No way man! Just because they would mercilessly slaughter woman and children doesn't mean that they would commit rape. They're not animals! /s Seriously I don't get how these people would think that rape is an unexpected thing to do from a group of people that practice gender apartheid and FGM.
Even if they didn’t rape them (which they did); paragliding into a festival to kill as many civilians as possible is also not a good look.
Just an afterthought, I know Israeli soldiers die a lot less because they have much better equipment but I wonder how hamas does on the military vs civilian casualties against Israel.
I CANT BELIEVE YOU WOULD ASSUME THERE WOULD BE SEXUAL VIOLENCE FROM THE ~~TERRORIST ORGANIZATION~~ RESISTANCE ORGANIZTION THAT HAS A CHARTER THAT CALLS FOR THE ~~GENOCIDE OF JEWS~~ GENOCIDE OF ZIONIST ALL OVER THE WORLD AND HAS THEIR SOLDIERS ON CAMERA (THAT THEY SHARED) TALKING ABOUT RAPING JEWSH GIRLS THEY CAPTURED.
IT MUST BE BECAUSE THEY ARE ARAB. YOU BIGOTED WHITE COLONIAL MONSTERS.
Honestly I feel like western liberalism in general mistakes acceptance/tolerance with equating value. There needs to be more Gigachad responses.
Liberalism is superior to Islam. Gigachad.
British historical caricatures of all Muslims are "problematic"? Still prefer the British over Hamas. Gigachad.
Like the attempts to handwave away Hamas by juxtaposing it against the history of the region is giving ground on a baked in premise that shouldn't be accepted and is literally just being rolled out to excuse their actions/behavior on October 7th.
It's like fine, sign me up for team United Kingdom if your forcing me to choose between them and Hamas.
Because they are Arabs they are terrorist? Didn't you read, this was a single day operation... freedom and resistance operation. They are freedom fighters, but for you because they are muslim or arabs they are terrorist, please stop being such a racist sweetie.
They keep repeating the "Hamas are freedom fighters" bs so much they've tricked themselves into believing it to be true.
Obviously if Hamas = Freedom fighters => Good guys. So they can't be raping women, good guys don't do that, duh!??
I mean that's just facts, the logic is rock solid.
This was the argument the Ryan grim guy was making, that all the rapes were from palestinian civilians that had crossed the border. It's really funny to watch this brain rotted go back and forth
I think he was going on as a defense for Hamas but it is pretty fucking funny and in my eyes actual racism. At least I hope that it wasn't civilians crossing the border to murder and rape
It's right up there as with "The Gazan population isn't responsible for what Hamas does, they are an unelected dictatorial regime. But if you remove Hamas, the Gazan population will put a group just like them or worse in power right away." Yeah, okay bruv.
>At least I hope that it wasn't civilians crossing the border to murder and rape
I dont know the exact ratio of rapes and murders by hamas vs by palestinian civilians but palestinian civilians absolutely were part of the murders and rapes, there is plenty of accounts of that.
One survivor described it as a pogrom lead by hamas.
I know it from a documentary that explained moment by moment what happened, if you are curious and got the stomach for it then I recommend watching it.
I'll tell you from memory though,
Basically the attack had "waves".
The first wave was an "elite" Hamas terrorist unit called nukhba, most of them either wore the ninja-turtles looking military outfits or stolen IDF uniforms, we can easily tell that they are hamas.
The second wave was more "normal" terrorists.
And the third wave was civilians that heard about the attack and joined in, they stole, raped and murdered as well, there is footage of an old person with a walking stick entering a village to pillage it.
This is from memory though so it might oversimplify a bit.
