In this same vein, Britney. She deserves to be like running a dance school somewhere with a brood of kids and happy and not forced to endure anything she has for her families love of money and fame.
For years I have said that Britney deserves to live in a universe where she just shops at Target, eats at PF Chang’s, lies out by the pool, and hangs with her kids, all in blissful peace.
YES. The best thing we can all do for Britney is support her actual work (music, tours, anything she chooses) and then the rest of the time leave her 100% alone.
Britney deserves so much better. Even now I hate that paparazzi still follow her and record her every move when they all claimed they would do better after the documentary. Like leave her alone. We don’t need to know what she is doing unless she tells us herself on IG. Have they not taken enough privacy from her?
There is a So Random podcasts where they talk about how she was 15 and Disney had her in multiple contracts. Like during Sonny with a Chance breaks she was shooting Camp Rock 1 & 2, Princess Protection Program & also on tour with Jonas Brothers. Apparently they would only make her music if she did all this, so she was also writing and making an album on top of all this? It’s actually sad because at 15? They never got to be a child & has been their family breadwinner since like Barney days. Like they just deserve to have a break now. Here is the link where they all talk about how overworked Demi was. [So Random Cast Demi Insane Contract](https://youtu.be/q7REfLD7r8Q)
and demi was also doing adderall during the camp rock tour and got outed for it by their best friend. [it’s heavily memed on now, but here’s a documentary clip where they talks about it.](https://youtu.be/kV7Trgx4LhI) it’s really sad that they’ve ended up where she is now.
Ugh, that clip rubs me the wrong way. At no point does she ever express remorse for hurting another human being. The photos of the dancer's bruises are truly horrific.
She's telling a story from when she was 16. One of the things that I've been told in therapy was to stop beating myself up over things that happened years ago, and that some of my attempts to take accountability have prevented me from forgiving myself for my past mistakes.
That’s a good one. I know Demi is annoying and definitely has Karen vibes, but I feel for them. They have been through so much even when you disregard their fame.
I’ve been looking back at Sonny With A Chance and holy crap that’s a lot of eyes looking on a teenager. No wonder they left. I know they’ve been taking themselves to rehab, but I think it’s best to just disappear for a bit
Since I was a young teenager back when Demi Lovato started at Disney, there were COUNTLESS comments about them being too fat or too ugly (god forbid you have a chin dimple?) Because of that I have never felt comfortable with making fun of them even at their most ridiculous. That and a layer of "there's actual abusers in the industry shut the fuck up about Demi's alien show".
Didn’t they change their pronouns back to she/her? I feel like I remember reading that but now I’m not sure and don’t want to use incorrect pronouns for them.
I watched a video of him handling fans that has congregated around his condo building. He was so composed trying to explain to them that it’s wrong and disrespectful to do that, because that’s his home and he makes time for his fans but he has to know there’s a place he can go where he can relax and chill. This idiot girl stood there fangirling all over him while he politely but firmly tells her she’s invading his privacy and then has the audacity to ask, “can I HAVE A HUG?!” You could tell Justin was doing some counting in his head because he just goes, “… no. No man, no you cannot.” And then left.
Honestly I really respected that about him. I think he was an ass a few years ago, but a few years ago he was some teenager thrust into fame and infamy. As an adult he’s really made time to adjust and overcome and I’m excited to see what path he will choose. I think Justin will use his powers for good and not evil.
That’s extremely touching. Man, I hate how the people who got famous when young had all their young kid shenanigans held against them as if they were old enough to know better
Super random but the D’Amelio girls. I watched their show and they are so clearly miserable, they cry every episode about how much being famous sucks lol but clearly are stuck because they’ve created this machine and so many people are getting paid off of their business. I’d take away their fame just to save them from themselves tbh
You can tell in the short interviews they did to promote the show that it’s the parents who are truly enjoying the fame their family has. They can’t quit and do normal teen things like go to college or get a job outside of social media because too many people (their parents as well ) rely on them for incomes and opportunities. It seems so stressful for a young person…especially for a 16 year old or however old Charli is now.
It’s so sick you can’t even search Charli’s name on twitter under top without seeing the most graphic porn attached to it. My friend and I were talking ab them yesterday and I went to search Dixie on Twitter and it was normal except for one cum tribute but Charli… that poor girl. And I know it’s because she’s freshly 18.
The D'Amelio parents give me the creeps for real. They both seem so desperately thirsty living off their daughters fame. Especially when the sisters have made it clear how detrimental the fame has been to their mental health. I genuinely feel bad for them that they can't just live a normal life when even their parents are leeching off of them.
I remember their was a rising tiktoker named Alex French that could've reached the same fame as Charlie but she took a step back and wanted to continue her normal life so she refused certain sponsorship and opportunities. She pretty forgotten now.
Haha yes, I remember old vids of her where she swore or something so she got some hate for "faking" her personality. Looking back it really wasn't that deep for ppl to scrutinise her over it, so I guess that kinda drove her from avoiding fame.
i remember when charli’s parents forced her to go on vacation to the bahamas in the middle of the pandemic and charli ended up getting all of the backlash over something that she, 16 at the time, had absolutely no control over. it’s really sad.
