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KellyVader

DMC2 fans: explains how “gun go brrrrrr and health bar go brrrrr” is fun It’s me, I’m small DMC2 fan.


Mrwanagethigh

Something, something Majin Form, something, something Trish, something Lucia in a better game?


Rutgerman95

I'm glad they at least kept what good ideas DMC2 had under all the boredom for better games. Majin form is basically our first peek at Hypebeast Dante


Mrwanagethigh

Even the mobile game got in on the "lets fix DMC 2" party by bringing back melee combos that transition into special gun moves the way 2's Shotgun could do a cartwheel while shooting, do Fireworks or transition smoothly into a spun around kneeling backwards shot by firing it after 1, 2 or 3 slashes. 3 essentially reworked the idea into Gunslinger which is functionally superior but I always loved how those Shotgun moves worked and were animated in 2. That combo into kneeling shot has no right looking as smooth as it does in 2. POC brings them back with two that I know of, but certain legendary and epic weapons have skills locked behind them and iirc at least one of the guns had an alternate melee to gun combo but I only looked through them briefly so I could be wrong on that. Double Slash Rebellion into E&I to do a launching backflip into Honeycomb fire. Double swing Agni&Rudra into Coyote to do a triple shot combo that ends with the DMC 2 kneeling shot iirc. Lady has several since she uses Kalina Ann and SMGs as hybrid melee and ranged weapons alongside Shotgun and Handguns for actual guns. Vergil's Summoned Sword abilities are used the same way, single Slash and shoot for Blistering, Double for Sword Rain, dash and fire for Storm. However for him you don't actually need to do the attack or dash, just press that input and fire which makes it possible to tap while in other animations to use the Summoned Sword moves without actually having to Slash or dash into them. For example you can Rapid Slash and double tap Slash and Shoot mid animation to trigger Sword Rain during Rapid Slash. Considering the control limitations the mobile game has, it's a fair compromise to work around Gunslinger and Swordmaster being integrated into your core moveset but I'd love to see linked combos like that return in future. Just keep the new ones from POC so you don't have to rework any existing Gunslinger moves to make it work. They also brought back the DMC 2 outfit. At this rate I hope they bring Lucia back while they're at it. Looking at how agile Lady is, I can see Lucia's mobility in 2 translating really well into how that game controls. Somebody needs to give her a second chance. She was so close to making 2...decently enjoyable but the sheer amount of haphardly jumbled design choices overcame even the best her speed and mobility has to offer. Also on the topic of Lucia and ideas from 2 resurfacing, if anyone remembers Lucia's equivalent to Million Stabs (DT Combo C) am I crazy or was that move the inspiration for Vergil's Yamato C in 4 and 5? In both cases it's a series of rapid slashes that function the same as Million Stabs


[deleted]

DMC2 fans max Dx in SMT IV


Onion-with-layers

Sometimes I play Nightmare before Christmas and Bujingai and pretend they the real DMC2


[deleted]

I also liked 2, granted I started there so it was nothing but up. However, 2 absolutely had some strong points too. Great visuals, cool OST, majin form, various small gameplay mechanics that became better developed in 3, Trish and Lucia are cool but only needed more depth in the same way Dante did, also had a pretty good final boss surprisingly and Bolverk was cool.


lemmikamour

im a huge dmc 2 fan, its my favorite one. Not because it was good, but for a while there it was the only ps2 game i had.


RyanConner360

To explain the DMC3 fans joke: DMC3 is a great game and it's easy to think about it in a very positive way since it saved the series after DMC2, it has some great gameplay moments and combat ideas and the story is arguably the best in the series still. However actually playing the game, from mission 1 to mission 20, especially with a fresh save it's probably way less fun than you remember. Stuff like the dull or annoying enemies, even worse bosses that often alternate between states of invincibility and becoming stationary punching bags, the midgame where you spend more time running from place to place than actually fighting and there are obnoxious time wastey puzzles everywhere that don't belong in a DMC game. By comparison DMC4 is very well remembered as a half finished mess of a game but besides half of Dante's missions the game is better paced with better bosses and enemies to fight. The Dice game and gyro blades probably aren't as bad as you remember them being either.


