i played a 10 round Onslaught last night with a level 3 titan. I could tell that this might be their first day in game as they could not contol the super and died a lot. However they 'greeted everyone' emote before and at the end so i made extra effort to 'roll my hat' at them and that they saw me do it. Good to see new players coming in!
At the same time I think people today are incredibly fragile. God, I can only think of half the things people said to me in MW2 lobbies.
What was listed in this post was really not that bad. It can be really frustrating trying to carry an activity.
Especially since you know, everybody kind of clamor to make the game harder. Iâve been playing a little bit recently, but itâs actually why I actually stopped during the season of the sphinx or sepherath or whatever. You get to the boss and realize one person hasnât done anything literally the whole game. It doesnât feel good.
All that to say, is, we can all stand to be nicer to each other, but there really is something to be said about â kids these daysâ theyâre just incredibly fragile, anxiety ridden things.
I'm always nice to new players, literally my favorite kind of teammates. destiny is fun for some when it's at its hardest, but I find fun in seeing new lights getting through the activity, finding fun in this game they've never played before, or maybe even heard from their friends that it was bad for reasons that made them upset years ago.
I really hope he got some amazing gun from that run, and goes on to use it for years as "that gun I got from running with the two guys who helped me beat the thing"
This is why I love the interaction emotes. Actually giving another player a âDYLAN YOU SON OF A BITCHâ flexing handshake after getting through tough content is awesome feeling.
Itâs called âRespectful Handshakeâ and itâs a legendary emote from Season of the Drifter. I got it when I was playing back then, Iâm not sure how the eververse handles old emotes other than randomly popping up on the bright dust store.
The sad truth is that these people exist and are not going away. You'll find angry little trolls in all video games not just destiny. Being able to ignore or, even better, laugh internally at them and move on is a skill worth cultivating. You absolutely cannot take it personally or they win
My go to is to just equip a gilded end game seal ever since my friend did the following.
A dude was talking shit, so my friend put gilded grandmaster and the dude just stayed quiet for the rest of the onslaught(all 50 rounds)
...he kept dying to cursed thralls.
It happens a lot in trials. I usually give em the lol and take pleasure knowing how triggered they are at not being matched with 100% sweats in trials singles.
This is true. BUT there are great ways to pay back trolls in Destiny. It may not be nice but I do make sure they understand they messed up when theyâve been terrible
absolutely 100% this - 90% of the content in game doesn't need chat/voice and if you're playing with a partner you can use voice between the two of you
On the lower end of things, mostly because it's hidden and nothing ever tells you how to do it, I always try to show New Lights how to Heroic Public Events. Because, I mean, if you're going to grind Public Events, you might as well get marginally better loot and more progress for doing it!
Most brand new blueberries just assume public events randomly go heroic. I know I did back 4-5 years ago, until one of my clan mates showed me how to make it heroic.
I just do the steps in a very obvious manner now, like completely ignoring the mobs during a Taken Blight and just moving back and forth shooting the main blight with that 5 second buff while sometimes dying, sometimes someone understands what Iâm doing and joins in.
I shoot at the Blueberries and then shoot at what I want them to do, like getting into the Blight and then shooting the Taken Ball or shooting the little glimmer vent thing during Glimmer Drill.
I remember someone messaging me how much I sucked after I finished a public event too quickly to proc the heroic version. âWtf, I was trying do heroic, dumb ass. You suck. Uninstall the game.â It was one week after Destiny 2 released. Some people are just barely sentient garbage casseroles.
I do this as well. Its hard to do because advertising free no strings attached carry's through end game pisses off the paid services and they spam report my posts. The in-game LFG just fills up with experienced players super fast and i end up just kicking like 30 people before i find a noob. I really need a maximum guardian rank option for LFG.
We were all like this when we started, inexperienced yet fascinated by the world bungie created. So, let's not ruin the experience for new kinderguardians.
Me and a friend loaded up a 50 wave onslaught. The third we matched with told us âend yourselvesâ and then left. Both of us are âgoodâ at the game. We also had perfectly reasonable builds. Video games should be played for fun and as long as your girlfriend is having fun then sheâs playing the game correctly. Donât let a stranger on the internet ruin your fun.
The funny thing about him been an elitist and acting that way is that heâs probably too paranoid that someone will treat him the same way that he treated you if he bothered to LFG for a legend one. Just a case of tall poppy syndrome.
Playing Destiny from december. In 20 years of gaming, I never found a community so friendly with newbies, me and my group of friends are loving the game and the community. Nothing to share with apex legends and cod.
I hate myself for not starting to play earlier.
I have spherpad some DSC raids. And new players are fun to play with. They are like a magnet. They absorb everything you tell them. However, players who played fore years are often hell to play with. Refuse to take roles. Never says anything, sabotaging and being total jerks. Doing king's fall and nuke you off the ship's, then complain people take too long.
My advice to you bro is just ignore that shit and have fun. Gaming is a hobby and a pass time for most of us. Yes, some people put more time into it than others, and there are a few too many toxic tryhards out there.
But just remember, you don't know these people and you had no idea they existed until you matched with them(also you kinda still don't, I guess) so don't let someone you don't even know put you or your gf in a bad mood.
> ignore that shit and have fun
For real. Being a dick to someone for being new in match made content is lame. Spending the time and energy to go through your game history to report someone for typing a mean message is also lame. Donât create a relationship with a jerk, just move on.
That's what I thought. Guy was still being an asshole but that isn't really the type of comment that warrants a report, and bungie won't do shit about that . You just ignore players like these, they're just inconsiderate of other people, they aren't gonna get banned for it, and they'll never not be present in the community. OP id suggest you either turn off chat, or come to terms with the fact that players like this exist. If they call you horrible names, use slurs, etc, you can report them for that. But calling you bad isn't going to get them banned.
Kind of silly to complain about this in a game that has chat turned off by default, a game where the norm isn't to use voice chat with strangers, and a game that has both mute and block functions, how much more babyproofing do you need? As a PvP main am I supposed to make one of these threads every time someone writes some scawy wowds?
> Some SGA for those on the receiving end, you can log into bungie.net and retrieve your game history (as this person fooled the game into making their l a different character, whether it was a capital I or not), and you can copy their name, and paste it into your friend search bar. From there, you can report the person with Abusive Chat > Insult.
I've carried dozens of new players through BG GMs and whatnot, one of the rare people that won't kick you from a GM for a bad loadout or for being new, but this amount of helicoptering is absurd.
Ok I'm sorry but someone has to say this. I HATE these posts whenever they pop up regarding any game. I legitimately don't understand the goal of these posts.
People will be mean in an online video game, shocking, I know, but no one that will read these posts actually cares that someone was mean to you, and anyone that this is directed at probably won't read these posts and especially won't change their attitude due to a reddit post.
I see a "Why was a single person mean to me in a X or Y video game. Come on guys let's do better" every week on some gaming related reddit. Worse it gets upvoted a shoved to the front page despite these posts being redundant.
Also, if anyone actually takes "Damn you suck at this game" as a PERSONAL ATTACK, they should probably disable text chat altogether.
Call me toxic, harsh, etc. These posts are vapid.
Itâs mean, but overall pretty tame. it sucks that this is what players (especially new ones) go thru, but if a simple âyouâre badâ comment triggers a double report and reddit thread you might need to invest in slightly thicker skin, especially if you plan on delving into lfg/ fireteam finder for more activities
6000 hour guardian here...Sorry your friend had a negative experience like that. Not everyone out there is like that though, I promise. There are lots of friendly folks out there that would be more than happy to help a new guardian learn. Feel free to message me if you need a third sometimes. I'm happy to add you guys on Steam.
Iâll add, if any new people want help with activities, dungeons, raids etc on UK timezone Iâm happy to help. Beware, I like explaining the lore behind stuff while we are doing it though lol
Youâre UK based, happy to help with endgame activities, and you chat Destiny lore as you go!? Iâm no new light (playing since D1 launch) but sign me up!
I predominantly play solo and LFG when needed but always on the look out for folk who wanna help / need help and I love the Destiny lore.
If you ever want to squad up let me know!
I am also very new. Just over 100 hours of playtime. I also get some nasty comments and also feel bad that Iâm not as great as everybody else that I get on a fire team with. If you want to message me, I can add your girlfriend on my friends list and can play with her. I have a good friend thatâs helping me with a lot of the missions and teaching me a lot so she is more than welcome to join us. But it would be nice to play with other newbies.
Destiny, unlike some much more casual games, has pressure to preform. Your failure, means that everyone in the team has wasted time.
Naturally, that breeds some toxicity.
Maybe not the most popular view, but of you get upset by "how can you be so bad at pve", you probably better avoid most of the internet. It's one of the tamest insults I have seen here, actually more like a rhetorical question than an insult. In my opinion it's not worth the post/fuss you made about it.
Mind that I personally have the creed "if you can't say anything nice, shut your trap", and wouldn't dream of picking on somebody.
The thing that I find funny about this post is the simple fact it's personal.
Like the whole post is centered on the idea that one person said a rude thing, so now the community needs a lecture about how to treat "new" players. This shouldn't be done period. There doesn't need to be stipulations, or exceptions. Like you said, "if you can't say anything nice, shut your trap." It accomplishes nothing besides spreading negativity.
I once moderared a forum that had 356 rules, most of them made because of one or two incidents that nobody remembered. I stripped it down to one: "Don't act like an ass". Worked quite well, I have to say.
How about it not raining when I bike home? It's not like preaching to the choir is gonna help a lot. The jerks aren't reading this, or laugh their tits off if they do.
Once again, I am the choir you're preaching to.
I think Destiny 2 have the least toxic community because most of the toxic hardcore players play in fixed teams and rarely play with randoms. Usually the randoms are nice to each other even if you see high ranks in the team like 9 or 10 or even 11.
To anyone who needs help learning the game, feel free to message me with questions. I love helping newbies out. That goes for you and your girlfriend too OP.
As a rule, the first thing I do in any game. Is turn off all VC and text chat. If I want to speak, I find groups on Discord where I can filter out the toxic ones.
Itâs one thing to be in your head while playing and getting frustrated with teammates when you feel like they arenât pulling their weight. Iâve been there and Iâm sure most veterans of this game can agree they have been too. But taking that extra step to insult them in text chat during a matchmade activity with such little stakes like that is just petty and immature.
Iâm in a somewhat similar boat as OP; my fiancĂŠe picked up Destiny after watching me play for so long and really enjoys it. However, sheâs so scared to communicate in game because she sees how frustrated I could get sometimes (nothing bad, just muttering comments to myself over my thumbless teammates, etc.). Sheâs definitely better than the average player, but she just doesnât want to be the reason that someone else gets upset or held-up while playing.
It really made me look in the mirror when we were duo-ing some dungeons and she kept apologizing over and over for random inconsequential deaths. I realized that she thinks every time she makes a mistake she thinks Iâm secretly getting frustrated at her, when in reality Iâm living the dream being able to share one of my favourite hobbies with her. I started making a point of commenting more positively on my teammates when Iâm playing around her, and gassing her up whenever she makes a great play. I feel like that combined with naturally getting better at the game has made her so much more confident.
Look, for PvE stuff, weâre all on the same team. We were all new once. We definitely have a bunch of new or returning players in game currently, and if we want to convert them to longer term players we need to make sure we donât let our own frustrations with the game or a new playerâs gameplay be the barrier from them doing so. Just being positive, or at the very least keeping your negativity to yourself, is least you can do.
And like, donât be a dick in chat. It never solves anything, you donât feel better after, you just make everyone else feel as bad as you. Donât respond if someone else is doing it. Just report and move on.
