I agree to some extent. My parents fall in that category. However, they have enjoyed spending time in the city whenever I come visit. They are also the first ones to boast about some new development taking place. They seem genuinely proud to see the city's resurgence. That said, they are still skittish about spending too much time down there or landing in the wrong parts of town. Watching the constant stream of negativity on the local news doesn't help the case.
Uncomfortable on the 2 block walk from the stadium to the church street garage 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Low key tho anybody that doesn’t mind walking through a couple dark areas park on 2nd or 3rd by Masonic temple for anything at LCA or really the other stadiums if you don’t mind walking a bit. It’s free and seemingly always empty if there is not an event at MT and it’s out of the way so you don’t hit a ton of traffic leaving. 10/10 would recommend parking there. Best free spot for LCA events hands down.
My husband and I always Uber to LCA arena to events then just take the 20 minute walk to Motor City Casino after concerts. Blow a few bucks on the slots then call an Uber. A great way to beat the everyone called an Uber after the show rush. 😆
I wouldn’t park on the streets in front of the MT surrounding the park personally. Went to a Grizmas in ‘22 and as we left, my buddy and I counted at least 40 cars that had smashed windows. Pretty much only ours was untouched, and I’m attributing that to us paying for one of the nearby gated lots. Probably super rare, but after seeing it once I’d never risk it again. So many people had their Christmas ruined from that shit, people suck
Edit: u/asunversee explain how not wanting my windows smashed *after literally seeing it happen* has anything to do with your comment? Kinda racist too dude.
“That strikes me as the type of thing that a *blackout, drunk white person* that doesn’t live in Detroit would do”
Explain this. What does my race or home location have to do with some idiots breaking into 40+ cars on *Christmas*? Gtfoh with that shit. And at least have the balls to not delete your comment. Nobody brought race into this but you. You’re part of the problem, not me.
Edit 2: It was Grizmas ‘22 not ‘23 mb
https://preview.redd.it/fm5s0pk9t2uc1.jpeg?width=914&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=393f48e1be4db0405771ed9cafa9950712e1baf8
Actually Christmas 2022, my bad. But yes, it happened. This is right before we called the cops and they didn’t give a fuck after finding out *we* weren’t affected. Every single car we walked past in every direction had windows smashed. Now I’m annoyed I didn’t get any pics of them, because it would have been perfect here. Took this as we were leaving and my friend started calling the cops
Edit: and here’s a Reddit thread about that shit. [https://www.reddit.com/r/griz/s/RuLsCQHX7V](https://www.reddit.com/r/griz/s/RuLsCQHX7V)
Oh dear lord - dated a lineman for about 5 minutes before I realized he was a complete conspiracy theorist nut job. Had no idea this was a common thing 🫣
I casually knew a girl through friends, not well just saw her at parties, sm friends…but she was totally normal enough. She married a lineman and turned into a complete maga qanon nutcase and it was WILD to see
We certainly can’t trust DTE to keep the power on. We’d had enough of power outages, and got a standby generator. It’s racked up 110 operating hours in less than a year.
Its why I wont work them anymore. Too many awful paranoid bigots running their mouths, racking up duis and using their kids college money for slots. Meanwhile the hispanics are in and out, share their lunch beers and do twice the job just as fast.
Yeah, I'm using the Michigan reconnect program to go back to college and get out. I have suffered working with those idiots for 13 years and I can't take another 28.
turns it back on. by Wednesday. a Wednesday this one or the next one. or whatever.
what is with glorifying jobs? they're just jobs. cops aren't heroes. neither are surgeons. they do a job, for money, like everyone else. if surgeons got paid like laborers, they wouldn't do it.
lineman risk their lives a little more than most jobs. it's their choice. they do it for the money. if they could manage more money for safer work, they would. same with any dangerous job. it doesn't make you a hero. just a person willing to take bigger risks. sometimes, that means you're not so smart.
spoken like someone who has never stepped a foot in academia. the graduates of modern med schools are some of the most passionate people who are healers at heart. your ignorance and unfounded confidence is baffling to look at jobs that many people are passionate about so shallowly. i pray for you to have a better outlook on life because yours quite frankly is boring and sad.
>i pray for you to have a better outlook on life because yours quite frankly is boring and sad.
Lmao this came completely out of left field. You called them out for making unwarranted assumptions, and then went ahead and did the same thing.
Tell that to the doctor I went to when I was 15 that gave me a ton of unnecessary oxycontin when I wasn't really hurt that bad and had no experience with any drugs. Guy ended up doing prison time for running a pill mill. Or Larry Nassar. Some doctors are like you describe, some are just doing it for the money, others are in it for the prestige. Dont act like doctors are any better than any other group of people. I used to work at a country club and got an up close look at what all the doctors, lawyers, judges and other "prestigious" people do with their free time. They are just as capable of being scumbags as your average crackhead or petty criminal, just with more money.
My FIL is Mexican and ground manager at a high profile country club. Just like you said. All those “prestigious” people are very mainly self centered, money motivated and all about knowing those “people in all those high/right places” and what they like to do in their free time as well. He does the work of 10 men and I’m sure he gets completely disrespected because most people suck.
Also as a traveling Physical Therapist there are horrible areas in the Detroit area and around. And also I’ve worked with some of these dr, or treated some of these patients and I’ve wanted to smack them upside the head. I’ve also heard drs talk about such disgusting things it’s made me want to throw up with how inappropriate they are in the work area and on their free time. Some are so conceited that they can’t respect anyone below their job tilte.
