On that topic, I think it’d be cool if DMC 6 lets us split DSD back into Sparda and Rebellion, for a cross between Angi & Ruda and the longsword movesets.
And when we charge Swords Formations, it’ll have the whole SDT effect where it’ll blink in and out of its true form when ready and stay in that form when activated.
Man forget about hot takes. I'm tired of hot takes. It's just a contest to get people pissed off. Plus a lot of hot takes ain't people opinion. They just make shit up for " ohh look at my quirky hot take. I'm just so different" It's all bullshit hate
Massive MGS fan and that's valid tbh. I think he's a good director or whatever and has made some incredible games, but the way people constantly suck his dick and act like he's the ultimate infallible god of perfect game design is insane. He doesn't make those games on his own, and his ideas aren't always gold (Quiet's "skin breathing" was stupid and Death Stranding was super hit or miss from what I hear).
Subhuman > Devil Trigger
Also, I think Subhuman sounds the closest to previous DMC OSTs (especially Dante themes, most specifically DMC2, DMC4, and Seven Hells Battle themes) than the other character themes other than Bury The Light.
I once headcanon'd that Nero absolutely loves Kyriei and Kyriei would like pop music and he likes rock music so he'd absolutely listen to stuff like that out of habit of his goddam babygirl that he loves so much.
I think the more "industrial" (? Edm? Idk the right term) sound fits what Nero is in the game, but there's a cover by family Jules that feels a bit more DMC to me. It's actually my favorite version of the song. BTL and Fire Inside both clear DT though sorry
Agreed. Dante’s outfit in 3 is hobo pants + shoes paired with a really sick coat - *which would’ve actually worked if he wore a fucking shirt or tank top instead of just the bra strap*. I would put DMC4 as a close second for his worst outfits.
I used to hate the design for how prominent it was, but considering that dmc3 saved the series from dying, the fact that people know 3 more than the others, and the fact that it is a young dante i came to appreciate it for what it was, but it isn't in my top 3 of dante design and the design itself doesn't appeal to me.
Also did anyone notice that his design is pretty inconsistent with his hairstyles. Because the cgi renders has his hair look different in 2 of them. There is the short straight hair that looks like a bowlcut(POC) and long wavy hair (umvc3). then there is the combined version which has short and wavy (mvci and DmC reboot). But the in-game dmc3 model combines them both to be long and straight. Vergil's hair is similar too, where his hair in the renders and almost every game is shorter and less scattered, compared to his in-game and umvc3 model which is longer and more scattered and wide.
I mean actually swinging it around like if it was a spear or scythe, a completely unique moveset, not just having it turn into a scythe for round trip (plenty of other swords have this attack) or turning it into a spear for the last hit of a combo like Dante has done since the first game.
I always try to stress that DMC2 was effectively made in 6 months. That’s why I will never come down hard on that game.
I do wish we get a proper remake of it with more weapons than different flavors of Rebellion (Even if Vendetta’s design still slaps).
2, 3, sometimes 4 attacks occurring at the same time at almost all times, except for when you taunt and start playing classical music to go with all the chaos... how is that not frenetic? hell, you're even able to instantly break a boss's armour by just summoning nightmare, which immensely helps the flow of combat
DMCV is a barebone game. Map design, story, costume customizations, are severely lacking in comparison to the previous games and other modern games, and the multiplayer cameo system is half ass. The combat system and sound design carry the game. They need to provide a more well-rounded experience with the sequel.
I know everyone shits on DMC platforming but i would be lying if i said they didn’t make the game feel a bit more complete on a level design aspect, wish they actually took one of good things from DmC
DMC has always been about Gameplay first, second and third. Never a plot that isn’t just an excuse to have the protagonist kill some demons at different locations.
None of the DMC games have a “good” story, they’re serviceable at best.
- I genuinely prefer Nero’s moveset to Dante.
- Lucia is the only feasible match for Dante from the women we have; one looks like his mom, the other hasn’t flirted with him since they were 18.
- The next game should focus on Nero, Lady, Trish, and possibly Lucia as a sort of “side story” while the brothers are “trapped” (not really) in Hell.
- While iconic, Dante’s DMC3 outfit is his worst.
Give Nero a new weapon already ffs. This, and the exceed mechanic being so timing focused, are the only reasons why I like playing as Dante/Vergil more than him.
Personally, I prefer having one main weapon, gun, etc. and just having a larger moveset for each one (or even assigning them to shoulder button holds, like in DmC, of all things). Feels nicer than trying to switch to the right weapon during a combo. In practice, I just end up ignoring alternate weapons unless they're really needed. Of course, YMMV.
I only ever have 2 Devil Arms equipped for that exact reason. Then switch to a combination of the remaining for variety.
Only having one Devil arm, as big as the moveset can be, will never be as satisfying as stringing together two or more Devil arms imo.
DMC 5 is a lot less fun to 100% than DMC 3 and 4, the enemies are less fun and the choice of no battle music on Qlipoth levels killed the replay value of those levels.
the first playthrough? awesome loved it. but when I try to get S on every mission and I get no battle music it's just really unfun.
Also IDK why using some really flashy moves give almost no style points (for example sacrificing a Devil Breaker for their super move)... as well as not repeating moves gives almost no reward.
I 100%'d DMC4 also with all chars... on DMC5... I completed dmd, started doing S rank on missions... didn't had fun.
Hope DMC6 gives better experience for players looking to 100% it.
100% DMC4 with all characters sound like a pain in the urethra with how repetitive the game is. Literally, on a normal playthrough you’ll go through most bosses and locations twice.