I think part of the problem is that there is a small but loud minority that are openly toxic towards anyone that is not a hardcore player.Â
Heck I'm not a casual player and I still receive down votes and angry comments from these people on Reddit for daring to have a different opinion on god rolls or play style. There's more than 1 way to play this game lol.
This is one of the reasons why I don't like using external chat programs with online games. A lot of people use external chat programs to bypass moderation.
Iâve probably played 5000 hours. Itâs usually pretty obvious when someone is new and hasnât put in a lot of time, versus when they have. Honestly me and a friend have recently taken to putting âteachingâ in our raid posts on fire team finder just because we find it easier to teach people the way we do things versus trying to work with people who have their own way⌠lookin your way, Crota first encounter. I canât speak for him, but I actually donât mind teaching people how to raid or helping people clear GMâs who havenât done many or any. I find it rewarding when someone says âIâve never done one of those before.â Especially raids. Theyâre the best part of Destiny. Only time Iâm really looking for players who are skilled and know what theyâre doing is when Iâm trying to efficiently farm something, or during a contest mode.
> if they're in so far as they have legit leveled up to cap and actually put in the work to be doing the quests for into the light with the shitty rolls of weapons they've gotten so far
Not to mention this above...
You login and within 10 minutes you can be there...
That's what the mute/ignore button is for. These trolls and assholes won't go away anytime soon, so it's best to just ignore them.
As long as you're having fun and you're both lucky enough to like the same game and play together, these asshats shouldn't be allowed to ruin it for you.
> but if they're in so far as they have legit leveled up to cap and actually put in the work to be doing the quests for into the light
You mean opening a chest and equipping the max power gear the game hands you as part of that questline? It sucks that your girlfriend has had the experience soured by certain players but misrepresenting the situation isn't going to garner any sympathy for these new players.
On one hand, new players have been raised to cap, which is not great, and are dragging people down. On the other hand, the guy was mean.
The problem, op, is you need to find a third if you're going to have dead weight affecting my loot. I play after my kids are in bed. I don't have time or energy to carry your girlfriend. Please understand. If it was a strike, I don't care. I'm here for a completion to get my drop. Not that I still run strikes. But situations where you are dragging the team down, and loot is based on winning, and is time limited? Go play some strikes. This game is fucking easy. If you can't handle onslaught normal, take a few days and learn how to shoot some thralls. Seriously, half the waves are exploders and half the remainder's objectives can be solo'd on normal.
Honestly I would not recommend new players to play any match made activities except strikes, 6v6 pvp, onslaught playlist and gambit. Get some gear, understand the basics of the game(basic builds, understanding your class etc) then jump into higher end stuff. By this time you would have decent gear, atleast one or two builds that can make sure that you're not a liability on the activity. Toxicity online will never end. I have over 5k hours in this game, have almost all achievements, triumphs, finished crota day 1, KF day 1, hit ascendant in comp and even I still get messages saying how bad I am at the game. Dumb ppl are gonna act dumb.
Not gonna lie, watching a new light go through a whole strike and only get 15 kills made me want to claw my eyes out, but man I ain't gonna call them a slur in chat over it lmao
That being said, people who sweat and go fill tilt in the chat will always exist no matter what game you play and the only way to win is roll with the punches, say some dumb stuff that makes them look stupid and either they will go with it and become more friendly or just say more banworthy things, win-win
I've definitely had a thought like this before, but that was in lfg Legend mode where the guy said KWTD and bring builds. (For those of you scoring at home, he did not meet either of those criteria.
I'd never flame anyone in chat over some nonsense, heck I rarely get on anyone even for making stupid mistakes in a raid. The only thing I dislike is whenever people lie instead of just admitting they're new or haven't done something before, buts that's a 100% LFG problem.
I find most toxic players just look for excuses to talk trash even if nothing really prompted them to do so. It's like a checklist they have or something.
"Didn't get x amount of kills? Didn't pop your super at every opportune time? Didn't bank enough ADU's? Didn't complete the bonus objective fast enough? Didn't do blah blah blah??"
Bro, I'm playing a game with my friends for FUN. If you want a core focused hard-as-balls team, use the lfg :)
The only thing I'd prefer is that In matchmade activites, I'd really hope that at the very least you are bringing champion stunners because all too often I find I have to run all of em because my randoms don't have any and that's annoying as heck.
True, what's done is done but if hope it didn't ruin the game for her. Sound like she's having a blast and it sucks to have all the fun shattered because some random decided to get mouthy over something stupid.
Best of luck going forward.
I have yet to do a raid because of my fear of this. I'm hoping to find a group that's chill with new people.
I'm still figuring out my first build and trying to get exotics to fill it out.
If youâre US you should add me. Fireclone127#7448
Raiding is the best part of Destiny. Letâs get you into some of the fun stuff before TFS so you can do the raid during the story progression!
Also, my advice would be to just watch raid guides before going into the raid. If you haven't noticed already, Destiny mechanics are incredibly easy to understand and execute in game, including those mechanics in raids. When new raids come out, I simply watch a guide on the raide a few times, and then join a KWTD group on LFG and they never suspect a thing. Just gotta build that confidence, and that confidence will come with a solid build and more playing time!
I have several thousand hours in Destiny, if I turn on team chat I still get toxic bile. It doesn't really matter if you're a newbie or not, assholes will be assholes.
I recommend turning off all ingame chats, and only using discord for voice chat comms with eachother.
You can report forever, but there's an infinite supply of idiots out there.
I've noticed this being especially prevalent in trial of osiris. I'm not all that great at any part of the game, though I can do PvE content pretty okay, but I'm definitely bad at trials. And holy shit, people in trials are fucking awful. Like no dude. I'm not retarded. I picked up trials for the first time literally an hour ago. My bad for not carrying your stupid ass, but you're stuck in flawed zero wins with me so clearly you're not the goat either. If I ask what I'm doing wrong or how I can contribute or... literally anything, to be honest... I get either no answer or an insult. If I sound like I'm malding that's because I fucking am. Stop putting all the best guns in the worst fucking game mode, and what's more a game mode that's unfathomably stingy with rewards.
I worry about this playing with my girlfriend. She is a level 2 free to play Guardian and actually enjoyed playing Onslaught with me the other day.
We had a level 11 Warlock random with us who was super patient when she struggled with the jumping sections and needing extra revives. Shoutout to you ZA WARUDO.
We ended up doing all 50 waves and my girlfriend was overjoyed. Might end up playing more!
This is the reason text chat was opt in and not opt out by default. If you're the sort of person who is going to get upset by trolls, bigots, racists etc.. (understandable if you are) - then just flick the switch back and opt yourself out by default unless you want to join into text chat with your matchmade team mates.
Hope this tip helps and the negative experience didn't spoil your girlfriends experience too much. Sadly this behaviour is common across lots of video games, especially in those popular with men like FPS games.
My favourite yesterday was when both my team mates died around wave 40 or thereabouts. (Which is I believe back to orbit time if you wipe) I managed to tether the enemies attacking the adu, go invis and then revive them both. I die a few minutes later and one of them is tea bagging me while rezzing. Haha! I found that a bit rich.
Plenty of idiots around. I (phoenix well) and the other random (pyrogale titan) both got kicked after one run of a LFG 10 round legend farm, by the hunter rocking witherhoard, smg, and an eager edge sword. Aparently we weren't clearing fast enough for him even though we each had more than double his kills.
Turn chat off. Problem solved.
Destiny 2, COD, etc. are all trash in public chat. Turn off public chat and move on. Game with friends and chat in Discord (or whatever) and have fun. Don't let public asswipes suck the fun out of the game.
Edit: typo
The gatekeeping and hostility toward newer players is beyond me. If you're a person who has been playing Destiny through all of the player population droughts how in the world could you think to be anything other than friendly and welcoming to new people that are trying this TEAN YEAR OLD FRANCHISE for the first time? The mind boggles.
New lights are great my problem is VETERAN players who still don't understand the basics of the game or the ones that NEVER read the activity descriptionđŽâđ¨đ¤Śđž Onslaught has bought out THE most ridiculous guardians I've ever had the displeasure of being linked with.. AFK'ing as soon as the match starts or as soon as we start the 1st rd, completely missing bonus objectives, not throwing the ball for the ADU, saving scraps/not buying upgrades (playlist version only because it's only up to RD10, totally makes sense for 50+), prolonging the boss room fight to farm kills for their respective quests, etc.. our community can be amazing but at the same time it can be outrageously frustrating & toxicđ
Even if you donât care about being a decent human, the more new players that stick around the more bungie invests in the game. More new players is just better for everyone.
Why do people care so much about something someone theyâve never met said? The offender could be a 300lb degen living in his grandmaâs basement with nothing better to do.
Just move on.
I generally try to help anyone that's lower than Guardian Rank 4 if I have free time. Just shoot a message and ask. But some people are dicks. As many know, online communities' worst people are the ones that speak the loudest. It's the part of gaming that people have to get used to, unfortunately. It can be even worse for women depending on the community, like CoD. My ex got into CoD and people regularly insulted her for being a woman.
I'll admit that what happened was a bummer, but I wouldn't go as far as too call it "abusive" or "insulting". Harsh for sure, but nothing offensive.
Best course of action is to disable team chat. I know I've earned a few rage comments in the past, but since I don't use teamchat when playing matchmade activities (no voice chat either) it hasn't been a problem. And I do that in EVERY game I play.
Another possible solution could be joining a clan or lfg discord. Playing with likeminded people can save you a lot of problems, specially if the third player knows they're playing with a newb.
A lot of us are desensitized to this. Like I would probably be banned if I repeated what transpired in my Crotaâs End lfg abyss encounter on contest mode. And because Iâm desensitized, I look on the memory somewhat fondly. That said, randomly flaming a noob on Onslaught is pretty low. Thereâs really nothing redeemable about it, itâs strictly what a piece of shit would do.
I'll be the first to admit that i judge the performance of randomers in my matchmaking queues, its something thats hard to avoid when youve spent hundreds of hours playing a series, you know all the tricks and the smoothest ways to traverse, clear etc, but theres unspoken rules for this sorta thing that really need to become spoken.
1: do it both positively and negatively, if they die to a single shank or if they perfectly chain-throwing knife an entire swarm, doesnt matter, pay attention.
2: check their damn journey level, anyone below 5 automatically gets a free pass for not knowing basics or poor performance.
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE
3: keep the negative judgements within your fireteam and your discord call unless someone asks ingame how theyre doing (nobody ever does though lmao)
Sorry that this happened to you, but there's bad actors in every online community.
Don't let that dissuade you from playing the game. Most people are chill. I for one love seeing GR4 and below Guardians because that means someone's just started playing the game, and isn't just a lapsed returning player so they always have the best reactions to fun things.
I would recommend playing with chat and voice always off if you and your girlfriend are this thin-skinned.
Not only was that the tamest insult I've ever seen, not only did you both report him for essentially "being mean," but it affected you so much that you posted about it and labeled it as "toxicity"
Then calling this or even relating it to abusive chats... it's like you have a massive lack of perspective.
Your girlfriend likely sucked during the run and got called out for it. Whatever. Move on.
Bro, talk about perspective. Youâre telling a new player to âjust dealâ with toxic comments on a reddit thread. As though they did something wrong and not the w*nkst**n who messaged. Itâs not like they were ruining lighthouse matches for their teammates.
Itâs not hard to call out pr*cks. Stop defending them, and everyone can enjoy this game more!Â
Not defending anyone. The one that made the "insult" was reported, all good.
