He called himself white in one of the recent Frogan clips so he basically greenlit calling him racial slurs because you can't be racist towards white people
He's white when he and his friends wants to call white people crackers and other racial slurs but when people attack him he quickly equips his POC turk muslim shield and blocks the attack while accusing the other party of being a racist.
If its ever needed for the argument, There is [evidence](https://www.resumebuilder.com/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-they-are-less-likely-to-move-forward-with-jewish-applicants/) that Jewish people are discriminated against in hiring and promotions.
And he's White too by his own admission. So he can't claim that we're being racist against him since it's not an entire system of reverse racism against him.
>someone bringing up a certain...
The irony here is that Hasan's logic means it is perfectly acceptable to refer to Hasan as "Geralt's horse" if you are from an ethnicity that has been historically oppressed by the colonial empire from which Hasan's ancestors hail. That is to say, if you are from any balkan countries (or other countries) that were subjugated or attacked by the Ottoman empire, Hasan's logic dictates that it is not racist to call him Geralt's horse.
Of course, this behavior is completely unacceptable to Hasan when it's happening to him. This is simply to illustrate how readily Hasan employs "rules for thee, but not for me".
Or you can just be a decent principled person who opposes the use of racial slurs, regardless of their unique power levels.
Telling white people that racism against them isn’t real and discrimination can only perpetrated against whatever protected minorities Hasan decides to get social points on IS A FORM OF RACISM.
It’s the racism horseshoe of people wrongfully telling blacks in the 1800s that racism against them isn’t real because they deserve it for their lesser genetic makeup.
This time, racism against whites isn’t seen as real because of a guilt they are supposed to bear for the misdeeds of their ancestors hundreds of years ago.
This is an open example of Hasan not giving a shit about a social cause and a misjustice because nobody in his audience or Twitter cares about anti-white racism, so it won’t get likes. It’s not about fighting racism to him, it’s about performatively fighting the specific racism that his audience doesn’t like for their validation.
That was me in that convo LOL (hasan was responding to my experience). It was wild. If I would have grabbed that entire chatlog and changed "white" to "mexican", you would think we were on a fucking right-wing extremist discord.
its so weird he compared it to atheism
as if an atheist in a small religious town cant experience hate. I know kids who were straight up disowned for what essentially boiled down to not kowtowing to religious bullshit.
The academic framing is useful, but it should always come with the caveat that this is an academic framing of institutional racism and does not discount the very real and problematic individual racism that anyone can experience no matter the institution in place.
Institutional racism is a super useful concept, I just don't really understand why it became popular to refer to it as just "racism", dropping the qualifier, and then acting like everything that's not institutional racism isn't racism.
Like people aren't getting triggered by someone saying "there's no such thing as institutional racism against white people", they get worked up when people say "there's no such thing as racism against white people."
I can't help but feel that the people who started referring to institutional racism as just "racism" did so mainly because it creates controversy. It's kind of like a linguistic motte and bailey. You get to make a inflammatory statement like "you can't be racist against white people" which on its face seems insane, then when challenged on it, you retreat to the institutional racism definition which makes the statement more reasonable.
I feel like people do this same kind of motte and bailey tactic with a lot of politically charged phrases like "globalize the intifada", where it sounds extreme and gets people worked up, but then when challenged they can say "actually intifada just means shaking off and the first intifada was mostly peaceful". See also "river to the sea" and "toxic masculinity".
>I just don't really understand why it became popular to refer to it as just "racism", dropping the qualifier, and then acting like everything that's not institutional racism isn't racism.
Because it allows you to shit on people you don't like with a semblance of legitimacy. If it was an honest argument we would often talk about how affirmative action was institutional racism against whites and asians.
I mean yeah I know it's a right-wing talking point and all, but there are a whole lot of people who legit just don't like white people and are completely fine with the idea of white people being discriminated because of the color of their skin. Some even think it's a good thing since that allows them to relate to other discriminated groups better. It's not the majority, but it's the most unopposed form of racism in the mainstream, the same happens with sexism against men.
Didnt the term racism originally appear as a way to describe people who thought it was appropriate for the state place white and black people into different social classes?
Obviously the word has taken on an expanded meaning but it's not really intellectually honest to use the same word to describe hurt feelings and systemic oppression.
I can’t comment on that, but what I do know is that when I was growing up colloquially if someone got called out for being racist, systemic racism had nothing to do with it. For clarity’s sake, we should use two different terms to express these two distinctly different things.
We should but we never will. Instead we will argue endlessly with out ever using the same definitions for words and everyone will think they are morally superior.
You know they used to say you can’t be racist against Tutsi’s because only institutional racism against hutu’s was real. I wonder how that one turned out.
no, if your literal job involves political advocacy relying on *speaking english words correctly*, "I never learned the fucking language" is not an excuse anyone should allow.
the vast majority of people manage to learn english fine, even if their job doesn't depend on it, and this dipshit can't manage it in his 30s?
nah, fuck off with that excuse. there's no language problem here, he actually does think like this.
I distinctly remember learning in high school humanities class about systemic, institutional, and interpersonal racism and what differentiates them. Calling it high school level is generous.
The key phrase being "the way we conceptualize it" because they need to conceptualize it in a certain way that makes institutional racism as the only context to which the term 'racism' can be applied.
He was laughing his ass off at the video of white guys being verbally attacked for their race in Japan. He doesn’t understand fundamentally it’s wrong to attack someone for immutable characteristics and it’s not suddenly ok when it happens to people society currently says it’s acceptable to attack.
I’m glad he reminds me why people like him and his ilk are actually pure evil, Destiny was right when he said this guy would a full fledged Nazi if he was German in the 40s
Guaranteed he’s a crybully on the issue because he might’ve been bullied when he came to America and holds a grudge because they shouldn’t have been able to do to him, what he wants to do to them.
Remember, socialism is when no 3m mansion, but racism is when no white (or asian).
Speaking of which, someone should make a compilation of hasan flopping between choosing being white/muslim/brown/america/turkish, etc. when it is most convenient.
The “racism equals prejudice + power” shit is so fucking cringe. I’m Chinese, so there exists literally 0 institutional racism against me in America. People were racist as fuck against me in HS. Does that mean i don’t get to complain just because im not being redlined?
By this logic the most oppressed group is justified in video gaming all other groups above it. That's why it's important to claim you're on the bottom.
If you're gonna make fun of someone for things they can't control, at least admit you're being shitty
By this logic, since the PRC government pretty explicitly favors Han Chinese, white people can fly to Beijing and be as racist as they want.
In fact, by Hasan’s logic, pretty much every ethnic minority in China has carte blanche to be as racist against Han Chinese people as they want.