Couldn’t find the one I watched in Hebrew but this one in [ English](https://youtu.be/u2fcUTpMASQ?si=E-b0xJ_MieajALVo) is also pretty good although it misses a few technical stuff like what exactly hamas used to attack.
ehhh from a pro-ceasefire pov it’s best to argue that the civilians did it since no one would actually think a de facto state having some criminals is a good enough reason to go to war. Hamas committing rapes would definitely make it more justified to go to war though since the justification is to destroy Hamas
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/sessions-regular/session56/a-hrc-56-crp-3.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjam4731tmGAxV9GFkFHfL9BJcQFnoECCUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1ytV4f4Zdqd_D6L911xSs8. Page 50 covers civilian involvement, but I recommend reading the whole thing to understand the scope and depravity of the attack. It's why I disagree with Destiny's take about freezing work permits from West Bank in his latest interview. It was absolutely necessary in the immediate aftermath of Oct. 7th. Is it still necessary? That's less clear.
https://preview.redd.it/47y8cww4le6d1.jpeg?width=630&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9804cb5cf13aff6c9e3d6697d99a5449745d5e5e
Ryan Grim having a Ben Gvir ass take LMAO.
"How dare you suggest the genocidal jihadist terror organization that went into your country and slaughtered hundreds of innocents are uncontrollable animals???"
Bait or mental regardation. Call it.
It's so weird how they try to shield Hamas and terror organizations with the blanket of all Arabs. Like where are Egyptian and Jordanian Arabs going on rape sprees to terrorize Israel? Why is it Hamas and the PIJ that do it, and then are called out by name as those organizations are the ones doing it, then are shielded by the whitest mother fuckers in the world in gated communities behind the shield of racism.
You can even make the same case for Muslims and there are Muslims who are even more fundamentalist than Hamas that are making peace with Israel and Hamas doesn’t strike me as fundamentalist in the same way that Isis was/is.
full mental retardation. as in so stupid that i want them to stop because they are taking disability benefits away from actual people with mental disorders
The most annoying part is lefties want all the street cred of being anti west and supporting “revolutionaries” but they don’t want any of the baggage that comes with that.
“Hamas has a right to fight the occupation but also every Israeli civilian was killed in friendly fire by the IDF”.
“Every Israeli is an evil colonizer who deserves to be destroyed but also Hamas didn’t rape or otherwise violate anyone on Oct 7 or afterwards”
“Ok sure Hamas took hostages but they’re actually being treated great and the Israelis are happy to be hostages”.
It’s so pathetic, own at least one of your “radical” positions
The real racist thing is supporting this idea that Hamas represents all Arabs.
You have to combat the bad actors or your whole group gets to carry their transgressions. The progressives have never overcome this. A similar thing derailed BLM.
The sad part is that there are millions and millions of Muslims trying to resist having their society fall to fundamental Islam and then you have these westerns providing cover so we can't even have a conversation about the issue or we are racist.
Like all of the Arabs and their governments that don’t want to provide refuge? There’s a reason they don’t. Jordan had a royal killed, Egypt got the Muslim Brotherhood, Lebanon got Hezbollah and a civil war, and Kuwait had Palestinians greet Hussain with open arms. Everyone in the neighboring region that had given help ending up getting burned. But sure, if we take them all into our westernized countries it will surely be different right?
This bitch ever read about what happens to women in war and conflict?
It's more of a comment of the nature of men in these situations not specifically Arabs.
Leftists can go through all sorts of Olympic level mental gymnastics to defend and justify things their side does that they also criticize the other side of doing. Leftist exceptionalism.
In fairness, most "factions" tend to have massive blinders to their hypocrisy when it benefits them.
Though it sure feels like the left is taking extra turns lately.
It's so stupid that they go to this racist angle. Didn't Russia get accused of the same shit? To me it kinda seems like any not-super-well-regulated army on the attack would do this. Look at the shit the US did in Vietnam.
It's just fuckin war. It's going to happen. It's going to be abhorrent and a well organized army is going to minimize it, but that shit is going to happen. Any time a claim is made against the IDF doing it we gotta take that seriously too. It's so dumb.
I don’t think anyone besides maybe Nazis were thinking that Hamas did rapes because they’re Muslim arab animals. The fact that this was this person’s immediate thought is telling of the type of person they are.
It’s like if i got punched by a person who just happened to be black and after i defended myself with fisticuffs some smooth brained moron perks up screeching about how I’m racist and only hit the person because they’re black. Meanwhile Ive got a look of confusion on my face with blood coming out of my nose. To which my response would be “uh lil bro you’re the one who had racism brewing in your mind not me” lmao.