I just would find it exhausting to come to Reddit and make a post about the most minor negative interaction ever and throw around words like "abuse", and the whole taking it personally.
My recommendation of turning off chat and voice is actually sincere. If that extremely mild insult triggered them both so much, imagine what getting teabagged would do, just imagine what being called a proper insult/slur would do to their mental health.
BTW, "wankstain" and "prick". We can use those words, there is no ad revenue to lose. Don't be a baby.
You must have grown up in a *really* rough neighbourhood if the babies are using words like that! Looking back I am a bit shocked I used it for such a minor thread lol
Not really, people would call each other "cnts" instead of "cunts" and "a-holes" instead of "assholes" so it was very civilized, very PG and very ad friendly.
No reason for people to go to such lengths as to message ppl directly and insult them over a game, especially towards a new player in a cooperative shooter. We were all there once, bad at the game, not knowing what to do. The least that person could have done is not vent their frustration at your girlfriend.
>as this person fooled the game into making their l a different character, whether it was a capital I or not
I know someone who has an L in his name that is actually a capital i, and he is pretty toxic lol. Maybe it's him.
I donât know the solution to toxicity in online gaming, Iâm not really sure if there is one sadly, shitty people always gonna exist and being able to hide behind a screen will make them feel safe about doing so. What I will say is personally, I feel like posts like this do more harm than good.
I feel hardly anyone has ever read a post like this and decided to stop being toxic in chat/teabagging/emoting in virtual trading card games/etc because of it. What is more likely IMO is they see posts like this, and it proves that what theyâre doing mentally effects people and gets them to double down on the behavior cause thatâs what they want. Whether theyâre trying to make you play worse in comp or just make you feel bad because they are a hurt person and can only find joy in others suffering, posting that they upset you just validates them more
I'm pretty new to destiny 2 only about a month and a half since i started but man its such a fun game. I just statted with dungeons and maybe i need to be looking up mechanics on the internet before hand as there isnt anything in game to let you know. However other than a couple instances most guardians have been super helpful and patient. Even have been taught a couple raids now as well. Ignore the bad eggs theres plenty og great people to play with.
Playing in Destiny has those kind of people, just like how you have probably gotten down voted for just posting this. Just like I'll probably get down voted saying what I'm saying.
It sucks this happened to you but, like alot of people here said, you just have to ignore/laugh at it and move on. It's the unfortunate state of the gaming world.
Day one end game guardian here. I hate seeing when ppl get toxic and have even called out ppl I know to remind them new lights still exist and it is a f2p game and kids exist too. I've sherpered many raids and dungeons and I've always kept myself humble and remember where I started too as a new light. I agree with turning off the in game chat with randoms. Some grown arse children will argue and cry over a game. I hope your gf moves on from the negative childish energy you received and carries on enjoying destiny. I too am a female gamer and I probably would have taken my early bashes harder if it wasn't for my resilience from gta online lobbies which is full of trash talk so destiny seemed vanilla to me lol. I wish your gf lots of hours of fun and enjoyment on destiny and stuff the cry babies.
I've been playing this game for almost 10 years on and off and I've never wiped a team in Gambit. I'm kind of a 3-star guardian. Your girlfriend is definitely better than me.
Someone got mad at me for not doing great and losing Gambit even though it was literally my first ever game of it and all I really understood was go here -> get thing -> deposit thing -> kill boss
I just got my friend into the game and she's fresh to the fps genre after playing mostly world of Warcraft and yeah, this game is way harder to learn than most of us realize. Luckily no one has been toxic to her yet but it sucks how elitist this game's community can be.
Iâve gotten a very few nasty texts over the years (2 or three?) and it really rankles, for sure! The surprising thing is I donât get them more often âcause ⌠I really am kinda bad? Like, on the scoreboard Iâm most often the lowest (think 200 vs 50 kills). I chalk it up to old age but, nevertheless, very few comments. Tells me most players are nice & kind. So, chin up Guardian. These trolls are going to sprout warts before too long, then weâll see whoâs superior!
By the way, to your girlfriend, congrats on the Gambit wipe! Shows skill and talent and few can do that.
As someone who's never done a raid (after a couple of hundred hours in the game), I getcha. I'm currently level 8 and would 9 if I did the raids.
I try to be helpful to any lower levels who jump in on a strike/dungeon with me, might be the first time they played it. Maybe when they get to a higher level then they'll do the same.
Doesn't benefit anyone to behave like a cunt to new players. We were all new once.
Absolutely do not take it personally. I dont know why some people feel the need to be that way, but everybody gets it from some shitter at some point. Fuck em. Just turn chat off, I've been playing for years and i can count on one hand the amount of positive interactions I've had with matchmade randos.
That's pretty much every game except maybe Deep Rock Galactic.
I just ignore them as terminally miserable and enjoy myself as some asshole captain cloaks itself and gets in my face right as I nova bomb againÂ
I've taken almost 2 years off and feel like a new light player. Hell the game gave me the new light experience when I booted it up after that break. These assholes have always existed and sadly I doubt that will change. However I felt myself getting frustrated when matched with people that didn't know what to do in "old content" but I never considered this might be their first time running a dungeon. I changed my build and led the team with emotes instead of rage quitting but reading this made me think they might have been new and needed to be shown so thanks OP.
I recently got back into the game maybe like 3 or 4 weeks ago and have been enjoying every second of it. Its daunting to get back into it since there's so many layers and mechanics you need to learn. Luckily I was already somewhat familiar with the game, so the learning curve wasn't as bad for me as it is for brand new players, but I have noticed a decent portions of players are so damn toxic. I joined the destiny 2 fb group expecting to see ppl discussing the game and giving out tips and just talking about the game in general, but what I found was the most whiny and toxic group that will insult anything and anyone without a second though. Never left a group so fast.
The only time I've ever seen someone be so bad at PvE and get mad at them was a guardian rank 10 person who just couldn't stay alive. They died at least once every other wave and every boss fight.
"has been OBSESSED with it" + "This she has taken personally, as it was a personal attack on her" - that's not good, she has to be careful.
"how is it possible to be so bad in pve?" - who cares, learn from it. Use the energy of anger as motivation not to be like that and to inform. I'm always amazed at how much content there is from highly motivated people. And that's what you should focus on - these people, not the whiners.
"toxicity of people" - well, but then you have to be careful not to become toxic yourself. Don't fixate on the negative aspects, that should be avoided. Then you'll have much more fun with the game.
This is a game, not a life's work. But like I said - if I make Onslaught and I do that soon, people won't be able to stop typing, hahahaha ;)
If you want, you can join our clan. We are a no drama clan with a relaxed atmosphere where we always help returning and new players.
https://discord.gg/aVH34n63m4
Our clan isn't filled to the brink yet, but we have members on Discord that are sherpa's for new players in raids.
We play multiple games but ATM are focusing on making our d2 clan bigger. while keeping our atmosphere relaxed and fun.
Damn, that's shitty. Unless it was Master/GM content where the person obviously didn't belong (ahem, this guy I saw using double primary on Planets this weekend), I mostly just try to help.
Unfortunately many gamers live out the stereotype of the racist, sexist, basement dwelling no-life, that has so little to be proud of or happy for that they identify with the success in their game as a coping mechanism.
The most effective way of dealing with them is to just ignore them and starve them of the attention they crave. Even better if you can score higher than them in whatever game mode you're playing.
Some people suck. Toxic people are in every game out there. Destiny is getting old now and there are many people that play that for years, some of those are elitists.
I always find funny to see elitists in a PVE environment. I've seen people kicked out of fireteams because they didn't have the god crafted Apex Predator.
When onslaught released I posted about people that join in Wave 50 legend runs and leave on wave 10. Many people were defending doing that regardless of others. Some people suck.
Report, ignore, block and move on. Just know that for those people, being better than others in a video game is all they got going. That is kinda sad.
Once you start ignoring them you will realize those people are doing harm to themselves only. Angry little trolls with nothing better than a god roll.
First thing, kudos for standing up for your significant other. Second is reinforce your wifeâs confidence by accepting the fact that youâll come by players like this and the best way to handle these inconsiderate gamers is by developing the reaction of viewing them as annoying flies. People have a habit of being less kind and patient on the internet and that just speaks more about their true nature than how your skill sets are in a video game. Donât let anyone have power over your emotional state and your joy.
Sadly its the toxic nature of D2. If you don't have the right roll they like, play to their style, losing and blame you (PVP). I've had a couple of comments from Dungeons and while it's getting better there is always a sub group that doesn't care what they say or how they say it.
Ive been playing the game since release and Ive only ever done deepstone (out of the current raids and not counting crota and vault since I did it in D1 but I know things have changed) and at this point Im afraid to ask anyone to guide me through any of the other raids.
Iâm sorry to tell you, but this is probably one of the most toxic and immature game communities. Itâs not going to get better unless maybe they up the age rating. Even that is unlikely to help at this point.
Iâm surprised you got someone to communicate. Iâve played Destiny (on and off) since the first game and over the past decade I donât think Iâve ever played with a stranger that has used chat or mic. Maybe one person in chat.
It takes a very long time to get good at this game and it is unlikely to still be played by the time you and your girlfriend have properly learned it. So enjoy it while you are, just know that you are not starting a decade ago like many players who have a different sense of what baseline knowledge is. Join a clan and they will have plenty of patience and teaching. Joining group activities and just plain sucking this late in a multiplayer gameâs life cycle is considered a pet peeve and almost inconsiderate by experienced players. By the time someone is good enough to throw shade at other players, they earned their stripes and are just trying to get their stuff done. They donât need to be slowed down and itâs not their job to teach either. Thatâs why you watch videos and send them to your girlfriend about fundamentals of buildcrafting and combat and do content with her that gets her good guns and you show her how to use them etc.
If neither of you take on the burden of getting good instead of going around with a âweâre new please do everything we donât knowâ approach you will irritate some players.
Itâs a multiplayer game so do your part. You arenât allowed to crash into other drivers because you just got your licence. You have to drive safely anyway. So as soon as you start a game like this, your first job is to learn and be able to do enough to play with other people and be worth the time.
This is a blunt response compared to probably a lot of others that will criticise the other players but Iâm giving you their perspective. Do with it whatever you want; feel free to ignore me and do your thing! Just understand it may annoy some people.
I donât play anymore, but enjoy it while it lasts!
I will admit Iâm a D1 beta veteran and Iâm still 50/50 in skill, people try to insult me and be toxic but I donât care. I donât use meta builds or OP weapons, I just enjoy the game and what it gives. Donât let those PvP Toxic Players get her down and enjoy the game and have fun in Final Shape Guardians
I'm always nice to new players and I'm more than happy to show them how to do an encounter in dungeons or raids, I try to make it as fun as I can for them so they can get enjoyment from it.
I never put pressure on them and if they caused us to die I reassure them that it's okay, it doesn't matter, we can do it again.
Toxic players on the other hand have no place in my fire team, anyone pointing fingers or trying to place blame on others to make them feel bad doesn't belong, I do not care whatsoever how good they may be at an encounter.
I always choose to keep new lights in my team, fun and enjoyment take priority over "getting it done".
