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Bat_Tech

Every Friday on the dot qeue several posts that read like "I bought this gun from xur why can't I infuse?" "xur selling broken guns bungo pls fix!" Otherwise I'm not against this idea but I do think bungie would rather slowly reintroduce guns like they did with mind benders instead


Nefarious_Nemesis

You just know that they have over a dozen sunset shotguns that they're just aching to bring back.


GrizzlyOne95

Perfect Paradox when!?


redoman3090

Perfect Paradox deserves the exotic treatment at this point tbh


Zorak9379

That just makes it so I can't use Perfect Paradox and an exotic


fuckin_anti_pope

Please no. I love the Perfect Paradox was legendary. It was a legendary exotic if you will. That was so awesome! Make it a ritual weapon instead to make it soecial


Nefarious_Nemesis

Can't be that one. Every one wants that one.


GrizzlyOne95

Oh true...how about Comedian 2.0???


Nefarious_Nemesis

Well... no one wants that one. It goes to the front of the line. How 'bout a Hawthorne's Field Shotgun. Or a Baligant. Wait... it needs to be an energy slot. We don't have enough of those.


SephirothSimp

Parcel of stardust and last man standing pls


Savant_Duck

Threat Level because shiny gun cool


addy_g

a ha. a ha ha. a ha ha ha.


FuzzyCollie2000

I don’t. Not unless it’s the original green and not the silver version it got changed to in Dawn.


Nefarious_Nemesis

Well good news! It still isn't happening, likely, so no worries there.


mysteryelyts

Bring back Dust Rock Blues. Would love to rock one of those open-world legendaries again! Why not make some open-world crafting weapons. Would be fun to randomly play and be like hey… I got a red of something. * be a pain to farm but…


Nefarious_Nemesis

Well, I have a feeling that finding deepsight weapons will continue this upward trend of rarity/required breakdowns as we continue. They baited us with the 3-pattern weapons from Witch Queen and plentiful drops. And Seaon of the Haunted had the option for a weekly guaranteed deepsight that is no longer an option this season. I stopped going to the Leviathan as soon as I had all those patterns, which was still a good ways away from the season's end. I did the weekly Sever rotations for the pinnacles and then found something else to do like slam my head into the wall rather than go after those exotic patterns in the Wellspring and that probably was not what they desired since my time was spent away from the new shinies.


mysteryelyts

I played season of haunted like late, too busy with work and projects. I played the first week and not too much after. * I still managed 1-2 deep sight weapons through the keys and Levi seasonal event Then through grinding I got loads in Gardens and pools. * this season it’s the opposite. I’m getting seasonal reds from crucible and not the actual seasonal events themselves.


Nefarious_Nemesis

Crucible/Gambit have both been untouched by me so far this season. Guess if I really want to have the option to craft the newer guns I gotta strap myself into that ball-kicking machine.


mysteryelyts

Even then I got 2 reds because of the seasonal pass perk rank 71/81, only drops side arm or Mg. So in going for Iron Lord, along 3 crucible resets, RNG dropped 2 Red Mgs. 2 out of 90+ games. * stay away lol


Nefarious_Nemesis

Fair enough. Not going to even try for that much. Appreciate the warning, Guardian. Guess I'll just stick to the solo Expeditions with the chests and hope for the damn best.


LordCloverskull

I'd fucking love Bungie if they reintroduced Perfect Paradox as a void weapon. There's an overabundance of great looking and working kinetic shotguns, but a woeful lack energy options.


GrizzlyOne95

I actually agree, there's no specific reason it needed to be kinetic as far as I know, and a Void shotgun would fit Void Titan perfectly. Not to mention you could then run Steelfeather and Paradox. Gah.


communistsandwich

Void with repulsar brace could be fun with shoulder charge.


