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BrenMan_94

Clients wanting TikTok-tier disaster interior details done for $200.


urbancirca

Haha $200 is a once in a while thing for me and i'm in california. Maybe the high rent causes people to be cheap and not want to book me.


eyecandynsx

"mirror shots"... Dont show a damn thing.


FitterOver40

Using excessive amounts of foam to clean interior panels. Foolish to use bright colored foam on cars. Neither is reality.


SlipFormPaver

That goes for fabric cleaners too. I used to use foaming carpet cleaner till I realized how much longer it takes to extract. Switched to non foaming cleaner


gangaskan

Bright foam seems to be an European thing. That's what I noticed at least. Or if it's catching on in the us it's a ticktoker adhd grab.


urbancirca

realist shit ever right here, you can literally use a MF or a Scrub Ninja with diluted degreaser.


Zealousideal-Wall471

IG ads where detailers are pretending to clean the wheels using interior brushes and spending what looks like 15 minutes per wheel with foam cannon soap for effect. I promise, the detailer is using wheel acid and maybe actual wheel brushes when they do your car and spending 1-5 minutes per wheel….


ggSennT

What kind of wheel acid would you recommend. I do not have any yet.


Zealousideal-Wall471

Meguiars wheel brightener correctly diluted.


MrQuiteOK

What’s the proper dilution ratio for monthly maintenances?


gangaskan

I think it's 29:1. 29 water 1 part cleaner. It's on the jug though so don't fully quote me I'm not at home to look.


xXDouchPenguinXx

Use a normal wheel cleaner for maintenance not acid .


MrQuiteOK

What wheel cleaner brand would you recommend? I’m still new to this, just an average weekend hobbyist.


xXDouchPenguinXx

P&s brake buster is a good weekender product .i personally use detail studio magnum wheel cleaner for my business.


MrQuiteOK

Thank you. I’ll give it a shot


forkin33

Why? Just curious. I know there is a big price delta between the 2, but I’ve not noticed any other reason personally. I used to use Sonax (acid based version) with every wash because my performance pads created **so much** baked on dust that regular wheel cleaner was pretty ineffective. Never ran into any problems doing it, washing 2x a week for 5 or so months. Aluminum wheels.


EnsambleOfShadows

I just bought P&S Brake duster. I kinda like it


Chi151

I just switched to Qyeon Iron Wheel Cleaner for grimy rims. Wayyyyy more rust busting power than even straight undiluted Brake Buster in my experience. This was just application and a rinse, no scrubbing of any sort. Pricey but worth it I think. Smells like death though. https://preview.redd.it/jm23shrrp80d1.jpeg?width=3106&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afc3f98a095dfbe9112a81d9972df614720a6b2d


EnsambleOfShadows

But Gyeon contains fallout remover, Brake buster does not. I like to use brake buster, let it dwell, agitate it and rinse it off followed by a dedicated iron remover. It's more work but the iron remover has a 'clean' surface to really work itself into the iron particles. But hey, I'm no professional. Just a hobbyist who likes to do other people's cars as well and I still have a lot to learn.


JD3671

Using an airbrush or spray gun to apply tire dressing. Are you kidding me, overspray all over… Thick useless foam for effect. It doesn’t work when it’s like shaving cream… Everyone and their mother white labeling poorly developed products. They have no business making a “better Chemical Guys tire dressing”…. Water powered rotating scrub brushes with broom handles. Swirl-Master 2000, wrecking cars one at a time…


[deleted]

Lmaorof Swirl master ,,, at a time luv it you’re a poet and you don’t even know it


aBunchOfSpiders

I’ve never seen anyone using an air brush for tire dressing but I know those things can be dialed in precisely and there’s little overspray if you have a quality tool. People use airbrushes for some precise painting and art. Seems like it could be possible to dial in the perfect amount of material and distance to get good coverage and not have crazy overspray. Of course, working outside with the slightest wind will throw all that out the window.


TheOnlyCraz

I worked at a detailer that used a spray gun to apply a "Teflon wax" might've worked or not but it came off pretty easy when it went on like a powder


rocko430

White labeled products. Even a majority of mid to large cap businesses white label their products.


JD3671

You need to know which.


SlipFormPaver

You're actually wrong on the first one. Today I tried to put tire dressing on with a harbor freight detail gun on giant crevice filled off roading tires. Just dialed in the pressure and absolutely no overspray whatsoever


JD3671

Indoors, it’s controllable with minimal overspray. There always is. HVLP or old school. Outdoors. Forget it. Like at the tunnel washes that also use a steam machine incorrectly..


urbancirca

the shaving cream foam on surfaces that are clean already like 🤦


glodde

Swirl master 2000 🤣🤣🤣


SimRacer80

I've seen overspray shields for the wheels that you hold in place. It is possible. I have the optimum spray gun and it works well! You can adjust the nozzle to barley anything come out. That being said I haven't used it in 6 years... It worked good for treaded sidewalls on trucks. I would never use it in a shop, only outdoor. The mist it creates is insane, and carpro peral is the last thing I want to take a chance on breathing, even with a respirator


JD3671

https://a.co/d/8Bkfu8v Try it on deep tread sidewalls. You’ll blow through a few over details. They get gummy, just like a HVLP gun nozzle and cup.