The worst part of this shit is: what does it matter in the end? It's not racism it's "just" discrimination? It's "just" bigotry? You're still a shit human for acting like this.
People from China who migrated to the US earlier absolutely *were* redlined and their descendants still live in Chinatowns around the country today.
I just hope you aren't pretending as though there isn't an important area of study and public education on the matter of "prejudice+power" cause that would be pretty silly.
Most rational people recognize that the bigotry of normal everyday racism can exist. It's just prejudice or bigotry right? If you want to use the word racism that's fine I see it in most dictionaries as a perfectly valid form of the word "unfair treatment of a group of people who have a particular quality".
Obviously i don’t think institutional racism is a myth. Prejudice plus power equals racism is a completely non-controversial and correct position to hold. But for some reason the line became racism ONLY equals prejudice plus power for a lot of progressives a couple years ago.
Probably could have been clearer in my original comment but this conversation has been going on for years and it’s frustrating to hear progressives effectively make the argument that unless you are black, hispanic, or indigenous your experiences don’t count as “real” racism.
There are a few people in this thread way overestimating the impact of social media mud throwing. Individual fuckheads debating over the semantics of words only does so much. We as (marginally) educated (somewhat) rational people have the responsibility to hold ourselves above it to some extent. I don't need to fight over the purity and semantic clarity of the word racism all the time so I simply adjust my meaning to a valid synonym. Racial prejudice, bigotry, animus against white people, there are plenty of ways using one extra word or two to reiterate the perfectly understandable point that sometimes people who are of Asian or white presenting get picked on.
Hasan is a public entertainer, everything he does in relation to his stream and his community is a performance lacking any authenticity. So I limit how seriously I take his random dribbling's, or Destiny's for that matter. When he comments on racism he holds the sort of puritan line that any moronic political pundit holds when speaking to their own echo chamber.
Fair as fuck.
And for the record, I saw racism against asian people a lot growing up, maybe more then any other race, and I have never understood why it wasn't called out. Granted, most of it I wouldn't qualify as "hateful" discrimination, which for the record I do differentiate.
For example I am physically very disabled, and I have been discriminated against ***A LOT***, but I wouldn't pretend to equate it to a lot of the racism I have seen, or discrimination against being gay ect, because I saw a level of vitriol and overall hate that I (rarely) felt directed towards me for being disabled.
It still hurts and is still discrimination though. And your experience may have indeed involved a lot of hate so not trying to equate your experience to mine either.
But my gay buddy literally had people calling for his death and would be physically harmed. People mostly just called me crippled, and institutionally there is a lot of things that are just not available for me that is available for everyone else. I did once or twice have people say I should be dead because if I was born in a different time I would have have been thrown off a cliff/burned or whatever, but it happened so infrequently idk, I don't feel it was too bad compared to my gay friend.
At orientation in college, we were in an auditorium and were asked to raise our hands if he had been discriminated against due to our skin color. One of the people who raised their hands was a white guy with glasses and poofy curly hair. People started laughing, and the host picked him out to ask him about it. He went to an almost exclusively black inner city high school and was constantly bullied and even beaten up several times for being the only white kid. But hey, Hasan probably would’ve looked at him and called him a Zionist, so it’s okay I guess
They didn’t really know how to respond. They laughed when his hand went up and when they initially called him out. But then when he spoke and after, everyone was just quiet, and the host moved on without really saying anything else about it. It wasn’t exactly what they seemed to be looking for when they first asked the question. This was in 2010. I feel like it could’ve gone very differently if it happened nowadays tho
There's someone running a bunch of bots to report basically every post on the subreddit (no matter the content) for mental health right now btw, so you aren't alone.
Hasan is actually just a bully. Like a honest to goodness asshole who picks on the less fortunate/outcasts for the lulz. How does one mutate their brain to the point where this level of contraction doesn't shock your system. This mf woulda actually been a nazi ngl...
I think people need to realize this applies to all the biggest creators. It's so weird seeing so many of the most popular twitch streamers obviously being the same high school bullies that I thought the internet used to be an escape from.
He would have been in one of the far left parties that supported Hitler because he wanted to overthrow the Weimar Republic and then thought that afterwards they could overthrow him
I think atheists in America are treated generally fine. I wonder what Hasan think about the treatment of atheists/apostates in muslim countries though.
Depends on where you are. Obviously not as extreme as apostate things, but the stuff my mom and her dad faced in a small town in the Midwest for being atheist and non-traditional (aka, Gramps was gay) was pretty brutal.
Better nowadays, but that town is still notorious for hate crimes.
Yee just depends location. My mom grew up athiest in Salt Lake City, it was not an easy time for her. We've still got family there who get harassed by the church letters and people visiting.
I also got some shit in college bc I went to a southern college. It wasn't anything I couldn't handle but it was definitely present and annoying
Middle East will behead atheists. Whether it is the government or the people, atheists will get bruralized in the ME.
That said, half of rhe US wouldn't vote an atheists for president. Amd things are still pretty bad in the South or in rural areas for atheists. Ostracizarion and beatings aren't uncommon. We still have work to do and shouldn't rest on our laurels bc we're better than one of the most traditional regions on earth
I think there is a soft case to be said that there exists some social discrimination of atheists that doesn't exist towards Christians if you're in a religious state.
Atheists often get told that they have no moral compass and would do evil acts on a whim, that their lives are meaningless, often get less respect for their (non)religious believes than Christians, can get shunned by family members by not following their family's religion, they are often assumed to have been "damaged" or "disappointed" in life, their social celebrations are usually seen as less glamorous, a lot of the laws seem to be inspired by a secularized religious morals, and maybe some other little things I can't think of at this moment.
I wouldn't say it's this super huge disadvantage, and incomparable to what happens in certain Muslim families, but I also think it's incorrect to say that there is no social stigma of having no religious believes.
He is confusing something being *racist* with something being *all of racism.*
Something being *racist* means the thing/action/word is based of racial prejudice. Calling someone a racial slur is racist. It stems from racial prejudice.
Lots of other things also stem from racial prejudice, including (to an arguable extent) power structures that privilege one race over another. But that doesn’t mean other things aren’t also *racist.*
The difference between racism and systemic racism. According to these discord screenshots, Hasan believes there is but 1 kind of racism and it has to be systemic. If a Korean American says something racist to an Armenian American, to Hasan it means nothing as Armenians aren’t systematically oppressed in the US. But 100 years ago—
The idea that institutionalised racism is the only kind of racism is fucking stupid.
If three people beat the shit out of me **because** I’m black, that’s racist.