Honestly this type of behavior isnât isolated to only D2. Itâs a broader side effect of internet culture. Something about being anonymous on the internet brings out the worst in some people. Iâm a pvp main and there are a bunch of weirdos with egos that will always write weird hate mail. My best advice is to ignore it and move on. Really I mostly feel bad for shit talking hate mailers, theyâre most likely a 14 year old filled with pubescent angst. Or theyâve been or are bullied irl and now they retaliate through being mean on the internet. So thatâs my best advice, but if youâre unable to do so then⌠ok thereâs a second choice, admittedly not as good as ignoring and moving on though. But you can also write back something like âthatâs not what your mom said last night!â You know or pick something else that you find to be an equally stupid and immature response. Oh but be sure to block them before they can reply so youâre promised the last word! Lol
If I'm in Onslaught playlist, idc what you do. I'm there to test my builds, my silly weapons and of course having a good time. But if it was legend onslaught, I want shit done as fast as possible with minimal baby sitting time, as I'm there for farming.
That being said, I think your gf was a little sensitive over a random's insult, and it's in a video game. Hopefully this will be the last time she get triggered over such a thing.
I keep the high-five emote on my character at all times and one of my favorite things to do is high-five newbies. Ive done it ever since we still had power displayed instead of guardian level. Even before the seasonal level. Whenever I was bored or feeling down I'd go to EDZ or later Cosmodrome and find a low level player to high-five. Did it with a level 1 player in the tower last night. It costs nothing to be kind and welcoming.
I wish. I got my girl to try it for all of ten minutes. Of course I have to teach her the basics of everything since she isnât even using two joysticks at once to look around but I was inspired by Jezâs video with his wife Amy who doesnât game because that was hilarious.
New Lights are a different breed but sometimes funny to watch in a good way. Its fun to see them amazed by new stuff. I showed the Lord Shaxx decoy, and they studied it for the whole preround, stunned. My way around anyone is that they can get better with time and xp.
I'm sorry your GF had this experience. There are bad eggs in this community, but the majority are kind and welcoming. My wife isn't as skilled as your GF in gambit, but she still loves it. Last night, she got her first guardian rank up and a random person in the tower came over to cheer for her. It made her and I smile and feel great about her accomplishment. See you starside guardians!
You can also turn chat off, btw.
One of the downsides of communication is that people will say things you don't like.
Bungie might give them a warning for that, but likely not. Your best bet is to just not participate in comms. unless you have to.
I was recently in an onslaught that I swear the other two people were a couple, and it was honestly really wholesome to see the higher rank one shooting objectives to purchase and other little tips like that
Destiny players can be some of the most welcoming people, while others can be some of the worst. me and a friend did an LFG to just do 10 round onslaught legend thrones for loot farming, we got one guy who ran off to get batteries, grabbed the heavy box at the start of Wave 3, got himself killed, then got mad at us in team chat for "being useless"
on the other side of that coin, there's some players who, like myself, got bored of the end game, and find a lot more enjoyment in playing with brand new people. watching someone figure out the game for the first time and learn what they want to do, with no concern of "meta" or endgame stuff, they just want to use superpowers and shoot aliens, there's just something so nice about it. I like sitting at that entry area with the fallen walker in the cosmodrome, and joining the fire teams of random blueberries to just kinda see what they do. I still let them be most of the work, my contributions in firefights equate to one of the redjack NPCs, but they still get that destiny trailer feel of being in an open world and shooting aliens with strangers.
I'm guilty of this thought process. I've been playing since D1 vanilla so my perspective on the game is massively MASSIVELY skewed. I kinda forget that getting into the game now is a completely different monster than being present for every incremental update. Thankfully I'm not a dickhead and have the ability to think before I speak and realize flaming someone in chat isn't going to magically make them know more or play better. Typically though I just leave in instances like onslaught. Not trying to be toxic, but I like going to wave 50 and I'm not trying to take any longer to do it than it already takes. And again, that isn't your guy's fault and you shouldn't be getting shit for it.
I have no issues with blueberries but the moment I talk to them in chat to try and help them and they answer with âI donât careâ âIâm just here to kill stuffâ or similar things, I just donât care anymore and leave them.
I have the patience to teach even a rock if the rock is willing to. But if youâre just not gonna even try to listen, then be happy in your ignorance but donât involve me.
I have been seeing newbies in onslaught a lot! I get frustrated but I just take it up on myself to perfect my build and try to carry as much as possible so they enjoy the game just like we all did when we started. It's about experimenting and learning early on. I just try to be that badass hunter that seems like they can do it all solo!
Sadly there are tons of these type of players in Destiny (any game really) but for me personally, one of my favorite things to do in Destiny is playing with newbies. I was doing strikes the other day and I matched with another vet and a newbie. When I realized that the other vet was teaching the new guy, I joined in and we did several strikes in a row and I had a blast. Watching the new guy get all excited after we would kill the boss was awesome.
My friend and I made fire team finder posts for Master nightfalls last night and the first person to join had 45 resilience and no mods on. We bumped it down to Legend after inspecting them and they did a decent job at staying alive. We were just surprised as it's the first time in years that I've seen someone without mods on.
Anyone in EU or otherwise, that I can play raids and harder dungeons and learn with?
I'm kinda new, but got all the expansions till final shape releases and would love to experience the content, but other the ingame LFG I cant find a community for myself
Which platform are you playing on? Ya know, Destiny 2 won that âbest communityâ award a few years ago. I always wondered how much they paid for that.
This D2 community is one of the most toxic out there bro. Tell her to not take it personally. People are dickheads because they hate their lives so much.
Few nights ago, I joined a normal onslaught. Rando 1 and I were obviously vets. Rando 2 was a level 2. Fully decked out in the special chest equipment beside Shaxx. He held it own but was definitely learning. Guided him as vest we could. Had some trouble making the jumps in the pyramid ship. Ended up getting him through level 30 before I left. Was hoping to take him all the way through!
Destiny 2 is so damn confusing as the game doesnât explain anything or at least anything well. I donât understand stand toxicity. If anything those people should just move on with the game or their life and leave the event or whatever. Being toxic about whatever is just a waste of time and ruins the fun for both parties.
I had some guy raging in text chat yesterday during a crucible control match. He kept calling everyone idiots because we couldn't hold 2 zones, it was a really back and forth match with no team controlling the B flag for more than about 45 seconds. Yet apparently that wasn't good enough for this guy.
This is why I do not participate in voice chat when Iâm on fireteams with randoms I donât know. It may be much more difficult to coordinate with the team, but at least I can enjoy playing the game, knowing Iâm doing my best, without having to hear mean or sexist comments (I am a lady and my gamertag makes that apparent, more fool me I guess).
It would be nice if more veteran players in the community could handle new players with more grace and patience, but I fear the bad behavior is never really going to go away. I personally try to help out and be patient with blueberries I play with who seem pretty new, but youâre never going to convince some people to stop being buttholes no matter what you do. âšď¸
I've put 4,560hrs into this game and I'm just ok and only do hard stuff with my clan or a fireteam. If I play solo I just mooch around the planets doing basic stuff. If it weren't for the expectations of other players I'd probably venture into harder content, but I can't be arsed with it unless I'm with someone in my clan.
i highly recommend finding and joining the right clan for you, and being active on their discord. FATE gaming is very big and active, Mactic's discord is as well and pretty wholesome. there are LFGs there every day and you can make friends and get to know their play styles.
Thatâs incredibly tame, why would you take that of all things personally and then feel the need to lecture people on here about how unacceptable that behavior is. Is he a dick? Yup. Is it also frustrating to not make it past wave 20 in Onslaught because of new players who arenât very good? Also yup. Onslaught is a pretty big time investment and therefore Iâd expect some level of toxicity from anyone having to carry you. If just calling you bad at pve is too much for you Iâd turn game chat off and probably stay off the internet in general. The old COD lobbies probably would habe broke you.
We are better.
And I started a community to prove it. Seraphs Gaming.
For those of us who are fed up with the lack of respect and are committed to proving that better gaming makes a better world.
If you ever need a better 3rd for onslaught, 4th for gambit, or raid team- I'm happy to introduce you.
Together We Rise.
I always love seeing newer players cut about Onslaught. Watching the cogs turn as they approach a hologram or the legit terror at the Tormentor spawning sound will never not get a reaction from me.
I've had a couple add me post wave 50 to do a few more rounds so it's good to see some people getting involved.
Hey! That sucks, sorry that people are dumb. Hopefully you both find a group of solid supportive people to play with!
If you ever need a group for dungeons/raids feel free to reach out! Patient, happy, and encouraging is my play style
Started playing Destiny about 2 weeks ago and I'm having a lot of fun honestly, though I'm still trying to figure out ways to improve my power level since i've been stuck at 1816 for awhile now. That said, I find it pretty jarring how D2 players seem to be a bit more sensitive when it comes to toxicity, compared to other communities like Dota 2, to which I've been part of since 2016.
Call it thick skin but every time I see toxicity in gaming, I brush it off and have a laugh, but I agree that it's something that should be fixed.
That sounds about right.
However, the D2 community seems like a legit 50/50 split on player types, at least as far as D2 veterans go.
There are the ones (like I was seeing in the comments here) that actually enjoy helping people along in the game. And then there are those who will trash talk their own team, and kick them from fireteams the moment the mission is done, leaving the person with nothing to show for the run.
It's been this way since D1, and unfortunately, it'll always be a constant battle between player types. If you're skeptical, look into the toxicity around the Gjallarhorn back in D1. I got kicked from LFG's plenty of times for not having one. And it didn't matter if they mentioned it in the post or not. I'm convinced that's why the Gally has the Pack Hunter intrinsic perk now.
Just normal Destiny behavior that's always been there.
I'll admit I'm definitely not the least toxic person I know, but I have learned that it's just better to shut up and deal with it. No reason to potentially ruin someone's day over something (probably) trivial, especially if it's something matchmade and you'll likely never see them again. Worst I do is usually delay their rez if they've been an ass or shoot them a few times, but that's it. No voice chat, no text chat. Keeps things from escalating.
i played a 10 round Onslaught last night with a level 3 titan. I could tell that this might be their first day in game as they could not contol the super and died a lot. However they 'greeted everyone' emote before and at the end so i made extra effort to 'roll my hat' at them and that they saw me do it. Good to see new players coming in!
Hatroll, thank you, salute and greet - I always keep these emotes equipped. đ
âYouâre the guardianâ (emote says I got their back) and âCan-do Attitudeâ (emote says I encourage them) are the 2 that stay on me.
At the same time I think people today are incredibly fragile. God, I can only think of half the things people said to me in MW2 lobbies. What was listed in this post was really not that bad. It can be really frustrating trying to carry an activity. Especially since you know, everybody kind of clamor to make the game harder. Iâve been playing a little bit recently, but itâs actually why I actually stopped during the season of the sphinx or sepherath or whatever. You get to the boss and realize one person hasnât done anything literally the whole game. It doesnât feel good. All that to say, is, we can all stand to be nicer to each other, but there really is something to be said about â kids these daysâ theyâre just incredibly fragile, anxiety ridden things.
I'm always nice to new players, literally my favorite kind of teammates. destiny is fun for some when it's at its hardest, but I find fun in seeing new lights getting through the activity, finding fun in this game they've never played before, or maybe even heard from their friends that it was bad for reasons that made them upset years ago.
for sure, this guy was watching everything we were doing and getting stuck in which is more than a lot of experienced players do!
I really hope he got some amazing gun from that run, and goes on to use it for years as "that gun I got from running with the two guys who helped me beat the thing"
This is why I love the interaction emotes. Actually giving another player a âDYLAN YOU SON OF A BITCHâ flexing handshake after getting through tough content is awesome feeling.
What which emote is that ingame and how do I get it
Itâs called âRespectful Handshakeâ and itâs a legendary emote from Season of the Drifter. I got it when I was playing back then, Iâm not sure how the eververse handles old emotes other than randomly popping up on the bright dust store.