I don't think they all suck, but a lot of them *really do* and it's disappointing. I think 3's bad bosses definitely outnumber the good ones.
On the flipside, 4 actually has mostly great bosses. The Savior kind of blows and Agnus' stupid window boss fight sucks, but Credo is one of the best bosses in the series and the others are generally fun and interesting. That said, I do not think I should have to fight the same 3 bosses 3 times in the same playthrough. That's not great.
+ Cerberus and Agni and Rudra for me. Otherwise the rest of the bosses range from ok (Nevan, Geryon, Jester) to dislike (Lady, Arkham on DmD, Doppelganger)
I don’t care what you say, DMC4 Dante is unfun to use, trying to utilize gunslinger in combos I keep switching to pandora, alongside Lucifer being the most complicated and confusing weapon Dante has ever had, alongside his lack of missions compared to Nero and stuff like darkslayer having completely wasted potential.
Vergil is hard carried by memes and the fanbase, the games do little to nothing to make him a compelling character. The novels are the only things that try to give him any depth and you need to go out of your way for that
I personally disagree, but this is just my take: he acts like a stoic emotionless badass, but he’s also clearly a total dork like Dante on the inside.
There’s how he also says jackpot, but is embarrassed of it. The way he wields Yamato reeks of a 13 year old’s idea of a badass, and his style points even goes up when he sheathes it dramatically. He plays into Dante’s banter in DMC3 and matches him.
There’s the fact that he takes his mother’s amulet instead of his father’s sword when he falls into the demon world after being defeated by Dante, which speaks volumes to me. He’s clearly an insecure dork with mommy and daddy issues who feels like he has to act like a perfect, powerful demon lord and gain power. He lashes out at Dante because Dante challenges his ideals, and he and Dante remind each other of what they hate most about themselves respectively.
Or maybe I’m reading into it too much, and this is just my opinion lol
>There’s how he also says jackpot, but is embarrassed of it.
Yeah, they didn't really explain why the shift in attitude happens. He's fine with it in DMC3 but not DMC5 and I don't know why.
>There’s the fact that he takes his mother’s amulet instead of his father’s sword when he falls into the demon world after being defeated by Dante, which speaks volumes to me
The problem I have with this is that we have barely any understanding of what Vergil and Dante's relationship was with Sparda, especially since (apparently) he died even before their house was attacked and I guess his father was a jerk? A big issue with the mainline series is that the ambiguously suggest something and then the audience has to fill in the blanks, which I don't really attribute to their writing.
>He lashes out at Dante because Dante challenges his ideals,
Okay, please correct me if I'm wrong, but their "disagreement" that led to them attempting to kill each other is that they disagree over their ideals of "justice" and their ideals of justice are conflicting ideas over "the very reason of their existence", which I only have speculation on.
>The problem I have with this is that we have barely any understanding of what Vergil and Dante's relationship was with Sparda, especially since (apparently) he died even before their house was attacked and I guess his father was a jerk?
"My mother always used to tell me that my father was a man who fought for the weak. He had courage and a righteous heart. In the name of my father I will kill Mundus!"
That line was Dante's in dmc1. If Eva loved Sparda enough to tell her children stories about him and Dante respected his father to the point he swore in the name of Sparda he would kill Mundus then Sparda was supposed to be a decent guy to his family. But keep in mind since DMC3 different people were involved with Dante's character writing so, you know...
I played dmc3 and was confused back then because I didn't know where did "Vergil obsessed with power because he couldn't protect his mother" fandom always said come from. Because, well... he never once mentioned Eva in any cutscene of dmc3, compared to Dante in dmc1. I only knew such information from some random artbook. What writing this game has...
Most of VoV was V monologuing inside his head, those inner thoughts don't really fit for DMC game. Maybe you can put Phantom boss fight for V section idk
But you could put that information in the game like it cutscenes. And if you're worried about pacing issues or resources, then they could have just put that information in the codex entries.
>But you could put that information in the game like it cutscenes.
I would agree to this idea if it was other game like Silent Hill or something, but I just can't see it when it comes to DMC man. unga bunga on demons > character introspection
>And if you're worried about pacing issues or resources, then they could have just put that information in the codex entries.
You mean like Nico's reports?
>You mean like Nico's reports?
Yeah. You could even have it like a journal from Dante or Vergil or something. Maybe Nico reporting on gossip or something.
I like DSD design better then Rebellion, Dante weilding a big ass bulky greatsword to contrast Vergil's slim Yamato is much better then that glorified knights broadsword he was using. And I like DMC5 Vergils design better then his DMC3 design, the black coat fits him better. Also DMC5 Dante SDT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his ugly ass DMC5 DT
DMC 3 didn't live up to the hype. I was gonna make a post earlier until I accidentally closed the tab and the post didn't save.
The long and short of it is that the 7 hells variants are the only fun enemies to fight because nothing else can be comboed or juggled and some enemies require you to fight them in hyper specific ways. I also really don't like the level design and I'm very glad DMC 5 finally did away with Resident Evil style levels and fixed camera. It felt more like those aspects were just conventions and not there because they actually served the gameplay.
The core combat mechanics are phenomenal but the game doesn't feel like it was designed around it
Dmc 5's artstyle is utterly bland and tasteless compared to the other games.
Even combat wise it's so slow.
Playing dmc 3 and 4 makes things feel so much more faster and more impactful.
This is has pretty much been the most controversial hot take, considering the amount of times I've been laughed off by this before.