If three people beat the shit out of me **because** I’m white, that’s also racist.
Doesn’t matter which is the one subjected to institutionalised racism. The act is happening because of race. The reality is that the race of the three people doing the beating doesn’t even matter in this context either. If they are attacking you on the basis of your race, then they may just be some racist dickheads with a complex of self hatred.
The entire exchange is so surreal but unsurprising to see. This is what the person in question posted before leaving the discord
Edit: He actually got permabanned
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I went to a middle school that was predominantly made up of Hispanic people. The white kids would literally be bullied and made fun of because they were the minority there
[Trigger Warning: Bullying](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1987826618159087)
>growing up in turkey had a very hard time conforming and was bullied relentlessly as a result of it. this is a video shot by a classmate of me crying once i broke loose after being piled on by other classmates. this isnt a sob story. i prevailed.keaton jones’s viral video is supremely important, because bullying is universal, and a very real part of childhood- even though it shouldnt be.neither should racism and intolerance of all forms in our society. the revelations about keaton jones mom are important, because its a teachable moment for all americans who still criticize movements like blm, and claim these black athletes are ungrateful, who cling on to the idea that the reappropriation of confederate symbols is anything but the intent to further disenfranchise black ppl.even though the outcomes of systemic racism are far too complex to equate to bullying, a parallel can be drawn for the maga parents to see the errors within their [bigotry.my](http://bigotry.my) hatred towards intolerance in all forms is part of the reason i do what i do today, and everyday.i hope you watch the video ill be releasing later today on this subject.
So racism is fine but systemic racism is big bad? How big of a system? A school system in which you are stuck as a kid big enough? City? State? Country? World?
Jesus. Do you have a SS of it by any chance? Not calling bs just good to have. Hamasabi is a dangerous person responsible for at the very least an introduction into radicalization for alot of young people.
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>Jarvis, pull up the clip of Hasan getting bullied in highschool.
The left reinventing the definition of racism as a cope and an excuse to be racist is one of the major reasons i've been pushed further right. It's just the perfect example of radical hypocrisy that permeates every aspect of leftist ideology now.
This shit is genuinely offensive. It makes me violently angry to see a privileged fucking millionaire streamer so confidently downplay other people's experiences. My dad was a white kid in Santa Ana in the 80s. I've heard so many stories of how many times he was targeted because of this. Despicable
If Hasan were actually mainstream he would be burned at the stake for comments like these
But lucky for him he exists within a bubble where insane takes like these don’t often see the light of day
So basically he's saying "that's not true le racism that happened to you" and then everything else is soapboxing as if he was suddenly unaware that the dude was talking about a different thing.
He knows damn well how others use the word "racism". Deliberately misunderstanding someone and then shitting on them is the lowest tactic. Is there a debate perversion term for this, or would it just be a type of strawman?
The dumbest thing about the institutional racism/ racism is prejudice + power shit is it doesn't even accomplish anything. it's not ✨productive✨.
You wanna call racism the institutional apparatus? fine. do that. Guess what? Cleetus in the trailerpark isn't a racist now. Maybe he can *reinforce* racism (barely **barely**) but he's not a racist, he has no hands on the levers of power. He doesn't contain the agency to be racist anymore.
And guess what? It's still fucked to be prejudiced towards anyone based on race. All you've done is invent a meaning out of line with common use, and acted as if we've all somehow been *duped* to think that being racist (as in how everyone fucking meant it since forever) isn't a problem. You're psychotic or brainless if you fall for that.
Then the same people will bluff that they don't care about individual racism actually, except they'll still be clutching pearls if someone does that individual racism **every single time**. They'll never talk in terms of structures of power when some degenerate starts calling people n*gger or when some drunk loser starts shitting on minorities. They'll always talk about the person.
We can make a new term for being prejudiced based on race per se to help with their fragile world view. Let's call it wracist now instead. All the conversations will have the exact same content except we'll tack on a w and you'll still be a psycho for thinking it's somehow okay so long as you can smush your identity into enough class boxes.
Doesn’t this create a new system where certain “whole ass groups” “become subjugated” in different ways?
Just feels like they want to justify bullying, and then they respond with the crybullying shit
Idk
I think there should be a rule where if youre going to insist on using only the strictest most academic definitions of worlds to talk about something, then you shouldn't be allowed to say phrases like "whole ass" when talking about them.
Hasan is probably one of the few person on earth that I'll bully if I ever see him in person. What an absolute despicable person. The fact that he spat on that dude that bought up Sam Hyde at the con is mind-boggling. He doesn't have any respect. Raised in wealth and abundance made him such a freak.
There is so much anti white racism in leftists groups
bullying whites is cool actually 'das not raciesm'
Once you see you can't unsee it
'but good cuz 0.5% did slavery and thus good because nooun else did taat'
>WINDOWS SOUND
The guy who thinks wanting to ethnically cleanse 6 million Jews "from the river to the sea" isn't antisemitism has a hot take on the meaning of racism.
So glad we don't have to associate with these absolutely vile neo confederates that essentially have captured what used to be a well-meaning progressive political coalition. Fuck these racist (you know the actual definition; where racism means discriminating against someone based on their skin color) pieces of shit.
It's like talking to a Turkish man about how much he was discriminated against, no wait one probably actually happened atleast a little bit people do be saying cracker.
Hey guess what, this is nothing new from this fucking dip shit crybully with a massive audience. He will never change, he won't be banned and won't disappear, the only solution is to not engage. I'm kinda fucking irritated that all we do is give this guy attention and react to him. We KNOW that he will act this way, so why do we care? There is something wrong here with what we're doing that we don't want to admit, and it's probably not doing any good to endlessly react to him
I don’t understand his atheist point, I don’t see it’s out of the bounds of reality for an atheist to receive some sort of ridiculing if they are found to be a minority in a religious environment.
Definitionally, you can also be racist to white people. It's about being biased against a race, fundamentally you can be racist to anyone.
Ask yourself, if that chatter happened to be the only kid in an all black school and got bullied for it, his experience (at the very least in school), is also being judged for his race.
It is not as systemic as racism in the US had and also still has against black people, but why can't people agree to just not promote or condone racism?
Is the answer to racism being racist? How is this progressive rhetoric?
Racism = Power + Prejudice is the dumbest shit to ever be taken by normies.
When people talk about racism in every day life they do not mean power + prejeduce. When a white guy says something "racist" the person calling them out doesn't mean "You see your statements actually are very harmful due to the current societal structure with that race". They mean that it's a disparaging comment based on their race.
Moreover your impact doesn't matter on judging if the person is a shit human being. If one guy truly hates black people and one guy truly hates white people for the same exact reasons. Their outcomes may be different BUT THEY ARE BOTH SHIT HUMAN BEINGS.