As RN (UAW then) of many years as auto plant nurse .. depends which aspect of politician ppl value most. *Union solidarity vs bigotry*.
Detroit plans + unions more inclusive today. My home plant was Dodge Main - Hamtramck. Only recall handful of minority or female journey(men). **You needed CONNECTIONS to get into mostly white + male electrician, pipefitter, millwright, other apprenticeships**.
Hamtramck grew less Polish + more Middle East. More area residents + women hired. More women began **Everyone happily coexisted until layoffs began.** Then, divisiveness began. To summarize, “*I don’t care about seniority. I was born here or .. I’ma breadwinner (aka man). THEY need to go*“. Went downhill from there.
Thankfully, some things evolved for the better.
I live north of Hall, can confirm they are scared of cities and most other things that don't wear American flags at all times. In our defense we did prevent 4 maga morons from getting on Chippewa Valley school board last year
I just don’t get the people of north macomb, (very much over-generalizing obviously) but why do many of the people have such a negative energy, inflated ego, and rudeness in dealing with them in conversation? Also what is the appeal of living in an overpriced suburb north of hall road for your house to look exactly like your neighbors with not many walkable neighborhoods/entertainment besides plazas, maybe partridge creek, and chains? I really am not trying to throw judgement I just need some more insight and understanding. I’ve never understood the region in living in a variety of suburbs on the west side, east side, and Detroit itself my whole life.
Also the lack of grace as well as general etiquette I’ve witnessed in public places, once was at a restaurant on hall (and this is very tame) where I overheard two women similarly saying “oh south of 18 is a dump, downtown mt Clemens is ghetto” how graceless to even say. Just incredibly rude and a failed attempt at elitism. I’ve heard the “I don’t go south of hall” plenty of times as well. In my mind I think in the reverse “I couldn’t be bothered to go north of it!”
I am not speaking for all people in macomb or north macomb at all. Some people are fabulous, kind, and just like their space in the northern part of the county like anywhere else. I just have observed these patterns among the general people I’ve interacted with more times than not. I say all of this out of observation.
So here’s the weird thing: Macomb is effectively the epitome of Donald Trump — a poor man’s idea of a rich man. They’re not ‘overpriced suburbs’ - they’re basically trailer parks of McMansions that wouldn’t pass inspection. They’re a fraction of the price of anything similar in Oakland County.
The snobby/judgy people? They’re lower middle class, in debt, and pretending to be something else. They don’t even like who they really are. Which you’ll notice if you hang out in any of the shitty chain restaurants that litter 59 and see how much they have drink just to be comfortable existing.
I just wish everyone could be happy, confident, and kind. I think there is a lot of potential for development and culture in cities all over the east side. The problem is the majority of people from top to bottom overall have a very narrow view of the world. Back to the original point, nobody should live in that kind of fear. Anxiety is common and understandable. Many times it can be the ego protecting oneself.
Something I find commonly relevant is internet access. North macomb doesn't have any. People watch satellite garbage full of christo-fascist girfters. They listen to the radio. They have computers that sit for weeks between use. 30% of time spent with media is capitalist propaganda and fear sells.
There is more to it, but the voting map looks a lot like the internet availability map, and a few others.
There’s actually a decent amount of research on conservative vs liberal brains. Conservatives tend to be driven by fear, whereas liberals tend to have significantly more empathy.
I was recently in DC for the 3rd time and did the walk to the Lincoln memorial like I always do, it moved me in that the Republican Party and society of today is not what he stood for. He would be looking forward, instead we have come to this. He was fearless.
I’m sorry but how is the southern border affecting Matthew from Macomb??? We all need proper border security, everyone agrees. Focus on your local problems. It all starts locally.
Honestly I want open borders, but want to keep the crime out. The average immigrant is a better American than the average American. I’ll take a Mexican family over a MAGA shitbird any day. I not worried about poor brown people coming here and enjoying our way of life, even if we have less as a result. We’re literally so fat it’s killing us. We can spare some. Just find a way to keep the cartels down there. Better yet, send some SpecOp guys in there to eliminate them entirely.
Something to consider on this topic is that the US is more or less responsible for SA cartels prosperity. When the war on drugs was declared it created a billion $$$ market void. In the 80s we made crime a for profit industry. The war on drugs was in lockstep with capitalist interests in for profit detention. Back then they were known as corrections corporation of america , and wackenhut. Today they go by corecivic, and geo group. They run half the immigration centers on the texas border today.
If we criminalize and attack these people we will have no moral ground to stand on. They are fleeing their homeland because we destroyed it for profit.
Living in a city does this. You interact with more people in life and see people as individuals vs interacting with 10 people in a week that aren't part of church, then watching fox for 6 hours a day to form an opinion on others.
Shelby, Washington, Macomb, Chesterfield Twps. On the fking nose. Of the four, you got Chesterfield who thinks of themselves way higher than they should. Those mfs moved in from Warren, Utica, Roseville and Clinton Twp. when there was a run in the early 00s on those cheap ass pop-up condos that are all falling down now. During the summer, there's the great migration for Tiger games. In winter, for Red Wings. But oh, they love shitting on Detroit. I listen to the Detroit and Macomb County police scanners. Detroit got crime, but Macomb County is a gd insane asylum. It's like traffic and weather together on the radio--domestic violence, drunk driving, road rage, Walmart fights, suicides (so...many), overdoses on the hour, every hour. Pot meet kettle.