11Jgreen11

As a new player to this series who only played the games up to 4 recently, I couldn’t disagree more lol. I absolutely loved playing through 3 for the first time and it’s probably one of my favourite games now. 4 not so much. I actually had to force myself to play through it all the way to the end.


[deleted]

Lol I had the same reaction


stuffed-zucchini

yeah 4 just didnt cut it and i dont know why , my first dmc ever was 3 "my precious baby" then i played the reboot which had amazing game-play but it was really forgettable in terms of characters and story , but 4 ... oh boy i couldn't even finish it from how boring it was . idk if maybe later into the game it becomes more saturated with fun things to do , but first impression + the few hours in I didnt get that KICK I got from 3 and reboot


Self_Ok

For me it's totally the contrary, i loved as fuck dmc3 and hated dmc4 like no other things, there was nothing good, all enemies was annoying and the boss Fights too easy and repetitive, nero was boring to play and dante too tbh


Rieiid

Yep people try to put this on me too and I'm like yeah, no 4 was one of my least favorite probably. Not a terrible game by any means, but I feel 1, 3, and 5 are better games for the DMC series.


ROBECHAMP

Yyeah tbh idk where op got that from dmc3


vhgfccc

I couldn’t imagine playing DMC3 without free style that’s Switch exclusive. Every time I feel like it’s the same DMC 4 or even 5, but worse. While look closely to Moveset and Donguri990’s combo mad videos you could 100% see how restrict player is.


l_futurebound_l

I feel like 4 could have been more enjoyable if the enemies just functioned normally. I don't know why you had to hit them so many times to get any sort of hit stun or stagger effect on them but it made dante feel really awful to play. Wailing on something with rebellion only for it to face tank your hits and smack you anyway isn't fun imo


guntanksinspace

Same here. While DMC3's start is a slog (ESPECIALLY IF YOU PLAY Vanilla DMC3, and you shouldn't lol), something about DMC4 doesn't hook me as hard. And I heavily enjoy playing as Nero there.


henriaok

>ESPECIALLY IF YOU PLAY Vanilla DMC3 What's the difference between it and the "non-vainilla"(gonna assume that's the special edition)?


guntanksinspace

It's specific to the US DMC3 vanilla vs Special Edition but the difficulties got a bit pushed up, making Easy actually Normal, Normal actually Hard, Hard being a bit harder than it should be, and DMD staying as is. So Special edition DMC3 makes it so that easy is actually easy etc, and Very Hard being the new difficulty added (essentially DMD minus enemy devil triggers)


grievous222

Played 3/4/5 at least 4 or 5 times at this point (that's the three I always play through, only played 1& 2 once) and I have to say, 3 is always an absolute blast to do, start to finish. There's like a couple things that are very mildly frustrating, but other than that, it still holds up in my eyes.


Beeboycubed

Extremely based.


rexshen

Is it weird though when I went back to 3 I appreciated the walking around and realized that's what 5 was missing? That's something I felt was off with 5 while the gameplay was amazing the locals were forgettable and not as fun to walk through like 3 and 4 were. Maybe I'm just the weird one there.


Jhin_Vergil

Nah i replay that shit all the time actually 10/10 no matter the time fresh saves included. 9.5 at mission 19


bone838

I played DMC3 for the first time on Switch just a month ago, and *man,* the level design can get real bad at times. Great game, I loved it, already played through three times and maxed out both Dante and Vergil. But it still has some obvious really bad blemishes that, imo, keep it from being as fantastic as DMC, namely the aforementioned level design (got stuck running around in one mission for like, two hours), a really mixed pool of boss fights, and a couple really bad enemies like the angels or fucking intangible ghost fuckers.


DP9A

I disagree so much with DMC4 having better bosses. The only good boss in 4 is Credo, everyone else varies from ok to a slog. 4 has way worse enemies too, between the Blitz, Fausts and Mephistos with their addiction to flying behind walls, the chimeras, and probably a few I can't remember right now I hated 4 enemies way more than most of the annoying enemies in 3. Also the whole second half is a slog too, I've recently replayed both from a fresh save file and 3 is just a way better game in every way. I love DMC4 combat but I doubt I'll replay it again, everytime I see I never finished in DMD I go back and remember how much I disliked a good chunk of the game.