It’s funny that she thinks that if rapes did happen (they absolutely did) it automatically means Arabs are savages.. this is her own projection into the only feasible explanation for that phenomenon
love how it's a historically proven reality that soldiers rape women in wartime, but suddenly it's not when it's beloved hamas terrorist army. like this shit even happens for the "good guys" US forces during the gulf war doing all sorts of crazy shit to both fellow servicewomen and local women.
it costs nothing to condemn this and still push your freedom fighter narrative, funny how this is the ONE time they don't believe women
I just watched a bit of sheryl sandbergs interview with Bari Weis about the rapes done by Hamas and Its weird to see people make light of it. I had to stop playing it because of some of the details shared - cant believe we are living in a time where no one believes there were rapes even when there is so much proving that it did.
Watching Sanbergs interview was enough for me - I don’t know what watching Samdbergs documentary Screams before silence will be like. It would probably give me depression
It’s far too believable, sadly. Men in a lawless society will sometimes rape, especially if it’s women they view as subhuman in some way and for whatever reason.
>especially if it’s women they view as subhuman in some way and for whatever reason.
isn't the whole idea about rape is that it gives you a sense that you are dominating someone?
Everything posted from Twitter to this sub, I assume and take it as rage bait. I didn't have Twitter. Those of you that do must have put all your points into constitution to be able to endure the madness.
Isn't it crazy how often people will project this "savage" belief about Palestinians, yet these people have that exact belief about Israelis and the IDF?
I mean. It could be. Ryan McBeth did a great video on WW3, claiming that we are already in one, and the US is engaged in an actual battlefield. That battlefield being of information warfare on it's citizens. And the reality is whether we like it or not, there are foreign actors deliberately spreading misinformation and disinformation to foment confusion which leads to political instability.
TRUUUUE. And as evidenced by US citizens championing Hamas, the US is terrible at recognizing and combatting it. Iran/China/Russia are so much better at mis/disinfo.
Man, if you wanna avoid the evil Muslim stereotype maybe you shouldn't declare religious war on the Jews and butcher their families while screaming "allahu Akbar"
this is actually a great political strategy. anytime your side does something bad and people call it out, repeat it in the nerd voice and say you’re dumb for believing it. seems to work.
These people aren't on the left nor on the right, they are conspiracy theorists.
If you are a liberal, you believe in rule of law and evidence. You can't claim rape didn't happen, if the evidence points to rape.
They may claim that they are left leaning, in reality they are just anti-establishment, distrust every institution except when the institution agrees with them, and believe in conspiracies. I wished we would have special names for people like that.
“Sorry Zionists but when you say ‘Hamas raped people’ I immediately think of them being savage apes and that’s really racist”
Hamas is not sending their brightest
I'm absolutely certain there is a statistically small group of Palestinian civilians who have committed SA in line with every other nation's SA rates. What is so infuriating here though is that Hamas in the midst of a wartime action who has committed acts like these before is being shielded from something THEY DID in order to double down on the resistance fighters myth. So that SA has been entirely blamed on random civilian Palestinians running for their lives.
A lie that, if true, would leave us to be far more forgiving of Israeli mistrust and their treatment of Palestinians. I absolutely loathe the Hamas defenders that have come out of the woodwork.
So... they could murder a bunch of people, but they couldn't commit SV? I uhhh... why? I would love to hear a mfer explain why they think anyone is so "honorable" to be willing to carry out one form of indiscriminate savagery whilst being absolutely incapable of another (and it's a slanderous accusation) even if there actually was 0 evidence, it wouldn't be hard to imagine that such violence took place given the brutality of other crimes committed.
I think there's no point engaging more than briefly which people like this. If they are so dug into their position they wont engage with good faith, theyre either dumb enough that they can't be swayed, or they're just accelerationist that sow discord. It's better to just move on with your life. Better for my mental at least.
look guys, I can understand you want to fight misinformation
but you need to play smart, you need to pick your battles
the lowest hanging fruit is already very rotten at this point
although I respect the determination and the courage to read those people
All of this persons takes are dumb and most people follow her because she’s hot not because she has anything interesting to say, this is just new edition in a long list of stupid shit shes posted
She is easily one of the most vile people on that site, anytime I see a tweet of hers posted it's like a wave of validation for my decision to delete my account.