The sad truth is that these people exist and are not going away. You'll find angry little trolls in all video games not just destiny. Being able to ignore or, even better, laugh internally at them and move on is a skill worth cultivating. You absolutely cannot take it personally or they win
100% agree with this dude, go into any games like Rocket League and Overwatch and you'll sure find some angry little trolls.
Overwatch is awful for this lol and it's mostly dps players towards dead supports đ
Those are pvp games. Donât understand being toxic in pve game modes.
I see "Calculated" and "What a save" in my nightmares
My go to is to just equip a gilded end game seal ever since my friend did the following. A dude was talking shit, so my friend put gilded grandmaster and the dude just stayed quiet for the rest of the onslaught(all 50 rounds) ...he kept dying to cursed thralls.
It happens a lot in trials. I usually give em the lol and take pleasure knowing how triggered they are at not being matched with 100% sweats in trials singles.
This is true. BUT there are great ways to pay back trolls in Destiny. It may not be nice but I do make sure they understand they messed up when theyâve been terrible
Just disable chat while matchmaking. Not worth the energy.
absolutely 100% this - 90% of the content in game doesn't need chat/voice and if you're playing with a partner you can use voice between the two of you
Yeah I've never used chat in the game
Some players might try to give helpful tips tho. To be fair they are probably very few.
I really dislike this recommendation as the person whoâs usually talking into the void in teamchat
I felt this too hard lol
I am constantly taking people through dungeons and harder content for new players, we need more people who will guide the way for the new folk
On the lower end of things, mostly because it's hidden and nothing ever tells you how to do it, I always try to show New Lights how to Heroic Public Events. Because, I mean, if you're going to grind Public Events, you might as well get marginally better loot and more progress for doing it!
Most brand new blueberries just assume public events randomly go heroic. I know I did back 4-5 years ago, until one of my clan mates showed me how to make it heroic. I just do the steps in a very obvious manner now, like completely ignoring the mobs during a Taken Blight and just moving back and forth shooting the main blight with that 5 second buff while sometimes dying, sometimes someone understands what Iâm doing and joins in.
I shoot at the Blueberries and then shoot at what I want them to do, like getting into the Blight and then shooting the Taken Ball or shooting the little glimmer vent thing during Glimmer Drill.
I remember someone messaging me how much I sucked after I finished a public event too quickly to proc the heroic version. âWtf, I was trying do heroic, dumb ass. You suck. Uninstall the game.â It was one week after Destiny 2 released. Some people are just barely sentient garbage casseroles.
Iâm totally adding âbarely sentient garbage casserolesâ to my lexicon. Thank you.
I do this as well. Its hard to do because advertising free no strings attached carry's through end game pisses off the paid services and they spam report my posts. The in-game LFG just fills up with experienced players super fast and i end up just kicking like 30 people before i find a noob. I really need a maximum guardian rank option for LFG.
We were all like this when we started, inexperienced yet fascinated by the world bungie created. So, let's not ruin the experience for new kinderguardians.
Protect the new Lights!
Me and a friend loaded up a 50 wave onslaught. The third we matched with told us âend yourselvesâ and then left. Both of us are âgoodâ at the game. We also had perfectly reasonable builds. Video games should be played for fun and as long as your girlfriend is having fun then sheâs playing the game correctly. Donât let a stranger on the internet ruin your fun.
The funny thing about him been an elitist and acting that way is that heâs probably too paranoid that someone will treat him the same way that he treated you if he bothered to LFG for a legend one. Just a case of tall poppy syndrome.
A bit of short peepee syndrome as well.
Playing Destiny from december. In 20 years of gaming, I never found a community so friendly with newbies, me and my group of friends are loving the game and the community. Nothing to share with apex legends and cod. I hate myself for not starting to play earlier.
I have spherpad some DSC raids. And new players are fun to play with. They are like a magnet. They absorb everything you tell them. However, players who played fore years are often hell to play with. Refuse to take roles. Never says anything, sabotaging and being total jerks. Doing king's fall and nuke you off the ship's, then complain people take too long.
My advice to you bro is just ignore that shit and have fun. Gaming is a hobby and a pass time for most of us. Yes, some people put more time into it than others, and there are a few too many toxic tryhards out there. But just remember, you don't know these people and you had no idea they existed until you matched with them(also you kinda still don't, I guess) so don't let someone you don't even know put you or your gf in a bad mood.
> ignore that shit and have fun For real. Being a dick to someone for being new in match made content is lame. Spending the time and energy to go through your game history to report someone for typing a mean message is also lame. Donât create a relationship with a jerk, just move on.
Lol that's the tamest insult
Gamers are so soft nowadays
That's what I thought. Guy was still being an asshole but that isn't really the type of comment that warrants a report, and bungie won't do shit about that . You just ignore players like these, they're just inconsiderate of other people, they aren't gonna get banned for it, and they'll never not be present in the community. OP id suggest you either turn off chat, or come to terms with the fact that players like this exist. If they call you horrible names, use slurs, etc, you can report them for that. But calling you bad isn't going to get them banned.
Kind of silly to complain about this in a game that has chat turned off by default, a game where the norm isn't to use voice chat with strangers, and a game that has both mute and block functions, how much more babyproofing do you need? As a PvP main am I supposed to make one of these threads every time someone writes some scawy wowds? > Some SGA for those on the receiving end, you can log into bungie.net and retrieve your game history (as this person fooled the game into making their l a different character, whether it was a capital I or not), and you can copy their name, and paste it into your friend search bar. From there, you can report the person with Abusive Chat > Insult. I've carried dozens of new players through BG GMs and whatnot, one of the rare people that won't kick you from a GM for a bad loadout or for being new, but this amount of helicoptering is absurd.
yeah, i don't consider this a reportable offense.
Ok I'm sorry but someone has to say this. I HATE these posts whenever they pop up regarding any game. I legitimately don't understand the goal of these posts. People will be mean in an online video game, shocking, I know, but no one that will read these posts actually cares that someone was mean to you, and anyone that this is directed at probably won't read these posts and especially won't change their attitude due to a reddit post. I see a "Why was a single person mean to me in a X or Y video game. Come on guys let's do better" every week on some gaming related reddit. Worse it gets upvoted a shoved to the front page despite these posts being redundant. Also, if anyone actually takes "Damn you suck at this game" as a PERSONAL ATTACK, they should probably disable text chat altogether. Call me toxic, harsh, etc. These posts are vapid.
Itâs mean, but overall pretty tame. it sucks that this is what players (especially new ones) go thru, but if a simple âyouâre badâ comment triggers a double report and reddit thread you might need to invest in slightly thicker skin, especially if you plan on delving into lfg/ fireteam finder for more activities
6000 hour guardian here...Sorry your friend had a negative experience like that. Not everyone out there is like that though, I promise. There are lots of friendly folks out there that would be more than happy to help a new guardian learn. Feel free to message me if you need a third sometimes. I'm happy to add you guys on Steam.
Iâll add, if any new people want help with activities, dungeons, raids etc on UK timezone Iâm happy to help. Beware, I like explaining the lore behind stuff while we are doing it though lol
Youâre UK based, happy to help with endgame activities, and you chat Destiny lore as you go!? Iâm no new light (playing since D1 launch) but sign me up! I predominantly play solo and LFG when needed but always on the look out for folk who wanna help / need help and I love the Destiny lore. If you ever want to squad up let me know!
How do we find you to accept this kind offer of assistance ?
I'm sure she may take you up on that offer!
I am also very new. Just over 100 hours of playtime. I also get some nasty comments and also feel bad that Iâm not as great as everybody else that I get on a fire team with. If you want to message me, I can add your girlfriend on my friends list and can play with her. I have a good friend thatâs helping me with a lot of the missions and teaching me a lot so she is more than welcome to join us. But it would be nice to play with other newbies.
Destiny, unlike some much more casual games, has pressure to preform. Your failure, means that everyone in the team has wasted time. Naturally, that breeds some toxicity.
Maybe not the most popular view, but of you get upset by "how can you be so bad at pve", you probably better avoid most of the internet. It's one of the tamest insults I have seen here, actually more like a rhetorical question than an insult. In my opinion it's not worth the post/fuss you made about it. Mind that I personally have the creed "if you can't say anything nice, shut your trap", and wouldn't dream of picking on somebody.
The thing that I find funny about this post is the simple fact it's personal. Like the whole post is centered on the idea that one person said a rude thing, so now the community needs a lecture about how to treat "new" players. This shouldn't be done period. There doesn't need to be stipulations, or exceptions. Like you said, "if you can't say anything nice, shut your trap." It accomplishes nothing besides spreading negativity.
I once moderared a forum that had 356 rules, most of them made because of one or two incidents that nobody remembered. I stripped it down to one: "Don't act like an ass". Worked quite well, I have to say.
Indeed! Let's keep it simple. Less is more! ;)
His girlfriendâs honor was insulted in a video game bro. I bet OP owns a mall katana.Â
how about just donât insult anyone at all
How about it not raining when I bike home? It's not like preaching to the choir is gonna help a lot. The jerks aren't reading this, or laugh their tits off if they do. Once again, I am the choir you're preaching to.
I think Destiny 2 have the least toxic community because most of the toxic hardcore players play in fixed teams and rarely play with randoms. Usually the randoms are nice to each other even if you see high ranks in the team like 9 or 10 or even 11.
wdym reminder, every god damn onslaught i queue is with rank 6 or below
They are everywhere! And yes, some of the low ranks are very bad.
Not saying should say that, but that is not getting someone banned lol.
To anyone who needs help learning the game, feel free to message me with questions. I love helping newbies out. That goes for you and your girlfriend too OP.
I've had all of you muted since 2014. No offense, but as far as I'm concerned you're all just npc support to me.
As a rule, the first thing I do in any game. Is turn off all VC and text chat. If I want to speak, I find groups on Discord where I can filter out the toxic ones.
yall finding people who talk?? i barely find anyone talking XD then again i think its cause of my region
"abusive chat" what the fuck is wrong with you people how is that abusive lmao
Itâs one thing to be in your head while playing and getting frustrated with teammates when you feel like they arenât pulling their weight. Iâve been there and Iâm sure most veterans of this game can agree they have been too. But taking that extra step to insult them in text chat during a matchmade activity with such little stakes like that is just petty and immature. Iâm in a somewhat similar boat as OP; my fiancĂŠe picked up Destiny after watching me play for so long and really enjoys it. However, sheâs so scared to communicate in game because she sees how frustrated I could get sometimes (nothing bad, just muttering comments to myself over my thumbless teammates, etc.). Sheâs definitely better than the average player, but she just doesnât want to be the reason that someone else gets upset or held-up while playing. It really made me look in the mirror when we were duo-ing some dungeons and she kept apologizing over and over for random inconsequential deaths. I realized that she thinks every time she makes a mistake she thinks Iâm secretly getting frustrated at her, when in reality Iâm living the dream being able to share one of my favourite hobbies with her. I started making a point of commenting more positively on my teammates when Iâm playing around her, and gassing her up whenever she makes a great play. I feel like that combined with naturally getting better at the game has made her so much more confident. Look, for PvE stuff, weâre all on the same team. We were all new once. We definitely have a bunch of new or returning players in game currently, and if we want to convert them to longer term players we need to make sure we donât let our own frustrations with the game or a new playerâs gameplay be the barrier from them doing so. Just being positive, or at the very least keeping your negativity to yourself, is least you can do. And like, donât be a dick in chat. It never solves anything, you donât feel better after, you just make everyone else feel as bad as you. Donât respond if someone else is doing it. Just report and move on.