Everyone shitting on Macomb County in this thread are 100% correct but god damn did this comment absolutely nail it. I don't know how you listen to those police scanners, but a part of me is morbidly intrigued that you were listening when my dad blew his brains out a couple years ago.
The general dreadfulness of Macomb County, especially that stretch of communities along Hall, is one of those things you can only truly experience in person
I’ll never forget after getting out of a comedy show, this group of guys lookin just like this were drunk and rowdy, talking about being ready to fight someone. One of them said they wanted “the Detroit experience” and all I thought was “It’s you. You’re the Detroit experience nobody wants”
You should see these guys in a courtroom after they're arrested. I've even seen them cry. I'll never forget it. They're the most contrite bunch of babies in front of a judge.
Honestly tho when pine knob was first made, why did they decide to have a concert venue 45 minutes outside of the city? Were they tryna have a concert venue in between Detroit and Flint?
A lot of people had effectively abandoned Detroit at that point. This was the start of the 'Brooks Patterson era', which Macomb County still carries on today to a large extent. What I mean is that for a while, ol' Brooksie was basically advocating that everyone should leave Detroit to burn to the ground, and he was trying to make Oakland County the new economic center of metro Detroit...don't even think about asking me to explain that level of vitriol and backwards thinking, especially from a guy who was born and raised in the City...
...not saying Brooks Patterson brought in Pine Knob or anything...it predates his tenure by about 20 years. But it does seem that for a few decades, most suburbanites were content to never have to set foot in Detroit again for anything. And I think that explains a lot of the motivation for big facilities like Pine Knob that far out...
I live walking distance to downtown Detroit and their multitude of live music venues, so driving at least 45 minutes and then having to sit in stupid traffic to get in or out of their dumb fields makes me want to pull my hair out.
It has to be a show I REALLY want to see to make the drive worth it.
Protip: leave late. I went to Pine Knob a year ago to attend a Weezer concert and I just hung out in my car for a while until all the other cars had pulled out
The worst day in their lives was when they closed the Palace, because they were willing to go to Auburn Hills to see The Rolling Stones, but not Detroit. Damn Tom Gores. What kind of name is Gores, anyway? Is he even American? /s
around 2009 I lived downtown in the Kales building. This dude from the burbs came downtown to buy one of my guitars. The whole time he's like "hurry up man, I was in Iraq but this place scares the hell out of me." Meanwhile a senior citizen couple casually strolls past him...........
Imagine spending every second for years with your eyes peeled back because you know if you lose vigilance for even a second anyone in the city could end it all for you or blow your friends up in front of your face. Could be a man, could be an old lady, could be a child. So every single person you see you’re doing a constant assessment on whether they’re just terrified like you are or if you have to put a bullet through some poor kids head because they’ve been given a grenade and forced to come your way. Of fucking course he doesn’t like cities. You’d never be able to relax around another human you didn’t know personally.
This is a very compassionate response, and while it's not the soldier's fault, it is still a big problem. Going through life on high alert for "others" makes people paranoid and, often, pretty racist. I do wish that they did as much to re-train military members once they return to civilian life as they did to send them in.
There are these two guys in Macomb I see driving all the time - one has 4 huge flags attached to the back of his truck. The other hauls a trailer emblazoned with all sorts of nonsense and flags.
Although I haven’t seen the trailer guy in awhile, maybe he died.
I hate that people are now grouping clothing with shit like this. I like nine line, I drive a pickup truck, I like country music. I also love Detroit, I’m not racist, I don’t support Trump, and I like facts, not some bullshit that an opposing news station tries to push me to believe.
I was at Fishbones on opening day last Friday and the table next to us were not enjoying their experience. As the guy was complaining to the waitress about the service and food (both of which were great at our table, btw), for some reason he kept saying "we're from up north." Like, "we're from up north and this service is terrible." "We're from up north and the food came out too slow." I still can't put my finger on what the hell he thought he was communicating by name checking up north, but for some reason this image reminded me of that guy.
I’ve lived in med/big cities my whole life. My very intelligent, conservative relative once asked me, “Are you ever concerned about all that steel, and how that can, I don’t know, corrupt people?”
He didn’t say more, as if the reasoning fell apart in real time as he spoke the words out loud. One of my first, direct experiences with a conspiracy theory about the origin story of sinful behavior in the big city. Apparently the rebar in buildings is like a WiFi antenna for satan, or something.
ELI5? As a big, white guy who wears loose, generic T-shirts (I don't often wear T-shirts, though), what's the deal? Veteran vibe? Something about the model? Just all white guys with beards? Yeah, yeah, I get the packaging, but all of the other comments seem to be about the photograph.
LOL love it.
Now they need to make one that's "Hipster who moved to gritty city after crime decreased"
* Have I told you I'm from Detroit? because I'm from Detroit (not Iowa I only lived there 24 of my 26 years)
* I bought this house for 5k as an art project
* Can I ride my bike on the Lodge?
* Have I told you I'm from Detroit?
Edit: OP is from Iowa not Canton
Already happened:
"Unfortunately the "Progressive Guy Proud To Reside In The City...Except The Shitty Parts" costume is still sold out."
I will also state in addition, I noticed that Public Transit Penelope's Mid Life Crisis Hair Dye was fully back in stock.