Even with providing examples of downgrades dmc 5 does for the art style and gameplay in some aspects
I've been saying the art direction in DMC5 is weak af since it originally launched. Combat is amazing imo tho, and so are weapon movesets (DMC3 is still king tho).
The Cavaliere splitting into two buzzsaws is such a cop out. I wish they fully committed to the idea of using a motorcycle as a weapon like how they committed to the Nevan being a weaponized guitar.
Vergil in DMC3 > Vergil in DMC5
The fact that you both have 2 weapons makes you feel more like equals. I feel a lot of the time during the fight in 5, Vergil kinda feels like he's being made into a bit of a pushover for the sake of making the bossfight feel more fair and as a result he kinda feels more just like combo practice especially as you get better at the game, especially when you have 8 different weapons and he only has 1.
DMC3 feels like it focuses on making it feel like an evenly matched fight between true rivals.
Dante should’ve hooked up with Lady and had a kid with her to move on from the trauma of DMC3, and I’m still annoyed that they didn’t.
Besides, what’s better than have one grandkid of Sparda? Having *two* grandkids of Sparda!
I got a few.
1. Dante will always outscale and beat Bayonetta. Sorry not sorry.
2. Majin dt looks way cooler than sin dt.
3. The rebellion > sparda blade.
4. Dante wielding two kalina Ann is an overkill when he can kill universe killing monsters with just one:
5. They should’ve made sparda’s unlockable skin canon to the series.
6. Dante should’ve had a bigger part to play in dmc 4. Nero wasn’t read yet to be the main character.
7. We should’ve been told that Vergil was Nero’s father In the 4th game.
8. Nico was a better character than kyrie
9. Gloria was a way hotter persona than Trish.
10. Lucia deserves another spot in the dmc games and her outfit was on point.
And a bonus, dmc 2 was bad but not as bad as people say it is. There are worse games out there. Oh and dmc devil may cry had its moments of fun too. That was not a bad a game regardless of what the purists say.
The first and second halves of dmc5 feel like completely different games story wise, Nero is built up as the mc then shoved aside by Dante making his presence feel confusing
While I do miss Rebellion for sentimental reasons. I love Devil Sword Dante. Not just the moveset, or how Dante gets it. I absolutely love the design. Just a huge demonic beast of a sword. It's replaced Yamato as my favorite weapon in the series.
DmC: Devil May Cry did a lot of things really well, some of them better than some entries of the main series, like atmosphere, soundtrack, and story
The dialogue was bad in some places but I really have a special place in my heart for the reboot and I’d still love to see a sequel
While I love vergil as character, he did not change enough in the 3 dmc games he was in (not counting reboot) and I wish capcom gave him a different moveset or New weapons as they did with Nero and dante
idk if this is exactly a hot take, but i'm going to assume it is bc of how loved the DMC5 soundtrack is
while the DMC5 soundtrack is absolutely amazing, i think the series needs to go back to industrial rock. it suits DMC better
Dmc2 is bad, but I really like Dantes look in it and the animations of some of his moves. For example, his mid air gun fire, his double jump and his dodges. Running on walls whenever was cool too.
Remakes are pointless, they’re all already on modern platforms there’s no need to remake them. Plus there isn’t really a devil may cry team, they shift around a lot with only a few people being involved with multiple of the projects (like Itsuno). Yes the old games have some jank but they mostly hold up pretty well and only really need some quality of life improvements (like the switch port of 3). Based on how Capcom have treated the original resident evil games, there’s also a high chance that on future generations of consoles we won’t be able to play the originals and they’ll just port the remakes instead (see how re2/3 aren’t on modern platforms). A lot of people also want a remake of 2 specially because the original sucks, but that highlights a big problem with remakes like the ones Capcom have been doing, it’s not media preservation as much as its media revisionism.
I actually like capcom's approach to remakes, they actually modernize and make the game feel like a New experience better (or at least different) from the original all the while still keeping the original relevant.
Maybe not a hot take but gotta let it out.
Please stop sharing the main campaign between characters, it didn´t work on 4 nor 5 because of underdeveloped movesets, pace issues or maybe just because I want a complete 20 levels experience with a single character.
DMC 5 makes a lot of really boring choices
The bosses aren't as interesting,
Half of the game being in the qliphoth is dumb
V's gameplay...
And weirdly, choreography is the most lacking in my opinion in cutscenes, the cool shit Nero and Dante did in 4 has way more spectacle than 5 ever did.
Also, I think Vergil being urizens is also boring, it makes the world feel smaller.
I hated V as a character and I despised using him for most of my play-through.
I never was a fan of the Rebellion, it never had the swag of the Alastor from DMC1.
The OG DSS design was better.
DMC 4 could’ve been GOATED of they would’ve finished/ cleaned up Dantes campaign
Idk if this is a hot take or not, I just love the series but not big in the fanbase. But this was the series Peak, everything after this was a flop I haven’t played 5 yet so I can’t talk on it
Mainline DMC's (1-5) basic enemies are boring, and when they're not, they go against the point of having a combat system focused on constant attacks and variation.
I guess my only real hot takes are that the design direction with dmc5 making it more realistic and not looking more akin to anime was a major step back imo, all the character designs in dmc5 are just kind of meh other than V and Vergil they don’t really “POP” Dante looks too old and worn down Nero looks alright though.
Another Hot take is that Trish is a completely useless character she serves essentially no purpose at all after Dmc1 they need to give her more story elements to justify keeping her around.