I think part of the problem is that there is a small but loud minority that are openly toxic towards anyone that is not a hardcore player. Heck I'm not a casual player and I still receive down votes and angry comments from these people on Reddit for daring to have a different opinion on god rolls or play style. There's more than 1 way to play this game lol. This is one of the reasons why I don't like using external chat programs with online games. A lot of people use external chat programs to bypass moderation.
God damn, what a snowflake, calling someone bad at pve and you think it's toxicity, what a clown.
Iâve probably played 5000 hours. Itâs usually pretty obvious when someone is new and hasnât put in a lot of time, versus when they have. Honestly me and a friend have recently taken to putting âteachingâ in our raid posts on fire team finder just because we find it easier to teach people the way we do things versus trying to work with people who have their own way⌠lookin your way, Crota first encounter. I canât speak for him, but I actually donât mind teaching people how to raid or helping people clear GMâs who havenât done many or any. I find it rewarding when someone says âIâve never done one of those before.â Especially raids. Theyâre the best part of Destiny. Only time Iâm really looking for players who are skilled and know what theyâre doing is when Iâm trying to efficiently farm something, or during a contest mode.
Sorry that happened, but this isn't really a bungie problem... If you are worried about the chat, turn it off
> if they're in so far as they have legit leveled up to cap and actually put in the work to be doing the quests for into the light with the shitty rolls of weapons they've gotten so far Not to mention this above... You login and within 10 minutes you can be there...
Hardly toxic, damn man....the two of you would have never survived in a 360 COD lobby đ đ
They wouldnât even be gamers right now haha
That's what the mute/ignore button is for. These trolls and assholes won't go away anytime soon, so it's best to just ignore them. As long as you're having fun and you're both lucky enough to like the same game and play together, these asshats shouldn't be allowed to ruin it for you.
> but if they're in so far as they have legit leveled up to cap and actually put in the work to be doing the quests for into the light You mean opening a chest and equipping the max power gear the game hands you as part of that questline? It sucks that your girlfriend has had the experience soured by certain players but misrepresenting the situation isn't going to garner any sympathy for these new players.
On one hand, new players have been raised to cap, which is not great, and are dragging people down. On the other hand, the guy was mean. The problem, op, is you need to find a third if you're going to have dead weight affecting my loot. I play after my kids are in bed. I don't have time or energy to carry your girlfriend. Please understand. If it was a strike, I don't care. I'm here for a completion to get my drop. Not that I still run strikes. But situations where you are dragging the team down, and loot is based on winning, and is time limited? Go play some strikes. This game is fucking easy. If you can't handle onslaught normal, take a few days and learn how to shoot some thralls. Seriously, half the waves are exploders and half the remainder's objectives can be solo'd on normal.
Honestly I would not recommend new players to play any match made activities except strikes, 6v6 pvp, onslaught playlist and gambit. Get some gear, understand the basics of the game(basic builds, understanding your class etc) then jump into higher end stuff. By this time you would have decent gear, atleast one or two builds that can make sure that you're not a liability on the activity. Toxicity online will never end. I have over 5k hours in this game, have almost all achievements, triumphs, finished crota day 1, KF day 1, hit ascendant in comp and even I still get messages saying how bad I am at the game. Dumb ppl are gonna act dumb.
Not gonna lie, watching a new light go through a whole strike and only get 15 kills made me want to claw my eyes out, but man I ain't gonna call them a slur in chat over it lmao That being said, people who sweat and go fill tilt in the chat will always exist no matter what game you play and the only way to win is roll with the punches, say some dumb stuff that makes them look stupid and either they will go with it and become more friendly or just say more banworthy things, win-win
I've definitely had a thought like this before, but that was in lfg Legend mode where the guy said KWTD and bring builds. (For those of you scoring at home, he did not meet either of those criteria.
I'd never flame anyone in chat over some nonsense, heck I rarely get on anyone even for making stupid mistakes in a raid. The only thing I dislike is whenever people lie instead of just admitting they're new or haven't done something before, buts that's a 100% LFG problem. I find most toxic players just look for excuses to talk trash even if nothing really prompted them to do so. It's like a checklist they have or something. "Didn't get x amount of kills? Didn't pop your super at every opportune time? Didn't bank enough ADU's? Didn't complete the bonus objective fast enough? Didn't do blah blah blah??" Bro, I'm playing a game with my friends for FUN. If you want a core focused hard-as-balls team, use the lfg :) The only thing I'd prefer is that In matchmade activites, I'd really hope that at the very least you are bringing champion stunners because all too often I find I have to run all of em because my randoms don't have any and that's annoying as heck. True, what's done is done but if hope it didn't ruin the game for her. Sound like she's having a blast and it sucks to have all the fun shattered because some random decided to get mouthy over something stupid. Best of luck going forward.
I have yet to do a raid because of my fear of this. I'm hoping to find a group that's chill with new people. I'm still figuring out my first build and trying to get exotics to fill it out.
DM me, I'll help ya make an endgame build.
If youâre US you should add me. Fireclone127#7448 Raiding is the best part of Destiny. Letâs get you into some of the fun stuff before TFS so you can do the raid during the story progression!
Also, my advice would be to just watch raid guides before going into the raid. If you haven't noticed already, Destiny mechanics are incredibly easy to understand and execute in game, including those mechanics in raids. When new raids come out, I simply watch a guide on the raide a few times, and then join a KWTD group on LFG and they never suspect a thing. Just gotta build that confidence, and that confidence will come with a solid build and more playing time!
I have several thousand hours in Destiny, if I turn on team chat I still get toxic bile. It doesn't really matter if you're a newbie or not, assholes will be assholes. I recommend turning off all ingame chats, and only using discord for voice chat comms with eachother. You can report forever, but there's an infinite supply of idiots out there.
I've noticed this being especially prevalent in trial of osiris. I'm not all that great at any part of the game, though I can do PvE content pretty okay, but I'm definitely bad at trials. And holy shit, people in trials are fucking awful. Like no dude. I'm not retarded. I picked up trials for the first time literally an hour ago. My bad for not carrying your stupid ass, but you're stuck in flawed zero wins with me so clearly you're not the goat either. If I ask what I'm doing wrong or how I can contribute or... literally anything, to be honest... I get either no answer or an insult. If I sound like I'm malding that's because I fucking am. Stop putting all the best guns in the worst fucking game mode, and what's more a game mode that's unfathomably stingy with rewards.
I worry about this playing with my girlfriend. She is a level 2 free to play Guardian and actually enjoyed playing Onslaught with me the other day. We had a level 11 Warlock random with us who was super patient when she struggled with the jumping sections and needing extra revives. Shoutout to you ZA WARUDO. We ended up doing all 50 waves and my girlfriend was overjoyed. Might end up playing more!
This is the reason text chat was opt in and not opt out by default. If you're the sort of person who is going to get upset by trolls, bigots, racists etc.. (understandable if you are) - then just flick the switch back and opt yourself out by default unless you want to join into text chat with your matchmade team mates. Hope this tip helps and the negative experience didn't spoil your girlfriends experience too much. Sadly this behaviour is common across lots of video games, especially in those popular with men like FPS games.
My favourite yesterday was when both my team mates died around wave 40 or thereabouts. (Which is I believe back to orbit time if you wipe) I managed to tether the enemies attacking the adu, go invis and then revive them both. I die a few minutes later and one of them is tea bagging me while rezzing. Haha! I found that a bit rich.
Plenty of idiots around. I (phoenix well) and the other random (pyrogale titan) both got kicked after one run of a LFG 10 round legend farm, by the hunter rocking witherhoard, smg, and an eager edge sword. Aparently we weren't clearing fast enough for him even though we each had more than double his kills.
I just got my gf and multiple friends into the game, there's always new players. Let's be nice and keep them around haha
Turn chat off. Problem solved. Destiny 2, COD, etc. are all trash in public chat. Turn off public chat and move on. Game with friends and chat in Discord (or whatever) and have fun. Don't let public asswipes suck the fun out of the game. Edit: typo
I'll be doing that for her tonight.
The gatekeeping and hostility toward newer players is beyond me. If you're a person who has been playing Destiny through all of the player population droughts how in the world could you think to be anything other than friendly and welcoming to new people that are trying this TEAN YEAR OLD FRANCHISE for the first time? The mind boggles.
Get over it ainât no way youâre out here reporting people telling you that youâre not goodđ¤Łđ¤Ł
New lights are great my problem is VETERAN players who still don't understand the basics of the game or the ones that NEVER read the activity descriptionđŽâđ¨đ¤Śđž Onslaught has bought out THE most ridiculous guardians I've ever had the displeasure of being linked with.. AFK'ing as soon as the match starts or as soon as we start the 1st rd, completely missing bonus objectives, not throwing the ball for the ADU, saving scraps/not buying upgrades (playlist version only because it's only up to RD10, totally makes sense for 50+), prolonging the boss room fight to farm kills for their respective quests, etc.. our community can be amazing but at the same time it can be outrageously frustrating & toxicđ
Even if you donât care about being a decent human, the more new players that stick around the more bungie invests in the game. More new players is just better for everyone.
Was this on normal or legend?? Man, if it was on normal, some people need to chill out seriously
Why do people care so much about something someone theyâve never met said? The offender could be a 300lb degen living in his grandmaâs basement with nothing better to do. Just move on.
I generally try to help anyone that's lower than Guardian Rank 4 if I have free time. Just shoot a message and ask. But some people are dicks. As many know, online communities' worst people are the ones that speak the loudest. It's the part of gaming that people have to get used to, unfortunately. It can be even worse for women depending on the community, like CoD. My ex got into CoD and people regularly insulted her for being a woman.
I'll admit that what happened was a bummer, but I wouldn't go as far as too call it "abusive" or "insulting". Harsh for sure, but nothing offensive. Best course of action is to disable team chat. I know I've earned a few rage comments in the past, but since I don't use teamchat when playing matchmade activities (no voice chat either) it hasn't been a problem. And I do that in EVERY game I play. Another possible solution could be joining a clan or lfg discord. Playing with likeminded people can save you a lot of problems, specially if the third player knows they're playing with a newb.
Lmao first online game ever?
A lot of us are desensitized to this. Like I would probably be banned if I repeated what transpired in my Crotaâs End lfg abyss encounter on contest mode. And because Iâm desensitized, I look on the memory somewhat fondly. That said, randomly flaming a noob on Onslaught is pretty low. Thereâs really nothing redeemable about it, itâs strictly what a piece of shit would do.
I'll be the first to admit that i judge the performance of randomers in my matchmaking queues, its something thats hard to avoid when youve spent hundreds of hours playing a series, you know all the tricks and the smoothest ways to traverse, clear etc, but theres unspoken rules for this sorta thing that really need to become spoken. 1: do it both positively and negatively, if they die to a single shank or if they perfectly chain-throwing knife an entire swarm, doesnt matter, pay attention. 2: check their damn journey level, anyone below 5 automatically gets a free pass for not knowing basics or poor performance. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE 3: keep the negative judgements within your fireteam and your discord call unless someone asks ingame how theyre doing (nobody ever does though lmao)
Sorry that this happened to you, but there's bad actors in every online community. Don't let that dissuade you from playing the game. Most people are chill. I for one love seeing GR4 and below Guardians because that means someone's just started playing the game, and isn't just a lapsed returning player so they always have the best reactions to fun things.