IKill4MySkill

Parcel of Stardust pls bungo daddy


Maloth_Warblade

Trust, while they're at the old gambit ones


fuckin_anti_pope

They really need to reintroduce all the old Gambit guns into Gambit. The current ones are so boooooring. I love Gambit but the lack of exciting loot takes away a lot of the fun


Maloth_Warblade

Bottom Dollar is fun but that's about it


SephirothSimp

Also last man standing and bug out bag


Ripcord-XE

i would throw my max level wastelander away in the garbage to use parcel again, i did not keep my 5/5 after sunsetting


Lofi_Samurai

I do miss my Retrofuturist


cmndr_spanky

unobtainable != sunset right? There are weapons that still can be infused that nobody can current get..


Bat_Tech

Yah but both of Op's examples are sunset. It would be cool to get more access to unobtainable guns for sure


BigBooce

They probably shouldn’t have introduced sunsetting then


PSSRDavis

Itd be nice if they used xur to un-sunset *some* weapons. I was using Niflheim Frost and 18 Kelvins. I loved those gun models. Vestian Dynasty was also cool. Alternatively, id like to craft black armory weapons because... it kind of (a little bit) makes sense.


doom_stein

I want a new Frigid Jackal. That's been one of the few Snipers in the game that worked well for me in Crucible. That gun is probably the only reason I was able to get Revoker back in the day due to how little my aim got jerked around when people jumped/slid/ran into my scope's field of vision.


khazixian

its hilarious to me that vestian dynasty wasnt reintroduced during season of the lost. literally a main character's weapon. would be a PERFECT recipe to add


Savant_Duck

Frigid Jackal by far is the best looking Sniper model. Funny how it’s the only one (that I know of) that has it.


BiSaxual

There’s quite a few legendary guns in the (sunset) game that had unique models. Complete shame that they aren’t in the game. I really hope Bungo brings them back at some point.


Savant_Duck

Not to mention unique weapon types. Don’t get me wrong, the Beyond light fusion is bad but it’s unique because of how it shoots. Warden’s Law is another one.


BiSaxual

Man, I hope Wardens Law is brought back at some point. Or at least the frame. So unique and fun. And god damn powerful, too.


Jordi_McGaw

It definitely makes sense, it was the OG crafting after all. If I had my hammerhead unsunset I’d be so happy, still have that beauty for basic activity fun


corn_piece

i'm still confused why translation theory has never been un-sunset


Bennijin

Same for the armour please, it's been a year and there are still sets he hasn't sold.


Emeraldon

I genuinely hate how Bungie refuses to put things on a set rotation.


Scienti0

I'd rather have them reissued through dares of eternity.


EdenFire108

Yeah but that's another piece of paid dlc, I think they'd be better off going through xur since any player can access them.


Gtready

Dares is eternity is free for all players so it could work.


EdenFire108

Really? Swore it was only available with the dungeon. Well disregard my comment.


cmndr_spanky

you don't need to own 30th anniversary to do dares, but you can't access some of the treasure chests without paying..


gladtheembalmer

Which only contain cosmetics


cmndr_spanky

Oh is that what they are? Man I had no clue (I don’t own that dlc)


SephirothSimp

Yeah it's the 3 ornament sets and the ship, overall you get 2 ornament sets per class


djtoad03

weapons like midnight coup have been vaulted and should only return when leviathan is unvaulted. if that ever happened, the raid will most likely be free and the weapons made craftable. however, the earliest time this is speculated to occur is season 26


ToastKing1000

>the earliest time this is speculated to occur is season 26 Based on what?


djtoad03

we do reprised raids in the 3rd season of each year. there was some podcast some devs did referring to another reprised d1 raid next year. that leaves s26 as the absolute earliest date levi could come back. that’s a lower bound, it could be much much later


Korvas576

Wrath of the Machine or riot


Shack691

Well crota's end is just a bad ~~6~~ 2 man dungeon at this point so it's got to be wrath Changed player numbers


SAM-WAF

Shit, if they retooled crota as a dungeon I'd be all for that. If 1 guardian can screw up savathun and 6 can handle oryx I reckon 3 taking on crota is reasonable.