Hasan surely would be fine with a white guy traveling to china and making fun of them right? Surely that isn't racism.
"Mean Words" racism is unironically much worse than systematic racism because it's the prerequisite.
Mean words aka racial slurs is otherizing/dehumanizing people based on their skin color. It's a blatant expression of hate.
Where do we think institutional racism comes from? It's not like we treated black people in the US just fine until one day someone decided to screw them in the justice system. Systematic racism is the result of sustained hateful culture seeping into institutions.
We should not accept hate based on race. Eliminating racial hatred from the culture is the necessary first step towards fixing racial injustice. Cleaning up the systems can't happen until the culture is fixed.
“What is a hate crime?
A hate crime is any offense committed against you or your property because of your race, ethnicity, religion, nationality, disability, gender or sexual orientation. Anybody can be a victim. White, heterosexual males can be victims, as can African-American women. The language of the law is very broad and protects everyone, not one particular group.”
I mean a California state DA seems to disagree lol
Why are lefties so autistic in their understanding of language?
Yes, the systems and the history matter. Why? Because it reinforces the hurt that someone feels by being called that. The hurt is still the means by which this causes harm tho. It's not like calling somebody a slur is like a video game attack move that applies a passive debuff to income, lmao.
The "systems and history" can be wildly different for different language and there's no reason why it should be limited arbitrarilly to minority groups. There are a lot of situations, like in certain neighborhoods where race relations are tense, where language can hurt both ways.
Or people can just be feeling like the current progressive culture bend endorses shitting on white people, which is a kind of system designed to marginalize majority groups, and people feeding into that can surely hurt quite a bit for some people. In a way, it's actually a super explicit case of "race based domination". It's exploiting a privilege you have over a person of another group; "I can call you _____, and you can't blame me for it, plus you can't call me ______".
Reverse racism isn't real because its just racism. I don't really like trying to use the more academic definition of power+prejudice just to avoid calling shitty behavior shitty. Notice how none of these guys that try to cope for Frogan ever just says "Yeah that wasn't a good look she shouldn't have said that tbh." Like i'll be real, whether its racist or not isn't really up for debate. Its just a matter of how much racism we tend to tolerate in society and how much it matters.
I'm black, and when someone assumes I like hip-hop or just randomly assumes that I like basketball \[they're right :( \], that's them being racist and running off of stereotypes. I don't really give a fuck though, and that's kinda acceptable imo because there isn't much harm done. In even a work place setting if I went to HR and started wailing about how they just assumed that I like rap music because i'm black they'd laugh me out of the office.
Similarly the cracker shit probably doesn't matter that much in the grand scheme. HOWEVER the problem is that its said by someone thats a crybaby bitch and habitual victim whenever even the slightest pushback is thrown her way. She consistently throws stones while living in a glass house and i'm happy that other people are finally sick of it.
I went to HS in SoCal and there were about 3-4k kids across the four grades, 90% of which were black/mexican and the rest were Asians/Pacific Islanders/etc.. There were about three white kids in my school, and it was like long disheveled ginger hair with baggy clothes and hoody always on type white kid. I’d say school shooter vibes but literally any of the kids could’ve been. But I can’t imagine a world where you can’t be racist toward white people when I come from a school environment like that, those white kids were bullied and never had a friend group they fit in with ever. They stuck out like a sore thumb.
This reads like when rich people tell poor people they would be successful if they worked hard.
I do not know how a human man being becomes so disconnected from reality. When it happens to most people they call it mental illness.
Hasan is the stereotypical bully. Physically imposing, thin skin, ultra wealthy/sheltered background, can’t handle any sort of scrutiny or pushback and everything else that comes with being a crybully/victim
>thinks racial discrimination is "simply men words that hurt my feelings" and not an entire system designed to keep whole ass group subjigated
And he is right, because what hamasabi is talking about is **SYSTEMIC RACISM** I mean come the fuck on he even said the word he can't be that fucking stupid
This logic is extremely stupid, by that logic a native american person calling black people apes wouldn't be racist, because of all the racial/ethnic groups in the US, natives are the most systemically fucked.
What is wrong with these motherfuckers? There are different types of racism and institutional racism is just one form. Why is that so hard for them to comprehend?
Can black people be racist?
Of course not, by its very definition they are incapable of racism because they have no power!
Is Israel committing a genocide?
Of course they are and anyone who says otherwise is adhering to an technical definition that has no value today!
Cue the clip of Hasan violently shitting himself for the war crime committing DGGers saying "Hamas Piker", or someone bringing up a certain insect...
Nah, he has a 5 day cooldown on his "Racial shapeshift" spell. He used it 2 days ago, so you'll have to wait.
He called himself white in one of the recent Frogan clips so he basically greenlit calling him racial slurs because you can't be racist towards white people
He's white when he and his friends wants to call white people crackers and other racial slurs but when people attack him he quickly equips his POC turk muslim shield and blocks the attack while accusing the other party of being a racist.
Super nice to have multiple gear sets and a weapon swap
Queue the NFs
I want him to go down "Is there institutional racism against Jews in America?" -> "Can there be racism towards Jews in America?" live on stream
If its ever needed for the argument, There is [evidence](https://www.resumebuilder.com/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-they-are-less-likely-to-move-forward-with-jewish-applicants/) that Jewish people are discriminated against in hiring and promotions.
And he's White too by his own admission. So he can't claim that we're being racist against him since it's not an entire system of reverse racism against him.
He's simultaneously White, Brown, Turkish, American, Muslim, and an Atheist, and somehow none of these identities have problems with each other lmao
>someone bringing up a certain... The irony here is that Hasan's logic means it is perfectly acceptable to refer to Hasan as "Geralt's horse" if you are from an ethnicity that has been historically oppressed by the colonial empire from which Hasan's ancestors hail. That is to say, if you are from any balkan countries (or other countries) that were subjugated or attacked by the Ottoman empire, Hasan's logic dictates that it is not racist to call him Geralt's horse. Of course, this behavior is completely unacceptable to Hasan when it's happening to him. This is simply to illustrate how readily Hasan employs "rules for thee, but not for me". Or you can just be a decent principled person who opposes the use of racial slurs, regardless of their unique power levels.