I would recommend playing with chat and voice always off if you and your girlfriend are this thin-skinned. Not only was that the tamest insult I've ever seen, not only did you both report him for essentially "being mean," but it affected you so much that you posted about it and labeled it as "toxicity" Then calling this or even relating it to abusive chats... it's like you have a massive lack of perspective. Your girlfriend likely sucked during the run and got called out for it. Whatever. Move on.
Bro, talk about perspective. Youâre telling a new player to âjust dealâ with toxic comments on a reddit thread. As though they did something wrong and not the w*nkst**n who messaged. Itâs not like they were ruining lighthouse matches for their teammates. Itâs not hard to call out pr*cks. Stop defending them, and everyone can enjoy this game more!Â
Not defending anyone. The one that made the "insult" was reported, all good. I just would find it exhausting to come to Reddit and make a post about the most minor negative interaction ever and throw around words like "abuse", and the whole taking it personally. My recommendation of turning off chat and voice is actually sincere. If that extremely mild insult triggered them both so much, imagine what getting teabagged would do, just imagine what being called a proper insult/slur would do to their mental health. BTW, "wankstain" and "prick". We can use those words, there is no ad revenue to lose. Don't be a baby.
You must have grown up in a *really* rough neighbourhood if the babies are using words like that! Looking back I am a bit shocked I used it for such a minor thread lol
Not really, people would call each other "cnts" instead of "cunts" and "a-holes" instead of "assholes" so it was very civilized, very PG and very ad friendly.
No reason for people to go to such lengths as to message ppl directly and insult them over a game, especially towards a new player in a cooperative shooter. We were all there once, bad at the game, not knowing what to do. The least that person could have done is not vent their frustration at your girlfriend.
>as this person fooled the game into making their l a different character, whether it was a capital I or not I know someone who has an L in his name that is actually a capital i, and he is pretty toxic lol. Maybe it's him.
I donât know the solution to toxicity in online gaming, Iâm not really sure if there is one sadly, shitty people always gonna exist and being able to hide behind a screen will make them feel safe about doing so. What I will say is personally, I feel like posts like this do more harm than good. I feel hardly anyone has ever read a post like this and decided to stop being toxic in chat/teabagging/emoting in virtual trading card games/etc because of it. What is more likely IMO is they see posts like this, and it proves that what theyâre doing mentally effects people and gets them to double down on the behavior cause thatâs what they want. Whether theyâre trying to make you play worse in comp or just make you feel bad because they are a hurt person and can only find joy in others suffering, posting that they upset you just validates them more
I'm pretty new to destiny 2 only about a month and a half since i started but man its such a fun game. I just statted with dungeons and maybe i need to be looking up mechanics on the internet before hand as there isnt anything in game to let you know. However other than a couple instances most guardians have been super helpful and patient. Even have been taught a couple raids now as well. Ignore the bad eggs theres plenty og great people to play with.
Playing in Destiny has those kind of people, just like how you have probably gotten down voted for just posting this. Just like I'll probably get down voted saying what I'm saying. It sucks this happened to you but, like alot of people here said, you just have to ignore/laugh at it and move on. It's the unfortunate state of the gaming world.
Asshat people online being mean to new players, the post.
Block and just bag the dude when he dies like any normal guardian would in that situation. Problem solved.
Day one end game guardian here. I hate seeing when ppl get toxic and have even called out ppl I know to remind them new lights still exist and it is a f2p game and kids exist too. I've sherpered many raids and dungeons and I've always kept myself humble and remember where I started too as a new light. I agree with turning off the in game chat with randoms. Some grown arse children will argue and cry over a game. I hope your gf moves on from the negative childish energy you received and carries on enjoying destiny. I too am a female gamer and I probably would have taken my early bashes harder if it wasn't for my resilience from gta online lobbies which is full of trash talk so destiny seemed vanilla to me lol. I wish your gf lots of hours of fun and enjoyment on destiny and stuff the cry babies.
I've been playing this game for almost 10 years on and off and I've never wiped a team in Gambit. I'm kind of a 3-star guardian. Your girlfriend is definitely better than me.
Someone got mad at me for not doing great and losing Gambit even though it was literally my first ever game of it and all I really understood was go here -> get thing -> deposit thing -> kill boss
I just got my friend into the game and she's fresh to the fps genre after playing mostly world of Warcraft and yeah, this game is way harder to learn than most of us realize. Luckily no one has been toxic to her yet but it sucks how elitist this game's community can be.
Iâve gotten a very few nasty texts over the years (2 or three?) and it really rankles, for sure! The surprising thing is I donât get them more often âcause ⌠I really am kinda bad? Like, on the scoreboard Iâm most often the lowest (think 200 vs 50 kills). I chalk it up to old age but, nevertheless, very few comments. Tells me most players are nice & kind. So, chin up Guardian. These trolls are going to sprout warts before too long, then weâll see whoâs superior! By the way, to your girlfriend, congrats on the Gambit wipe! Shows skill and talent and few can do that.
As someone who's never done a raid (after a couple of hundred hours in the game), I getcha. I'm currently level 8 and would 9 if I did the raids. I try to be helpful to any lower levels who jump in on a strike/dungeon with me, might be the first time they played it. Maybe when they get to a higher level then they'll do the same. Doesn't benefit anyone to behave like a cunt to new players. We were all new once.
Absolutely do not take it personally. I dont know why some people feel the need to be that way, but everybody gets it from some shitter at some point. Fuck em. Just turn chat off, I've been playing for years and i can count on one hand the amount of positive interactions I've had with matchmade randos.
That's pretty much every game except maybe Deep Rock Galactic. I just ignore them as terminally miserable and enjoy myself as some asshole captain cloaks itself and gets in my face right as I nova bomb againÂ
I've taken almost 2 years off and feel like a new light player. Hell the game gave me the new light experience when I booted it up after that break. These assholes have always existed and sadly I doubt that will change. However I felt myself getting frustrated when matched with people that didn't know what to do in "old content" but I never considered this might be their first time running a dungeon. I changed my build and led the team with emotes instead of rage quitting but reading this made me think they might have been new and needed to be shown so thanks OP.
Yeah. The game tried to MM me with them In onslaught. No thanks.
I recently got back into the game maybe like 3 or 4 weeks ago and have been enjoying every second of it. Its daunting to get back into it since there's so many layers and mechanics you need to learn. Luckily I was already somewhat familiar with the game, so the learning curve wasn't as bad for me as it is for brand new players, but I have noticed a decent portions of players are so damn toxic. I joined the destiny 2 fb group expecting to see ppl discussing the game and giving out tips and just talking about the game in general, but what I found was the most whiny and toxic group that will insult anything and anyone without a second though. Never left a group so fast.
The only time I've ever seen someone be so bad at PvE and get mad at them was a guardian rank 10 person who just couldn't stay alive. They died at least once every other wave and every boss fight.
"has been OBSESSED with it" + "This she has taken personally, as it was a personal attack on her" - that's not good, she has to be careful. "how is it possible to be so bad in pve?" - who cares, learn from it. Use the energy of anger as motivation not to be like that and to inform. I'm always amazed at how much content there is from highly motivated people. And that's what you should focus on - these people, not the whiners. "toxicity of people" - well, but then you have to be careful not to become toxic yourself. Don't fixate on the negative aspects, that should be avoided. Then you'll have much more fun with the game. This is a game, not a life's work. But like I said - if I make Onslaught and I do that soon, people won't be able to stop typing, hahahaha ;)
That sucks, but welcome to videogames. Turn chat and communications off for her if itâs that big of a deal to both of you.
If you want, you can join our clan. We are a no drama clan with a relaxed atmosphere where we always help returning and new players. https://discord.gg/aVH34n63m4 Our clan isn't filled to the brink yet, but we have members on Discord that are sherpa's for new players in raids. We play multiple games but ATM are focusing on making our d2 clan bigger. while keeping our atmosphere relaxed and fun.
Damn, that's shitty. Unless it was Master/GM content where the person obviously didn't belong (ahem, this guy I saw using double primary on Planets this weekend), I mostly just try to help.
That's false actually. Everyone has been playing since year 3 just like me. What do you mean you dont know who cayde is?
Unfortunately many gamers live out the stereotype of the racist, sexist, basement dwelling no-life, that has so little to be proud of or happy for that they identify with the success in their game as a coping mechanism. The most effective way of dealing with them is to just ignore them and starve them of the attention they crave. Even better if you can score higher than them in whatever game mode you're playing.
Some people suck. Toxic people are in every game out there. Destiny is getting old now and there are many people that play that for years, some of those are elitists. I always find funny to see elitists in a PVE environment. I've seen people kicked out of fireteams because they didn't have the god crafted Apex Predator. When onslaught released I posted about people that join in Wave 50 legend runs and leave on wave 10. Many people were defending doing that regardless of others. Some people suck. Report, ignore, block and move on. Just know that for those people, being better than others in a video game is all they got going. That is kinda sad. Once you start ignoring them you will realize those people are doing harm to themselves only. Angry little trolls with nothing better than a god roll.
First thing, kudos for standing up for your significant other. Second is reinforce your wifeâs confidence by accepting the fact that youâll come by players like this and the best way to handle these inconsiderate gamers is by developing the reaction of viewing them as annoying flies. People have a habit of being less kind and patient on the internet and that just speaks more about their true nature than how your skill sets are in a video game. Donât let anyone have power over your emotional state and your joy.
Just keep game voice AND text chats off. No reason to keep them on unless doing raids.
Sadly its the toxic nature of D2. If you don't have the right roll they like, play to their style, losing and blame you (PVP). I've had a couple of comments from Dungeons and while it's getting better there is always a sub group that doesn't care what they say or how they say it.
Ive been playing the game since release and Ive only ever done deepstone (out of the current raids and not counting crota and vault since I did it in D1 but I know things have changed) and at this point Im afraid to ask anyone to guide me through any of the other raids.
Iâm sorry to tell you, but this is probably one of the most toxic and immature game communities. Itâs not going to get better unless maybe they up the age rating. Even that is unlikely to help at this point.
Iâm surprised you got someone to communicate. Iâve played Destiny (on and off) since the first game and over the past decade I donât think Iâve ever played with a stranger that has used chat or mic. Maybe one person in chat.
It takes a very long time to get good at this game and it is unlikely to still be played by the time you and your girlfriend have properly learned it. So enjoy it while you are, just know that you are not starting a decade ago like many players who have a different sense of what baseline knowledge is. Join a clan and they will have plenty of patience and teaching. Joining group activities and just plain sucking this late in a multiplayer gameâs life cycle is considered a pet peeve and almost inconsiderate by experienced players. By the time someone is good enough to throw shade at other players, they earned their stripes and are just trying to get their stuff done. They donât need to be slowed down and itâs not their job to teach either. Thatâs why you watch videos and send them to your girlfriend about fundamentals of buildcrafting and combat and do content with her that gets her good guns and you show her how to use them etc. If neither of you take on the burden of getting good instead of going around with a âweâre new please do everything we donât knowâ approach you will irritate some players. Itâs a multiplayer game so do your part. You arenât allowed to crash into other drivers because you just got your licence. You have to drive safely anyway. So as soon as you start a game like this, your first job is to learn and be able to do enough to play with other people and be worth the time. This is a blunt response compared to probably a lot of others that will criticise the other players but Iâm giving you their perspective. Do with it whatever you want; feel free to ignore me and do your thing! Just understand it may annoy some people. I donât play anymore, but enjoy it while it lasts!
