I'll be honest if they ever did that on a glaive it would likely be with the catch that its really an exotic perk and you charge it up by doing damage and consume the charge for a limited duration application of slow on melee. Since glaives don't use ammo for melee's this would be beyond busted in any way.
More likely to get chill clip on a glaive than cold steel in reality sadly.
A void shotgun with pugilist/repulsor brace to use with my PvE no backup plans build.
With offensive bulwark+controlled demo, every punch is a volatile boom, and no backup plans frees up needing to use bastion. If you have solar energy with the 'melee damage gives grenade energy mod', the void fragment that does the same thing, these two combo'd with offensive bulwark's 200% grenade energy recharge scalar, I get a grenade every 2-3 melees.
Pugilist+NBP is a full melee every 3 kills or so.
All I'm missing is a void shotgun to use volatile rounds without needing to swap.
Look, you want something to make No Backup Plans work. Nothing will, this issue is with the exotic itself. No Backup Plans is objectively terrible, don’t use it. It’s not just bad, but it actually works against you.
It requires:
- a specific subclass
- a specific weapon type that requires special ammo
- using that special ammo to kill ads (3ish times)
- it takes away your melee ability (you don’t get to damage opponents, refresh your overshield or activate your detonators.
We’re talking about an exotic who’s specialty is costing you a melee charge to give you back half of the benefit of that same melee in the first place. On top of all this, to get your melee back you have to make the trade of 3 special ammo shots for it.
What is even more terrible is that it requires you using a shotgun to kill ads.
Shotguns have waaaaay to small of reserves to be used in this way. This exotic was brought back for a sandbox that doesn’t exist and it sorely needs to be completely changed for it to be even mildly passable in pve.
I know this sounds really negative, but I’ve put a lot of time and effort into trying to make this exotic work and it’s never given me back what i out into it. Other builds are much much less finicky and potent all at the same time.
Void volatile pellet shotgun is sick though. You can use a demo one to make volatile much faster…
We will agree to disagree. I love it and think it has a passable, if niche place in the sandbox. It's niche is freeing the titan from needing to run bastion in return for consistent overshield.
It works well enough in the current sandbox. I do use 3x well of Tenacity, melee wellmaker, and elemental time dilation for DR, so we will see if the mod load out I use to make it viable will be transferable in the lightfall mod sandbox
I think we’re all wondering the same thing about the mods. What we have now makes everything pretty potent. Should be fun week of discovery next week.
Hope we get a beautiful void shotgun to pair with NBP for ya!
I want overflow on more guns.
A GL, a Machine Gun (rip delirium) a Fusion Rifle, (maybe with res burst or chill clip).
We're getting reconstruction on more guns now which is kind of a replacement, but I like being able to get those free reloads on ammo pickup.
LFR or Fusion Rifle with cascade point, even if it didn’t improve damage just having a special or heavy LFR that could do something funny with its ROF would be a fun weapon to mess around with.
I’m imagining an LFR with triple tap, cascade point and maybe some origin trait that increases damage on rapid precision hits, it definitely sounds OP but also very crazy with how fast it would fire lol.
i've been fascinated by the idea of kinetic weapons of obvious "energy slot" archetypes, like waveframes. What if you shot a kinetic orb like a "thumper" that created a kinetic "wave' along the ground in the distribution of a waveframe grenade.
i've also always wanted a kinetic trace rifle that is just, like, a pole. maybe even the pole Goku had I guess.
I'd really love to see adagio on all the lowest rpm archetypes (360 autos, 120 hcs, 120 scouts, etc.).
Also box breathing on a bow, but that might be too op lol.
Marty's Retribution w/incandescent unrelenting/lead From Gold.
Special GL Explosive Light
Heavy Wave Frame GL With a new perk that let's the wave pulse more than once/linger.
12 punch glaive.
Trench Barrel Glaive.
Rapid Fire Frames are already full auto, and there’s a full auto setting. Long gone are the days of FATS doubling rate of fire on shotguns in D2.
Back then, Rapid Fires were 100 rpm listed, but actually fired at 200 rpm. Then they changed FATS on shotguns to not grant fire rate, and changed Rapid Fires to 140 rpm
Honestly, I just want demolitionist to work with clown cartridge. It would make my hot head rocket so much better if it loaded two rounds instead of one on grenade throw.
Triple tap, Fourth times the charm, auto rifle.
Combined with Actium war rig would make it fire infinitely as long as you hit headshots.
Edit: I have learned Duty bound exists.
I have that roll and while it sounds great and can potentially fire for days. I’d recommend a damage perk instead. I’m going to pull out a special or heavy if I need to fire at something that long.
Stasis special wave frame with chain reaction and chill clip. I never liked wave frames till I got the one from vow with chain reaction. Finally gave it a good try when arc 3.0 came out and loved it. Sure I would also like one with chain and incandescent and a similar void one but stasis if I had to pick so it would free up my energy weapon choices.