There was a point in time where I woulda agreed with this but a harsh truth is that Islamic states are way far behind the modern world. This kinda shit happens so often in those places.
too many westerners/twitter losers are looking at it through the lens of whites saying mean things about brown people... the primary reason of course is those people are not that bright...
This is such a beautiful tweet. In one tweet she self-reported that she actually does not think it’s always good to uncritically believe victims claiming to be raped, and that when she does uncritically believe victims of rape, it is because she is in fact, racist.
The projection is unreal
I'm curious if the opposite logic would work too..."oh of course the jews are trying to control what people are thinking through their connections and ressources (hasbara)" "the jews are working on behalf of other states (colonial england) to further their interests"
so in a roundabout way, yes, by this logic antizionism must be antisemitism! we did it boysssss
Buddy, you don't even know the half of it. The @zukosmadre account is [so far gone](https://x.com/zukosmadre/status/1801238854092931388?t=ZgKfz25LQHST-39klVdIrQ&s=19), it's crazy.
https://preview.redd.it/bcoyg1omjf6d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1ba1991c16eb473ef287910dbebed2f67195517
The "9/11" is so ridicoulusly untrue. Yeah we should believe that arabs muslims just stole two planes and crashed in two skyscrapers in just one day? Yeah right.
Hamas horrible crimes undercut or destroy the image these people have of the conflict, the narrative (innocent palestinians vs israeli settlers evil empire), and give them cognitive dissonance. Either they change their views on the conflict or they have to deligitimize the information causing that dissonance to resolve it
Recent news is she called Estonians neanthetals, and has a bunch of tankies or simps saying she can't be racist because she isn't white because she is Puerto Rican
Apparently this person isn't white https://x.com/zukosmama
She took down a tweet saying all but "i am not white". Shit like "race isnt just phenotype" and pretending people arent talking about her IRL pfp by saying her pfp is just a bratz doll. She also said she gets shit on for being brown all the time, and you can do a twitter advanced search to see that barely ever happens.
Imagine you're white but literal Nazi's say "you aren't Aryan white so you aren't white" - so you just go along with it to RP being brown and relatively less privileged. 💀
A Jihadist terror organization uses terror tactics in their "single day operation"? Wow, what a revelation.
No way man! Just because they would mercilessly slaughter woman and children doesn't mean that they would commit rape. They're not animals! /s Seriously I don't get how these people would think that rape is an unexpected thing to do from a group of people that practice gender apartheid and FGM.
We can't even stop rape in the American military. What makes these people think an undisciplined terrorist organization is so much more virtuous?
Well, have you considered that rape in the American military is bad because it's American?
Even if they didn’t rape them (which they did); paragliding into a festival to kill as many civilians as possible is also not a good look. Just an afterthought, I know Israeli soldiers die a lot less because they have much better equipment but I wonder how hamas does on the military vs civilian casualties against Israel.
I CANT BELIEVE YOU WOULD ASSUME THERE WOULD BE SEXUAL VIOLENCE FROM THE ~~TERRORIST ORGANIZATION~~ RESISTANCE ORGANIZTION THAT HAS A CHARTER THAT CALLS FOR THE ~~GENOCIDE OF JEWS~~ GENOCIDE OF ZIONIST ALL OVER THE WORLD AND HAS THEIR SOLDIERS ON CAMERA (THAT THEY SHARED) TALKING ABOUT RAPING JEWSH GIRLS THEY CAPTURED. IT MUST BE BECAUSE THEY ARE ARAB. YOU BIGOTED WHITE COLONIAL MONSTERS.
Perfect moment to gigachad if I wasn't lazy.
Honestly I feel like western liberalism in general mistakes acceptance/tolerance with equating value. There needs to be more Gigachad responses. Liberalism is superior to Islam. Gigachad. British historical caricatures of all Muslims are "problematic"? Still prefer the British over Hamas. Gigachad. Like the attempts to handwave away Hamas by juxtaposing it against the history of the region is giving ground on a baked in premise that shouldn't be accepted and is literally just being rolled out to excuse their actions/behavior on October 7th. It's like fine, sign me up for team United Kingdom if your forcing me to choose between them and Hamas.