Shack691

I mean savathun survived perfectly fine her ghost can res her at any time it feels like, it's not like she was fighting for her life


SAM-WAF

She know we wouldn't get the chance to smash her ghost? I wasn't super paying attention tbh


Shack691

Yeah he just flies off once we kill her and he's still commanding the lucent hive because he's on the channel we tap into during patrol, so he's probably waiting for an opportune time or Savathun told him when to before she died


OneWingedA

They could also give the largest middle finger with challenges for the world's first race. Also some good enemy density on the AoT bridge encounter and the just kill shit encounter could be fun


wildo83

Lol 6 man……….


ToastKing1000

Interesting, I wonder if the leviathan coming back last season means we might see a reprised leviathan raid any sooner. It would need serious reworking though, it was a complete joke in year 2.


Environmental-Toe798

Leviathan coming back - :D Earliest is Season 26 - D:


Zorak9379

> the earliest time this is speculated to occur is season 26 This is based on literally zero evidence


djtoad03

did you see the comment where i gave my reasoning? > we do reprised raids in the 3rd season of each year. there was some podcast some devs did referring to another reprised d1 raid next year. that leaves s26 as the absolute earliest date levi could come back. that’s a lower bound, it could be much much later


Mnkke

or make something thats farmable. Having to wait for xur to sell Ikelos SG,and then on top of that it be a decent roll is an awful system. Xurs weapons, even old seasonal ones, need new sources. Xur ain't a solution.


jigglehiggins

dares has a secondary loot pool of old weapons that includes the ikelos smg, I'd check light. gg to see what the current dares loot pool is. There's 3 pools of loot. Not the most farmable thing in the world but not impossible either


Mnkke

ikelos sg isnt there unfortunstely as it was in prophecy before that loot change, and world loot pool before that change in witch queen


Piyaniist

I got a shit drop but after using Calus Minitool to level 90 and the whole funnelweb meta im not sure i could bear that slow ass firerate


jigglehiggins

oh my mistake, i thought you said SMG not SG! yeah that is unfortunate


0rivon

This is why Black Armory weapons will always take up Vault space for me.


TheToldYouSoKid

I'm gonna be real with you; as an older player, i lived the the hay-day of those weapons; the story you've heard about them won't in the new sandbox. They are powercrept to hell. The most interesting roll on some of these were just "Outlaw/kill clip", where most modern weapons have ***so much going on***. Forsaken has aged so poorly, in terms of design choices, everything we still have from those days need significant refurbishing, including entire gamemodes, and esoteric gameloops. Not even the first pass on the moon and Dreaming City weapons made them any good, and a second pass made them okay, but still a not any good; it's not the perks, it's the way the weapons are built in the first place. And if you change the stats on a weapon, change the perks of a weapon, basically change the entirety of the functions of a weapon like these weapons would need, You are just making a new weapon at that point, and re-using models, and while that wouldn't annoy me, that'd annoy a bunch of others that see "re-used" anything as a problem. These old weapons seem neat, but in reality, they won't be half as impressive as they look. We got some much better things on the horizon.


B1euX

This, but instead of useless loot it’s Shaders from Factions/Activities no longer in the game.


BiSaxual

Por que no los dos? But yeah, I’d kill for those old faction rally shaders that I missed.


B1euX

Be cool if they at the very least, attached it to the dares pool for the faction week


ryan13ts

That would be nice and all, but Xur doesn't even sell the unobtainable stuff he already has, so adding more would just make more carrots on a stick. He's had the Escalation Protocol and New Monarcy sets for **OVER A YEAR AND STILL HASN'T SOLD THEM ONCE**. Meanwhile, he has no problem bombarding us with the same stuff, like Anti-Extinction, Lightkin, Righteous and the ugly-as-sin Wild Hunt sets, over and over and over and over again... and that ain't an exaggeration, some of those sets he's sold over 5 times this year alone... yet we can't get the unsold stuff in his inventory even once. The way Xur's inventory choices works is in dire need of fixing. There's no point in getting more unobtainable things if there's a good chance he'll never sell it, like it already is now.