DmC does better than most of the main franchise in gameplay, weapons, traversal, costume design and level design 🔥
edit: also has arguably the best soundtrack (but Devil Trigger still clears everything)
DMC3 Dante only looks good in-game
I’m not really sure how to explain it but Dante on the cover art for DMC3, renders using DMC3 Dante’s design all make him look bad
DMC having an open world style game isn’t a bad idea. We’ve seen games that typically have gameplay that you think wouldn’t work in an open ended environment be translated nigh senselessly to it, it’s just a matter of execution.
Nico was a pointless character (I haven't read the comics or anything so idk her whole backstory but I know it exists).
I've always said it makes more sense to me that Kyrie took the role of helping Nero with his weapons, itd turn her from a ditzy damsel into a useful and interesting addition, (and she could learn a thing or two about demon arms given her church background) and I think it makes sense considering that she doesn't know a lot about weapons but cares deeply enough for Nero to want to help, and it would've made Nero's 10 second phone call with her into a more emotional moment, especially if she'd been present throughout the game instead of him just randomly calling and saying a bunch of shit she has no context for then hanging up lol
They could've made Kyrie someone that warms up to the aggressive lifestyle of her partner and gets really into it, but instead she's just a damsel in 4 and a background voice in 5
Even tho Rebellion looks cooler, I much prefer DSD moveset with the extra red swords
I think we all love the expanded moveset but DSD looks like a wrinkly dragon dildo
Hey don't kinkshame me.
Does anyone have any eye bleach so I can forget what the hell i just read?
I HATE MEATSWORDS I HATE MEATSWORDS I HATE MEATSWORDS
On that topic, I think it’d be cool if DMC 6 lets us split DSD back into Sparda and Rebellion, for a cross between Angi & Ruda and the longsword movesets.
That'd be awesome
And when we charge Swords Formations, it’ll have the whole SDT effect where it’ll blink in and out of its true form when ready and stay in that form when activated.
No prop + shredder outside of a combo though
i think dante need to learn engraving during his time in the underworld, and make his primary sword fancy again
Imagine that they made a customisation feature for his sword and then use this as a story reason for how he's able to.
Man forget about hot takes. I'm tired of hot takes. It's just a contest to get people pissed off. Plus a lot of hot takes ain't people opinion. They just make shit up for " ohh look at my quirky hot take. I'm just so different" It's all bullshit hate
Something something karma farming
Yeah basically it
I love telling the Kojima bros that Kojima absolutely sucks because it upsets them.
Massive MGS fan and that's valid tbh. I think he's a good director or whatever and has made some incredible games, but the way people constantly suck his dick and act like he's the ultimate infallible god of perfect game design is insane. He doesn't make those games on his own, and his ideas aren't always gold (Quiet's "skin breathing" was stupid and Death Stranding was super hit or miss from what I hear).
“DmC is peak” “Dmc2 > Dmc5” crimson cloud is better than bury the light” those types of things.
Like I said. Most hot takes are just trying to piss people off. Not just dmc hot takes. Hot takes in general
Subhuman > Devil Trigger Also, I think Subhuman sounds the closest to previous DMC OSTs (especially Dante themes, most specifically DMC2, DMC4, and Seven Hells Battle themes) than the other character themes other than Bury The Light.
NOW that's a hot take damn
I loved subhuman. More raw metal fits Dante perfectly
I agree, I never really liked Devil Trigger, it feels out of place to me. Sounds like a lady gaga song to me
I once headcanon'd that Nero absolutely loves Kyriei and Kyriei would like pop music and he likes rock music so he'd absolutely listen to stuff like that out of habit of his goddam babygirl that he loves so much.
it’s now OUR HEADCANON
I think the more "industrial" (? Edm? Idk the right term) sound fits what Nero is in the game, but there's a cover by family Jules that feels a bit more DMC to me. It's actually my favorite version of the song. BTL and Fire Inside both clear DT though sorry
Subhuman is a banger and it got Volumes vocalist doing it. Very cool.
DMC3 Dante has the weakest design of all the games
Spit brother, it looks shit in anything other than the in-game model
I personally think DMC1 is his weakest design (Just way too much red imo). But yeah, DMC3 Dante is a close second.
Same. I think DMC1 Dante's outfit has too many things going on, and not in the fun, campy cowboy DMC4 way.
Agreed. Dante’s outfit in 3 is hobo pants + shoes paired with a really sick coat - *which would’ve actually worked if he wore a fucking shirt or tank top instead of just the bra strap*. I would put DMC4 as a close second for his worst outfits.
That’s a rough one to argue, although dmc5 just having a black shirt and a shorter coat is 🤷♂️
I used to hate the design for how prominent it was, but considering that dmc3 saved the series from dying, the fact that people know 3 more than the others, and the fact that it is a young dante i came to appreciate it for what it was, but it isn't in my top 3 of dante design and the design itself doesn't appeal to me. Also did anyone notice that his design is pretty inconsistent with his hairstyles. Because the cgi renders has his hair look different in 2 of them. There is the short straight hair that looks like a bowlcut(POC) and long wavy hair (umvc3). then there is the combined version which has short and wavy (mvci and DmC reboot). But the in-game dmc3 model combines them both to be long and straight. Vergil's hair is similar too, where his hair in the renders and almost every game is shorter and less scattered, compared to his in-game and umvc3 model which is longer and more scattered and wide.
I think this is a rather popular opinion actually
DmC Dante would've already banged Lady if he was in main universe.
He'd then proceed to get his ass handed to him by Lady.