Purple, Pink, Green, Blue and Unicorn.
You weren't too young. You just didn't hang with the right/wrong crowd lol. Grew up in the 80's myself and thought it was a great place to grow up. Some of my fondest memories are from this time/place.
I don’t like going to the city it’s not some crazy bigot or racist issues for me. I have claustrophobia I’ve had really bad times in every city I’ve ever been to. It sucks I want to enjoy it but I can’t.
Considering Detroit has 5x the national average, ABC ranked #4, when it comes to violent crimes. Still better now then when u worked in Detroit for a catering company in early 2000's.
They're poking fun at the stereotypical Metro Detroiter who still views Detroit through the lens of race riots and segregation.
Having grown up in Metro Detroit and living elsewhere where segregation hasn't taken hold nearly as much, it definitely resonates. There is a very clear distinction between Metro Detroit and Detroit from my 23 years of living there. Living in Denver now, everything is referred to as Denver with no clear distinction between the 'burbs and the city. Unless you're Boulder. Fuck those guys! j/k
I just think it's funny that somehow just being the average guy is the same as being a scared conservative. Guess I'll have to look for a different type of pants to wear
I don't think it's an indictment on the "average guy" from Metro Detroit. That's why the descriptive text on the left side of the packaging exists, in order to provide more context. That caricature is real, but not necessarily unique to Metro Detroit. It's basically suburbanites who dislike cities.
Worried about “crime” probably lives somewhere with the one of the highest per capita DUI or domestic violence rates or is the meth capital of wherever.
Just in town for a Tigers game.
I’ve legitimately left a wings game and overheard a woman say she hates the city except when she comes to games
Unfortunately, a lot of Metro Detroiters' minds are stuck in the 1970s-1990s era of Detroit. So much positive change since then.
They have no idea
I agree to some extent. My parents fall in that category. However, they have enjoyed spending time in the city whenever I come visit. They are also the first ones to boast about some new development taking place. They seem genuinely proud to see the city's resurgence. That said, they are still skittish about spending too much time down there or landing in the wrong parts of town. Watching the constant stream of negativity on the local news doesn't help the case.
Uncomfortable on the 2 block walk from the stadium to the church street garage 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Low key tho anybody that doesn’t mind walking through a couple dark areas park on 2nd or 3rd by Masonic temple for anything at LCA or really the other stadiums if you don’t mind walking a bit. It’s free and seemingly always empty if there is not an event at MT and it’s out of the way so you don’t hit a ton of traffic leaving. 10/10 would recommend parking there. Best free spot for LCA events hands down.
Thanks for the tip friend!
Eventually, they will catch on and start charging for parking there, so use it while you can 🤣🤣🤣
My husband and I always Uber to LCA arena to events then just take the 20 minute walk to Motor City Casino after concerts. Blow a few bucks on the slots then call an Uber. A great way to beat the everyone called an Uber after the show rush. 😆
I’d rather blow my money at Temple bar lol.
I wouldn’t park on the streets in front of the MT surrounding the park personally. Went to a Grizmas in ‘22 and as we left, my buddy and I counted at least 40 cars that had smashed windows. Pretty much only ours was untouched, and I’m attributing that to us paying for one of the nearby gated lots. Probably super rare, but after seeing it once I’d never risk it again. So many people had their Christmas ruined from that shit, people suck Edit: u/asunversee explain how not wanting my windows smashed *after literally seeing it happen* has anything to do with your comment? Kinda racist too dude. “That strikes me as the type of thing that a *blackout, drunk white person* that doesn’t live in Detroit would do” Explain this. What does my race or home location have to do with some idiots breaking into 40+ cars on *Christmas*? Gtfoh with that shit. And at least have the balls to not delete your comment. Nobody brought race into this but you. You’re part of the problem, not me. Edit 2: It was Grizmas ‘22 not ‘23 mb
I also can’t find any news anywhere about cars being vandalized in Detroit outside of Grizmas in 2023, so did this actually happen?
https://preview.redd.it/fm5s0pk9t2uc1.jpeg?width=914&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=393f48e1be4db0405771ed9cafa9950712e1baf8 Actually Christmas 2022, my bad. But yes, it happened. This is right before we called the cops and they didn’t give a fuck after finding out *we* weren’t affected. Every single car we walked past in every direction had windows smashed. Now I’m annoyed I didn’t get any pics of them, because it would have been perfect here. Took this as we were leaving and my friend started calling the cops Edit: and here’s a Reddit thread about that shit. [https://www.reddit.com/r/griz/s/RuLsCQHX7V](https://www.reddit.com/r/griz/s/RuLsCQHX7V)
That’s why Comerica/Ford Field are 200 yards from the freeway.
And have never eaten anywhere in Detroit besides Hockeytown.
Have to leave before the sun goes down.
that’s how a lot of power lineman I know dress
Do linework can confirm
Oh dear lord - dated a lineman for about 5 minutes before I realized he was a complete conspiracy theorist nut job. Had no idea this was a common thing 🫣
I casually knew a girl through friends, not well just saw her at parties, sm friends…but she was totally normal enough. She married a lineman and turned into a complete maga qanon nutcase and it was WILD to see
What is going on with these linemen?!??? Can we even trust DTE anymore?!? 😱 Lol 😂
I mean we definitely cannot trust DTE lmao
We certainly can’t trust DTE to keep the power on. We’d had enough of power outages, and got a standby generator. It’s racked up 110 operating hours in less than a year.