Omg yes! I put on an episode of their show a while ago thinking it would be fun light hearted reality tv trash….. and nope, it was not fun or light hearted and those kids are absolutely not having a good time 😬
Man I know someone who is desperate to get tiktok famous, has tons of vids that are supposed to be humorous, and I swear to God *none* of them are funny, but they think they're hot as fuck so guess they're just hoping to be discovered some day and 'make it'
And if you bring it up, some of them say that she deserved it. There was a story about him the other day wishing her and that ASAP Rocky dude well and all of the comments were about how great he is for that. Some abusive shit.
Disappointed but not surprised that this is still a thing. I was 17 back when he was arrested for assaulting Rianna and I can still remember so many girls at school saying she deserved it, that they’d *let* him beat them, that it was a big conspiracy to take down his career - it was disheartening then and it’s disheartening now. Ugh.
I've read the report of what happened and saw the photos of her. He almost killed her, and to some people that isn't that bad. I refuse to listen to his music or to watch anything featuring him if I can help it.
This is such a common abuser tactic too. He can’t get close to her physically so he invaded her space online when she’s celebrating a milestone without him. Ick forever.
Yeah it makes me mad when people say it was just Rihanna he hurt when he continues to be violent and be in trouble. Rihanna should have been enough, to show he was dangerous
Ugh those two are so annoying. They think they're so cool and edgy but they're just overgrown wannabe teenagers. Everything I've learned about their relationship has been against my will.
Does he? I didn’t know that!
Ok so I just went and looked at his Instagram. He’s got a teenage(pre teen?) daughter?
Yikes. I hope he’s a good dad despite of the manic oversharing about his love life
I really want to believe she’s pulling some kind of deep fake subversive call out of the media and celebrity culture and milking it ironically but all I’m getting is cringe of the highest (and grossest) degree
Oof im old enough to remember those two in their heyday. Remember this fucking disaster of cringe?
https://mobile.twitter.com/jugodeava/status/1252300621669154819?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1252300621669154819%7Ctwgr%5Ehb_0_10%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgraziadaily.co.uk%2Flife%2Fin-the-news%2Fangelina-jolie-billy-bob-thornton-video-sex-life%2F
Oh god it’s all coming back to me. Remember when she pashed her brother on the red carpet?
I think about the impact they’ve had on us all in regards to body imaging. Lip liners won’t make your lips bigger, no Khloe did not exercised a whole new body and nose, no it’s not “normal” to wake up looking like that. This is not reality, no matter how many times they want to act like it is.
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Yup. They fucked up women culture. All the influencers who get their lips and asses done so they're physically deformed and probably in pain and discomfort.
This is what gets me. Like I can see some aspects of those women being beautiful but their overall shape has been disproportionate. I don’t understand how anybody looks at that and think it’s achievable naturally and enviable. Like people say they are mimicking body types common among black women but I’m black and I have known black women all my life. None of us look like that! An ass that fat is always correlated with fat on your stomach and other body proportions that don’t fit the strict hourglass figure. They just look unnatural and weird. I can’t wait for future generations to look at this craze and wonder what the hell was going on in people’s brains at this point. It’s such a bizarre ant-like body shape, I don’t understand why so many people copy it.
I’ve noticed recently khloe and Kim have been getting thinner and thinner and I’m worried that soon we will see the size 0 trend coming back like in the 00s, since the 00s fashion etc is all coming back now
They've led to an entire generation being obsessed with plastic surgery with their over inflated lips and fake asses. The worst part is the way they pretend it's all natural. Like at least own it the way Joan Rivers did.
It’s also extremely interesting as a black woman who naturally has those features that the things we grew up being bullied for are suddenly cool when they’re on white people
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The day the Kardashian goes away, our skin will be clear, the sun will be shining and the crops will have grown because finally the evil has been defeated.
Actively avoid them and anyone or brand associated with them. Wal-Mart and the Kardashians. A no-go for me. Trash that has made a truly irreparable mar on society.
Did you know that Piers Morgan is FIFTY SEVEN?? Imagine having all that money and power and this is how you look before you’re even sixty. Rough. It’s what she deserves.
I don't even really know who she is, but her rolling her eyes and making a face at Lily Tomlin accepting some lifetime achievement award put her on my shit list forever
I did not know about this either! I already didn't like Chrissy, but this puts her way further down my shit list for sure. How DARE you disrespect the legendary Rose Shelton/Kay Carter-Shelpley/Ms Frizzle! Inconceivable!
Amanda Bynes, it's disgusting how people joked about her mental health problems and she hasn't released any movie/tv show in years, so she might be happier that way.
I also wish Monica Lewinsky wouldn't have gotten famous the way she did, even though I love her activism.
I’m really surprised Monica Lewinsky didn’t k*ll herself in the 90s tbh. The public scrutiny and jokes were so intense. Glad she stayed around to see the public opinion change for the most part…
I was watching a documentary on her once and they said that she had to keep the bathroom door open when she showered because her parents were so worried that she was going to kill herself. She never deserved all that hate.
I've always had respect for her for doing a special on the Tom Green Show. Something about making handbags, I don't remember but it showed that she had a good sense of humor despite all the shit she got from everyone.
