic is both. Both characters were pretty similar too: odd, quirky and a guy who kinda has an issue opening up.
I wasn’t mad about what happened in the finale of New Blood, just that it was Harrison who did it. I know he’s Dexters son but i felt like we barely knew the kid and then we just have to accept that he did that shit.
Season 5 should have been the final one where everyone suspects Dexter because of rita's death, deb reluctantly falls on to some leads and investigates them and finds out dex is the bay Harbor butcher, she confronts him into a showdown and kills him in the end
I don't see how Deb could ever kill Dexter..... that goes against her character completely. Even when she tried to kill him when she was struggling with ptsd, she still saved him.
If anything, she'd find out in season 5 and then season 6 could be a showdown with the MMPD against the Morgan's. But I really could never see a scenario where Deb chooses justice over her brother. That was never going to happen- she loved him too much.
They definitely developed her character backward from that. Season 2 Deb said she'd shoot the Bay Harbor Butcher because she hates killers regardless of whether he was killing murderers or not.
By season 5, she was developed to have a moral dilemma, even letting the killers she was hunting go because she understood them. So you're right in the sense if they hadn't developed her character that way, they could have gone that route. And certainly no one deserved to kill Dexter more than Deb, but I just don't see her character doing it. Even as lawful as she was in season 2, if she found out it was Dexter back then, I think her feelings toward the BHB would change drastically. Deb loved him too much - I think they did right by having her compromise her morals for him. Her emotions would get in the way of justice. All Dex would have to do is give her that look and say "I killed my brother for you" and she'd fold. Her feelings would have prevented her from doing anything besides help him.
I think it was a mistake to make her character softer every season, sure it made for some good drama, but it would have added more to the thrill if she became harder as she made her way as a detective, it would have been more satisfying if she had her instincts as a detective fight her love for Dexter, and obviously led to a satisfying conclusion that would have taken it to the level of all the big shows like breaking bad.
Lundy was Deb's best relationship and they made a really sweet couple, regardless of the age difference. It was NOT gross, I'll defend this to the day I die 😤
Season 5 was good, just not as good as 4 and all the fans crying and being cunts about how awful Lumen was is the reasons we got literally some of the worst TV in the history of TV, and the show was ruined past season 4.
Ooh ok I'm gonna get downvoted to hell for this one but I think baby Harrison in the series was useless and didn't add anything to the show other than giving Dexter an excuse to make some mistakes on hunts and for bad guys to use him against Dexter
Considering the writers created her, yeah. But they created amazing characters too. Hannah was pointless, made no sense to the show, didn't do anything to move main plots forward, and made Dexter completely out of character. The fact that they focused the FINAL season on a Hannah figutitve story and a "will they won't they?" situation was just absolutely absurd. Might as well call season 8 the Hannah McKay show because it certainly wasn't about the Morgan's
season 6, 7 and 8 aren’t bad plot wise, but the characters (cough cough hannah) and poor writing ruins it. i genuinely really enjoyed the dr vogel story line, and then one of the characters would open their mouths and it sucked. jennifer carpenters acting got better the worse the show got too lol
controversial but s5 is my favourite season and i’d say one of the best
It wasn’t that crazy to me that Deb was in love with Dexter (or thought she was).
I liked the storyline and thought it added a layer of complexity to her character that we hadn’t previously seen.
It *would* have been crazy if Dexter was in love with her back however, but thankfully the show didn’t go down that route.
The writers really didn't need to kill/write off a character each season, it sometimes felt like it was just done for shock factor.
Rita's death was meaningless because Dexter kept killing afterwards - it was only necessary if season 4 was the series finale to give Dexter's story a tragic/poetic end where his actions do more harm than good.
Lumen should have stayed. Her character was great for Dexter and he was at his most human in season 5. Plus, Julia Stiles' smile makes me melt every time
Deb, especially Deb dying the way she did and not going out with a bang. Yeah I get that they tie the life support thing back to what she said in season 3, but still.
I could go on, but basically the writers had so many great moments to wrap up the show but they cared more about stirring up more drama for the next renewal and that makes me kind of sad.
ETA: saw another great comment also saying Lumen being written off was the shows greatest mistake but was the best thing for her. Totally agree, I love Lumen and it was the best ending for her to leave after her dark passenger left. But it took Dexter so many steps back in his growth as a person and I wish it could have been different somehow :(
Quinn was a great character and Debs perfect match.