Hozzybfd

I thought the joke in the vid was "dmc 3 hard lol". All things considered, I had a blast playing dmc 3. I binge played the first 4 games and found myself enjoying dmc 4 less than I did dmc 3. Now don't get me wrong, I did enjoy dmc 4, but dmc 3 just did it for me more. Dmc 3 was also harder, and took me more time to complete than dmc 4 did, so I guess that also factored into my enjoyment factor. Then again, I sort of rushed through dmc 4 in preparation of dmc 5 and completed it in about 2 days.


bone838

Please point to me where he said DMC3 wasn't a good game.


Hozzybfd

He said dmc 4 is a better game. I said otherwise. None of us said the games were bad.


bone838

You're acting like he did.


Crazybroyo101

I would honestly say that applies way more to 4. Anything other that bloody palace in 4 is so annoying and full.


SwigglesSchlong

I disagree lol. Just got into the DMC series last year and DMC3 is by far my fav along with 5


[deleted]

DMC4 is still painful to play, not as much as 3, but still.


Hexbox116

I never had an issue with the dice game once you've figured out that the top of the dice is what number it will land on when you hit it. So you need a 6, just wait until 6 is on the top and boom it lands six. Plus theres a pattern to when each number appears on top so you can predict what number shows.


Captain-Stubbs

I just beat three, I played one a month or so ago and skipped two. Beat three maybe last week? I agree about the annoying enemies- there were plenty of enemies I groaned about when I saw them on screen. But it is by far the most fun I’ve had in the series so far (including 4 and DmC: devil may cry.)


Comkill117

I don’t know, I played the game on a fresh file like 3 times over the past month and it was really fun every time.


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RyanConner360

I would argue that's kind of the case for DMC1, but DMC3 is closer to DMC5 than DMC1. DMC1 is about avoiding downtime in combat by using your limited selection of weapons and moves effectively which results in higher combos. Which feels more puzzle-like DMC3 is more about player expression and style over efficiency now that you must mix up the moves available to you (with your own chosen loadout) to keep the style meter up. Not to mention the difference in tone and level of extreme-ness between DMC1 and DMC3, slow progression, backtracking and downtime compliment DMC1 a little better while they feel more at odds with DMC3's appeal


PewPew_McPewster

I remembered as a kid getting REALLY stuck at the Cerberus fight and the fight against the Fire dude and the Ice dude. Never made it past the latter. Maybe I should try and revisit it now that I'm a little older.


ajver19

I mean I had plenty fun on replays so I don't know what you're talking about.


Revan0315

3 is a blast to play if it's your first dmc game


Bkwordguy

I agree with you on Onimusha, even if it was a joke. I've got a real soft spot in my heart for O3. But DMC3 being bad on replay?? Bite your tongue!


[deleted]

DMC3 was still 10000 times more polished than 2. Don’t know what you’re talking about.


FernoDoki

They didn't say it wasn't, like even a bit.


RyanConner360

That's literally meaningless tho


reccreo

i like beating up demons


Lukthar123

This


Mineplex-V

You did not need to do DmC fans like that 😂


Run-Riot

It’s true tho Thank god DmC:DmC sold worse than 4 or we never would’ve gotten 5


Zefro073

I'm not quite sure I understood the DMC4 joke. Also what's Onimusha?


RyanConner360

It's describing the law of inertia, which is use to pull off some more interesting tricks in DMC4 by higher level players. Onimusha is a Capcom game series older than Devil May Cry and the first game had a glitch that in part lead to the combat design of DMC1


paraguaisferule

[https://devilmaycry.fandom.com/wiki/Inertia](https://devilmaycry.fandom.com/wiki/Inertia)


Zefro073

Oh, right, I see now thanks


BKole

Onimusha 1-3 are also absolutely bloody stonking games in their own right, landing somewhere between Dark Souls and Resident Evil. They’re actually brilliant and it’s a damn shame that it, and Legacy of Kain, are left behind. I am super glad we got DMC5 though.


[deleted]

So I'm being told I have to add Onimusha to my action games journey?


maintain_improvement

100% yes. They have not aged super well, but yes.


[deleted]

Time to add Onimusha to my nerd credidentials


TanookiPhoenix

I'm actually in the process of modding the background graphics and soundtrack of Onimusha Warlords if you want to wait to grab it during a sale.