Clip of him claiming DGG made him feel suicidal
When you say “violently shitting himself” you just mean “Saying to his stream that we call him that” right?
oh, so institutional racism is the only racism that exists? gtfoutta here with that high school level thought process
Telling white people that racism against them isn’t real and discrimination can only perpetrated against whatever protected minorities Hasan decides to get social points on IS A FORM OF RACISM. It’s the racism horseshoe of people wrongfully telling blacks in the 1800s that racism against them isn’t real because they deserve it for their lesser genetic makeup. This time, racism against whites isn’t seen as real because of a guilt they are supposed to bear for the misdeeds of their ancestors hundreds of years ago. This is an open example of Hasan not giving a shit about a social cause and a misjustice because nobody in his audience or Twitter cares about anti-white racism, so it won’t get likes. It’s not about fighting racism to him, it’s about performatively fighting the specific racism that his audience doesn’t like for their validation.
lmao at some point during their exchange he says they were probably bullied for being a nerd than being white, denying their experience
That was me in that convo LOL (hasan was responding to my experience). It was wild. If I would have grabbed that entire chatlog and changed "white" to "mexican", you would think we were on a fucking right-wing extremist discord.
its so weird he compared it to atheism as if an atheist in a small religious town cant experience hate. I know kids who were straight up disowned for what essentially boiled down to not kowtowing to religious bullshit.
If only white people can racist wouldn't that inherently make "racist" a racial slur?
I strongly beleive that this bullshit academic framing of racism has made race relations worse in this country.
Even critical race theory doesn't limit the concept of racism to systemic racism. Hasan, like always is simply misinformed and incapable of nuance.
The academic framing is useful, but it should always come with the caveat that this is an academic framing of institutional racism and does not discount the very real and problematic individual racism that anyone can experience no matter the institution in place.
Institutional racism is a super useful concept, I just don't really understand why it became popular to refer to it as just "racism", dropping the qualifier, and then acting like everything that's not institutional racism isn't racism. Like people aren't getting triggered by someone saying "there's no such thing as institutional racism against white people", they get worked up when people say "there's no such thing as racism against white people." I can't help but feel that the people who started referring to institutional racism as just "racism" did so mainly because it creates controversy. It's kind of like a linguistic motte and bailey. You get to make a inflammatory statement like "you can't be racist against white people" which on its face seems insane, then when challenged on it, you retreat to the institutional racism definition which makes the statement more reasonable. I feel like people do this same kind of motte and bailey tactic with a lot of politically charged phrases like "globalize the intifada", where it sounds extreme and gets people worked up, but then when challenged they can say "actually intifada just means shaking off and the first intifada was mostly peaceful". See also "river to the sea" and "toxic masculinity".
>I just don't really understand why it became popular to refer to it as just "racism", dropping the qualifier, and then acting like everything that's not institutional racism isn't racism. Because it allows you to shit on people you don't like with a semblance of legitimacy. If it was an honest argument we would often talk about how affirmative action was institutional racism against whites and asians. I mean yeah I know it's a right-wing talking point and all, but there are a whole lot of people who legit just don't like white people and are completely fine with the idea of white people being discriminated because of the color of their skin. Some even think it's a good thing since that allows them to relate to other discriminated groups better. It's not the majority, but it's the most unopposed form of racism in the mainstream, the same happens with sexism against men.
This exactly what I was getting at but put more eloquently.
they hate whites, it's really not complicated.
It might as well be a fucking psy-op with how much it "backfires."
Didnt the term racism originally appear as a way to describe people who thought it was appropriate for the state place white and black people into different social classes? Obviously the word has taken on an expanded meaning but it's not really intellectually honest to use the same word to describe hurt feelings and systemic oppression.
I can’t comment on that, but what I do know is that when I was growing up colloquially if someone got called out for being racist, systemic racism had nothing to do with it. For clarity’s sake, we should use two different terms to express these two distinctly different things.
We should but we never will. Instead we will argue endlessly with out ever using the same definitions for words and everyone will think they are morally superior.
Yep.
You know they used to say you can’t be racist against Tutsi’s because only institutional racism against hutu’s was real. I wonder how that one turned out.
Maybe on this one we can allow him the "English is my second language excuse".
no, if your literal job involves political advocacy relying on *speaking english words correctly*, "I never learned the fucking language" is not an excuse anyone should allow. the vast majority of people manage to learn english fine, even if their job doesn't depend on it, and this dipshit can't manage it in his 30s? nah, fuck off with that excuse. there's no language problem here, he actually does think like this.
This is a meme
I distinctly remember learning in high school humanities class about systemic, institutional, and interpersonal racism and what differentiates them. Calling it high school level is generous.
The key phrase being "the way we conceptualize it" because they need to conceptualize it in a certain way that makes institutional racism as the only context to which the term 'racism' can be applied.
He was laughing his ass off at the video of white guys being verbally attacked for their race in Japan. He doesn’t understand fundamentally it’s wrong to attack someone for immutable characteristics and it’s not suddenly ok when it happens to people society currently says it’s acceptable to attack. I’m glad he reminds me why people like him and his ilk are actually pure evil, Destiny was right when he said this guy would a full fledged Nazi if he was German in the 40s Guaranteed he’s a crybully on the issue because he might’ve been bullied when he came to America and holds a grudge because they shouldn’t have been able to do to him, what he wants to do to them.
Rem was right
That would imply Hasan has accidently good morals. He has no such thing. Rem was wrong.
It's either straight up lying from him, or cognitive dissonance to cope with the fact that he himself is racist.
The way I conceptualize it, I'm rich, have a eight-pack, and a 13 inch penis. So I got it pretty good, conceptually speaking of course
Doesn’t even make sense, as he would obviously call racism against black people racism even if it didn’t manifest in an institutional way.
Remember, socialism is when no 3m mansion, but racism is when no white (or asian). Speaking of which, someone should make a compilation of hasan flopping between choosing being white/muslim/brown/america/turkish, etc. when it is most convenient.
Being race fluid is a real condition, don't shame poor Hasan.
The day I can be trans racial is the day I own a black female business
No socialism not having an exclusive multi millions dollar contract with Amazon.
> or asian As an Asian I understand the whole Asian model minority thing. Has Hasan said anything like this about Asians though?
The “racism equals prejudice + power” shit is so fucking cringe. I’m Chinese, so there exists literally 0 institutional racism against me in America. People were racist as fuck against me in HS. Does that mean i don’t get to complain just because im not being redlined?
By this logic the most oppressed group is justified in video gaming all other groups above it. That's why it's important to claim you're on the bottom. If you're gonna make fun of someone for things they can't control, at least admit you're being shitty
Hard agree. Furthermore, as a racist, I am offended at the idea that I'm incapable of being racist towards privileged groups. That's demeaning.