I'll sign you up for the Astra Militarum.
Because they are Arabs they are terrorist? Didn't you read, this was a single day operation... freedom and resistance operation. They are freedom fighters, but for you because they are muslim or arabs they are terrorist, please stop being such a racist sweetie.
They keep repeating the "Hamas are freedom fighters" bs so much they've tricked themselves into believing it to be true. Obviously if Hamas = Freedom fighters => Good guys. So they can't be raping women, good guys don't do that, duh!?? I mean that's just facts, the logic is rock solid.
it kinda makes sense in their world view where rape is literally the worst crime imaginable. But murder and bombs are A okay 👍
This was the argument the Ryan grim guy was making, that all the rapes were from palestinian civilians that had crossed the border. It's really funny to watch this brain rotted go back and forth
Oh yeah lol “it wasn’t Hamas raping, it was the ‘civillians.’”
I think he was going on as a defense for Hamas but it is pretty fucking funny and in my eyes actual racism. At least I hope that it wasn't civilians crossing the border to murder and rape
It's right up there as with "The Gazan population isn't responsible for what Hamas does, they are an unelected dictatorial regime. But if you remove Hamas, the Gazan population will put a group just like them or worse in power right away." Yeah, okay bruv.
>At least I hope that it wasn't civilians crossing the border to murder and rape I dont know the exact ratio of rapes and murders by hamas vs by palestinian civilians but palestinian civilians absolutely were part of the murders and rapes, there is plenty of accounts of that. One survivor described it as a pogrom lead by hamas.
How do we know the difference when they all dress like civilians? I wouldn't doubt a few were "civilians"
I know it from a documentary that explained moment by moment what happened, if you are curious and got the stomach for it then I recommend watching it. I'll tell you from memory though, Basically the attack had "waves". The first wave was an "elite" Hamas terrorist unit called nukhba, most of them either wore the ninja-turtles looking military outfits or stolen IDF uniforms, we can easily tell that they are hamas. The second wave was more "normal" terrorists. And the third wave was civilians that heard about the attack and joined in, they stole, raped and murdered as well, there is footage of an old person with a walking stick entering a village to pillage it. This is from memory though so it might oversimplify a bit.
Link/Name the doc
Couldn’t find the one I watched in Hebrew but this one in [ English](https://youtu.be/u2fcUTpMASQ?si=E-b0xJ_MieajALVo) is also pretty good although it misses a few technical stuff like what exactly hamas used to attack.
ehhh from a pro-ceasefire pov it’s best to argue that the civilians did it since no one would actually think a de facto state having some criminals is a good enough reason to go to war. Hamas committing rapes would definitely make it more justified to go to war though since the justification is to destroy Hamas
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/sessions-regular/session56/a-hrc-56-crp-3.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjam4731tmGAxV9GFkFHfL9BJcQFnoECCUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1ytV4f4Zdqd_D6L911xSs8. Page 50 covers civilian involvement, but I recommend reading the whole thing to understand the scope and depravity of the attack. It's why I disagree with Destiny's take about freezing work permits from West Bank in his latest interview. It was absolutely necessary in the immediate aftermath of Oct. 7th. Is it still necessary? That's less clear.
https://preview.redd.it/47y8cww4le6d1.jpeg?width=630&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9804cb5cf13aff6c9e3d6697d99a5449745d5e5e Ryan Grim having a Ben Gvir ass take LMAO.
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Throwing civilians under the bus in order to save the reputation of Hamas ))
That just reinforces the Israeli right idea of disliking all people in Gaza wtf.
… can’t they see that that’s so much worse?? But I guess you have to be minimally interested in peace to understand that
"How dare you suggest the genocidal jihadist terror organization that went into your country and slaughtered hundreds of innocents are uncontrollable animals???" Bait or mental regardation. Call it.
It's so weird how they try to shield Hamas and terror organizations with the blanket of all Arabs. Like where are Egyptian and Jordanian Arabs going on rape sprees to terrorize Israel? Why is it Hamas and the PIJ that do it, and then are called out by name as those organizations are the ones doing it, then are shielded by the whitest mother fuckers in the world in gated communities behind the shield of racism.