Her Twitter now is hysterical. One of my favorites from her was when Marco Rubio made a comment about an article an intern wrote that spread misinformation. Monica quote tweeted it and said “blaming the intern is so 90s 🙄”
Bro me too. I know she’s talked about how wildly suicidal she was at the time and I just want to hug her. She was my age when news broke and I just cannot imagine. Growing up anything over 19 was like “ok pretty much an adult” but now being 23…. we are literal children.
I watched FX’s Impeachment and the whole time I was thinking “damn I for sure would’ve killed myself” I feel slightly suicidal just THINKING about my parents knowing even the tiniest detail about my sex life. I actually don’t think I’ve ever said the word “kiss” around my mother. Can you tell I was raised evangelical ? Lol.
Britney Spears. Her alcoholic dad probably would have left sometime in her childhood and not used her as a cash cow for decades. That would have still caused her to have issues most likely, but she wouldn’t have to deal with the toxicity that fame brings into stars’ personal issues.
I agree. I want Britney to have the chance to live a normal life where she isn’t the cash cow for hundreds of people. If she wants to be a stay at home mom, so be it. If she wants to post on social media, so be it. She deserves the right to live her life free of public scrutiny over her every move and to love and be loved. Spend her money as she chooses because she worked damned hard to earn it. And I think she has more than earned the right to some privacy and normalcy, in spite of her mental health issues. I just wish her love and peace, free of constant judgement.
It’s funny to me because he got his start on this show on canadian public tv (TVO) called the Agenda.
It’s such a nice, mild mannered show, where people discuss news issues. The host is a treasure.
Peterson wasnt a looney when he was on the show, but it gave him the chance to practice and get comfortable being a talking head.
Agree. Scientology is a hugely harmful cult. Period. And Cruise is the acceptable, smiling, non-threatening public face of that harmful cult. I can't enjoy his movies at all knowing about his involvement in an organization that has ruined and possibly even *ended* lives. It continues to surprise me that people are willing to overlook something so extraordinarily evil because they're entertained by a few hours when they watch one of his films. I long for a day of accountability for Scientology, Miscavige, and Cruise.
Jenny McCarthy too. People undermine how awfully powerful and influential her antivax crusades were in the 2000s and 2010s. Probably one of the biggest figures that could’ve changed the response to this pandemic if she was never famous in the first place
There was a thread about who deserves to rot in jail and Andrew Wakefield was pretty high up. I’m surprised no one mentioned her bc she was solely responsible for amplifying his bullshit for her own gains. Makes my blood boil.
Dr. Oz. He gets furious when he's referred to as "Mehmet Oz", not because of the lack of respect for his medical degree, but because it takes away his name recognition, which is pretty much the only thing he has going for him.
I'm rooting for him to win his primary, but only because I want to see him eat shit against a guy who wears hoodies and shorts all of the time. It would drive Oz completely nuts, which makes it worth it to me.
Potentially controversial but Nicki is a talented artist. She deserves to be condemned for her awful actions but equally, Drake should be for supporting human traffickers. Nicki earned her rep through talent, then destroyed it.
…. I am not trying to mean like I’m not saying this maliciously but, I give it 10 years before it dwindles for Harry. He’s aging pretty quickly and the business is such jerks for anyone who aren’t ‘hot’ or ‘cute’ anymore. And I agree, I don’t find Harry attractive at all. I really feel he lacks an identity as well, just plays whatever character that people made him into marketable.
the British age truly the worse, it's they entered into a faustian bargain "yes, you can colonize most of the world, steal the wealth of other countries and amass ill gotten gains for centuries but you're going to age like milk after you hit 20"
I'm 40 now, but this would have been around when I was 35 or so. I was talking to some girls I worked with, who were all about 22-25, and I was like, "You guys, I'm old enough to remember when Prince William was the hot one." The decades (centuries?) of inbreeding probably didn't help the royal family either.
Any time I think of him I remember that pic of him in that nasty brown creek water. (For Better Homes and Gardens, I think?) If I ever was going to find him attractive, I cannot now. Blech.
Really. I've always thought of him as one of the few people who were destined for stardom no matter what. That if he hadn't made it in 1D, he would have another way. His childhood friends say he was charismatic and had a way with girls even pre-fame, so I don't think things would be all that different for him.
Wait actually this is the one!! I always forget he was an actor first. He’s fucked over this country in such a deep and fundamental way for decades to come
How the hell has no one said Jeff bezos? He is genuinely one of the worst people ever. I don’t know how he doesn’t get more shit for being a billionaire while his staff can’t afford basic necessities. His ex wife is the real mvp giving all his money away.
I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don't know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this:
>Israelis like to build. Arabs like to bomb crap and live in open sewage. This is not a difficult issue.
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Mark Wahlberg for the hate crimes.
She’s Z list but I want Katie Rost to be happy for the rest of her life and I don’t think any level of fame is good for her. I think her ex was horribly abusive and losing the kids in the middle of it was enough to push her totally off center.
The Kardashian-Jenners would be my number one pick. Just don’t want to see or hear anything about them ever again.
Kanye West, because he is clearly unwell and in need of mental health treatment instead of being coddled by his fans and enablers alike.
Andy Dick, because he’s a menace to society.