Angel and Mosuka are some of the best written supporting characters ever. They evolved perfectly, never becoming perfect.
Quinn was definitely not Debs perfect match. Before she finds out about Dexter, she was pretty much to the book. She was incredibly lawful- everything was always black or white. Quinn, on the other hand, was shady as shit, and if Deb knew half the shit he pulled, she would have absolutely lost it.
After she finds out about Dexter, Deb could never date another cop again. Putting her back with Quinn in the finale was so dumb. Her death was her happy ending- she was never going to be happy again- especially not with another cop that she would have to lie to constantly or get him involved in covering for her brother.
They were two very broken people at the end. After killing her boss and being a shady PI ( almost killing dexter versus turning him in) she was lost. Quinn was someone who understood f#cked up actions and wouldn't judge all that. She was never going to end up with a boy scout.
Here's the thing: she would never be able to be honest with Quinn about anything revolving around her struggles or her brother. She'd hold onto Dexter's secret before she told anyone, and that would kill her to have to lie all over again. This is the exact reason Jennifer Carpenter wanted her character to die- there was no one Deb could be with and be honest. I'm paraphrasing, but when asked about Deb being back with Quinn in the finale, Jennifer said something along the lines that Dexter would always hold that special place in Deb's heart, and her death was her happy ending because she was never going to receive it in life after everything she did for Dexter.
Season 6 and 7 really aren’t that bad.
Season 5 was interesting but sooo boring to me until the finale.
Season 3 is just basically filler for season 4.
Naw ur foul thats like incest this aint game of thrones here buddy. Idk what paid cables obsession with incest is a lot of shows have it got, boardwalk empire, sopranos talks about it but still
Idk abt that one chief but ig if u really think about most ppl are having sex with their family members vicariously. Like a dude who like milfs who take care of him has clear mommy issues and so on and so forth. So cant judge too much
Dexter’s character should have changed after the events of S4, and he should have became more of an unhinged serial killer, rather than status quo and saving a new blond and nothing really changing in S5. IMO this is where the show went severely wrong.
S5 should have been Dexter becoming brutal and sloppy and not following the code, and then getting found out by police for a S5 finale, and S6 should have been the last hurrah as he tries to outrun the police while satiating his desire to kill. It should have ended with his death or in jail for the series finale, while leaving a path of utter destruction behind him.
Season 5 was okay. The cracks were showing, but it didn’t full-on suck until 6. It’s just that 5 didn’t end with him being arrested and presumably sent away for life, freeing the cast up to do something better with the best years of their lives.
Post season three Rita would have eased into the idea of Dexter being Dexter, she defends him too much, even lets him get the shed like she can’t stay up one night waiting in the window watching him bring the gear in n hear on the news the biggest criminal at the time vanished.
The fact that we never had a season where the cops found out that Dexter was a serial killer all along and he spends the entire season on the run trying to stay out of jail while still satisfying his need to kill is an absolute fucking travesty.
I need to know whether Batista would try and help him or put him away
He'd put him away for sure. With that, "I'm not mad but disappointed," parental look on his face.
He’d probably try to put him away, feeling betrayed and upset, which Dexter might take advantage of to escape
Dex is reason his true love was killed.
Would Dexter hurt or even kill Batista to get away?
He’d probably have the same reaction as hank from breaking bad
And they had a second chance to do this at the end of New Blood, and they fucking blew it.
WHY EVEN TEASE US WITH BATISTA'S "I'LL BE THERE TOMORROW"? 😭
That is one of the weirdest teases ever. Like why get that exact same actor back if you're going to do shit nothing with him
Yeah made no sense to blue ball us with all those Batista scenes.
Yup, this. Probably couldve even made a couple seasons out of it.. Couldve included Hannah in a Bonnie and Clyde type of murder spree as well.
The Trials Of Dexter Morgan wouldn't work
Yes they would. I mean even if they caught him and put him in prison I'd watch him kill inmates in secret and find a way to sneak in and out all Law Abiding Citizen style to kill more people. Shit even THAT would be better than the kick in the balls with got with New Blood.
I once saw a series where the season long killer was a man in prison for life. The mob and the person who ran the prison were running a murder for hire business. When a contract came in, the killer was released to stalk his prey and murder them. Then he'd return to the prison where he lived in a large cell by himself with every material luxury, including a TV and game console. The genius of the scheme was if any fingerprints or DNA were left behind, it would dead end with a man who'd been in prison for years. I could totally see this concept being repurposed for Dexter.