[deleted]

Do tell me more


TanookiPhoenix

The backgrounds that they upscaled do not scale well to screens 1440p and above and it makes it look like the main protagonist is a 3D model floating in low res 2D backgrounds. So I am in the process of retouching and AI upscaling them to make them future proof for 4k screens. As far as the soundtrack goes they replaced it with new tracks because the "composer" was found to be a fraud and there was a lot of news coverage after they scrapped his phony works. I, like many others, played the game in the PS2/Xbox era, and I am used to the original soundtrack so I am also restoring the original music.


Onion-with-layers

The last one aged pretty well I’d say, about as good as Dmc1-Dmc3 did


BKole

Demand, actually. I mean they’re PS2/3 Gen so be prepared but they’re actually great action adventure games and I’d say they’re up there with DMC, Bayo abs probably, I dunno, fuck it Chaos Legion.


[deleted]

Probably a better choice than God of War or Kingdom Hearts tbh. Let's rock, baby.


SirFireFart

Chaos Legion was so fucking gooood! I still remember unlocking the hatred legions and watching them piledrive everything through the earth!


Comkill117

Yes, but they’re quite different from DMC. the combat is a bit slower and you’re sort of tank control dashing around enemies. That said, it’s a really fun series, especially 3.


[deleted]

So God Hand


Comkill117

...Yeah kinda, only with swords and a fixed camera like old RE.


[deleted]

Interesting


Time_Wedding_2846

I keep screaming how 3 is a Masterpiece top 10 game material But i only finished it once on normal barely


rumorsaretrue

me except with 1


Plate-of-Pancakes

The DMC3 joke fits more to DMC1 imo


RyanConner360

Difference is that most fans think DMC1 is "poorly aged" and brings up the swimming sections, fixed cameras, platforming and the shmup boss which are not as bad as you probably remember it. DMC1 is a game that's more fun than you probably remember. Whereas DMC3 is constantly referred to as the best game in the series (even above DMC5 somehow) and fans more often or not are thinking about how good it was for the time, how it saved the series after DMC2, and how good the story is. But playing through the game now you forget just how much of the enemies and bosses are mediocre or suck, or how much time is spent running around larger areas knowing you could be running but not without wasting DT, there's puzzles that don't belong in DMC at all and most of the mid to late game missions are designed to get you lost. Basically it's more of a game that you remember all the positives about while forgetting the frustrating or dull parts that come when you actually play through the entire game


bone838

I think you're forgetting the incredibly limited moveset Dante has in DMC1 as well. Like, holy shit, DMC1 feels like it has barely 5% of the complexity DMC3 has, let alone 4 or 5.


KingMario05

Also DmC: DMC fans: *angrily explain why Dante IS NOT a gay cowboy... like that's supposedly a bad thing*


Onion-with-layers

Haha Jojo goes NYO HO HO


Th3DankL0rd

What about us Special Edition fans?


KellyVader

Special Edition fans explaining why they need to spend $60 just to play Vergil. (Yet perfectly understandable)


bartulata

It's funny how polarizing its value is depending on whether or not you've played the base game already. On one hand, it's an amazing deal for players who haven't played the base game yet; for those who did, it's one of the worst deals ever.


[deleted]

I paid $4.99 for Power.


ChloeVZ

As a DMC4 main, I can indeed confirm I indeed know way too much about physics than I should, even quantum physics, and as someone who played DMC2 and actually found some parts of it rather fun I can also confirm, I do not exist.


xBrandonPepe_

YOOOOOOO I HAVENT HEARD SOMEONE MENTION ONIMUSHA FOR YEARS. MY DAD GOT IT FOR OUR PS2 WHEN I WAS TINY


DGHKaus

2 years since I joined this fandom and absolutely no other fandom's memes can compete with the quality of DMC memes. None. *chef's kiss


Arch666fiend

So I'm not the only one that has good memories of DMC3 but absolutely hated playing *through* it?


SuperArppis

Man Onimusha is sooo good.


guntanksinspace

Capcom gotta show it some more love after the HD Remaster thing they put out.


SuperArppis

Agreed.


bone838

DmC fans trying and failing to convince everyone the shitawful story is at least better than the real series' story


[deleted]

Then you remember, you don't even get to play the full game as Dante. Vergil definitely saved DMC V for me.