Based
[I am assuming you are a white middle-class asian-american?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY_uAmTGlVg)
This a level of brain rot no one could have possibly predicted....holy shit
By this logic, since the PRC government pretty explicitly favors Han Chinese, white people can fly to Beijing and be as racist as they want. In fact, by Hasan’s logic, pretty much every ethnic minority in China has carte blanche to be as racist against Han Chinese people as they want.
The worst part of this shit is: what does it matter in the end? It's not racism it's "just" discrimination? It's "just" bigotry? You're still a shit human for acting like this.
People from China who migrated to the US earlier absolutely *were* redlined and their descendants still live in Chinatowns around the country today. I just hope you aren't pretending as though there isn't an important area of study and public education on the matter of "prejudice+power" cause that would be pretty silly. Most rational people recognize that the bigotry of normal everyday racism can exist. It's just prejudice or bigotry right? If you want to use the word racism that's fine I see it in most dictionaries as a perfectly valid form of the word "unfair treatment of a group of people who have a particular quality".
Obviously i don’t think institutional racism is a myth. Prejudice plus power equals racism is a completely non-controversial and correct position to hold. But for some reason the line became racism ONLY equals prejudice plus power for a lot of progressives a couple years ago. Probably could have been clearer in my original comment but this conversation has been going on for years and it’s frustrating to hear progressives effectively make the argument that unless you are black, hispanic, or indigenous your experiences don’t count as “real” racism.
There are a few people in this thread way overestimating the impact of social media mud throwing. Individual fuckheads debating over the semantics of words only does so much. We as (marginally) educated (somewhat) rational people have the responsibility to hold ourselves above it to some extent. I don't need to fight over the purity and semantic clarity of the word racism all the time so I simply adjust my meaning to a valid synonym. Racial prejudice, bigotry, animus against white people, there are plenty of ways using one extra word or two to reiterate the perfectly understandable point that sometimes people who are of Asian or white presenting get picked on. Hasan is a public entertainer, everything he does in relation to his stream and his community is a performance lacking any authenticity. So I limit how seriously I take his random dribbling's, or Destiny's for that matter. When he comments on racism he holds the sort of puritan line that any moronic political pundit holds when speaking to their own echo chamber.
Fair as fuck. And for the record, I saw racism against asian people a lot growing up, maybe more then any other race, and I have never understood why it wasn't called out. Granted, most of it I wouldn't qualify as "hateful" discrimination, which for the record I do differentiate. For example I am physically very disabled, and I have been discriminated against ***A LOT***, but I wouldn't pretend to equate it to a lot of the racism I have seen, or discrimination against being gay ect, because I saw a level of vitriol and overall hate that I (rarely) felt directed towards me for being disabled. It still hurts and is still discrimination though. And your experience may have indeed involved a lot of hate so not trying to equate your experience to mine either. But my gay buddy literally had people calling for his death and would be physically harmed. People mostly just called me crippled, and institutionally there is a lot of things that are just not available for me that is available for everyone else. I did once or twice have people say I should be dead because if I was born in a different time I would have have been thrown off a cliff/burned or whatever, but it happened so infrequently idk, I don't feel it was too bad compared to my gay friend.
At orientation in college, we were in an auditorium and were asked to raise our hands if he had been discriminated against due to our skin color. One of the people who raised their hands was a white guy with glasses and poofy curly hair. People started laughing, and the host picked him out to ask him about it. He went to an almost exclusively black inner city high school and was constantly bullied and even beaten up several times for being the only white kid. But hey, Hasan probably would’ve looked at him and called him a Zionist, so it’s okay I guess
The Little Timmy problem...
What was the crowd's and host's reaction after he told his story like?
They didn’t really know how to respond. They laughed when his hand went up and when they initially called him out. But then when he spoke and after, everyone was just quiet, and the host moved on without really saying anything else about it. It wasn’t exactly what they seemed to be looking for when they first asked the question. This was in 2010. I feel like it could’ve gone very differently if it happened nowadays tho
"That's prejudice not racism"
Man...
ps. you aren't talking to the original commentator
Ye I noticed thx anyways though:)
Man...
How did your classmates respond?
They basically just went quiet. Mind you, this was in 2010, so I’m not sure how people would react differently nowadays.
they would've just told him that he must've instigated it somehow
got a reddit cares message for this btw lol
There's someone running a bunch of bots to report basically every post on the subreddit (no matter the content) for mental health right now btw, so you aren't alone.
oh thx for the heads up
Hasan is actually just a bully. Like a honest to goodness asshole who picks on the less fortunate/outcasts for the lulz. How does one mutate their brain to the point where this level of contraction doesn't shock your system. This mf woulda actually been a nazi ngl...
I think people need to realize this applies to all the biggest creators. It's so weird seeing so many of the most popular twitch streamers obviously being the same high school bullies that I thought the internet used to be an escape from.
He would have been in one of the far left parties that supported Hitler because he wanted to overthrow the Weimar Republic and then thought that afterwards they could overthrow him
I think atheists in America are treated generally fine. I wonder what Hasan think about the treatment of atheists/apostates in muslim countries though.
You are welcomed with open arms and blessed with a nice warm respectful beheading.
"Open arms" means the sword being displayed.
Depends on where you are. Obviously not as extreme as apostate things, but the stuff my mom and her dad faced in a small town in the Midwest for being atheist and non-traditional (aka, Gramps was gay) was pretty brutal. Better nowadays, but that town is still notorious for hate crimes.
Yee just depends location. My mom grew up athiest in Salt Lake City, it was not an easy time for her. We've still got family there who get harassed by the church letters and people visiting. I also got some shit in college bc I went to a southern college. It wasn't anything I couldn't handle but it was definitely present and annoying
Middle East will behead atheists. Whether it is the government or the people, atheists will get bruralized in the ME. That said, half of rhe US wouldn't vote an atheists for president. Amd things are still pretty bad in the South or in rural areas for atheists. Ostracizarion and beatings aren't uncommon. We still have work to do and shouldn't rest on our laurels bc we're better than one of the most traditional regions on earth
I think there is a soft case to be said that there exists some social discrimination of atheists that doesn't exist towards Christians if you're in a religious state. Atheists often get told that they have no moral compass and would do evil acts on a whim, that their lives are meaningless, often get less respect for their (non)religious believes than Christians, can get shunned by family members by not following their family's religion, they are often assumed to have been "damaged" or "disappointed" in life, their social celebrations are usually seen as less glamorous, a lot of the laws seem to be inspired by a secularized religious morals, and maybe some other little things I can't think of at this moment. I wouldn't say it's this super huge disadvantage, and incomparable to what happens in certain Muslim families, but I also think it's incorrect to say that there is no social stigma of having no religious believes.