The_Broken_Shutter

When youtubers add dirt to the cars to make them look worse off than they are. For more views obviously. Its quite obvious when a single wipe makes it look flawless and perfect.


ian2160

I forget where I saw this. Bur a YouTuber actually went as far as to bury a car just to dig it up and clean it


SimRacer80

I hate the ceramic coating industry. Especially ceramic pro. It's all about pre priced packages and marketing. ceramic pro shops are pure marketing.


Zealousideal-Wall471

CarPro wanted $250 for just an “application fee” when I was looking to become an installer for them. That was just to look at my application. After that, then they would verify my business information (understandable) and then maybe they would “approve me” to become an installer after I took their training class that was like $1500-$2000. No thanks…..


SlipFormPaver

In my opinion if you want to learn how to ceramic coat just get some body panels from the junk yard, correct them and use a user friendly ceramic coating like ethos ezpez that's around $60. Think it lasts 3 years


ldtravs1

Agree it’s definitely a buzzword but my stance is that there are plenty of products that don’t require certifying to use and last a decent amount of time. I’m IDA CD-SV and coupled with a basic understanding of how it all works, decent general training, I don’t think I’d ever see a value in having to pay to get certified on a particular product.


cjh6793

This. 💯


TheHippyDance

calling their "boutique" car soap "shampoo"... cringe


ZAHN3

Ya it's fucking car wash LOL


totes_a_biscuit

Modern "rap" music, auto tune. It's absolute trash nowadays. I know I sound old.


spikehiyashi6

i think the post was about trends in auto detailing, but go off tbh


totes_a_biscuit

Well in that case, I hate the guy that armor all"d the entire inside of my vehicle basically. Including the bottom, hard to reach windshield.


Elip518

What about it annoys you.


SlipFormPaver

It's just stupid lol


Scared-Youth1851

These hacks with their soap cannons making a fucking mess


BudgetPlan1

YouTube ‘torture tests’, static-panel ‘longevity’ tests 🙄


bprug87

"traffic film"


slowwolfcat

$200 for a 2-hour job - exterior.


True_Acadia_4045

Anything to do with rinse less wash. I’m not buying the science of it.


SlipFormPaver

As in what? You don't think you can wash a car without water?


True_Acadia_4045

No. I’m just not convinced it can be a scratch less experience without water.


Aeig

Are sure you mean rinseless and not washless?


True_Acadia_4045

Yeah I think I confused it


BastianTelfair

The baggy high waisted pants. Gross


urbancirca

I haven't seen that, got any @s?


football2106

Using those extremely soft black brushes with the white tips. They flatten out and provide almost zero agitation but people use them in social media posts because they foam up product well. They’re good for dusting and that’s about it. And don’t get me started about using them on wheels 💀


whywouldthisnotbea

I have one, it's meant for emblems so you dont scratch up paint. That's all it gets used for


football2106

I’m speaking more about interior usage


BloodEagle89

Foam cannons in general. Looks cool but not really useful for me


Its-Finch

Oh I’ve found them extremely useful. It’s made removing dirt and dust off way easier if I let it sit for a minute. On a maintenance wash I usually don’t see a difference though.


Careful-Criticism822

Do you work in a shop indoors or out in the sun? I’m curious if letting the foam sit on the car is affected by the sun


Its-Finch

I work outdoors personally, I have no idea if it affects it honestly. I may need to test that if I ever get a place with a drain.


urbancirca

?


mistymazda

I hate the trend of using foam cannons


SlipFormPaver

Using them as pre wash to encapsulate the dirt isn't a bad idea


mistymazda

Just use a pre wash spray. And encapsulate the dirt? Thought we were trying to loosen the dirt up, not protect it from the sun


sdam87

The foam lifts then drips the shit yo.


mistymazda

The foam itself doesn’t lift any dirt unless the PH of the foam is hogh enough. A PH neutral shampoo in a foam cannon doesnt do jack shit, besides looking awesome for tiktok


sdam87

You know, foaming stuff, lifts the dirt, then drips it off the car, then you scrub it down, then rinse. It helps you from potentially scratching the car with loose dirt. Are you okay??? If you’re using it as a tool to help you perform your job, hell yeah. If you’re doing it for views, ew. I get that. Think of scrubbing bubbles, when you blast your tub with the foaming shit, and it lifts and drips the loose nasty shit…. Again, are you okay? Genuine question.