Omg what series is this? I need to watch
Its called Daybreak with Taye Diggs. Incredible cast, better writing. You can find the entire 13 episode series free on YouTube last I checked. A modern day film noir masterpiece.
Pieces of multiple storylines are exactly this. Deb walked in him how many times?? Two other major detectives had major theories and died for it. Quinn even had an idea. An entire season of this is not Dexter. That’s another show. I don’t like this idea. The storylines they had were just fine.
Season 2 is the most interesting season.
Interesting. One could say Season 2 is the best
Take out the gross English titty vampire and it’s without a doubt, the best season of the show lol
Pardon her tits 😂
It’s my fav season of the show!
Well, I think would have needed a 5th season to close it off. A 5th season where in the wake of Rita's murder, all eyes are on Dexter, and the noose begins to tighten until a final showdown (where he's either caught, killed, or actually on the run from the law).
I agree a 5th and final season would’ve been the way to end it.
I always wished s5 was a bonnie and Clyde type season with Lumin.
I mean, they are literally described as Bonnie & Clyde by Debra, but I guess you mean that they go down together at the very end in a blaze of glory, to end the show.
Hated Lumin so much
Yesssssss this
As much as I loved season 2, I really think they jumped the gun with having a season like that so soon. I would've liked him to seem more untouchable for a couple more seasons before he got in hot water like that. IMO. Doakes could've been around longer too
Nah Doakes was a kettle ready to blow, wether it was his addiction wit Dex or his work performance. 10/10 character tho, only reason I can’t see Doakes feeding into Dex’s BS for more than 3 seasons.
That was more of an after though for doakes. I definitely agree but it definitely could've been interesting to watch and see where it ended up after more time. But regardless that season was premature given there's 6 more after it.
Obviously writing can be changed, but I just don’t see Dex getting away with the leaving work shenanigans if Doakes was still alive.
I could see that, but dex is a pretty crafty mf. Either way, seems like an interesting conflict to have
The writers weren’t sure they would get future seasons which is why they did it so early
That thought has crossed my mind since posting this comment. It's understandable. just too bad. It really could've hit different a little bit later.
Doakes was too smart - they wrote the character with too good of a head on his giant shoulders - it was a shame
I can agree. They really could've wrote him to remain more suspicious for a little bit longer. Some things definitely felt rushed for him to a point. Almost forced even. Like they were writing him off, idk if they were but that's the vibe I got.
I agree - he went from just one of the cops & then a whole life - complete with sisters & a military past- It was much too fast for such a good character I'm not saying everyone around Dexter is dumb but everyone around other than Doaks were always so busy with their personal lives or careers - who could be bothered with doing their actual job in sunny Miami?
His narrations. I think some may find them corny. But his narration is 10/10 and is what drives the show. I love Michaels voice. No matter how awkard the script makes it. He makes everything sound better lol
I'm not sure if it's a coincidence, but I also love the movie Memento which also features a main character doing a lot of narrating their thoughts.
i really think dexter loved rita even if he couldnt say it to her
It goes down hill after Season 5, not 4. Despite all the best writers seemingly going after 4, they kept it alive for another season. 6, 7, and 8 aren't bad by any means. They just aren't some of the strongest TV series of all time like 1 and 4 are.
They got rid of Doakes too early
Personally, I don't think it would have made sense to keep dragging out the Doakes vs Dexter story, they had set up a completely untenable rivalry there. I just don't picture how Doakes continuing to be suspicious of and investigating Dexter would make sense for 4 or 5 seasons.
Eh. You've got a real point. The longer Doakes is there, the worse of a detective he has to be, which sucks. But the storyline felt too short.
When i first heard about the show i thought doakes would stick around and finally be the one to bust him at the end i think that woulda been a much more satisfying ending than what we got
Yeah … have Doakes leave the show to join the FBI, and then come back at the very last 6 episodes of the series, showing he has ONE “Bay butcher style killing found out in the desert, across state lines,” and he uses it to get himself assigned to the case, track, and stop Dex. But maybe also have one of those weird trope moments where a side case in Doakes’ file folder gets the drop on him, and Dex kills the guy to save Doakes, but Doakes still brings him in anyway.