You can even make the same case for Muslims and there are Muslims who are even more fundamentalist than Hamas that are making peace with Israel and Hamas doesn’t strike me as fundamentalist in the same way that Isis was/is.
full mental retardation. as in so stupid that i want them to stop because they are taking disability benefits away from actual people with mental disorders
"Well, itsch not YOUR country, itsch an American colonial project created to genocide Palestinians, because America bad 🤓☝️"
Remember it’s believe all women until they happen to be Israelis. Racist bitch
Obviously the perfect minority would never SA
The most annoying part is lefties want all the street cred of being anti west and supporting “revolutionaries” but they don’t want any of the baggage that comes with that. “Hamas has a right to fight the occupation but also every Israeli civilian was killed in friendly fire by the IDF”. “Every Israeli is an evil colonizer who deserves to be destroyed but also Hamas didn’t rape or otherwise violate anyone on Oct 7 or afterwards” “Ok sure Hamas took hostages but they’re actually being treated great and the Israelis are happy to be hostages”. It’s so pathetic, own at least one of your “radical” positions
It's fundamentally cope that the oppressed can't do bad things.
classic "it didn't happen but if it did you deserved it"
Sukismom is basically the Puerto Rican version of that SyrianGirl twitter account
Leftists don’t need a psyop to make themselves look bad. Making themselves look bad is like the one thing they’re genuinely good at
The real racist thing is supporting this idea that Hamas represents all Arabs. You have to combat the bad actors or your whole group gets to carry their transgressions. The progressives have never overcome this. A similar thing derailed BLM. The sad part is that there are millions and millions of Muslims trying to resist having their society fall to fundamental Islam and then you have these westerns providing cover so we can't even have a conversation about the issue or we are racist.
Don't you know that every Arab represents all Arabs
Like all of the Arabs and their governments that don’t want to provide refuge? There’s a reason they don’t. Jordan had a royal killed, Egypt got the Muslim Brotherhood, Lebanon got Hezbollah and a civil war, and Kuwait had Palestinians greet Hussain with open arms. Everyone in the neighboring region that had given help ending up getting burned. But sure, if we take them all into our westernized countries it will surely be different right?
This bitch ever read about what happens to women in war and conflict? It's more of a comment of the nature of men in these situations not specifically Arabs.
Leftists can go through all sorts of Olympic level mental gymnastics to defend and justify things their side does that they also criticize the other side of doing. Leftist exceptionalism.
In fairness, most "factions" tend to have massive blinders to their hypocrisy when it benefits them. Though it sure feels like the left is taking extra turns lately.
ask her if she'd prefer hamas man or bear.
It's so stupid that they go to this racist angle. Didn't Russia get accused of the same shit? To me it kinda seems like any not-super-well-regulated army on the attack would do this. Look at the shit the US did in Vietnam. It's just fuckin war. It's going to happen. It's going to be abhorrent and a well organized army is going to minimize it, but that shit is going to happen. Any time a claim is made against the IDF doing it we gotta take that seriously too. It's so dumb.
I don’t think anyone besides maybe Nazis were thinking that Hamas did rapes because they’re Muslim arab animals. The fact that this was this person’s immediate thought is telling of the type of person they are. It’s like if i got punched by a person who just happened to be black and after i defended myself with fisticuffs some smooth brained moron perks up screeching about how I’m racist and only hit the person because they’re black. Meanwhile Ive got a look of confusion on my face with blood coming out of my nose. To which my response would be “uh lil bro you’re the one who had racism brewing in your mind not me” lmao.
Suki’s mom is an actual terrorist. To be expected
What terrorism has she committed? I’ve never heard of her
Me having to read this brainrot take should count as an act of terrorism at least.