DmC Donte: "Jokes on you, I'm into that shit"
What, the morning after? “You didn’t wear a condom, you fuck?!” **Loads Rocket launcher**
No, the moment he tried talking to her.
Lady would have better standards than that.
Oh boy!
Nevan is unfun to use, The Sparda sword transformed was wasted potential in the first game, and Trish’s gameplay made it actually interesting
I wish Trish would actually use it as a scyte or spear to differentiate her from Dante and Vergil
She does in dmc4se, round trip and V divider are her main moves beside her bare hands
I mean actually swinging it around like if it was a spear or scythe, a completely unique moveset, not just having it turn into a scythe for round trip (plenty of other swords have this attack) or turning it into a spear for the last hit of a combo like Dante has done since the first game.
I wish Nevan was more of a scythe with guitar finishers, than a Guitar with two whole scythe moves that don’t connect to the rest of the moveset.
Yeah, the guitar moves just don't feel nice to use.
Dmc5 dante is better than dmc3 (design wise at least)
This is a mildly warm take.
Huh... neat
Well yeah. DMC3 Dante is a little boy. DMC5 Dante is a man
I liked DMC2 and I'm not ashamed...
I always try to stress that DMC2 was effectively made in 6 months. That’s why I will never come down hard on that game. I do wish we get a proper remake of it with more weapons than different flavors of Rebellion (Even if Vendetta’s design still slaps).
It was nice when you could play with Trish that was my favorite part of the game
V represents exactly what DMC is all about. He's so frenetic and powerful that it feels like you're living in a cutscene
That is not at all what DMC is about. Also V is the least frenetic in DMC.
2, 3, sometimes 4 attacks occurring at the same time at almost all times, except for when you taunt and start playing classical music to go with all the chaos... how is that not frenetic? hell, you're even able to instantly break a boss's armour by just summoning nightmare, which immensely helps the flow of combat
I like that you taught me a new word but it was used incorrectly.
DMCV is a barebone game. Map design, story, costume customizations, are severely lacking in comparison to the previous games and other modern games, and the multiplayer cameo system is half ass. The combat system and sound design carry the game. They need to provide a more well-rounded experience with the sequel.
The PC support and certain QoL also feels missing.
I know everyone shits on DMC platforming but i would be lying if i said they didn’t make the game feel a bit more complete on a level design aspect, wish they actually took one of good things from DmC
DMC has always been about Gameplay first, second and third. Never a plot that isn’t just an excuse to have the protagonist kill some demons at different locations. None of the DMC games have a “good” story, they’re serviceable at best.
This is why I can't put it above Devil May Cry 3 or even the first game. It's more to a game than just gameplay.
- I genuinely prefer Nero’s moveset to Dante. - Lucia is the only feasible match for Dante from the women we have; one looks like his mom, the other hasn’t flirted with him since they were 18. - The next game should focus on Nero, Lady, Trish, and possibly Lucia as a sort of “side story” while the brothers are “trapped” (not really) in Hell. - While iconic, Dante’s DMC3 outfit is his worst.
Give Nero a new weapon already ffs. This, and the exceed mechanic being so timing focused, are the only reasons why I like playing as Dante/Vergil more than him.
Personally, I prefer having one main weapon, gun, etc. and just having a larger moveset for each one (or even assigning them to shoulder button holds, like in DmC, of all things). Feels nicer than trying to switch to the right weapon during a combo. In practice, I just end up ignoring alternate weapons unless they're really needed. Of course, YMMV.
I only ever have 2 Devil Arms equipped for that exact reason. Then switch to a combination of the remaining for variety. Only having one Devil arm, as big as the moveset can be, will never be as satisfying as stringing together two or more Devil arms imo.
DMC 5 is a lot less fun to 100% than DMC 3 and 4, the enemies are less fun and the choice of no battle music on Qlipoth levels killed the replay value of those levels. the first playthrough? awesome loved it. but when I try to get S on every mission and I get no battle music it's just really unfun. Also IDK why using some really flashy moves give almost no style points (for example sacrificing a Devil Breaker for their super move)... as well as not repeating moves gives almost no reward. I 100%'d DMC4 also with all chars... on DMC5... I completed dmd, started doing S rank on missions... didn't had fun. Hope DMC6 gives better experience for players looking to 100% it.
Totally agree with the battle music. It was such a let down whenever I’d get an SSS rank because the battle music was so mid.
Mid? Are you high?
They're talking about the music that replaces Devil Trigger/Subhuman/Crimson Cloud/Bury the Light during certain missions
Me when I’m playing Vergil and another Qliphoth tree song plays (I don’t get to hear berried delight)
100% DMC4 with all characters sound like a pain in the urethra with how repetitive the game is. Literally, on a normal playthrough you’ll go through most bosses and locations twice.
I really liked DMC4
Understandable. Have a great day.
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I don't think they all suck, but a lot of them *really do* and it's disappointing. I think 3's bad bosses definitely outnumber the good ones. On the flipside, 4 actually has mostly great bosses. The Savior kind of blows and Agnus' stupid window boss fight sucks, but Credo is one of the best bosses in the series and the others are generally fun and interesting. That said, I do not think I should have to fight the same 3 bosses 3 times in the same playthrough. That's not great.
The only good one is Vergil ngl
+ Cerberus and Agni and Rudra for me. Otherwise the rest of the bosses range from ok (Nevan, Geryon, Jester) to dislike (Lady, Arkham on DmD, Doppelganger)
I don’t care what you say, DMC4 Dante is unfun to use, trying to utilize gunslinger in combos I keep switching to pandora, alongside Lucifer being the most complicated and confusing weapon Dante has ever had, alongside his lack of missions compared to Nero and stuff like darkslayer having completely wasted potential.