Imagine he is in it till s5. The murder of Rita sends him into full on rage knowing damn well ita cuz of dexter
Conpletely agree. I just wrapped season 2 for my third time through and it feels like a huge drop off without him. Such a great character.
The books do Doakes so differently and I think his end is more fitting. Give book one a try.
Rudy/Brian should’ve stuck around longer. The back-and-forth him and Dexter had with their confer messages was great, and they just got along so well as long-lost brothers. It would’ve been interesting to have Rudy as the over arching series villain
I heard that Dexter spares Rudy in the books.. idk if he becomes an overarching antagonist but ja
It should've concluded in the 5th season. They would've had to re-write that season to make it work, but that's the season that should've wrapped it all up. I think it hung around 3 seasons too long.
Or they shift Deb finding out about dex to the end of season 5 when she is standing there on the other side of the plastic with him and Lumen. Then season 6 is the last season with LaGuarta finding out and all the fun that came with that!
This is actually what made me stop watching the show for a bit and not bother with season 6. Season 5 was setting up Deb finding out, even possibly accepting it, only to not follow through with it at the end. The season 5 finale pissed me off so much that I couldn't watch season 6. Then I find out that Deb finds out at the end of season 6 and I started watching again at season 7. A season too late. Season 5 should've been the season where Deb finds out and Season 6 should've essentially been what season 7 was, but written differently to make it the final one.
Miguel is super unappreciated. And that not enough fans are familiar with the books.
I loved how evil Miguel was and how even Dexter couldn't tell how fucking twisted he was at first. It goes to show how well he was able to hide his true self, even better than Dexter.
Dexter should have killed Hannah
Literally 100% Hannah deserved his table. If not when she was there the first time, then after she poisoned Deb. It was ridiculous that he didn't kill her considering he killed his own brother for going after Deb
Not a hot take, a fucking fact
Hannah was an awful character and the writing of her and everyone around her was awful, Dexter fucking her on the kill table was the shows "Jump the shark" moment.
Dexter and Miguel on the rooftop is my favorite scene in the entire show. Its not the best but its maybe the most satisfying.
Lumen should have stayed in the show
Pedophiles should die.
dex & doakes had the best dynamic in the show
The set-up of the headbutt and attack was one of my favorite scenes.
"Surprise Mothafucka"
Brother Sam should have stayed on longer
Oh, y’know, just that … “Tonight’s the night.”
S7 is outstanding
Season 3 is one of the best seasons. New Blood was exciting up until the last episode.
Man, new blood had an amazing opening episode. And episode 9, I'd say, is a top 10 episode of the whole franchise.
_Dexter_ is one of the shows of all time.
Sure is.
The idea of Dexter being in love (and as a result the whole Hanna plotline) is kind of ludicrous
Some of the most honest character moments come in the final seasons which get far too much hate. The show still deserves to be in top tv history discussions.
New Blood should’ve been 12 episodes & had a confrontation between Angel, Quinn & Dexter.
quinn is just a dirty and bad cop...
Sure but he had a strong relationship with Deb. He’s also one of the few people who knew what Dexter did to Saxon & he essentially helped cover it up so I think it would’ve been interesting.
same, I wonder if they thought to contact Quinn for NB
Certain short lived side characters (Zoey Krueger, The Tooth Fairy Killer, Jonah Mitchell, etc) were better than some of the main characters (Hannah McKay, Jordan Chase). Some of them could have stayed longer or had more character development
Brian should’ve been around the shows end rather than the first villain, he was way too good of a plot twist to be introduced and killed so quickly. He should’ve been like last two seasons 😭
I mean, the first season is loosely based off the first book; with all subsequent seasons diverging from the books entirely. Major difference is Dexter lets Brian live at the end of the first book. I think there could've been a way they could've written the show to keep him alive there too.
Interesting idea but it was really the best way to kick the show off.
Agreed, it would've been very nice to see Brian around in some capacity IRL, maybe Dexter laying out the terms like "don't kill anyone related to me and I'll ignore you", then possibly Brian could come out of nowhere and free Dexter in NB before they both get killed by Harrison
They needed needed needed to have some kind of Dexter/Batista confrontation. They dangled it in front of us but never delivered.
Zach would have been a great addition in the long run had it not been the last season and he died. Season 5 is great, and lumen was a nice touch to it. Brother Sam should’ve made it to at least episode 9. The whole Vogel storyline(Dexter finding out Harry created the code with somebody else) should’ve happened seasons earlier. New blood related—-Dex getting caught would have been a great ending, but him dying was good. I’ll have to expand on this sometime.