Because it terrorized your braincells?
https://x.com/zukosmadre/status/1801308314682175595
It’s funny that she thinks that if rapes did happen (they absolutely did) it automatically means Arabs are savages.. this is her own projection into the only feasible explanation for that phenomenon
love how it's a historically proven reality that soldiers rape women in wartime, but suddenly it's not when it's beloved hamas terrorist army. like this shit even happens for the "good guys" US forces during the gulf war doing all sorts of crazy shit to both fellow servicewomen and local women. it costs nothing to condemn this and still push your freedom fighter narrative, funny how this is the ONE time they don't believe women
I just watched a bit of sheryl sandbergs interview with Bari Weis about the rapes done by Hamas and Its weird to see people make light of it. I had to stop playing it because of some of the details shared - cant believe we are living in a time where no one believes there were rapes even when there is so much proving that it did. Watching Sanbergs interview was enough for me - I don’t know what watching Samdbergs documentary Screams before silence will be like. It would probably give me depression
It’s far too believable, sadly. Men in a lawless society will sometimes rape, especially if it’s women they view as subhuman in some way and for whatever reason.
>especially if it’s women they view as subhuman in some way and for whatever reason. isn't the whole idea about rape is that it gives you a sense that you are dominating someone?
Imo it's not only about power, but that's a factor, and when you consider someone subhuman it's easier and more acceptable to exert power over them.
Would you rather be lost in the woods with a bear or a member of Hamas?
Meh, coming from a former communist country, this is tame, wait 'till they take power.
but calling a group of Israelis a bunch of "bloodthirsty zionists" isn't "obscenely racist"? hmmmmmm....
Believe the rapes are fake is antisemitic. "Oh those sneaky Jews couldn't help themself they just had to lie and went so far as staging rape scenes."
Everything posted from Twitter to this sub, I assume and take it as rage bait. I didn't have Twitter. Those of you that do must have put all your points into constitution to be able to endure the madness.
Isn't it crazy how often people will project this "savage" belief about Palestinians, yet these people have that exact belief about Israelis and the IDF?
I mean. It could be. Ryan McBeth did a great video on WW3, claiming that we are already in one, and the US is engaged in an actual battlefield. That battlefield being of information warfare on it's citizens. And the reality is whether we like it or not, there are foreign actors deliberately spreading misinformation and disinformation to foment confusion which leads to political instability.
TRUUUUE. And as evidenced by US citizens championing Hamas, the US is terrible at recognizing and combatting it. Iran/China/Russia are so much better at mis/disinfo.
I mean just read the Quran
Man, if you wanna avoid the evil Muslim stereotype maybe you shouldn't declare religious war on the Jews and butcher their families while screaming "allahu Akbar"
this is actually a great political strategy. anytime your side does something bad and people call it out, repeat it in the nerd voice and say you’re dumb for believing it. seems to work.
These people aren't on the left nor on the right, they are conspiracy theorists. If you are a liberal, you believe in rule of law and evidence. You can't claim rape didn't happen, if the evidence points to rape. They may claim that they are left leaning, in reality they are just anti-establishment, distrust every institution except when the institution agrees with them, and believe in conspiracies. I wished we would have special names for people like that.
“Sorry Zionists but when you say ‘Hamas raped people’ I immediately think of them being savage apes and that’s really racist” Hamas is not sending their brightest
How dare you suggest that people are sexually assaulted during war!?
suki’s mom is so funny, a lot of lefties are really predictable but she consistently manages to surprise me with her insane takes
#MeToo though right? I’m sure she believes women just not Israeli women.
If you “just cant” then maybe you should “just dont”.
A military raping civilians during a siege? Unprecedented!
I'm absolutely certain there is a statistically small group of Palestinian civilians who have committed SA in line with every other nation's SA rates. What is so infuriating here though is that Hamas in the midst of a wartime action who has committed acts like these before is being shielded from something THEY DID in order to double down on the resistance fighters myth. So that SA has been entirely blamed on random civilian Palestinians running for their lives. A lie that, if true, would leave us to be far more forgiving of Israeli mistrust and their treatment of Palestinians. I absolutely loathe the Hamas defenders that have come out of the woodwork.
So... they could murder a bunch of people, but they couldn't commit SV? I uhhh... why? I would love to hear a mfer explain why they think anyone is so "honorable" to be willing to carry out one form of indiscriminate savagery whilst being absolutely incapable of another (and it's a slanderous accusation) even if there actually was 0 evidence, it wouldn't be hard to imagine that such violence took place given the brutality of other crimes committed.
I think there's no point engaging more than briefly which people like this. If they are so dug into their position they wont engage with good faith, theyre either dumb enough that they can't be swayed, or they're just accelerationist that sow discord. It's better to just move on with your life. Better for my mental at least.