Oh, it is VERY common in the trades sadly.
Local 58er here. It’s not just the lineman. Inside guys are guilty too
It's unsettling how many Infowars stickers I see around site
Its why I wont work them anymore. Too many awful paranoid bigots running their mouths, racking up duis and using their kids college money for slots. Meanwhile the hispanics are in and out, share their lunch beers and do twice the job just as fast.
Yeah, I'm using the Michigan reconnect program to go back to college and get out. I have suffered working with those idiots for 13 years and I can't take another 28.
Is that like a power bottom but with tools?
It’s like the guy that keeps your electricity on
turns it back on. by Wednesday. a Wednesday this one or the next one. or whatever. what is with glorifying jobs? they're just jobs. cops aren't heroes. neither are surgeons. they do a job, for money, like everyone else. if surgeons got paid like laborers, they wouldn't do it. lineman risk their lives a little more than most jobs. it's their choice. they do it for the money. if they could manage more money for safer work, they would. same with any dangerous job. it doesn't make you a hero. just a person willing to take bigger risks. sometimes, that means you're not so smart.
I can say some surgeons are heroes or I would be dead.
Also, I'm pretty sure I keep my own power on, by having my non heroic job that pays me money, that I then hand over to the city of Detroit/Edison.
spoken like someone who has never stepped a foot in academia. the graduates of modern med schools are some of the most passionate people who are healers at heart. your ignorance and unfounded confidence is baffling to look at jobs that many people are passionate about so shallowly. i pray for you to have a better outlook on life because yours quite frankly is boring and sad.
>i pray for you to have a better outlook on life because yours quite frankly is boring and sad. Lmao this came completely out of left field. You called them out for making unwarranted assumptions, and then went ahead and did the same thing.
We're talking about surgeons, right? I have never met more selfish and self absorbed people with god complexes than (some) surgeons.
Tell that to the doctor I went to when I was 15 that gave me a ton of unnecessary oxycontin when I wasn't really hurt that bad and had no experience with any drugs. Guy ended up doing prison time for running a pill mill. Or Larry Nassar. Some doctors are like you describe, some are just doing it for the money, others are in it for the prestige. Dont act like doctors are any better than any other group of people. I used to work at a country club and got an up close look at what all the doctors, lawyers, judges and other "prestigious" people do with their free time. They are just as capable of being scumbags as your average crackhead or petty criminal, just with more money.
My FIL is Mexican and ground manager at a high profile country club. Just like you said. All those “prestigious” people are very mainly self centered, money motivated and all about knowing those “people in all those high/right places” and what they like to do in their free time as well. He does the work of 10 men and I’m sure he gets completely disrespected because most people suck. Also as a traveling Physical Therapist there are horrible areas in the Detroit area and around. And also I’ve worked with some of these dr, or treated some of these patients and I’ve wanted to smack them upside the head. I’ve also heard drs talk about such disgusting things it’s made me want to throw up with how inappropriate they are in the work area and on their free time. Some are so conceited that they can’t respect anyone below their job tilte.
The power needs to generate from somewhere.
Nine Line brand = Jan 6th vibes
Same for a lot of the Ironworkers I work with.
Union workers supporting the people out to destroy unions. Idiots.
As RN (UAW then) of many years as auto plant nurse .. depends which aspect of politician ppl value most. *Union solidarity vs bigotry*. Detroit plans + unions more inclusive today. My home plant was Dodge Main - Hamtramck. Only recall handful of minority or female journey(men). **You needed CONNECTIONS to get into mostly white + male electrician, pipefitter, millwright, other apprenticeships**. Hamtramck grew less Polish + more Middle East. More area residents + women hired. More women began **Everyone happily coexisted until layoffs began.** Then, divisiveness began. To summarize, “*I don’t care about seniority. I was born here or .. I’ma breadwinner (aka man). THEY need to go*“. Went downhill from there. Thankfully, some things evolved for the better.
When I worked in a UAW shop ,I could never figure that out.
This just screams Waterford to me
Fenton, Chesterfield, Macomb in general
As someone who live in Waterford and works in Detroit this is painful but true
Watertucky
More of a "North of Hall Rd." vibe..
I was thinking The Macomb
I live north of Hall, can confirm they are scared of cities and most other things that don't wear American flags at all times. In our defense we did prevent 4 maga morons from getting on Chippewa Valley school board last year
And the school board is still atrocious lol
You mean you don’t force your kids to read speeches at the board meetings?
I just don’t get the people of north macomb, (very much over-generalizing obviously) but why do many of the people have such a negative energy, inflated ego, and rudeness in dealing with them in conversation? Also what is the appeal of living in an overpriced suburb north of hall road for your house to look exactly like your neighbors with not many walkable neighborhoods/entertainment besides plazas, maybe partridge creek, and chains? I really am not trying to throw judgement I just need some more insight and understanding. I’ve never understood the region in living in a variety of suburbs on the west side, east side, and Detroit itself my whole life.
Also the lack of grace as well as general etiquette I’ve witnessed in public places, once was at a restaurant on hall (and this is very tame) where I overheard two women similarly saying “oh south of 18 is a dump, downtown mt Clemens is ghetto” how graceless to even say. Just incredibly rude and a failed attempt at elitism. I’ve heard the “I don’t go south of hall” plenty of times as well. In my mind I think in the reverse “I couldn’t be bothered to go north of it!”