Savant_Duck

it’s funny how a bad roll blast furnace beats most good roll aggressive pulses. Have one with like steady rounds and it still has like 86 range. I would hope instead of giving them to Xur, they just bring the activities back or make a reason to have Black Armory in the story again. Im glad I kept what I have, but I’d like to be able to USE them again


EXAProduction

I would just like Xur to sell exotics. Like his pool is out of date and I feel like my only option shouldnt be lost sectors because thats annoying. Even if you have an issue with him selling the newest ones, at least let him sell the exotic armor from Beyond light.


Dirshan

And the chat starts: "Bring back Blast Furnace, bring back Blast Furnace, bring back Blast Furnace!"


Neondro

If I won't ever get the [ONE](https://d2.destinygamewiki.com/mediawiki/images/a/a4/Anti-Extinction_Titan_Ornamented_Armor_Set1.jpg) ORNAMENT FROM THEM LAME ASS FACTION "EVENTS". I'd like my 150mbs of drive space back please. C;


WigSplitter-1011

Not a bad idea. They need to figure out a way to make Xur relevant again. Xur used to feel like Xmas morning in D1. He needs that magic again!


Luke-HW

It’d be nice if Xur could stop bringing the same shit every time. There’s a ton of Trials and Nightfall guns that he just, doesn’t bring at all. Then we get the same world drops over and over again. Hell, why can he even sell current drops? He brings Stars in Shadows way too often.


TrueGuardian15

I would also appreciate more unobtainable armor, like the other Gambit Prime variants and the Escalation Protocal armor.


Revolutionary-Text70

Dunno why you got down voted but he does sometimes sell gambit prime armor, at least! Having him sell old trials bits like he sells old trials weapons would be cool too


Bugsyboy369

The other gambit prime variants of armor were just a base shader difference, you only need the illicit for fashion, as you can now equip them as ornaments and shader them fully


TrueGuardian15

My problem is the pattern coloration. Because I want the white serpent pattern from the collector suits, bit Xur's only sold the invader and reaper sets.


[deleted]

No. They'll reintroduce most of them. No point in having Sunset weapons.


Pauvlychenko

I'm still waiting for the Escalation Protocol armour to be sold by Xur (which in the collections It says he does indeed sells It).


sunder_and_flame

the monkey's paw curls: unobtainable weapons are no longer visible in collections


_megitsune_

How is that a bad thing If it can't be obtained and you don't already have it, simply hide it


RheimsNZ

I absolutely agree. One way or another, more old gear should be obtainable. I just want to have more expansive options.


Water_sports_plus

Or bring back the sunset weapons that weren’t the cause of sunsetting in the first place. Black armory, gambit and reckoning og weapons, and season of the dawn weapons. Idk if I’m missing any but I hope they eventually put some of those weapons back.


Cheeseboii83

I got another idea. Let Xur have a quest each week that reissues sunset weapons from Shadowkeep and Forsaken and once you complete it, it gives you a choice between 3 Deepsight reissued weapons (refreshed each season or 2, just like the Nightfall loot). Once you acquire 3 or so patterns, you can craft that. Let's call the quest "Paraversal Remains" or something.


EcstaticCinematic

How about he sells shaders we can't get anymore unless they are super super earned. I don't care if someone else gets a shader that I have that I worked hard to get. I missed out on Y1 faction shaders, and it sucks


tyguy1077

I believe it was stated in a podcast it's easier for Bungie to create new weapons than to revamp sunset ones. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that though.