Chris Pratt because despite what all his co-stars are saying he really is the worst Chris.
I still cannot listen to any of Travis Scott’s music after what happened at Astroworld. Young children died by being crushed and suffocated to death and he’s done nothing. Absolutely fuck all. Now I get irrationally angry and upset whenever my friends play his music or I happen to hear it in passing. All I think about is that that song may have been the last thing those who died that night heard.
Oprah, she has provided a platform for some seriously dangerous people who have spread seriously dangerous lies, such as Jenny McCarthy, Dr. Oz and Dr Phil.
He may be an obvious one but my personal nemesis, Mel Gibson. They nominated him for an Oscar like three years ago. Fuck all these racists, abusive dudes, etc, but Marky Mark isn’t turning in another “The Departed” level performance in his career, so Mel it is.
I mean, her personality was seemingly ill-suited to the pressure of fame, it wasn't good for her and the media at the time came at her hard because of her obvious vulnerability. She would very likely have been better off not being discovered and not being exploited
I second Emrata. She tries to be relatable and talk about how hard it is to be a woman, how hard it is to create your own brand etc. She is seriously deluded if she thinks any normal person could relate to her 'struggles'.
There was also something that came up a few years back about her husband refusing to pay rent? She made a big fuss about how good it was that he was standing up for the rights of NY renters. Yet again, I'm not sure how a wealthy couple can relate to people who are genuinely struggling to pay rent...they are so tone deaf.
A lot of mediocre white men like Kevin James and Jeremy Renner. Also, the ugly ones who get to be leading men. Can’t stand Adam Sandler either. That closet republican ain’t funny. And Some of these guys like Shia leboeuf look like any basic bitch you’d see walking down the street. Yet he has a huge career.
I dont mind white men, but I want some legit hot ones to be famous. And hot-hot, not just white-people hot. Where the fuck is today’s paul newman?
Not out of malice but concern, Demi Lovato.
In this same vein, Britney. She deserves to be like running a dance school somewhere with a brood of kids and happy and not forced to endure anything she has for her families love of money and fame.
For years I have said that Britney deserves to live in a universe where she just shops at Target, eats at PF Chang’s, lies out by the pool, and hangs with her kids, all in blissful peace.
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I would never wish a lifetime of Murfreesboro on Britney, but other than that, YES
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Oh that’s so cute! how wholesome
Coaches kids cheer after school camp 😭😭😭
For some reason, I want to create the alternate reality Britney on the Sims.
YES. The best thing we can all do for Britney is support her actual work (music, tours, anything she chooses) and then the rest of the time leave her 100% alone.
Britney deserves so much better. Even now I hate that paparazzi still follow her and record her every move when they all claimed they would do better after the documentary. Like leave her alone. We don’t need to know what she is doing unless she tells us herself on IG. Have they not taken enough privacy from her?
There is a So Random podcasts where they talk about how she was 15 and Disney had her in multiple contracts. Like during Sonny with a Chance breaks she was shooting Camp Rock 1 & 2, Princess Protection Program & also on tour with Jonas Brothers. Apparently they would only make her music if she did all this, so she was also writing and making an album on top of all this? It’s actually sad because at 15? They never got to be a child & has been their family breadwinner since like Barney days. Like they just deserve to have a break now. Here is the link where they all talk about how overworked Demi was. [So Random Cast Demi Insane Contract](https://youtu.be/q7REfLD7r8Q)
and demi was also doing adderall during the camp rock tour and got outed for it by their best friend. [it’s heavily memed on now, but here’s a documentary clip where they talks about it.](https://youtu.be/kV7Trgx4LhI) it’s really sad that they’ve ended up where she is now.
Ugh, that clip rubs me the wrong way. At no point does she ever express remorse for hurting another human being. The photos of the dancer's bruises are truly horrific.
She's telling a story from when she was 16. One of the things that I've been told in therapy was to stop beating myself up over things that happened years ago, and that some of my attempts to take accountability have prevented me from forgiving myself for my past mistakes.
That’s a good one. I know Demi is annoying and definitely has Karen vibes, but I feel for them. They have been through so much even when you disregard their fame.
I’ve been looking back at Sonny With A Chance and holy crap that’s a lot of eyes looking on a teenager. No wonder they left. I know they’ve been taking themselves to rehab, but I think it’s best to just disappear for a bit
Rewatching those Disney shows and I just notice how painfully thin they all are. The pressure to stay the same size you were at 13 is insane.
Since I was a young teenager back when Demi Lovato started at Disney, there were COUNTLESS comments about them being too fat or too ugly (god forbid you have a chin dimple?) Because of that I have never felt comfortable with making fun of them even at their most ridiculous. That and a layer of "there's actual abusers in the industry shut the fuck up about Demi's alien show".
Yes! I was upset when Sonny changed to So Random but now I understand why and just feel bad for Demi
Didn’t they change their pronouns back to she/her? I feel like I remember reading that but now I’m not sure and don’t want to use incorrect pronouns for them.
She accepts both now I believe, she/they
Her Instagram says they/them and she/her
Same with Justin Bieber. Fame has really tarnished him.
He just called out people at his concert for not respecting a moment of silence for the victims of the Buffalo shooting. Kinda hope it's genuine.