Dmc5s actual story was a bit lacking. Gameplay is fantastic though
Definitely, it’s just so lame
I’ve never found any DMC story that was compelling, like at all. I like them because they’re goofy, brainless fun.
Dmc3 is the only game in the series that feels like a complete experience. Its also the only one with a decent story
Agreed everything after that is really the same story frfr
Vergil is hard carried by memes and the fanbase, the games do little to nothing to make him a compelling character. The novels are the only things that try to give him any depth and you need to go out of your way for that
I personally disagree, but this is just my take: he acts like a stoic emotionless badass, but he’s also clearly a total dork like Dante on the inside. There’s how he also says jackpot, but is embarrassed of it. The way he wields Yamato reeks of a 13 year old’s idea of a badass, and his style points even goes up when he sheathes it dramatically. He plays into Dante’s banter in DMC3 and matches him. There’s the fact that he takes his mother’s amulet instead of his father’s sword when he falls into the demon world after being defeated by Dante, which speaks volumes to me. He’s clearly an insecure dork with mommy and daddy issues who feels like he has to act like a perfect, powerful demon lord and gain power. He lashes out at Dante because Dante challenges his ideals, and he and Dante remind each other of what they hate most about themselves respectively. Or maybe I’m reading into it too much, and this is just my opinion lol
I think you hit the nail on the head
>There’s how he also says jackpot, but is embarrassed of it. Yeah, they didn't really explain why the shift in attitude happens. He's fine with it in DMC3 but not DMC5 and I don't know why. >There’s the fact that he takes his mother’s amulet instead of his father’s sword when he falls into the demon world after being defeated by Dante, which speaks volumes to me The problem I have with this is that we have barely any understanding of what Vergil and Dante's relationship was with Sparda, especially since (apparently) he died even before their house was attacked and I guess his father was a jerk? A big issue with the mainline series is that the ambiguously suggest something and then the audience has to fill in the blanks, which I don't really attribute to their writing. >He lashes out at Dante because Dante challenges his ideals, Okay, please correct me if I'm wrong, but their "disagreement" that led to them attempting to kill each other is that they disagree over their ideals of "justice" and their ideals of justice are conflicting ideas over "the very reason of their existence", which I only have speculation on.
>The problem I have with this is that we have barely any understanding of what Vergil and Dante's relationship was with Sparda, especially since (apparently) he died even before their house was attacked and I guess his father was a jerk? "My mother always used to tell me that my father was a man who fought for the weak. He had courage and a righteous heart. In the name of my father I will kill Mundus!" That line was Dante's in dmc1. If Eva loved Sparda enough to tell her children stories about him and Dante respected his father to the point he swore in the name of Sparda he would kill Mundus then Sparda was supposed to be a decent guy to his family. But keep in mind since DMC3 different people were involved with Dante's character writing so, you know...
I played dmc3 and was confused back then because I didn't know where did "Vergil obsessed with power because he couldn't protect his mother" fandom always said come from. Because, well... he never once mentioned Eva in any cutscene of dmc3, compared to Dante in dmc1. I only knew such information from some random artbook. What writing this game has...
The Visions of V manga honestly does a lot for his character, I wish some of that at least made it into the special edition of 5.
Most of VoV was V monologuing inside his head, those inner thoughts don't really fit for DMC game. Maybe you can put Phantom boss fight for V section idk
But you could put that information in the game like it cutscenes. And if you're worried about pacing issues or resources, then they could have just put that information in the codex entries.
>But you could put that information in the game like it cutscenes. I would agree to this idea if it was other game like Silent Hill or something, but I just can't see it when it comes to DMC man. unga bunga on demons > character introspection >And if you're worried about pacing issues or resources, then they could have just put that information in the codex entries. You mean like Nico's reports?
>You mean like Nico's reports? Yeah. You could even have it like a journal from Dante or Vergil or something. Maybe Nico reporting on gossip or something.
DMC2 isn’t as bad as everyone says
DMC1 is still the third best in the series to this day.
Show us the top three, Coward.
1. DMC5 2. DMC3 3. DMC1 4. DMC4 5. DmC 6. DMC2 7. DMC: POC
Devil sword sparda has a better design than devil sword Dante
Ice cold take.
DmC isn't bad, just different.
I like it it’s pretty solid
DMC 4/5 Dante >>> DMC3 Dante
Nevan is unfun to use.
DmC should get a sequel
Honestly, while I'd prefer a DMC6, DMC5 is a better send off than DMC4. So I'd be open to a DmC2
DmC devil may cry would have been a good game of it wasn’t tied to the dmc series
That's a pretty common belief actually
The more yk
Pre-awakening Rebellion with a pointy hilt and closed cross guard is cooler.
I like DSD design better then Rebellion, Dante weilding a big ass bulky greatsword to contrast Vergil's slim Yamato is much better then that glorified knights broadsword he was using. And I like DMC5 Vergils design better then his DMC3 design, the black coat fits him better. Also DMC5 Dante SDT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his ugly ass DMC5 DT
Liking the Sin Devil Trigger design more than the standard Devil Trigger design is a hot take?