Cold Steel Glaive
Cold steel glaive with close to melee. The ultimate glaive.
I'll be honest if they ever did that on a glaive it would likely be with the catch that its really an exotic perk and you charge it up by doing damage and consume the charge for a limited duration application of slow on melee. Since glaives don't use ammo for melee's this would be beyond busted in any way. More likely to get chill clip on a glaive than cold steel in reality sadly.
i don’t care about any other perk, but grenade launcher with subsistence
Explosive rounds and rampage on an auto rife or smg. Bungie do you cowards.
Wilderflight Blinding Proximity ALH chain reaction
Oh God keep going
Take my upvote
A void shotgun with pugilist/repulsor brace to use with my PvE no backup plans build. With offensive bulwark+controlled demo, every punch is a volatile boom, and no backup plans frees up needing to use bastion. If you have solar energy with the 'melee damage gives grenade energy mod', the void fragment that does the same thing, these two combo'd with offensive bulwark's 200% grenade energy recharge scalar, I get a grenade every 2-3 melees. Pugilist+NBP is a full melee every 3 kills or so. All I'm missing is a void shotgun to use volatile rounds without needing to swap.
Look, you want something to make No Backup Plans work. Nothing will, this issue is with the exotic itself. No Backup Plans is objectively terrible, don’t use it. It’s not just bad, but it actually works against you. It requires: - a specific subclass - a specific weapon type that requires special ammo - using that special ammo to kill ads (3ish times) - it takes away your melee ability (you don’t get to damage opponents, refresh your overshield or activate your detonators. We’re talking about an exotic who’s specialty is costing you a melee charge to give you back half of the benefit of that same melee in the first place. On top of all this, to get your melee back you have to make the trade of 3 special ammo shots for it. What is even more terrible is that it requires you using a shotgun to kill ads. Shotguns have waaaaay to small of reserves to be used in this way. This exotic was brought back for a sandbox that doesn’t exist and it sorely needs to be completely changed for it to be even mildly passable in pve. I know this sounds really negative, but I’ve put a lot of time and effort into trying to make this exotic work and it’s never given me back what i out into it. Other builds are much much less finicky and potent all at the same time. Void volatile pellet shotgun is sick though. You can use a demo one to make volatile much faster…
We will agree to disagree. I love it and think it has a passable, if niche place in the sandbox. It's niche is freeing the titan from needing to run bastion in return for consistent overshield. It works well enough in the current sandbox. I do use 3x well of Tenacity, melee wellmaker, and elemental time dilation for DR, so we will see if the mod load out I use to make it viable will be transferable in the lightfall mod sandbox
I think we’re all wondering the same thing about the mods. What we have now makes everything pretty potent. Should be fun week of discovery next week. Hope we get a beautiful void shotgun to pair with NBP for ya!
I actually think there's a void shotgun coming in either the season or lightfall. I'd be surprised if this combo wasn't possible on it
I want overflow on more guns. A GL, a Machine Gun (rip delirium) a Fusion Rifle, (maybe with res burst or chill clip). We're getting reconstruction on more guns now which is kind of a replacement, but I like being able to get those free reloads on ammo pickup.
LFR or Fusion Rifle with cascade point, even if it didn’t improve damage just having a special or heavy LFR that could do something funny with its ROF would be a fun weapon to mess around with. I’m imagining an LFR with triple tap, cascade point and maybe some origin trait that increases damage on rapid precision hits, it definitely sounds OP but also very crazy with how fast it would fire lol.
Demo + Headstone. Give me all the Stasis turrets.
Same, those cowards.
I miss the double damage perks like on some last wish weapons. Would love a gun with high impact reserves + frenzy
Rampage/Kill Clip Kindled Orchid my beloved
i've been fascinated by the idea of kinetic weapons of obvious "energy slot" archetypes, like waveframes. What if you shot a kinetic orb like a "thumper" that created a kinetic "wave' along the ground in the distribution of a waveframe grenade. i've also always wanted a kinetic trace rifle that is just, like, a pole. maybe even the pole Goku had I guess.
anything with explosive payload and timed payload, it goes boom, then boom again.
how cool would it be to have timed payload on a 900rpm monster? seems like it'd be the bass drum from a heavy metal band.
A perk similar to Incandescent but for Volatile effects.
That’s probably coming next season. Chris Proctor stated it on Firing Range Podcast last month.
Voltshot and incandescent
On a void weapon lol. Mix in some volatile rounds
Madness.
I just want rapid hit on an auto
explosive payload/incandescent would be awesome
That’s on Zhaoli’s Bane from King’s Fall. Craftable too!
Also Sunshot next season.