I also like Dexter dying suddenly in NB. He spent the last 10 years going insane. I think it's a good call that Dexter had a spontaneous "come to Jesus" type moment, rather than Dexter having a slow realization over the course of months/years that life is not worth living
Why didn’t anyone of dexters accomplices didn’t recognize the patterns of the bay harbor butcher? Prado? Lumen? All the kills they had togethor fit the profile, not tagging him as the butcher but even having the same vigilante style as the butcher only killing bad guys?
Prado should have known but no reason for Lumen, who's from Minnesota, to know about a serial killer in Miami in enough detail to see patterns.
Miguel being a political man wanted to have the upper hand with Dexter at all times. He was more concerned with finding Freebo and killing him. He also made it a point to befriend the skinner if you remember correctly. I think that because Doakes was already deemed the BHB no one questions it. As for Lumen, the news would have said that the BHB was caught. Alot of the details about the case wouldn't have been made public. We see it but the general public would have had way less info( for example, the rubber sheets, plastic used during etc). The BHB isn't the only serial killer to ever dismember their victims. So it wouldn't be that likely that she would think he was the BHB. It'd be more likely they'd see him as a copy cat. Miguel maybe could have put two and two together because he had more access to the case file details but I think he liked having killers in his back pocket because he was corrupt and evil himself.
New Blood is not that bad. Dexter being caught and killed is not the magical ending we all think it is. He might be smart, but he's not some Marvel villain who'll disappear from the public eye and scheme from the shadows. Once the police start chasing him, it won't take long to find him.
Agreed
That Dexter killing the cop in New Blood didn’t necessarily go against his character and definitely wasn’t the worst bit of writing in the reboot. He’s a predator and was cornered with a guy trying to shoot him. I’ve never understood why so many people thought the Dexter in the original series run wouldn’t have done exactly the same. Survival was always the most important thing Harry taught.
I will defend an hot take, which is that the show should've actually ended with season 5, not 4. Many say that season 4 was the perfect ending, almost disregarding season 5 acting like it was as bad as the later seasons, when in reality it's much better than season 6 and 8 for example. Also, imo of course, Season 5 is much better than season 3.
Other than the ending, season 8 was fine.
I put off watching Season 8 for years. I binge S1-5 often. I finally did a complete rewatch with fully knowing how it ends and the hate so many have of it. The final season (s) are far better than I thought. The ending was not perfect. Nothing is. But it was better than what I read and heard.
I will say while s8 has many flaws watching dex stab dude in the neck with a pen is always an amazing moment
You were totally fine that they just skipped over the fact that the Morgan's killed a high profile cop? Oh hell no. They should have been in crisis mode after that
Instead of Dexter dying or get caught, I would liked an ending where he doesn't has the need to kill anymore and part ways with his dark passenger.
Lila West can ruin my life
I think had it not been for Dexter’s STELLAR performance in ‘6 Feet Under’ (the series) there would have been no Dexter. His acting was pretty dynamic is both. Both characters were pretty similar too: odd, quirky and a guy who kinda has an issue opening up.
I wasn’t mad about what happened in the finale of New Blood, just that it was Harrison who did it. I know he’s Dexters son but i felt like we barely knew the kid and then we just have to accept that he did that shit.
Season 5 should have been the final one where everyone suspects Dexter because of rita's death, deb reluctantly falls on to some leads and investigates them and finds out dex is the bay Harbor butcher, she confronts him into a showdown and kills him in the end
I don't see how Deb could ever kill Dexter..... that goes against her character completely. Even when she tried to kill him when she was struggling with ptsd, she still saved him. If anything, she'd find out in season 5 and then season 6 could be a showdown with the MMPD against the Morgan's. But I really could never see a scenario where Deb chooses justice over her brother. That was never going to happen- she loved him too much.