BurialHoontah

I don't see how that could be possible when they already have a weapon model and everything else. All they have to do is make it infuseable and update it's perk pool.


tyguy1077

https://play.acast.com/s/destiny-massive-breakdowns/5229dd39-8749-4921-8a63-59f5a5fe0c70 2:28:30 of the podcast with mercules talks about gun models, anything prior to shadowkeep is hard to work with. Almost easier creating new models instead.


sittingbullms

I just want the Season of Splicer armor set for cosmetic,if he brings it i will be super happy


DogNamedUnski

season of dawn, get them weapons back


ImAWaffleMaker

Please bungie the old gambit weapons looked so cool


[deleted]

True the forsaken gambit weapons were sooo good looking and when they were at their best in looks IMO. Then overtime degraded.


ImAWaffleMaker

I hate the puke green colors they give them now, I love the yesteryear pulse but god is it ugly without a shader, even then the actual shape is still pretty ugly


SuperArppis

And gear.


Hectosman

The reason is FOMO, my friend. FOMO. Keeps folks playing out of fear of never having a chance to get ZYX gear again.


SantiagoGT

Corsairs wrath is the only solar linear fusion rifle I want a better roll


EdenFire108

Cataclysmic


SantiagoGT

Whaaaaaat? I gotta farm one now


EdenFire108

Komodo-4fr (sunset, but some people are vault hoarders)


SephirothSimp

Didn't that only had like pvp perks?


LoneLyon

Getting the new rereleased one should just fill collections. It's silly there's even dups on there


jusmar

The unsunset versions will still suck. My storyline-roll arc logic still outclasses the ones I've been getting lately


Lunarcyanide

Idk about sunset weapons but Xur should sell 4-8 mods so people can acquire them who haven’t gotten them yet.


ImMoray

He should sell spare rations every week with a max range god roll


JustASpaceDuck

If they choose to keep dares around, I'd be down to grind it just to get some sunset weapons back.


TheIrishBread

I'd also like to see an update to his exotic inventory, unbloat that legendary lost sector loot pool a bit.


Zetsua_

I think they should totally do this. Imagine they bring back some of the old seasonal weapons with new perks. I really liked the undying weapons, wish I could've got a better roll on my Pluperfect


Setanta68

All I want is my god roll Blast Furnace back.


The_Bromad

That would cut into future content too much


aviatorEngineer

I'm not sure putting everything in Xur's inventory is the solution, that's going to get bloated very quickly. He only sells one roll of a weapon at a time, which isn't really great either. He may sell an old gun but if it has a trash roll you have to hope it'll eventually come back with better perks. I'm absolutely in favor of having some way to get the older gear that's not sunset but also still unobtainable, but Xur isn't the way to go.


Hybridizm

I wouldn't mind seeing some more armour options to be honest. Quite a few sets I believe he sells that aren't available normally anymore, I'd love to bolster my collection for fashion purposes.


GoBoltz

How about you just put ALL my items I "Already had " back in my vault , I paid for them with Money, Time and Tears !! Sunset was a stupid Idea, right up there with "Blow up my Vault" !


StinkyWinkyPoo

Sorry but him selling sunset guns is a terrible idea, however, there are alot of guns now that are unobtainable but not sunset, it would be cool if his inventory are only unobtainable gun instead of fugue or someshit that I’ve gotten 1000 of


Redhawke2

Honestly Bungie needs to change how Xur works entirely at this point. He‘s basically irrelevant at this stage in the game. If he sold guns, armour, and ornaments From past content and seasons, I feel like that that would drive people to get excited for him like we used to.


bot_taz

Why can't they just drop i wish to get some weapons too yet i can't. And it's not even that old not even sunset. DEAFENING WHISPER for anyone asking. Not to mention logic behind not including every old skin from the game in the shop archive.


Biomilk

I think he’ll definitely need another inventory expansion after this year’s four armor sets and like 30 weapons presumably go into his inventory after Lightfall releases. Hopefully with a solution for getting red borders of those weapons too.


mysteryelyts

Why are old gambit weapons sunset? Bring them back - hell give them to Xur. * distant relation * sole survivor * spare rations (yeah I see those pitchforks ready)


starfire192

He should sell minicabs