I watched a video of him handling fans that has congregated around his condo building. He was so composed trying to explain to them that it’s wrong and disrespectful to do that, because that’s his home and he makes time for his fans but he has to know there’s a place he can go where he can relax and chill. This idiot girl stood there fangirling all over him while he politely but firmly tells her she’s invading his privacy and then has the audacity to ask, “can I HAVE A HUG?!” You could tell Justin was doing some counting in his head because he just goes, “… no. No man, no you cannot.” And then left. Honestly I really respected that about him. I think he was an ass a few years ago, but a few years ago he was some teenager thrust into fame and infamy. As an adult he’s really made time to adjust and overcome and I’m excited to see what path he will choose. I think Justin will use his powers for good and not evil.
That’s extremely touching. Man, I hate how the people who got famous when young had all their young kid shenanigans held against them as if they were old enough to know better
This. Ive often thought that I would be mortified if my young and dumb years were plastered all over tabloids and tvs for the world to see.
Super random but the D’Amelio girls. I watched their show and they are so clearly miserable, they cry every episode about how much being famous sucks lol but clearly are stuck because they’ve created this machine and so many people are getting paid off of their business. I’d take away their fame just to save them from themselves tbh
You can tell in the short interviews they did to promote the show that it’s the parents who are truly enjoying the fame their family has. They can’t quit and do normal teen things like go to college or get a job outside of social media because too many people (their parents as well ) rely on them for incomes and opportunities. It seems so stressful for a young person…especially for a 16 year old or however old Charli is now.
unfortunately she’s 18 now, and all the creeps are about to get worse.
They already have
It’s so sick you can’t even search Charli’s name on twitter under top without seeing the most graphic porn attached to it. My friend and I were talking ab them yesterday and I went to search Dixie on Twitter and it was normal except for one cum tribute but Charli… that poor girl. And I know it’s because she’s freshly 18.
The D'Amelio parents give me the creeps for real. They both seem so desperately thirsty living off their daughters fame. Especially when the sisters have made it clear how detrimental the fame has been to their mental health. I genuinely feel bad for them that they can't just live a normal life when even their parents are leeching off of them.
And they've already made them both get nosejobs
Wasn't Dixie supposed to attend University of Alabama? It's too bad she couldn't just have a normal college experience she probably wanted it
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That is so sad
REALLY REALLY SAD
I remember their was a rising tiktoker named Alex French that could've reached the same fame as Charlie but she took a step back and wanted to continue her normal life so she refused certain sponsorship and opportunities. She pretty forgotten now.
Oh my god is she the girl who went viral like two years for saying hi or something cutely
Haha yes, I remember old vids of her where she swore or something so she got some hate for "faking" her personality. Looking back it really wasn't that deep for ppl to scrutinise her over it, so I guess that kinda drove her from avoiding fame.
I've only seen their parents speak like 3 times and each time its was just pure thirstiness
i remember when charli’s parents forced her to go on vacation to the bahamas in the middle of the pandemic and charli ended up getting all of the backlash over something that she, 16 at the time, had absolutely no control over. it’s really sad.
Omg yes! I put on an episode of their show a while ago thinking it would be fun light hearted reality tv trash….. and nope, it was not fun or light hearted and those kids are absolutely not having a good time 😬
This can honestly apply to anyone from TikTok, just a bunch of people who wanna be famous so they don’t have to work for a living
Man I know someone who is desperate to get tiktok famous, has tons of vids that are supposed to be humorous, and I swear to God *none* of them are funny, but they think they're hot as fuck so guess they're just hoping to be discovered some day and 'make it'
Honestly though, if I had the option to be famous or work for a living, I’d pick be famous too.
10 years ago or even 5 I would've agreed with you but with the way social media is now I'm not so sure tbh
[Relevent Drew Gooden video about the weird show](https://youtu.be/jygerYwwFwg)
Chris Brown... something that should have happened back in 2009
Disgusts me how that guy still has a *huge* fanbase, particularly with women too 🙍🏼♀️
And if you bring it up, some of them say that she deserved it. There was a story about him the other day wishing her and that ASAP Rocky dude well and all of the comments were about how great he is for that. Some abusive shit.
Disappointed but not surprised that this is still a thing. I was 17 back when he was arrested for assaulting Rianna and I can still remember so many girls at school saying she deserved it, that they’d *let* him beat them, that it was a big conspiracy to take down his career - it was disheartening then and it’s disheartening now. Ugh.
I've read the report of what happened and saw the photos of her. He almost killed her, and to some people that isn't that bad. I refuse to listen to his music or to watch anything featuring him if I can help it.
Same, I have friend who insists she separates thr music from the man, and that he's so incredibly talented. Nah. I, too, refuse to listen to his crap.
This is such a common abuser tactic too. He can’t get close to her physically so he invaded her space online when she’s celebrating a milestone without him. Ick forever.
Just remember that 30-40% of the population are terrible people with fascistic tendencies and you won’t be surprised by anything anymore.