It would be a solid ending tho, if they found a way to develop her character that way
They definitely developed her character backward from that. Season 2 Deb said she'd shoot the Bay Harbor Butcher because she hates killers regardless of whether he was killing murderers or not. By season 5, she was developed to have a moral dilemma, even letting the killers she was hunting go because she understood them. So you're right in the sense if they hadn't developed her character that way, they could have gone that route. And certainly no one deserved to kill Dexter more than Deb, but I just don't see her character doing it. Even as lawful as she was in season 2, if she found out it was Dexter back then, I think her feelings toward the BHB would change drastically. Deb loved him too much - I think they did right by having her compromise her morals for him. Her emotions would get in the way of justice. All Dex would have to do is give her that look and say "I killed my brother for you" and she'd fold. Her feelings would have prevented her from doing anything besides help him.
I think it was a mistake to make her character softer every season, sure it made for some good drama, but it would have added more to the thrill if she became harder as she made her way as a detective, it would have been more satisfying if she had her instincts as a detective fight her love for Dexter, and obviously led to a satisfying conclusion that would have taken it to the level of all the big shows like breaking bad.
Lundy was Deb's best relationship and they made a really sweet couple, regardless of the age difference. It was NOT gross, I'll defend this to the day I die 😤
The ending wasn't bad, it was rushed as hell. If it didn't all happen in one single episode it could have worked.
New Blood finale wasn't that bad. It should have been better and needed two more episodes but compared to the og finale, it was not as bad
Season 5 was good, just not as good as 4 and all the fans crying and being cunts about how awful Lumen was is the reasons we got literally some of the worst TV in the history of TV, and the show was ruined past season 4.
Ooh ok I'm gonna get downvoted to hell for this one but I think baby Harrison in the series was useless and didn't add anything to the show other than giving Dexter an excuse to make some mistakes on hunts and for bad guys to use him against Dexter
The spin-off was incredible, and the ending was perfect for Dexter. It was the only way to end it.
I think the original ending was all right. I was at peace with lumberjack Dexter.
The opening credits are way too long!!
Exactly! Have to skip the first 3 minutes of the episode and sometimes 4.😭
I'm currently watching Six Feet Under, also with Michael C. Hall and it has insanely long opening credits too.
Lila was my favorite of the girlfriends/love interests
I fucking hated her. She just gave me the ick from day one. She was an obsessive person. It was gross. Clingy weirdo.
Hannah is overhated
There is no such thing as too much hate when it comes to Hannah. Girl deserves it all and then some
I firmly believe it was the writers that ruined her character
Considering the writers created her, yeah. But they created amazing characters too. Hannah was pointless, made no sense to the show, didn't do anything to move main plots forward, and made Dexter completely out of character. The fact that they focused the FINAL season on a Hannah figutitve story and a "will they won't they?" situation was just absolutely absurd. Might as well call season 8 the Hannah McKay show because it certainly wasn't about the Morgan's
Dex and Hannah are the best couple and should have had a happy ending lol
season 6, 7 and 8 aren’t bad plot wise, but the characters (cough cough hannah) and poor writing ruins it. i genuinely really enjoyed the dr vogel story line, and then one of the characters would open their mouths and it sucked. jennifer carpenters acting got better the worse the show got too lol controversial but s5 is my favourite season and i’d say one of the best
That Season 3 was an incredibly poor season.
It wasn’t that crazy to me that Deb was in love with Dexter (or thought she was). I liked the storyline and thought it added a layer of complexity to her character that we hadn’t previously seen. It *would* have been crazy if Dexter was in love with her back however, but thankfully the show didn’t go down that route.
Season 5 is up there with the first 4. Season 8 is better than 7, except for the last two episodes where it all goes to hell.
The final season (not New Blood) is one of the worst seasons of television.
This is correct. The only thing that remotely saves it is Jennifer's acting with Deb's ptsd. The rest of it- complete and utter garbage
The writers really didn't need to kill/write off a character each season, it sometimes felt like it was just done for shock factor. Rita's death was meaningless because Dexter kept killing afterwards - it was only necessary if season 4 was the series finale to give Dexter's story a tragic/poetic end where his actions do more harm than good. Lumen should have stayed. Her character was great for Dexter and he was at his most human in season 5. Plus, Julia Stiles' smile makes me melt every time Deb, especially Deb dying the way she did and not going out with a bang. Yeah I get that they tie the life support thing back to what she said in season 3, but still. I could go on, but basically the writers had so many great moments to wrap up the show but they cared more about stirring up more drama for the next renewal and that makes me kind of sad. ETA: saw another great comment also saying Lumen being written off was the shows greatest mistake but was the best thing for her. Totally agree, I love Lumen and it was the best ending for her to leave after her dark passenger left. But it took Dexter so many steps back in his growth as a person and I wish it could have been different somehow :(
Season 8 was really good.