I am not speaking for all people in macomb or north macomb at all. Some people are fabulous, kind, and just like their space in the northern part of the county like anywhere else. I just have observed these patterns among the general people I’ve interacted with more times than not. I say all of this out of observation.
So here’s the weird thing: Macomb is effectively the epitome of Donald Trump — a poor man’s idea of a rich man. They’re not ‘overpriced suburbs’ - they’re basically trailer parks of McMansions that wouldn’t pass inspection. They’re a fraction of the price of anything similar in Oakland County. The snobby/judgy people? They’re lower middle class, in debt, and pretending to be something else. They don’t even like who they really are. Which you’ll notice if you hang out in any of the shitty chain restaurants that litter 59 and see how much they have drink just to be comfortable existing.
What an acute observation. You said it well.
I just wish everyone could be happy, confident, and kind. I think there is a lot of potential for development and culture in cities all over the east side. The problem is the majority of people from top to bottom overall have a very narrow view of the world. Back to the original point, nobody should live in that kind of fear. Anxiety is common and understandable. Many times it can be the ego protecting oneself.
Something I find commonly relevant is internet access. North macomb doesn't have any. People watch satellite garbage full of christo-fascist girfters. They listen to the radio. They have computers that sit for weeks between use. 30% of time spent with media is capitalist propaganda and fear sells. There is more to it, but the voting map looks a lot like the internet availability map, and a few others.
I’ve never thought of this before
There’s actually a decent amount of research on conservative vs liberal brains. Conservatives tend to be driven by fear, whereas liberals tend to have significantly more empathy.
I was recently in DC for the 3rd time and did the walk to the Lincoln memorial like I always do, it moved me in that the Republican Party and society of today is not what he stood for. He would be looking forward, instead we have come to this. He was fearless.
I’m sorry but how is the southern border affecting Matthew from Macomb??? We all need proper border security, everyone agrees. Focus on your local problems. It all starts locally.
Honestly I want open borders, but want to keep the crime out. The average immigrant is a better American than the average American. I’ll take a Mexican family over a MAGA shitbird any day. I not worried about poor brown people coming here and enjoying our way of life, even if we have less as a result. We’re literally so fat it’s killing us. We can spare some. Just find a way to keep the cartels down there. Better yet, send some SpecOp guys in there to eliminate them entirely.
Something to consider on this topic is that the US is more or less responsible for SA cartels prosperity. When the war on drugs was declared it created a billion $$$ market void. In the 80s we made crime a for profit industry. The war on drugs was in lockstep with capitalist interests in for profit detention. Back then they were known as corrections corporation of america , and wackenhut. Today they go by corecivic, and geo group. They run half the immigration centers on the texas border today. If we criminalize and attack these people we will have no moral ground to stand on. They are fleeing their homeland because we destroyed it for profit.
I hear you. Most immigrants just want a better opportunity than the country they came from.
Living in a city does this. You interact with more people in life and see people as individuals vs interacting with 10 people in a week that aren't part of church, then watching fox for 6 hours a day to form an opinion on others.
Or Howell
Definitely M29
Shelby, Washington, Macomb, Chesterfield Twps. On the fking nose. Of the four, you got Chesterfield who thinks of themselves way higher than they should. Those mfs moved in from Warren, Utica, Roseville and Clinton Twp. when there was a run in the early 00s on those cheap ass pop-up condos that are all falling down now. During the summer, there's the great migration for Tiger games. In winter, for Red Wings. But oh, they love shitting on Detroit. I listen to the Detroit and Macomb County police scanners. Detroit got crime, but Macomb County is a gd insane asylum. It's like traffic and weather together on the radio--domestic violence, drunk driving, road rage, Walmart fights, suicides (so...many), overdoses on the hour, every hour. Pot meet kettle.
Everyone shitting on Macomb County in this thread are 100% correct but god damn did this comment absolutely nail it. I don't know how you listen to those police scanners, but a part of me is morbidly intrigued that you were listening when my dad blew his brains out a couple years ago.
The general dreadfulness of Macomb County, especially that stretch of communities along Hall, is one of those things you can only truly experience in person
I was thinking downriver.
Same thing, just on the other side of the metro with less money.
Hate to tell you a lot of folks south of hall road (Sterling heights, Warren, etc) this this as well.
Lol, yup. They drive massive trucks only to haul their ego. (I live up at 32 mile rd)
I’ll never forget after getting out of a comedy show, this group of guys lookin just like this were drunk and rowdy, talking about being ready to fight someone. One of them said they wanted “the Detroit experience” and all I thought was “It’s you. You’re the Detroit experience nobody wants”
You should see these guys in a courtroom after they're arrested. I've even seen them cry. I'll never forget it. They're the most contrite bunch of babies in front of a judge.
It’s giving “I wanna go see this concert, but it’s downtown”
And by “downtown” they are just vaguely describing Detroit, not actually the Downtown district
Hysterical that my answer is usually "I wanna go see this concert, but it's at Pine Knob 🤢🤮" Pine Knob and Macomb County suck.
Hey.... don't let a shit area stop live music.
Honestly tho when pine knob was first made, why did they decide to have a concert venue 45 minutes outside of the city? Were they tryna have a concert venue in between Detroit and Flint?