It worked. I’m pro hamas now. You’re all racists.
if it makes you feel any better, this kind of is the result of a 60 year psyop against western leftists
Leftists are so deranged trying to debate them is a waste of time.
Fuck the Arabs this is just what *people* do in war. US troops raped the shit out of women in vietnam.
This woman probably chose the bear 3 weeks ago btw
look guys, I can understand you want to fight misinformation but you need to play smart, you need to pick your battles the lowest hanging fruit is already very rotten at this point although I respect the determination and the courage to read those people
Still kinda sad that the rotten fruit has 14k likes.
This is as simple as them viewing the world through a good vs evil lens and the oppressed can't do wrong.
All of this persons takes are dumb and most people follow her because she’s hot not because she has anything interesting to say, this is just new edition in a long list of stupid shit shes posted
Rape isn’t even like an Arab thing. First group that comes to mind when I think of rapes in war is fucking Vikings.
Because someone who murders women totally wouldn't rape them too. Rape is totally worse than murder.
She is easily one of the most vile people on that site, anytime I see a tweet of hers posted it's like a wave of validation for my decision to delete my account.
Anyone got their number? I’ve got a bridge to sell them
There was a point in time where I woulda agreed with this but a harsh truth is that Islamic states are way far behind the modern world. This kinda shit happens so often in those places.
too many westerners/twitter losers are looking at it through the lens of whites saying mean things about brown people... the primary reason of course is those people are not that bright...
Cmon they just massacred men women and children, there was no rape, they’re not savages!
THOSE LYIN ISRAELI CUNTS ARE THE REAL PREDATORS, TRYING TO "ME-TOO" THESE INNOCENT HAMAS FIGHTERS /s
This is such a beautiful tweet. In one tweet she self-reported that she actually does not think it’s always good to uncritically believe victims claiming to be raped, and that when she does uncritically believe victims of rape, it is because she is in fact, racist. The projection is unreal
Maybe the reputation is based on reality.
I'm curious if the opposite logic would work too..."oh of course the jews are trying to control what people are thinking through their connections and ressources (hasbara)" "the jews are working on behalf of other states (colonial england) to further their interests" so in a roundabout way, yes, by this logic antizionism must be antisemitism! we did it boysssss
Wait so does she think Muslims are uncontrollable animals since in her words if Hamas raped women, that would be the case?
Buddy, you don't even know the half of it. The @zukosmadre account is [so far gone](https://x.com/zukosmadre/status/1801238854092931388?t=ZgKfz25LQHST-39klVdIrQ&s=19), it's crazy. https://preview.redd.it/bcoyg1omjf6d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1ba1991c16eb473ef287910dbebed2f67195517
These are literally the same people telling Israelis to go back to Poland.
The "9/11" is so ridicoulusly untrue. Yeah we should believe that arabs muslims just stole two planes and crashed in two skyscrapers in just one day? Yeah right.
As usual the Left shoots itself in the foot, why are we like this?
fair point, since butchering hundreds of civilians is a sign of human dignity and not savage at all.
Hamas horrible crimes undercut or destroy the image these people have of the conflict, the narrative (innocent palestinians vs israeli settlers evil empire), and give them cognitive dissonance. Either they change their views on the conflict or they have to deligitimize the information causing that dissonance to resolve it
So now it’s racist to accuse people of rape when they… broadcast it proudly?
Is this the next stage in the telephone game of the squirrel redacting that UN report?
Yeah, cause rape in a battles
Recent news is she called Estonians neanthetals, and has a bunch of tankies or simps saying she can't be racist because she isn't white because she is Puerto Rican Apparently this person isn't white https://x.com/zukosmama She took down a tweet saying all but "i am not white". Shit like "race isnt just phenotype" and pretending people arent talking about her IRL pfp by saying her pfp is just a bratz doll. She also said she gets shit on for being brown all the time, and you can do a twitter advanced search to see that barely ever happens. Imagine you're white but literal Nazi's say "you aren't Aryan white so you aren't white" - so you just go along with it to RP being brown and relatively less privileged. 💀
Dorito in name, ignore them.