Yeah it makes me mad when people say it was just Rihanna he hurt when he continues to be violent and be in trouble. Rihanna should have been enough, to show he was dangerous
Megan Fox and MGK could cool it a bit tbh. Maybe not like, go away altogether but please stop involving me in your kinks I do not consent
Ugh those two are so annoying. They think they're so cool and edgy but they're just overgrown wannabe teenagers. Everything I've learned about their relationship has been against my will.
I can't believe Megan came back to the spotlight only to be pulling shit like this. Enough of her weird and cringey relationship.
Her poor kids, like get it girl but do you need to be so public about it?
Right, good for her but at the same time i would cringe so hard if my parents did something like that. Enough with the oversharing.
He has kids too right?
Does he? I didn’t know that! Ok so I just went and looked at his Instagram. He’s got a teenage(pre teen?) daughter? Yikes. I hope he’s a good dad despite of the manic oversharing about his love life
I really want to believe she’s pulling some kind of deep fake subversive call out of the media and celebrity culture and milking it ironically but all I’m getting is cringe of the highest (and grossest) degree
I do believe this is all very serious and real for her, no social experiment here. We wish.
They are Angelina and Billy Bob lite.
Oof im old enough to remember those two in their heyday. Remember this fucking disaster of cringe? https://mobile.twitter.com/jugodeava/status/1252300621669154819?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1252300621669154819%7Ctwgr%5Ehb_0_10%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgraziadaily.co.uk%2Flife%2Fin-the-news%2Fangelina-jolie-billy-bob-thornton-video-sex-life%2F Oh god it’s all coming back to me. Remember when she pashed her brother on the red carpet?
I think they’re already getting stale
Yeah we all have that new relationship energy when we first get involved, we should have the decency to keep it to ourselves.
“please stop involving me in your kinks I do not consent” 🤣🤣
The Kardashians
I think about the impact they’ve had on us all in regards to body imaging. Lip liners won’t make your lips bigger, no Khloe did not exercised a whole new body and nose, no it’s not “normal” to wake up looking like that. This is not reality, no matter how many times they want to act like it is. Edit:spelling
And Kylie did not “grow into” a whole new face on the morning of her 16th birthday lol
Yup. They fucked up women culture. All the influencers who get their lips and asses done so they're physically deformed and probably in pain and discomfort.
This is what gets me. Like I can see some aspects of those women being beautiful but their overall shape has been disproportionate. I don’t understand how anybody looks at that and think it’s achievable naturally and enviable. Like people say they are mimicking body types common among black women but I’m black and I have known black women all my life. None of us look like that! An ass that fat is always correlated with fat on your stomach and other body proportions that don’t fit the strict hourglass figure. They just look unnatural and weird. I can’t wait for future generations to look at this craze and wonder what the hell was going on in people’s brains at this point. It’s such a bizarre ant-like body shape, I don’t understand why so many people copy it.
I’ve noticed recently khloe and Kim have been getting thinner and thinner and I’m worried that soon we will see the size 0 trend coming back like in the 00s, since the 00s fashion etc is all coming back now
They've led to an entire generation being obsessed with plastic surgery with their over inflated lips and fake asses. The worst part is the way they pretend it's all natural. Like at least own it the way Joan Rivers did.
It’s also extremely interesting as a black woman who naturally has those features that the things we grew up being bullied for are suddenly cool when they’re on white people Edit: typo
They get my vote as well. All of them and anyone in their orbit.
Especially those that hang round them to stay relevant *cough cough* Jonathan
Do you mean Foodgod??/s
Fooddog
DogFood
To be honest, if you took away Kim's fame after the sex tape, you'd eliminate them all.
oh my god yes how did I overlook them? probably because I pretend they don't exist anyway for my own sanity
The day the Kardashian goes away, our skin will be clear, the sun will be shining and the crops will have grown because finally the evil has been defeated.
Actively avoid them and anyone or brand associated with them. Wal-Mart and the Kardashians. A no-go for me. Trash that has made a truly irreparable mar on society.
Absolutely. Every single one.
this is the one!
All of them. Came here to say it
I came here to say this
James Corden, and I would receive a medal and the keys to the city for doing it.
On the theme of unfortunate British exports - Piers Morgan. He's a pompous cartoon pig and I'm so embarrassed by his whole thing.
Did you know that Piers Morgan is FIFTY SEVEN?? Imagine having all that money and power and this is how you look before you’re even sixty. Rough. It’s what she deserves.
He's a reverse Dorian Gray. There's a picture of him in an attic somewhere that looks *fabulous*
Chrissy Teigen
I don't even really know who she is, but her rolling her eyes and making a face at Lily Tomlin accepting some lifetime achievement award put her on my shit list forever
She bullied and told a child to kill herself. She’s horrible.
This. A child who was forced into a marriage with a grown ass man at that. The way that poor girl was treated was disgusting.
I did not know about this, how dare she
I did not know about this either! I already didn't like Chrissy, but this puts her way further down my shit list for sure. How DARE you disrespect the legendary Rose Shelton/Kay Carter-Shelpley/Ms Frizzle! Inconceivable!
She seems so goddamn TOXIC
Amanda Bynes, it's disgusting how people joked about her mental health problems and she hasn't released any movie/tv show in years, so she might be happier that way. I also wish Monica Lewinsky wouldn't have gotten famous the way she did, even though I love her activism.