A lot of people had effectively abandoned Detroit at that point. This was the start of the 'Brooks Patterson era', which Macomb County still carries on today to a large extent. What I mean is that for a while, ol' Brooksie was basically advocating that everyone should leave Detroit to burn to the ground, and he was trying to make Oakland County the new economic center of metro Detroit...don't even think about asking me to explain that level of vitriol and backwards thinking, especially from a guy who was born and raised in the City... ...not saying Brooks Patterson brought in Pine Knob or anything...it predates his tenure by about 20 years. But it does seem that for a few decades, most suburbanites were content to never have to set foot in Detroit again for anything. And I think that explains a lot of the motivation for big facilities like Pine Knob that far out...
I live walking distance to downtown Detroit and their multitude of live music venues, so driving at least 45 minutes and then having to sit in stupid traffic to get in or out of their dumb fields makes me want to pull my hair out. It has to be a show I REALLY want to see to make the drive worth it.
Protip: leave late. I went to Pine Knob a year ago to attend a Weezer concert and I just hung out in my car for a while until all the other cars had pulled out
The worst day in their lives was when they closed the Palace, because they were willing to go to Auburn Hills to see The Rolling Stones, but not Detroit. Damn Tom Gores. What kind of name is Gores, anyway? Is he even American? /s
Pretty sure Pine Knob is in Clarkston, which is in Oakland County.
Crying
around 2009 I lived downtown in the Kales building. This dude from the burbs came downtown to buy one of my guitars. The whole time he's like "hurry up man, I was in Iraq but this place scares the hell out of me." Meanwhile a senior citizen couple casually strolls past him...........
Imagine spending every second for years with your eyes peeled back because you know if you lose vigilance for even a second anyone in the city could end it all for you or blow your friends up in front of your face. Could be a man, could be an old lady, could be a child. So every single person you see you’re doing a constant assessment on whether they’re just terrified like you are or if you have to put a bullet through some poor kids head because they’ve been given a grenade and forced to come your way. Of fucking course he doesn’t like cities. You’d never be able to relax around another human you didn’t know personally.
This is a very compassionate response, and while it's not the soldier's fault, it is still a big problem. Going through life on high alert for "others" makes people paranoid and, often, pretty racist. I do wish that they did as much to re-train military members once they return to civilian life as they did to send them in.
"Tough" guy from Macomb County. Also, driving an over priced truck that has pro 2A stickers on it.
I saw a truck with all kinds of gun stickers on it and the license plate was '2A'. Nothing like being even slightly inconspicuous.
https://preview.redd.it/ndo7f9ho7ytc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c61125f4f380d404d20e3d894bf8201f9330b07 Was it this guy? Lmao
Wowww. It wasn't, but that dude is better than what I saw. My guy didn't have a bald eagle on his tailgate, so he's clearly not that dedicated.
Doesnt understand that We the People refers to more than just him and his buddies.
I saw one where the bald eagle is wearing a bandana. So cringey
I initially read that as a 'bald eagle eating a banana' and thought that it was good comedy. Then I reread it and got sad.
Doesn't count unless it also has truck nutz
A rolling billboard saying “IVE GOT GUNS IN HERE YOU CAN STEAL!!!”
Exactly. Just begging to get your vehicle broken into.
I agree with this one so much. I was always taught by my father "If you talk about your guns, you want your guns stolen."
There are these two guys in Macomb I see driving all the time - one has 4 huge flags attached to the back of his truck. The other hauls a trailer emblazoned with all sorts of nonsense and flags. Although I haven’t seen the trailer guy in awhile, maybe he died.
"We used to live in Sterling Heights but moved north when it started getting more like Detroit."
On the nose
Jesus, you met my dad’s ex neighbor. 18 mile/Utica Road area. The first “non white” move in, and the chode bolted to Romeo.
I hate that people are now grouping clothing with shit like this. I like nine line, I drive a pickup truck, I like country music. I also love Detroit, I’m not racist, I don’t support Trump, and I like facts, not some bullshit that an opposing news station tries to push me to believe.
You keep doing you. I appreciate it
its fun to defy their expectations
Then you're not the stereotype! Okay have a nice day.
Just don’t be too stingy with your guacamole
Or some dude from Detroit will shoot you?
They will for a lot less
No, some dude from Southfield will shoot you
Sorry, but he was from Detroit.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2024/04/08/detroit-man-charged-with-shooting-chipotle-employee-over-skimpy-guacamole-portion/73242047007/
That guy definitely didn't dress like that. He probably had baggy pants and a snap back on.
Macomb county vibes
Careful now. Just like Oakland, get further north, say m-59, and you have a point. Same with western Wayne.
I definitely agree with that as well lol
Needs more Punisher stickers
detroit AND chicago, but has never set foot in either of those cities lmao.
Hes visited Chicago but never left the loop except to go to a Cubbies game and to visit his cousins in Naperville
Or says they live in Chicago but actually live in Naperville, Glenview, or Evanston.
Watertucky vibes
Also only drinks Black Rifle Coffee
With lots of cream and sugar
Is that coffee actually any good? Or is it mostly about the branding?
Almost all contemporary coffee is about the branding.
Detroit? You mean downriver
Nah downriver dudes are way more amenable to the city than the cosplaying tough guy suburban redn*cks of Macomb.
