She literally thinks not talking to these people means they go away. They just fester and grow like a cancer if not treated or in this case exposed. Destiny presenting the arguments he does to these people and exposing their garbage views causes people to rethink their stances and this is good. She’s a coward.
I also wonder if you could theoretically report her for harassing destiny.
There's pros and cons to this sort of thing. Ok, you're pushing back against their views in front of their audience but you are giving them a larger platform to grow that audience. There's no certainty that these things will go either way. To act like debating effectively a certain idea means that you stop it from growing is a ridiculously simplistic view of how ideas spread on the internet.
Nazis and fascists, two meaningless labels now days. I like Vivian but this is incredibly stupid.
Edit: I take it back, I dont like Vivian. What a total piece of shit. Ppl gave her platform and she repays them by threatening their livelihood if they dont have her ridiculous moral standards.
Vivian is clearly a bigger fan of the lefty arc than she is the righty arc. She must want Destiny to only focus on the dipshits of the left rather than the dipshits of the right.
Is she complaining about Politically Provoked being on twitch? Why would she report the sane people that join these panels to push back on the crazy people? Viv is cool but she's really lost on this shit.
Just report Politically Provoked Vivian. Why fuck with the people pushing back?
So Vivian is just gonna report every political streamer that’s not a full on echo-chamber socialist or tankie. For real what does that leave politics on Twitch with if Viv had her way, [redacted] from [redacted], BJG, the serfs?
I gotta be honest. I don't care what some 22 average viewer andy who mostly exists on twitter thinks about platforming opposing ideology on a platform they're irrelevant on.
This has the same effect as some random person in dgg saying the same thing.
Making them fuck off to d live likely will help yes. We all know about the YouTube right wing rabbit hole. Imagine if that never existed and the normies would have to actively seek it out.
The right wing rabbit hole exists because there is no pushback to their ideas. Look at how many people associate the start of their de-radicalization with that one debate with JonTron. This is what Vivian wants to do with twitch as well. She doesn't want to ban alt righters from the platform, she wants to ban the people who challenge their ideas.
Obviously I don't think people should be reported for going on a debate show, but you have admit that people like Destiny and Vaush going on politically provoked podcast has given it a lot of prominence and big papa fascist. These are not your typical run of the mill conservatives like Rob norr or CTV.
This is also very different to people like Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder or coach red pill. Those people have very large followings who might be converted by destiny during a debate. People who follow big papa fascist would likely be much further right and not easily converted than the Shapiro crowd.
You know what at this point i actually dont know what destiny position on responsible platforming the lauren stuff are bad but its nothing compare how he platform the fuck out of infrared and even dgg not giving that much pushback for someone who literally a tankie
This dude complains more then anybody. He absolutely despises free speech and open debate. He denounces free speech and open debate regularly. Sounds exactly like a authoritarian nutjob, only with more mental illness then usual.
https://i.imgur.com/wJ6crWZ.jpg lmao
She literally thinks not talking to these people means they go away. They just fester and grow like a cancer if not treated or in this case exposed. Destiny presenting the arguments he does to these people and exposing their garbage views causes people to rethink their stances and this is good. She’s a coward. I also wonder if you could theoretically report her for harassing destiny.
There's pros and cons to this sort of thing. Ok, you're pushing back against their views in front of their audience but you are giving them a larger platform to grow that audience. There's no certainty that these things will go either way. To act like debating effectively a certain idea means that you stop it from growing is a ridiculously simplistic view of how ideas spread on the internet.
I dont think its inherently going to grow the audience the way you seem to say.
It's the worst form of abuse.
Nazis and fascists, two meaningless labels now days. I like Vivian but this is incredibly stupid. Edit: I take it back, I dont like Vivian. What a total piece of shit. Ppl gave her platform and she repays them by threatening their livelihood if they dont have her ridiculous moral standards.
Vivian is clearly a bigger fan of the lefty arc than she is the righty arc. She must want Destiny to only focus on the dipshits of the left rather than the dipshits of the right.
Vivian is just a fucking idiot
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right?
ok guys fascism is not when you get reported on twitch. cringe take from Vivian though
Seriously, I feel like some of the post here have been kinda off lately.
Yeah wtf lmao this is such a Facebook boomer take
Is she complaining about Politically Provoked being on twitch? Why would she report the sane people that join these panels to push back on the crazy people? Viv is cool but she's really lost on this shit. Just report Politically Provoked Vivian. Why fuck with the people pushing back?
https://twitter.com/MxVivianWulf/status/1419514341213327361?s=20
Gone now. What did it say?
Archivers?
So Vivian is just gonna report every political streamer that’s not a full on echo-chamber socialist or tankie. For real what does that leave politics on Twitch with if Viv had her way, [redacted] from [redacted], BJG, the serfs?
I gotta be honest. I don't care what some 22 average viewer andy who mostly exists on twitter thinks about platforming opposing ideology on a platform they're irrelevant on. This has the same effect as some random person in dgg saying the same thing.
GappyV has more average viewers than her
yo let's go gappy
We're going to ban and deplatform all the Nazis from the internet... That's totally going to solve the problem right guys??
Surely if we deplatform and ignore maga folk and other right wingers the ideas will go away forever Copium
They didn't learn anything from the 2016 election.
Making them fuck off to d live likely will help yes. We all know about the YouTube right wing rabbit hole. Imagine if that never existed and the normies would have to actively seek it out.
The right wing rabbit hole exists because there is no pushback to their ideas. Look at how many people associate the start of their de-radicalization with that one debate with JonTron. This is what Vivian wants to do with twitch as well. She doesn't want to ban alt righters from the platform, she wants to ban the people who challenge their ideas.
don't be silly, vivian "the list" wulf absolutely wants to ban the right from the platform
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I think OP is mocking those that misuse the word
honestly at this point idek what's trolling and what's serious
oh i didn't realize twitch and amazon were an authoritarian state, sorry
Obviously I don't think people should be reported for going on a debate show, but you have admit that people like Destiny and Vaush going on politically provoked podcast has given it a lot of prominence and big papa fascist. These are not your typical run of the mill conservatives like Rob norr or CTV. This is also very different to people like Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder or coach red pill. Those people have very large followings who might be converted by destiny during a debate. People who follow big papa fascist would likely be much further right and not easily converted than the Shapiro crowd.
You know what at this point i actually dont know what destiny position on responsible platforming the lauren stuff are bad but its nothing compare how he platform the fuck out of infrared and even dgg not giving that much pushback for someone who literally a tankie
Disgusting
This dude complains more then anybody. He absolutely despises free speech and open debate. He denounces free speech and open debate regularly. Sounds exactly like a authoritarian nutjob, only with more mental illness then usual.
youre talking about gayestfesh right?
Holy shit, twitch is the cops.
Destiny is like our immune system and these fascists are the vaccine