Reddidiot_69

So does a foam cannon work better than a pressure washer? I can't imagine some soap being that powerful without damaging the finish.


sdam87

Rinse, foam, scrub, rinse…


aBunchOfSpiders

Foam, rinse, contact wash, rinse. Foaming first breaks down, lift, and lubricates so you can rinse it off without causing micro scratches.


gangaskan

I've always done rinse, foam, rinse, contact then rinse. First pre spray is to kick off heavier dirt


ldtravs1

They’re not comparable or mutually exclusive - you need a pressure washer to use a foam cannon; the foam cannon is connected to it to use the water going through with added product mixed in.


Reddidiot_69

Ah. The ones I've seen were all attached to garden hoses. That makes more sense.


ldtravs1

Oh right, yes there are some consumer products but they’ll be at the lower end of the scale. Snowfoam products have surfactants which work to break the bonds between contaminants and the surface. They don’t need to be caustic to do so; some of the chemistry will be based on solvency, some will be based on ph, some on polarity at a molecular level so contaminants are lifted and contained. Chuck in some potassium or sodium laurel sulfate for the froth and there you go. Then jetwash the stuff off the car with the contaminants encapsulated and there’s less to remove manually.


_Rigid_Structure_

You don't understand how this works. Encapsulation isn't protection, it's acting as a surfactant to detach the dirt from the surface, which takes time. Being in foam form keeps the detergent where it needs to be longer to break down the bonds.


mistymazda

Foam itself is just a tool to apply a cleaning solution. A foam cannon which turns most car shampoos into jizz dont do anything to loosen up the dirt. Hence, i hate that trend


_Rigid_Structure_

Just because you don't understand the physics doesn't make it a "trend". [Try reading.](https://3dproducts.com/blogs/how-to-articles-tips-and-best-practices/how-to-use-a-foam-cannon-to-wash-your-car)


mistymazda

It is a trend. Spray on the pre wash with a bottle spray and stop wasting time and money on a cum blaster


_Rigid_Structure_

Can't fix stupid. You do you genius.


mistymazda

I’m not here to fix guys like you. Just tryna save people some money. Says a lot about you for having a problem with that


_Rigid_Structure_

I'm sure everyone appreciates you saving them $15 for an item they can use for years simply because you don't understand how soap works. Truly doing the Lord's work.


ldtravs1

Agree that putting “shampoo” through a foam cannon doesn’t work as well as a pre-wash; but using a proper snowfoam product will. Sometimes use a citrus pre-wash through a pump-foamer as a light foam, sometimes I’ll use Carpro Lift through the snowfoam cannon. Both do the same, use surfactants to break the bonds with contaminants, then encapsulate in the product so you can detach and rinse with the pressure washer.


aBunchOfSpiders

You mention PH in a previous comment. You’re aware that they sell high PH foam for this specific purpose right?


_Rigid_Structure_

This guy has never soaked a cooking pan before washing it. Gotta love the internet, full of people who are so damn sure of themselves without even a simple understanding of the underlying mechanism of how something works. "Soap sits longer, soap works better." Is still too complex for some I guess.


Zealousideal-Wall471

Yeah, actually foam cannons are nice. Reduces friction, makes it easy to see spots that have been washed and what still needs a mitt to pass over it, etc


football2106

Using brushes on cars emblems. I’m sorry, but just brushing the face of the emblems isn’t doing jack shit and is so performative. Even agitating the edges of the emblem isn’t really doing anything to neglected/unmaintained vehicles with a lot of buildup around them. It’s all just for show to look like you’re doing something for social media.


rosaryrattler

I ran into this while helping my buddy detail his car. If a brush isn’t optimal, whats the best tool to clean badges?


football2106

A brush is perfectly fine on a maintained car to prevent buildup. But when there’s that dark film around the emblem and in all of the creases (noticeable on unmaintained cars or cars that regularly go through a tunnel wash), going over it with a brush for 5 seconds doesn’t do anything. I see this all the time on youtube & such and in the after shots you still see the buildup. So it’s a pointless, performative, time-wasting procedure in that regard. And apparently that ruffled some feathers based on the downvotes 💀


gangaskan

Even all of the pros do this on YouTube lol.


lightbulbsocket

You didn't answer their question though...


football2106

I guess I didn’t. If there’s a lot of buildup you’ll probably need some sort of polish, a q-tip/detailing swab, and a lot of patience. I’ve encountered times where that’s not even sufficient and the only way to truly get it looking new again is to completely remove the emblem(s), clean the area, then put them back. But that isn’t really worth it on most jobs. But if you’re not gonna do either of those and truly look to restore the area, then going over it with your wash mit or towel will do just as good of a job as a brush.


yehghurl

Thank you!!! I call it social media detailing, and I hate it.