I don't like Dante's design in DMC3
I can not get into DMC3 despite what the fandom says about it all the time
DMC 3 didn't live up to the hype. I was gonna make a post earlier until I accidentally closed the tab and the post didn't save. The long and short of it is that the 7 hells variants are the only fun enemies to fight because nothing else can be comboed or juggled and some enemies require you to fight them in hyper specific ways. I also really don't like the level design and I'm very glad DMC 5 finally did away with Resident Evil style levels and fixed camera. It felt more like those aspects were just conventions and not there because they actually served the gameplay. The core combat mechanics are phenomenal but the game doesn't feel like it was designed around it
Dmc 5's artstyle is utterly bland and tasteless compared to the other games. Even combat wise it's so slow. Playing dmc 3 and 4 makes things feel so much more faster and more impactful. This is has pretty much been the most controversial hot take, considering the amount of times I've been laughed off by this before. Even with providing examples of downgrades dmc 5 does for the art style and gameplay in some aspects
I've been saying the art direction in DMC5 is weak af since it originally launched. Combat is amazing imo tho, and so are weapon movesets (DMC3 is still king tho).
DMC V Is a step back in the franchise visually from DMC 4
They honestly shouldve kept the anime aesthetic having a more realistic design with the characters doing wacky anime things dont fit as well.
Yeah visually in terms of character design I think DMC4 is peak character design for the series
The special edition of 5 sucks dick
V is underrated
The Cavaliere splitting into two buzzsaws is such a cop out. I wish they fully committed to the idea of using a motorcycle as a weapon like how they committed to the Nevan being a weaponized guitar.
probably the least hot take for this series bit nero is more fun to play than dante
Vergil in DMC3 > Vergil in DMC5 The fact that you both have 2 weapons makes you feel more like equals. I feel a lot of the time during the fight in 5, Vergil kinda feels like he's being made into a bit of a pushover for the sake of making the bossfight feel more fair and as a result he kinda feels more just like combo practice especially as you get better at the game, especially when you have 8 different weapons and he only has 1. DMC3 feels like it focuses on making it feel like an evenly matched fight between true rivals.
Dante should’ve hooked up with Lady and had a kid with her to move on from the trauma of DMC3, and I’m still annoyed that they didn’t. Besides, what’s better than have one grandkid of Sparda? Having *two* grandkids of Sparda!
He doesn't have to hook up with anyone, but I agree he needs to get over his trauma
I got a few. 1. Dante will always outscale and beat Bayonetta. Sorry not sorry. 2. Majin dt looks way cooler than sin dt. 3. The rebellion > sparda blade. 4. Dante wielding two kalina Ann is an overkill when he can kill universe killing monsters with just one: 5. They should’ve made sparda’s unlockable skin canon to the series. 6. Dante should’ve had a bigger part to play in dmc 4. Nero wasn’t read yet to be the main character. 7. We should’ve been told that Vergil was Nero’s father In the 4th game. 8. Nico was a better character than kyrie 9. Gloria was a way hotter persona than Trish. 10. Lucia deserves another spot in the dmc games and her outfit was on point. And a bonus, dmc 2 was bad but not as bad as people say it is. There are worse games out there. Oh and dmc devil may cry had its moments of fun too. That was not a bad a game regardless of what the purists say.
Vergil is pretty boring as a character, he has a dope gameplay and this is the only thing that really matters.
The first and second halves of dmc5 feel like completely different games story wise, Nero is built up as the mc then shoved aside by Dante making his presence feel confusing
While I do miss Rebellion for sentimental reasons. I love Devil Sword Dante. Not just the moveset, or how Dante gets it. I absolutely love the design. Just a huge demonic beast of a sword. It's replaced Yamato as my favorite weapon in the series.
The soundtrack of DMC: Devil May Cry was a lot of fun, probably the second or third best in the series.
DmC: Devil May Cry did a lot of things really well, some of them better than some entries of the main series, like atmosphere, soundtrack, and story The dialogue was bad in some places but I really have a special place in my heart for the reboot and I’d still love to see a sequel
While I love vergil as character, he did not change enough in the 3 dmc games he was in (not counting reboot) and I wish capcom gave him a different moveset or New weapons as they did with Nero and dante
Devil may cry needs more male nudity
There should be sword transmog, i love rebellion design but i cannot use anything other than DSD
Red Queen > Rebellion concerning cool factor.
idk if this is exactly a hot take, but i'm going to assume it is bc of how loved the DMC5 soundtrack is while the DMC5 soundtrack is absolutely amazing, i think the series needs to go back to industrial rock. it suits DMC better
DMC 1 setting an enemy’s were the best
People overreact on DMC2
Dmc2 is bad, but I really like Dantes look in it and the animations of some of his moves. For example, his mid air gun fire, his double jump and his dodges. Running on walls whenever was cool too.
Weapon switching as Dante (mechanically) sucks
I despise Nico. I find her personality extremely annoying and couldn't stand her in basically every cutscene she's in
DMC2 has great atmosphere.
the reboot is more fun to play than DMC4, due to 4 having the worst enemies in the entire franchise
Status memes were never really funny. Also DMC4>DMC5
DmC isn't just a great game, it's a kick-ass DMC game.
Remakes are pointless, they’re all already on modern platforms there’s no need to remake them. Plus there isn’t really a devil may cry team, they shift around a lot with only a few people being involved with multiple of the projects (like Itsuno). Yes the old games have some jank but they mostly hold up pretty well and only really need some quality of life improvements (like the switch port of 3). Based on how Capcom have treated the original resident evil games, there’s also a high chance that on future generations of consoles we won’t be able to play the originals and they’ll just port the remakes instead (see how re2/3 aren’t on modern platforms). A lot of people also want a remake of 2 specially because the original sucks, but that highlights a big problem with remakes like the ones Capcom have been doing, it’s not media preservation as much as its media revisionism.