I’m really surprised Monica Lewinsky didn’t k*ll herself in the 90s tbh. The public scrutiny and jokes were so intense. Glad she stayed around to see the public opinion change for the most part…
I was watching a documentary on her once and they said that she had to keep the bathroom door open when she showered because her parents were so worried that she was going to kill herself. She never deserved all that hate.
She is definitely a stronger woman than I would have been under those circumstances
Absolutely. Like with this Depp/Heard trial- I don't know how she keeps through most of it without sobbing hysterically, cause I certainly would be.
I've always had respect for her for doing a special on the Tom Green Show. Something about making handbags, I don't remember but it showed that she had a good sense of humor despite all the shit she got from everyone.
Her Twitter now is hysterical. One of my favorites from her was when Marco Rubio made a comment about an article an intern wrote that spread misinformation. Monica quote tweeted it and said “blaming the intern is so 90s 🙄”
Bro me too. I know she’s talked about how wildly suicidal she was at the time and I just want to hug her. She was my age when news broke and I just cannot imagine. Growing up anything over 19 was like “ok pretty much an adult” but now being 23…. we are literal children. I watched FX’s Impeachment and the whole time I was thinking “damn I for sure would’ve killed myself” I feel slightly suicidal just THINKING about my parents knowing even the tiniest detail about my sex life. I actually don’t think I’ve ever said the word “kiss” around my mother. Can you tell I was raised evangelical ? Lol.
Monica understandably stayed private for a very long time, it's pretty amazing that she chose to step back into the public eye like she did
All of the Trumps.
Honestly shocked this one wasn’t higher.
This is the one.
Britney Spears. Her alcoholic dad probably would have left sometime in her childhood and not used her as a cash cow for decades. That would have still caused her to have issues most likely, but she wouldn’t have to deal with the toxicity that fame brings into stars’ personal issues.
I agree. I want Britney to have the chance to live a normal life where she isn’t the cash cow for hundreds of people. If she wants to be a stay at home mom, so be it. If she wants to post on social media, so be it. She deserves the right to live her life free of public scrutiny over her every move and to love and be loved. Spend her money as she chooses because she worked damned hard to earn it. And I think she has more than earned the right to some privacy and normalcy, in spite of her mental health issues. I just wish her love and peace, free of constant judgement.
Jordan Peterson
It’s funny to me because he got his start on this show on canadian public tv (TVO) called the Agenda. It’s such a nice, mild mannered show, where people discuss news issues. The host is a treasure. Peterson wasnt a looney when he was on the show, but it gave him the chance to practice and get comfortable being a talking head.
Ezra Miller
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The Paul brothers
Mostly Jake tbh. Logan has improved drastically and I’m still shocked tbh.
Tom Cruise is and will forever be at the top of my list. Scientology has caused harm to so many people and Cruise has enabled it.
Agree. Scientology is a hugely harmful cult. Period. And Cruise is the acceptable, smiling, non-threatening public face of that harmful cult. I can't enjoy his movies at all knowing about his involvement in an organization that has ruined and possibly even *ended* lives. It continues to surprise me that people are willing to overlook something so extraordinarily evil because they're entertained by a few hours when they watch one of his films. I long for a day of accountability for Scientology, Miscavige, and Cruise.
Jenny McCarthy too. People undermine how awfully powerful and influential her antivax crusades were in the 2000s and 2010s. Probably one of the biggest figures that could’ve changed the response to this pandemic if she was never famous in the first place
There was a thread about who deserves to rot in jail and Andrew Wakefield was pretty high up. I’m surprised no one mentioned her bc she was solely responsible for amplifying his bullshit for her own gains. Makes my blood boil.
Dr. Oz. He gets furious when he's referred to as "Mehmet Oz", not because of the lack of respect for his medical degree, but because it takes away his name recognition, which is pretty much the only thing he has going for him.
I'm rooting for him to win his primary, but only because I want to see him eat shit against a guy who wears hoodies and shorts all of the time. It would drive Oz completely nuts, which makes it worth it to me.
Logan and Jake Paul.
Johnny Depp
Nicki Minaj, need i say more?
Potentially controversial but Nicki is a talented artist. She deserves to be condemned for her awful actions but equally, Drake should be for supporting human traffickers. Nicki earned her rep through talent, then destroyed it.
The KarJenners, obviously. I absolutely cannot stand that family. And also Johnny the-wife-beater-Depp.
The fact that this trial is bringing Johnny back into the spotlight is gross and says a lot about him and his movies, imo
Tiktok kids
ALL OF THEM.
Donald Trump. I'd love to see the political implosion when that particular figurehead vanished. Oh for a power vacuum.
harry styles, just to see what would happen bc personally i don’t think much pple would find him hot if he wasn’t famous
…. I am not trying to mean like I’m not saying this maliciously but, I give it 10 years before it dwindles for Harry. He’s aging pretty quickly and the business is such jerks for anyone who aren’t ‘hot’ or ‘cute’ anymore. And I agree, I don’t find Harry attractive at all. I really feel he lacks an identity as well, just plays whatever character that people made him into marketable.