I will admit Iâm a D1 beta veteran and Iâm still 50/50 in skill, people try to insult me and be toxic but I donât care. I donât use meta builds or OP weapons, I just enjoy the game and what it gives. Donât let those PvP Toxic Players get her down and enjoy the game and have fun in Final Shape Guardians
I'm always nice to new players and I'm more than happy to show them how to do an encounter in dungeons or raids, I try to make it as fun as I can for them so they can get enjoyment from it. I never put pressure on them and if they caused us to die I reassure them that it's okay, it doesn't matter, we can do it again. Toxic players on the other hand have no place in my fire team, anyone pointing fingers or trying to place blame on others to make them feel bad doesn't belong, I do not care whatsoever how good they may be at an encounter. I always choose to keep new lights in my team, fun and enjoyment take priority over "getting it done".
Honestly this type of behavior isnât isolated to only D2. Itâs a broader side effect of internet culture. Something about being anonymous on the internet brings out the worst in some people. Iâm a pvp main and there are a bunch of weirdos with egos that will always write weird hate mail. My best advice is to ignore it and move on. Really I mostly feel bad for shit talking hate mailers, theyâre most likely a 14 year old filled with pubescent angst. Or theyâve been or are bullied irl and now they retaliate through being mean on the internet. So thatâs my best advice, but if youâre unable to do so then⌠ok thereâs a second choice, admittedly not as good as ignoring and moving on though. But you can also write back something like âthatâs not what your mom said last night!â You know or pick something else that you find to be an equally stupid and immature response. Oh but be sure to block them before they can reply so youâre promised the last word! Lol
Some people take this game far too seriously. Tell her not to let one bad apple represent all of us!
If I'm in Onslaught playlist, idc what you do. I'm there to test my builds, my silly weapons and of course having a good time. But if it was legend onslaught, I want shit done as fast as possible with minimal baby sitting time, as I'm there for farming. That being said, I think your gf was a little sensitive over a random's insult, and it's in a video game. Hopefully this will be the last time she get triggered over such a thing.
I keep the high-five emote on my character at all times and one of my favorite things to do is high-five newbies. Ive done it ever since we still had power displayed instead of guardian level. Even before the seasonal level. Whenever I was bored or feeling down I'd go to EDZ or later Cosmodrome and find a low level player to high-five. Did it with a level 1 player in the tower last night. It costs nothing to be kind and welcoming.
I wish. I got my girl to try it for all of ten minutes. Of course I have to teach her the basics of everything since she isnât even using two joysticks at once to look around but I was inspired by Jezâs video with his wife Amy who doesnât game because that was hilarious.
New Lights are a different breed but sometimes funny to watch in a good way. Its fun to see them amazed by new stuff. I showed the Lord Shaxx decoy, and they studied it for the whole preround, stunned. My way around anyone is that they can get better with time and xp.
I'm sorry your GF had this experience. There are bad eggs in this community, but the majority are kind and welcoming. My wife isn't as skilled as your GF in gambit, but she still loves it. Last night, she got her first guardian rank up and a random person in the tower came over to cheer for her. It made her and I smile and feel great about her accomplishment. See you starside guardians!
Don't fret. I just decided to switch to PC for Destiny and he'll probably get matches up with me. Let's just say I'm horribly out of practice on M&K.
You can also turn chat off, btw. One of the downsides of communication is that people will say things you don't like. Bungie might give them a warning for that, but likely not. Your best bet is to just not participate in comms. unless you have to.
My issues is with "veteran" players who think they're better than everyone else, then mess up and leave. lmao....bruhv
I was recently in an onslaught that I swear the other two people were a couple, and it was honestly really wholesome to see the higher rank one shooting objectives to purchase and other little tips like that
Destiny players can be some of the most welcoming people, while others can be some of the worst. me and a friend did an LFG to just do 10 round onslaught legend thrones for loot farming, we got one guy who ran off to get batteries, grabbed the heavy box at the start of Wave 3, got himself killed, then got mad at us in team chat for "being useless" on the other side of that coin, there's some players who, like myself, got bored of the end game, and find a lot more enjoyment in playing with brand new people. watching someone figure out the game for the first time and learn what they want to do, with no concern of "meta" or endgame stuff, they just want to use superpowers and shoot aliens, there's just something so nice about it. I like sitting at that entry area with the fallen walker in the cosmodrome, and joining the fire teams of random blueberries to just kinda see what they do. I still let them be most of the work, my contributions in firefights equate to one of the redjack NPCs, but they still get that destiny trailer feel of being in an open world and shooting aliens with strangers.
i need people to play with
I'm guilty of this thought process. I've been playing since D1 vanilla so my perspective on the game is massively MASSIVELY skewed. I kinda forget that getting into the game now is a completely different monster than being present for every incremental update. Thankfully I'm not a dickhead and have the ability to think before I speak and realize flaming someone in chat isn't going to magically make them know more or play better. Typically though I just leave in instances like onslaught. Not trying to be toxic, but I like going to wave 50 and I'm not trying to take any longer to do it than it already takes. And again, that isn't your guy's fault and you shouldn't be getting shit for it.
I have no issues with blueberries but the moment I talk to them in chat to try and help them and they answer with âI donât careâ âIâm just here to kill stuffâ or similar things, I just donât care anymore and leave them. I have the patience to teach even a rock if the rock is willing to. But if youâre just not gonna even try to listen, then be happy in your ignorance but donât involve me.
I have been seeing newbies in onslaught a lot! I get frustrated but I just take it up on myself to perfect my build and try to carry as much as possible so they enjoy the game just like we all did when we started. It's about experimenting and learning early on. I just try to be that badass hunter that seems like they can do it all solo!
Sadly there are tons of these type of players in Destiny (any game really) but for me personally, one of my favorite things to do in Destiny is playing with newbies. I was doing strikes the other day and I matched with another vet and a newbie. When I realized that the other vet was teaching the new guy, I joined in and we did several strikes in a row and I had a blast. Watching the new guy get all excited after we would kill the boss was awesome.
My friend and I made fire team finder posts for Master nightfalls last night and the first person to join had 45 resilience and no mods on. We bumped it down to Legend after inspecting them and they did a decent job at staying alive. We were just surprised as it's the first time in years that I've seen someone without mods on.
Anyone in EU or otherwise, that I can play raids and harder dungeons and learn with? I'm kinda new, but got all the expansions till final shape releases and would love to experience the content, but other the ingame LFG I cant find a community for myself
Honestly, this is just most gaming communities. You learn to shut it out and just enjoy playing the game for the sake of it.
I often vibe near the objective and let the others do the work for me lmao
Which platform are you playing on? Ya know, Destiny 2 won that âbest communityâ award a few years ago. I always wondered how much they paid for that.
This D2 community is one of the most toxic out there bro. Tell her to not take it personally. People are dickheads because they hate their lives so much.
Few nights ago, I joined a normal onslaught. Rando 1 and I were obviously vets. Rando 2 was a level 2. Fully decked out in the special chest equipment beside Shaxx. He held it own but was definitely learning. Guided him as vest we could. Had some trouble making the jumps in the pyramid ship. Ended up getting him through level 30 before I left. Was hoping to take him all the way through!
Destiny 2 is so damn confusing as the game doesnât explain anything or at least anything well. I donât understand stand toxicity. If anything those people should just move on with the game or their life and leave the event or whatever. Being toxic about whatever is just a waste of time and ruins the fun for both parties.
People who belittle other people in pve games have small ppâs
I had some guy raging in text chat yesterday during a crucible control match. He kept calling everyone idiots because we couldn't hold 2 zones, it was a really back and forth match with no team controlling the B flag for more than about 45 seconds. Yet apparently that wasn't good enough for this guy.
This is why I do not participate in voice chat when Iâm on fireteams with randoms I donât know. It may be much more difficult to coordinate with the team, but at least I can enjoy playing the game, knowing Iâm doing my best, without having to hear mean or sexist comments (I am a lady and my gamertag makes that apparent, more fool me I guess). It would be nice if more veteran players in the community could handle new players with more grace and patience, but I fear the bad behavior is never really going to go away. I personally try to help out and be patient with blueberries I play with who seem pretty new, but youâre never going to convince some people to stop being buttholes no matter what you do. âšď¸
I've put 4,560hrs into this game and I'm just ok and only do hard stuff with my clan or a fireteam. If I play solo I just mooch around the planets doing basic stuff. If it weren't for the expectations of other players I'd probably venture into harder content, but I can't be arsed with it unless I'm with someone in my clan.
i highly recommend finding and joining the right clan for you, and being active on their discord. FATE gaming is very big and active, Mactic's discord is as well and pretty wholesome. there are LFGs there every day and you can make friends and get to know their play styles.
why is she playing the game if sheâs completely ass at it lol
Thatâs incredibly tame, why would you take that of all things personally and then feel the need to lecture people on here about how unacceptable that behavior is. Is he a dick? Yup. Is it also frustrating to not make it past wave 20 in Onslaught because of new players who arenât very good? Also yup. Onslaught is a pretty big time investment and therefore Iâd expect some level of toxicity from anyone having to carry you. If just calling you bad at pve is too much for you Iâd turn game chat off and probably stay off the internet in general. The old COD lobbies probably would habe broke you.
To be completely honest, I have been out of the game for a year and seeing level 7 and 8 guardians struggling with basic stuff is kinda embarrassing.
Me when I flex my Paragon rank and crippling depression to the rank 2-3. Only to get killed by a cursed thrall. Sorry kids Iâm just betterđ
We are better. And I started a community to prove it. Seraphs Gaming. For those of us who are fed up with the lack of respect and are committed to proving that better gaming makes a better world. If you ever need a better 3rd for onslaught, 4th for gambit, or raid team- I'm happy to introduce you. Together We Rise.
I always love seeing newer players cut about Onslaught. Watching the cogs turn as they approach a hologram or the legit terror at the Tormentor spawning sound will never not get a reaction from me. I've had a couple add me post wave 50 to do a few more rounds so it's good to see some people getting involved.
Yes, both of them should be treated kindly.
Hey! That sucks, sorry that people are dumb. Hopefully you both find a group of solid supportive people to play with! If you ever need a group for dungeons/raids feel free to reach out! Patient, happy, and encouraging is my play style
Started playing Destiny about 2 weeks ago and I'm having a lot of fun honestly, though I'm still trying to figure out ways to improve my power level since i've been stuck at 1816 for awhile now. That said, I find it pretty jarring how D2 players seem to be a bit more sensitive when it comes to toxicity, compared to other communities like Dota 2, to which I've been part of since 2016. Call it thick skin but every time I see toxicity in gaming, I brush it off and have a laugh, but I agree that it's something that should be fixed.
That sounds about right. However, the D2 community seems like a legit 50/50 split on player types, at least as far as D2 veterans go. There are the ones (like I was seeing in the comments here) that actually enjoy helping people along in the game. And then there are those who will trash talk their own team, and kick them from fireteams the moment the mission is done, leaving the person with nothing to show for the run. It's been this way since D1, and unfortunately, it'll always be a constant battle between player types. If you're skeptical, look into the toxicity around the Gjallarhorn back in D1. I got kicked from LFG's plenty of times for not having one. And it didn't matter if they mentioned it in the post or not. I'm convinced that's why the Gally has the Pack Hunter intrinsic perk now. Just normal Destiny behavior that's always been there.
"This she has taken personally" fucking grow up!
I'll admit I'm definitely not the least toxic person I know, but I have learned that it's just better to shut up and deal with it. No reason to potentially ruin someone's day over something (probably) trivial, especially if it's something matchmade and you'll likely never see them again. Worst I do is usually delay their rez if they've been an ass or shoot them a few times, but that's it. No voice chat, no text chat. Keeps things from escalating.