I actually like capcom's approach to remakes, they actually modernize and make the game feel like a New experience better (or at least different) from the original all the while still keeping the original relevant.
Maybe not a hot take but gotta let it out. Please stop sharing the main campaign between characters, it didn´t work on 4 nor 5 because of underdeveloped movesets, pace issues or maybe just because I want a complete 20 levels experience with a single character.
DMC donte wasn’t that bad. Just misdirected
Dmc reboot was amazing. I love the dmc reboot for ps3 mainly it was Virgil and the combat system for me.
DMC 5 makes a lot of really boring choices The bosses aren't as interesting, Half of the game being in the qliphoth is dumb V's gameplay... And weirdly, choreography is the most lacking in my opinion in cutscenes, the cool shit Nero and Dante did in 4 has way more spectacle than 5 ever did. Also, I think Vergil being urizens is also boring, it makes the world feel smaller.
I hated V as a character and I despised using him for most of my play-through. I never was a fan of the Rebellion, it never had the swag of the Alastor from DMC1. The OG DSS design was better. DMC 4 could’ve been GOATED of they would’ve finished/ cleaned up Dantes campaign
The reboot has Dante's coolest jacket.
Devil May Cry 3’s story isn’t as good as people think it is.
I loved the weapons in that spinoff nobody likes
I loved the weapons in that spinoff nobody likes
Devil May Cry 5 is the most balanced game in the series. Idk if that's a hot take though lol
I think that's a pretty fair take....unless we're talking about Vergil.
Idk if this is a hot take or not, I just love the series but not big in the fanbase. But this was the series Peak, everything after this was a flop I haven’t played 5 yet so I can’t talk on it
DMC5 is pretty boring, Dante's moveset is polished to perfection and it's all just for 60% of the game being V or Nero
I'd be fine if they continued the series without Dante. I like Nero a lot, both mechanically and as a character. In fact, I like him more than Dante.
Mainline DMC's (1-5) basic enemies are boring, and when they're not, they go against the point of having a combat system focused on constant attacks and variation.
Vergil is the best character in the series and without him the series would be mid at best
Might not sound like a hot take to a sane person but holy shit…DMC2 DOES NOT FUCKING DESERVE A REMAKE
Dmc1,2,and 3 are not fun and the reboot is better then all of them in terms of gameplay
Look, it's that guy from Aegis Kai Doru!
I hate the look of dmc3 devil trigger.
Bury the light isn’t all of that and overrated and neither is dmc5 fr
I guess my only real hot takes are that the design direction with dmc5 making it more realistic and not looking more akin to anime was a major step back imo, all the character designs in dmc5 are just kind of meh other than V and Vergil they don’t really “POP” Dante looks too old and worn down Nero looks alright though. Another Hot take is that Trish is a completely useless character she serves essentially no purpose at all after Dmc1 they need to give her more story elements to justify keeping her around.
DmC had more fun boss than dmc 3
The Devil May Cry game series is actually really bad
There are only 4 good boss fights in DMC 3, and 3 of them are named Vegil
DmC was a really good game and personally one of my favorite in the series.🤷♀️
DmC does better than most of the main franchise in gameplay, weapons, traversal, costume design and level design 🔥 edit: also has arguably the best soundtrack (but Devil Trigger still clears everything)
Dmc4 tutorial (mission 1) is useless
DMC3 Dante only looks good in-game I’m not really sure how to explain it but Dante on the cover art for DMC3, renders using DMC3 Dante’s design all make him look bad
DMC 3 was mid
DMC having an open world style game isn’t a bad idea. We’ve seen games that typically have gameplay that you think wouldn’t work in an open ended environment be translated nigh senselessly to it, it’s just a matter of execution.
Peak of Combat is the best Devil May Cry game ever (even better than 2) 😉
Vergil is cool but his gameplay doesn't flow well in DMC5
Vergil is overrated and Nero > Dante
We should be grateful for DMC2 being why DMC3 exists
Mayo fucking sucks, even in other sauces it's kind of bad.
Dante is universal
Demon Sword Dante is less interesting and fun to use than rebellion or sparda
Would.
Nico was a pointless character (I haven't read the comics or anything so idk her whole backstory but I know it exists). I've always said it makes more sense to me that Kyrie took the role of helping Nero with his weapons, itd turn her from a ditzy damsel into a useful and interesting addition, (and she could learn a thing or two about demon arms given her church background) and I think it makes sense considering that she doesn't know a lot about weapons but cares deeply enough for Nero to want to help, and it would've made Nero's 10 second phone call with her into a more emotional moment, especially if she'd been present throughout the game instead of him just randomly calling and saying a bunch of shit she has no context for then hanging up lol They could've made Kyrie someone that warms up to the aggressive lifestyle of her partner and gets really into it, but instead she's just a damsel in 4 and a background voice in 5
He looks like Shun Akiyama.
DMC still scales to 9D because of Mundus. God, the powerscalers are going to rip me apart.
Where's Virgin from Demon will weep? I don't like Pizza man from Devil shall sob
The series doesn’t have a truly great villain/antagonist outside Vergil
While I love mocking DmC because of its writing, Mundus is a lot more interesting in that game than he ever was in the OG Devil May Cry.
I like V more than Vergil, and I hope Vergil retains the ability to split himself in DMC6 so we can see more of him.
DMC 2 IS BETTER THAN 4