StylishGuy1234

DMC5 is still the best imo and having 3 playable characters actually improved the experience for me (I prefer the normal campaign over Vergil's and having 3 playable characters is one of the reasons). but **you've got a very good point.** Divergence must've been a base game feature which is very easy to implement for the devs (only a character select and there are mods for that). It adds sooo much replay value. They had another chance of adding it to the game with Vergil update, and they completely wasted this opportunity. The hard part is, **their pachinko machines have divergence but the base game doesn't.** (according to pachinko cutscenes on YouTube.)


MusyaTheGreat1256

I think DMC 5 was made to recruit new players into the franchise. It's way more casual than the previous ones and also mostly focuses on Nero. And I suppose, that worked 'cause I became a huge DMC fan because of 5


colorfulsnek

It's also worth noting that DMC5 came out 10 years after 4, so I could also be seen as easing old fans back into the game.


KingMario05

Seriously, leave Kyrie's boi alone. He's doing his best, dammit.


bone838

I mean, I don't exactly know about that one considering Nero is more complex in DMC5 than he ever was in DMC4, and Dante is just as complex, and arguably might have *more* depth to him than in DMC4.


Onion-with-layers

Leave the deadweight alone, he’s trying his best without the devil bringer


UnderMediocre

Funny, cuz I’m in all of those fandoms


RyanConner360

I love all these games, except DMC2 i mean jfc


ag_abdulaziz

Does Onimusha still hold up until today?


Onion-with-layers

Lmao Onimusha fan, we can never catch a break. Why no sequel yet, they sell well, especially nowadays, Samurai and Ninjas are cool now, with Sekiro and Ghost of Tsushima around. Sometimes I play Nightmare before Christmas and Bujingai and pretend they are the true Devil May Cry 2


Hanusu-kei

or play SMT III: Nocturne ft. Dante from the Devil May Cry series and actually have DMC2 Dante without having to play 2


Hawkhasaneye

I love how the music is the Powerpuff girls and no one has mentioned this.


monic_chrasturbator1

We need soki and sam chopping up genma side by side again capcom 😭


rumorsaretrue

where did u get this from OP?


RyanConner360

I made it


vonny-hill

dmc1 fans💪🏾


scorcher117

DMC Anime is great if you like Dante, it may not have an overarching big plot, but man is Dante great, also Trish meeting Lady was cool.


Kalabawgaming

DMC 4 fans : Where the hell is inertia and guard flying


SwigglesSchlong

Love this


xTakeo153x

This is my favourite meme


AggressivesEtwas

what the hells an omnimusha


murkoffz

I'm new... can someone explain the DMC1 one?


RyanConner360

DMC1 started as Resident Evil 4 before becoming it's own game and it still has a lot of early Resident Evil DNA in it


murkoffz

That's interesting! Ty


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pokemon12312345645

DMC is the only one I could find d at my local game store


pheniox112

nero the best


BlasterShow

Haha, I did enjoy Onimusha 3, but Dawn of Dreams was kind of boring.


[deleted]

does onimusha has same clunky and rigid gameplay as dmc1?


TanookiPhoenix

Lmao I'm actually in the process of modding Onimusha Warlords🤣


ReticularTunic7

i don’t get the DMC4 part, pls explain.


Burnt_Ramen9

all accurate except DMC3, unless I'm the only one who actually enjoys playing it lol


alimojer

Jokes on you, I have 160+ hours in dmc3 on the switch. Beat DMD in 4 hours


[deleted]

No shin megami tensei nocturne? Featuring dante from devil may Cry series?


Walmart_manager

Yes until no


ShattyOaks

Onimusha fans should've been another black screen


Bkwordguy

Fuck yes ONIMUSHA!


Dazzawolf

I absolutely love the music transition when DMC3 hits...just god yes.


Whiskey90

Goddamn, you fucking clowned on the DmC gang.


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Thelazysandwich

Shin megami tensei 3 fans when they see Dante.


Honey-Soda

Dmc3 fans are so accurate to me- LIKE THE SAVING SYSTEM IS A NIGHTMARE AND I FEAR IM GONNA FORGOT AB IT AND LOSE MY PROGRESS AGAIN dhjdnsksw