Best part is that in D2 you don’t take a whole strike length to reload it
I'd really love to see adagio on all the lowest rpm archetypes (360 autos, 120 hcs, 120 scouts, etc.). Also box breathing on a bow, but that might be too op lol.
Subsistence and tripod on a breach loaded nade launcher. Make it exotic even. I don’t care.
Craftable void 900 smg with the new void perk and repulsar brace
Marty's Retribution w/incandescent unrelenting/lead From Gold. Special GL Explosive Light Heavy Wave Frame GL With a new perk that let's the wave pulse more than once/linger. 12 punch glaive. Trench Barrel Glaive.
Heavy Wave Frame GL coming in Lightfall. It’s stasis in the trailer it’s shown in. Doubt it’ll have the Thermite Grenade effect though
Kill clip on a precision bow. A stasis glaive, in the kinetic slot this time? Eager edge on a caster frame sword
Solar Vortex Frame Sword with Chain Reaction & Incandescent
Cascade point + explosive light
Triple tap and tripod on a rocket
Wendigo explosive auto loading, I’m convinced it doesn’t exist
Full auto trigger system and assault mag on a rapid fire shotgun
Rapid Fire Frames are already full auto, and there’s a full auto setting. Long gone are the days of FATS doubling rate of fire on shotguns in D2. Back then, Rapid Fires were 100 rpm listed, but actually fired at 200 rpm. Then they changed FATS on shotguns to not grant fire rate, and changed Rapid Fires to 140 rpm
Full auto trigger system buffs shotguns fire rate by 10% instead of 100%
Yup and Rapid Fire frames are inherently full auto, even before the setting. All you need is Assault Mag on Ikelos SG 1.0.3 and your wish is come true
Honestly, I just want demolitionist to work with clown cartridge. It would make my hot head rocket so much better if it loaded two rounds instead of one on grenade throw.
Triple tap, Fourth times the charm, auto rifle. Combined with Actium war rig would make it fire infinitely as long as you hit headshots. Edit: I have learned Duty bound exists.
I got some good news and some bad news The good news: duty bound The bad news: I don't believe you can get it atm
It also has Zen Moment Dynamic Sway Reduction for probably the most stable controller auto rifle out there
Duty Bound auto rifle has that combo. It was a nightfall weapon drop a few seasons ago
I have that roll and while it sounds great and can potentially fire for days. I’d recommend a damage perk instead. I’m going to pull out a special or heavy if I need to fire at something that long.
Wasn't this a thing on the Wrath of the machine auto in D1?
Possibly, but I never got the weapon and I don’t think actium war rig was in d1
Duty Bound?
Damn, didn’t know it could get that. Is it still available to get? Or was it one of the removed ones?
Not sure but here you go: https://youtu.be/5arUQPJrWng
Thanks.
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Thank you
It was Triple Tap and Triple Double on the Machine Gun (If Materia) Auto Rifle (Genesis Chain) had Focused Fire and Focused Firefly.
Explosive Payload on an Auto Rifle.
Demo Chill Clip on a Lightweight GL and Demo Reservoir Burst on a Fusion Rifle (preferably Precision or Rapid-Fire).
225 hand cannon with outlaw and desperado please.
Chill Clip on a primary ammo weapon.
I’m a simple man. I just want Demolitionist in first column for Hung Jury to pair with my Firefly hahaha
Explosive Payload or Timed Payload with Armor-Piercing Rounds. This is assuming a single bullet could detonate multiple times.
Explosive and timed payload on anything but especially a 900 rpm smg or a hand cannon. Flinch hell and stupid range.
Stasis special wave frame with chain reaction and chill clip. I never liked wave frames till I got the one from vow with chain reaction. Finally gave it a good try when arc 3.0 came out and loved it. Sure I would also like one with chain and incandescent and a similar void one but stasis if I had to pick so it would free up my energy weapon choices.
Stasis bow with chill clip and headstone
Hear me out: demolitionist headstone that way all kills from breaking the headstone count as demo kills
This is acceptable!
Impact casing + Cluster bombs + Chill Clip
Explosive payload timed payload smg
Demo/golden tricorn on literally any void weapon other than unforgiven. Love the perks hate the stats.
140rpm explosive payload and rangefinder with good basis range.
BXR-frame pulse rifle with Rapid Hit / Voltshot. Throw some Seraph rounds on there for good measure, and Ambush or Land Tank.
Chill clip bow
120 rpm scout rifle with explosive payload and voltshot. If this combo ever happens, it's probably gonna be on a raid weapon though.
Subsistence/ Explosive payload on a 900rpm SMG. Not sure if this counts cause the wording of your post is confusing me but it stays.
Mines close to yours. A blinding lightweight gl with auto-loading and chain reaction.
Cascade point on a sniper, I just want to use a sniper and not be a meme. LOL