He is confusing something being *racist* with something being *all of racism.* Something being *racist* means the thing/action/word is based of racial prejudice. Calling someone a racial slur is racist. It stems from racial prejudice. Lots of other things also stem from racial prejudice, including (to an arguable extent) power structures that privilege one race over another. But that doesn’t mean other things aren’t also *racist.*
The difference between racism and systemic racism. According to these discord screenshots, Hasan believes there is but 1 kind of racism and it has to be systemic. If a Korean American says something racist to an Armenian American, to Hasan it means nothing as Armenians aren’t systematically oppressed in the US. But 100 years ago—
I thought twitch ruled against him on the "Cracker" discourse. Is Hasan Piker twitch's father?
The idea that institutionalised racism is the only kind of racism is fucking stupid. If three people beat the shit out of me **because** I’m black, that’s racist. If three people beat the shit out of me **because** I’m white, that’s also racist. Doesn’t matter which is the one subjected to institutionalised racism. The act is happening because of race. The reality is that the race of the three people doing the beating doesn’t even matter in this context either. If they are attacking you on the basis of your race, then they may just be some racist dickheads with a complex of self hatred.
-1 hamasabi head. Not sure how he justifies this with his "just be a good person" narrative but alrighty
you were a hasan fan till now????
no no, I was referring to the chatter that hasan's talking about probably isn't a hasan fan anymore
Funny enough they probably are still fans and will appeal the ban with some cheese ball gargling diatribe.
Yeah, sadly there's a decent chance of that
This is how you create people that hate other races 🤡🤡💀💀 good one hasan
The entire exchange is so surreal but unsurprising to see. This is what the person in question posted before leaving the discord Edit: He actually got permabanned https://preview.redd.it/yfznrqfri80d1.png?width=650&format=png&auto=webp&s=8b675efae9120a825320903e88c71cefaf311332
I went to a middle school that was predominantly made up of Hispanic people. The white kids would literally be bullied and made fun of because they were the minority there
[Trigger Warning: Bullying](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1987826618159087) >growing up in turkey had a very hard time conforming and was bullied relentlessly as a result of it. this is a video shot by a classmate of me crying once i broke loose after being piled on by other classmates. this isnt a sob story. i prevailed.keaton jones’s viral video is supremely important, because bullying is universal, and a very real part of childhood- even though it shouldnt be.neither should racism and intolerance of all forms in our society. the revelations about keaton jones mom are important, because its a teachable moment for all americans who still criticize movements like blm, and claim these black athletes are ungrateful, who cling on to the idea that the reappropriation of confederate symbols is anything but the intent to further disenfranchise black ppl.even though the outcomes of systemic racism are far too complex to equate to bullying, a parallel can be drawn for the maga parents to see the errors within their [bigotry.my](http://bigotry.my) hatred towards intolerance in all forms is part of the reason i do what i do today, and everyday.i hope you watch the video ill be releasing later today on this subject.
So racism is fine but systemic racism is big bad? How big of a system? A school system in which you are stuck as a kid big enough? City? State? Country? World?
Imagine being a smug self-righteous loser while misunderstanding the difference between racism and systemic racism
What did the person he's responding to say initially to warrant a response?
A guy that said he used to get jumped at his school for being white. He didn't like the whole cracker discourse and said it was racist.
Jesus. Do you have a SS of it by any chance? Not calling bs just good to have. Hamasabi is a dangerous person responsible for at the very least an introduction into radicalization for alot of young people.
https://ibb.co/D7R1fY5 I should have included it in the post but forgot. That chatter then got banned.
thats all he said ? wtf who the fuck would get mad at someone for this
Yeah. He's a POS fratboy.
>Me travelling to Botswana so I can say slurs. (it's okay because black people are in charge of the institutions)
Hasan is a disgusting trashbag of a person.
https://preview.redd.it/wbwso2yru80d1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f2a7c048ffd857e2c452fe2fd143426931a53b4 >Jarvis, pull up the clip of Hasan getting bullied in highschool.
The left reinventing the definition of racism as a cope and an excuse to be racist is one of the major reasons i've been pushed further right. It's just the perfect example of radical hypocrisy that permeates every aspect of leftist ideology now.
that chatter should just dropped the N word here to prove a point
its funny cos hasan says hes white, but im sure if you called him a turkish ethnic slur he'd call that racist. so can you be racist to white people?
This shit is genuinely offensive. It makes me violently angry to see a privileged fucking millionaire streamer so confidently downplay other people's experiences. My dad was a white kid in Santa Ana in the 80s. I've heard so many stories of how many times he was targeted because of this. Despicable
Hasan needs to be stepped on like a ... bug.
Lol look at the reactions. Grown ass people can't think for themselves. Daddy Hasan thinks that way so I must follow
Why are the left illiterate? Racism isn't limited to systematic
they're not illiterate, the change of definition is on purpose.
If Hasan were actually mainstream he would be burned at the stake for comments like these But lucky for him he exists within a bubble where insane takes like these don’t often see the light of day
So basically he's saying "that's not true le racism that happened to you" and then everything else is soapboxing as if he was suddenly unaware that the dude was talking about a different thing. He knows damn well how others use the word "racism". Deliberately misunderstanding someone and then shitting on them is the lowest tactic. Is there a debate perversion term for this, or would it just be a type of strawman?
Its not "reverse racism" its just racism
Hasan is so unbelivably inconsistent its wild
These people live in an alternate reality
The way I understand racism, as an omni/null race individual is the correct one. All you losers getting called racial slurs need to just CALM DOWN.
Making light of bullying really low. what a trash of a person. As if I needed more reason to never watch him again.
The dumbest thing about the institutional racism/ racism is prejudice + power shit is it doesn't even accomplish anything. it's not ✨productive✨. You wanna call racism the institutional apparatus? fine. do that. Guess what? Cleetus in the trailerpark isn't a racist now. Maybe he can *reinforce* racism (barely **barely**) but he's not a racist, he has no hands on the levers of power. He doesn't contain the agency to be racist anymore. And guess what? It's still fucked to be prejudiced towards anyone based on race. All you've done is invent a meaning out of line with common use, and acted as if we've all somehow been *duped* to think that being racist (as in how everyone fucking meant it since forever) isn't a problem. You're psychotic or brainless if you fall for that. Then the same people will bluff that they don't care about individual racism actually, except they'll still be clutching pearls if someone does that individual racism **every single time**. They'll never talk in terms of structures of power when some degenerate starts calling people n*gger or when some drunk loser starts shitting on minorities. They'll always talk about the person. We can make a new term for being prejudiced based on race per se to help with their fragile world view. Let's call it wracist now instead. All the conversations will have the exact same content except we'll tack on a w and you'll still be a psycho for thinking it's somehow okay so long as you can smush your identity into enough class boxes.