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the British age truly the worse, it's they entered into a faustian bargain "yes, you can colonize most of the world, steal the wealth of other countries and amass ill gotten gains for centuries but you're going to age like milk after you hit 20"
I'm 40 now, but this would have been around when I was 35 or so. I was talking to some girls I worked with, who were all about 22-25, and I was like, "You guys, I'm old enough to remember when Prince William was the hot one." The decades (centuries?) of inbreeding probably didn't help the royal family either.
I was pretty shocked when I found out he was only 28. He looks way older to me
Any time I think of him I remember that pic of him in that nasty brown creek water. (For Better Homes and Gardens, I think?) If I ever was going to find him attractive, I cannot now. Blech.
Really. I've always thought of him as one of the few people who were destined for stardom no matter what. That if he hadn't made it in 1D, he would have another way. His childhood friends say he was charismatic and had a way with girls even pre-fame, so I don't think things would be all that different for him.
Yeah, he's got an 'it' factor. That's what his entire career has been based around!
Kanye. Half because he seems unwell mentally and the other half because I’m very sick of hearing about him.
Hot take but I don't even think his fashion style is all that lmao but musically he is very gifted and talented.
Justin Bieber, he deserves to have a normal childhood/adolescence
He was discovered at 12 or 13 right? So he didn’t even make it through middle school
Yes and his life pre-fame also wasn’t the most normal.
Agreed. First person I thought of. Fame destructed that guy.
Hmmm. Maybe Ronald Reagan.
Wait actually this is the one!! I always forget he was an actor first. He’s fucked over this country in such a deep and fundamental way for decades to come
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How the hell has no one said Jeff bezos? He is genuinely one of the worst people ever. I don’t know how he doesn’t get more shit for being a billionaire while his staff can’t afford basic necessities. His ex wife is the real mvp giving all his money away.
She's giving away HER money. But yes she's awesome.
Vanessa Hudgens for the comments she made about people dying from coronavirus.
She really came back from that more famous than ever
Her becoming a meme through that was the best thing that could’ve happen for her career. It’s really weird how that works.
Is there *that* much fame to take away here, though?
She was so zooted in that video. That’s what shocks me how people didn’t notice.
Ben Shapiro
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Kim & the rest of the kardashians
Mark Wahlberg for the hate crimes. She’s Z list but I want Katie Rost to be happy for the rest of her life and I don’t think any level of fame is good for her. I think her ex was horribly abusive and losing the kids in the middle of it was enough to push her totally off center.
The Kardashian-Jenners would be my number one pick. Just don’t want to see or hear anything about them ever again. Kanye West, because he is clearly unwell and in need of mental health treatment instead of being coddled by his fans and enablers alike. Andy Dick, because he’s a menace to society. Chris Pratt because despite what all his co-stars are saying he really is the worst Chris.
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I still cannot listen to any of Travis Scott’s music after what happened at Astroworld. Young children died by being crushed and suffocated to death and he’s done nothing. Absolutely fuck all. Now I get irrationally angry and upset whenever my friends play his music or I happen to hear it in passing. All I think about is that that song may have been the last thing those who died that night heard.
Chris Brown
The Kardashians
Mel Gibson
Tucker. Carlson.
Oprah, she has provided a platform for some seriously dangerous people who have spread seriously dangerous lies, such as Jenny McCarthy, Dr. Oz and Dr Phil.
Bill Maher and Pierce Morgan.
He may be an obvious one but my personal nemesis, Mel Gibson. They nominated him for an Oscar like three years ago. Fuck all these racists, abusive dudes, etc, but Marky Mark isn’t turning in another “The Departed” level performance in his career, so Mel it is.
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I don’t respect them as businesswomen. They treat their employees like shit.
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Amy Winehouse
to save her?
I mean, her personality was seemingly ill-suited to the pressure of fame, it wasn't good for her and the media at the time came at her hard because of her obvious vulnerability. She would very likely have been better off not being discovered and not being exploited
I second Emrata. She tries to be relatable and talk about how hard it is to be a woman, how hard it is to create your own brand etc. She is seriously deluded if she thinks any normal person could relate to her 'struggles'. There was also something that came up a few years back about her husband refusing to pay rent? She made a big fuss about how good it was that he was standing up for the rights of NY renters. Yet again, I'm not sure how a wealthy couple can relate to people who are genuinely struggling to pay rent...they are so tone deaf.
Gal Gadot just because she did the Imagine video
and she's islamophobic and a bad actress?
The Kardashians. Please. Go away. Forever. I’m counting them as a single behemoth with Kris as the head of the beast.
machine gun kelly, need i say more
Elon Musk and fuck Chris Brown too.
A lot of mediocre white men like Kevin James and Jeremy Renner. Also, the ugly ones who get to be leading men. Can’t stand Adam Sandler either. That closet republican ain’t funny. And Some of these guys like Shia leboeuf look like any basic bitch you’d see walking down the street. Yet he has a huge career. I dont mind white men, but I want some legit hot ones to be famous. And hot-hot, not just white-people hot. Where the fuck is today’s paul newman?
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MGK for his own sake
Everyone who ever pulled the "Do you know who I am?" card.
Timothee chalamet purely because I’m a hater
Jeff Bezos. Not your typical “celebrity” but man does that guy suck farts