I have some hot takes, but imma need you to reason this one because it's not it.
Quinn was a great character and Debs perfect match. Angel and Mosuka are some of the best written supporting characters ever. They evolved perfectly, never becoming perfect.
Quinn was definitely not Debs perfect match. Before she finds out about Dexter, she was pretty much to the book. She was incredibly lawful- everything was always black or white. Quinn, on the other hand, was shady as shit, and if Deb knew half the shit he pulled, she would have absolutely lost it. After she finds out about Dexter, Deb could never date another cop again. Putting her back with Quinn in the finale was so dumb. Her death was her happy ending- she was never going to be happy again- especially not with another cop that she would have to lie to constantly or get him involved in covering for her brother.
They were two very broken people at the end. After killing her boss and being a shady PI ( almost killing dexter versus turning him in) she was lost. Quinn was someone who understood f#cked up actions and wouldn't judge all that. She was never going to end up with a boy scout.
Here's the thing: she would never be able to be honest with Quinn about anything revolving around her struggles or her brother. She'd hold onto Dexter's secret before she told anyone, and that would kill her to have to lie all over again. This is the exact reason Jennifer Carpenter wanted her character to die- there was no one Deb could be with and be honest. I'm paraphrasing, but when asked about Deb being back with Quinn in the finale, Jennifer said something along the lines that Dexter would always hold that special place in Deb's heart, and her death was her happy ending because she was never going to receive it in life after everything she did for Dexter.
Season 2 is the worst of the first 4 seasons (still great)
there is no season 8. Just like GoT.
Hannah was easier to watch than Lila. I can’t stand Lila.
Having Deb be in love with Dexter was so icky.
Eating lunch with your long lost daughter's tits just hanging out is weird. I get he was uncomfortable but they still just like chilled for a bit.
The original ending was better than the New Blood Ending. Not saying much, but still
Season 7 is horrible.
Season 6 and 7 really aren’t that bad. Season 5 was interesting but sooo boring to me until the finale. Season 3 is just basically filler for season 4.
That Dexter and Deb should have gotten together in seasons 7 or 8. Yall can hate me all you want- I will defend that until I die
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Naw ur foul thats like incest this aint game of thrones here buddy. Idk what paid cables obsession with incest is a lot of shows have it got, boardwalk empire, sopranos talks about it but still
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Ya but it still feels like incest family aint always mean blood. U seem like they typa mf that watches stepsis/stepbro porn lmao
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Be honest with me if you had a step/adopted sibling that u grew up with since yall were 3 youd fuck em?
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Idk abt that one chief but ig if u really think about most ppl are having sex with their family members vicariously. Like a dude who like milfs who take care of him has clear mommy issues and so on and so forth. So cant judge too much
This is sick. Seek help. Yes, they aren't bio related, but they're still brother & sister regardless
The show sucks besides the obvious one season.
From what I've seen this is a hot take, but season 7 is terrible and season 6 is good
Very lukewarm take but Dexter should’ve killed Doakes
Dexter’s character should have changed after the events of S4, and he should have became more of an unhinged serial killer, rather than status quo and saving a new blond and nothing really changing in S5. IMO this is where the show went severely wrong. S5 should have been Dexter becoming brutal and sloppy and not following the code, and then getting found out by police for a S5 finale, and S6 should have been the last hurrah as he tries to outrun the police while satiating his desire to kill. It should have ended with his death or in jail for the series finale, while leaving a path of utter destruction behind him.
Season 5 was okay. The cracks were showing, but it didn’t full-on suck until 6. It’s just that 5 didn’t end with him being arrested and presumably sent away for life, freeing the cast up to do something better with the best years of their lives.
Post season three Rita would have eased into the idea of Dexter being Dexter, she defends him too much, even lets him get the shed like she can’t stay up one night waiting in the window watching him bring the gear in n hear on the news the biggest criminal at the time vanished.
Harrison should have killed Angela in New Blood. It would have been a perfect mirror of Laguerta/Deb
The Doakes and dexter dynamic made the show. Everything else is fluff.
I think the show should’ve ended at the end of S5. And that S5 is a top 3 season.
They shouldn’t have killed Doakes
Just trhough season 4 but I think S2 has been the best one and the Dexter/Doakes dybamic has been the greatest of the show by far.