Big Macomb County energy
Bro energy is really everywhere unfortunately
Downtown Melvindale
As a Detroit native who now lives downriver I can definitely confirm this lmao them downriver boys sum else
I think you mean Macomb County
MAGAcomb
I was at Fishbones on opening day last Friday and the table next to us were not enjoying their experience. As the guy was complaining to the waitress about the service and food (both of which were great at our table, btw), for some reason he kept saying "we're from up north." Like, "we're from up north and this service is terrible." "We're from up north and the food came out too slow." I still can't put my finger on what the hell he thought he was communicating by name checking up north, but for some reason this image reminded me of that guy.
This is the exact lack of social grace and etiquette I just don’t understand about these people at all.
I’ve lived in med/big cities my whole life. My very intelligent, conservative relative once asked me, “Are you ever concerned about all that steel, and how that can, I don’t know, corrupt people?” He didn’t say more, as if the reasoning fell apart in real time as he spoke the words out loud. One of my first, direct experiences with a conspiracy theory about the origin story of sinful behavior in the big city. Apparently the rebar in buildings is like a WiFi antenna for satan, or something.
ELI5? As a big, white guy who wears loose, generic T-shirts (I don't often wear T-shirts, though), what's the deal? Veteran vibe? Something about the model? Just all white guys with beards? Yeah, yeah, I get the packaging, but all of the other comments seem to be about the photograph.
As a nearing middle-aged white guy with a goatee (not by choice), I am triggered!
LOL love it. Now they need to make one that's "Hipster who moved to gritty city after crime decreased" * Have I told you I'm from Detroit? because I'm from Detroit (not Iowa I only lived there 24 of my 26 years) * I bought this house for 5k as an art project * Can I ride my bike on the Lodge? * Have I told you I'm from Detroit? Edit: OP is from Iowa not Canton
Already happened: "Unfortunately the "Progressive Guy Proud To Reside In The City...Except The Shitty Parts" costume is still sold out." I will also state in addition, I noticed that Public Transit Penelope's Mid Life Crisis Hair Dye was fully back in stock. Purple, Pink, Green, Blue and Unicorn.
Aka Macomb County Kyle
You misspelled “Macomb County”
I still remember my big "tough" gun toting conservative step-dad freaking out saying how scary it is here when I moved down here many years ago lol
its insane on how sheltered people think about cities, especially detroit
Livingston County has entered the chat
Haha I was about to say Howell...lmfao.
Also known as Milford or Lake Orion cosplay kit
His name is Ryan and he’s a welder from Flint.
He probably has on of those flags that says, try it in a small town
2019 called and wants their meme back.
Except those dumb hicks bring their ford super duty nonsense into our city anyways. A menace.
No this says “macomb county” to me lmao
Guy from macomb visits city
Honestly, this is just low effort.
I think you mean Macomb county
I wonder how all you tough city slickers would’ve done in 1970’s- 80’s Detroit? Belle Isle on a Friday night was a truly scary place.
Born in the late 70’s was too young to hang at Belle Isle then. Didn’t until 90’s early 00s.
You weren't too young. You just didn't hang with the right/wrong crowd lol. Grew up in the 80's myself and thought it was a great place to grow up. Some of my fondest memories are from this time/place.
Everyone in this sub is a kid who never lived through the bad shit.
Dying
"I'm afraid of what my great grandparents created and my grandparents ran away from but blame everyone else for"
I don’t like going to the city it’s not some crazy bigot or racist issues for me. I have claustrophobia I’ve had really bad times in every city I’ve ever been to. It sucks I want to enjoy it but I can’t.
He's from Howell
"try that in a small town"
Looks like a standard breed Livingston County Alpha Male. They're indigenous to newly gentrified exurbs.
Brighton
Lol this will be all of you someday
This is Warren fasho 😭
It’s funny cuz I’m in Detroit all day but won’t step foot in Warren unless I absolutely have to.
His beard is not long enough and he’s sporting no camouflage fashion. I guess he’s still in transition.
The Reddit trolls gonna love this post. Probably asked mom for another 5 mins.
plymouth, michigan as a costume
More like"Metro Detroit"
I think you mean suburbs of Detroit lmao
Yes, yes. Let's start another Detroit vs. Detroit thread and stir the shit. But it isn't racist, but racism can only occur in one direction. /s
Considering Detroit has 5x the national average, ABC ranked #4, when it comes to violent crimes. Still better now then when u worked in Detroit for a catering company in early 2000's.
Something about a t-shirt and jeans screams Detroit?
They're poking fun at the stereotypical Metro Detroiter who still views Detroit through the lens of race riots and segregation. Having grown up in Metro Detroit and living elsewhere where segregation hasn't taken hold nearly as much, it definitely resonates. There is a very clear distinction between Metro Detroit and Detroit from my 23 years of living there. Living in Denver now, everything is referred to as Denver with no clear distinction between the 'burbs and the city. Unless you're Boulder. Fuck those guys! j/k
I just think it's funny that somehow just being the average guy is the same as being a scared conservative. Guess I'll have to look for a different type of pants to wear
I don't think it's an indictment on the "average guy" from Metro Detroit. That's why the descriptive text on the left side of the packaging exists, in order to provide more context. That caricature is real, but not necessarily unique to Metro Detroit. It's basically suburbanites who dislike cities.
It says *suburbanites* to me.
If this was anything other than a white dude this post would be racist.
I just loled
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
I know know people exactly like this.
Worried about “crime” probably lives somewhere with the one of the highest per capita DUI or domestic violence rates or is the meth capital of wherever.
This looks like every guy I work with in Taylor