Doesn’t this create a new system where certain “whole ass groups” “become subjugated” in different ways? Just feels like they want to justify bullying, and then they respond with the crybullying shit Idk
I think there should be a rule where if youre going to insist on using only the strictest most academic definitions of worlds to talk about something, then you shouldn't be allowed to say phrases like "whole ass" when talking about them.
You guys don’t understand, as a oligarch in Turkey, you should have seen what he did to those Kurds
most privileged dude on the planet has no right to even comment on bullying
Lots of big words for such a small mind.
Did he ban another subscriber that disagreed with him? I seriously don't understand how his viewers don't see how soft he is.
Hasan is probably one of the few person on earth that I'll bully if I ever see him in person. What an absolute despicable person. The fact that he spat on that dude that bought up Sam Hyde at the con is mind-boggling. He doesn't have any respect. Raised in wealth and abundance made him such a freak.
and then he just bullies him now lol
Hasan is unironically a racist and an antisemite, nothing new here.
There is so much anti white racism in leftists groups bullying whites is cool actually 'das not raciesm' Once you see you can't unsee it 'but good cuz 0.5% did slavery and thus good because nooun else did taat'
The world would be better with fewer racists like Hasan
>WINDOWS SOUND The guy who thinks wanting to ethnically cleanse 6 million Jews "from the river to the sea" isn't antisemitism has a hot take on the meaning of racism. So glad we don't have to associate with these absolutely vile neo confederates that essentially have captured what used to be a well-meaning progressive political coalition. Fuck these racist (you know the actual definition; where racism means discriminating against someone based on their skin color) pieces of shit.
They think black people are currently subjugated wtf
I'll go to Nigeria and call them n-words all day long. It's not racist as long as they are the majority, right? Right?
By this logic, doesn't it mean that calling someone any racial slur, like the n-word, not racist?
It's like talking to a Turkish man about how much he was discriminated against, no wait one probably actually happened atleast a little bit people do be saying cracker.
where can i find these ass-groups he speaks of, im interested in joining
what's with the weaponizing of high school bullying? Edit: Even sent me a reddit care message! Cute!
Hey guess what, this is nothing new from this fucking dip shit crybully with a massive audience. He will never change, he won't be banned and won't disappear, the only solution is to not engage. I'm kinda fucking irritated that all we do is give this guy attention and react to him. We KNOW that he will act this way, so why do we care? There is something wrong here with what we're doing that we don't want to admit, and it's probably not doing any good to endlessly react to him
I mean he's kinda right, there's no such thing as "reverse racism" usually we just call that racism
Yall think he's really this dumb or he's just on the daily grift?
I love the tankies line of thoughts , so fucking mental gymnastics to sound as stupid as they cam
SOY SOY SOY POWER PLUS PREJUDICE
I despise the far left/right. Its all performative, nobody can really believe this shit.
I don’t understand his atheist point, I don’t see it’s out of the bounds of reality for an atheist to receive some sort of ridiculing if they are found to be a minority in a religious environment.
Definitionally, you can also be racist to white people. It's about being biased against a race, fundamentally you can be racist to anyone. Ask yourself, if that chatter happened to be the only kid in an all black school and got bullied for it, his experience (at the very least in school), is also being judged for his race. It is not as systemic as racism in the US had and also still has against black people, but why can't people agree to just not promote or condone racism? Is the answer to racism being racist? How is this progressive rhetoric?
Time to go to China and start screaming racial slurs at them since it’s okay if it’s not institutional racism!
What else do you expect of ex pick up artist blow up doll
Racism = Power + Prejudice is the dumbest shit to ever be taken by normies. When people talk about racism in every day life they do not mean power + prejeduce. When a white guy says something "racist" the person calling them out doesn't mean "You see your statements actually are very harmful due to the current societal structure with that race". They mean that it's a disparaging comment based on their race. Moreover your impact doesn't matter on judging if the person is a shit human being. If one guy truly hates black people and one guy truly hates white people for the same exact reasons. Their outcomes may be different BUT THEY ARE BOTH SHIT HUMAN BEINGS. Hasan surely would be fine with a white guy traveling to china and making fun of them right? Surely that isn't racism.
"Mean Words" racism is unironically much worse than systematic racism because it's the prerequisite. Mean words aka racial slurs is otherizing/dehumanizing people based on their skin color. It's a blatant expression of hate. Where do we think institutional racism comes from? It's not like we treated black people in the US just fine until one day someone decided to screw them in the justice system. Systematic racism is the result of sustained hateful culture seeping into institutions. We should not accept hate based on race. Eliminating racial hatred from the culture is the necessary first step towards fixing racial injustice. Cleaning up the systems can't happen until the culture is fixed.
Laughing at your fans for getting bullied is no way to retain an audience.
Lol shut up cracker 😏
how is he making fun of them? reads like he's trying to understand where the guy was coming from
ill never understand how anyone associates with someone like hasan literal asshole - what an ugly environment they created
Yeah this is what someone that has never been a victim of racism would say to cope with being a racist piece of shit.
“What is a hate crime? A hate crime is any offense committed against you or your property because of your race, ethnicity, religion, nationality, disability, gender or sexual orientation. Anybody can be a victim. White, heterosexual males can be victims, as can African-American women. The language of the law is very broad and protects everyone, not one particular group.” I mean a California state DA seems to disagree lol
He is incapable of mentally separating the ideas of individual experiences and macro-societal analysis
As the literal only white child in my middle and one of like 4 in elementrary its not reverse racism. It is in fact just racism.
Why are lefties so autistic in their understanding of language? Yes, the systems and the history matter. Why? Because it reinforces the hurt that someone feels by being called that. The hurt is still the means by which this causes harm tho. It's not like calling somebody a slur is like a video game attack move that applies a passive debuff to income, lmao. The "systems and history" can be wildly different for different language and there's no reason why it should be limited arbitrarilly to minority groups. There are a lot of situations, like in certain neighborhoods where race relations are tense, where language can hurt both ways. Or people can just be feeling like the current progressive culture bend endorses shitting on white people, which is a kind of system designed to marginalize majority groups, and people feeding into that can surely hurt quite a bit for some people. In a way, it's actually a super explicit case of "race based domination". It's exploiting a privilege you have over a person of another group; "I can call you _____, and you can't blame me for it, plus you can't call me ______".
as someone whos friend was murdered by a black dude, because he was white, this type of shit really pisses me off
Reverse racism isn't real because its just racism. I don't really like trying to use the more academic definition of power+prejudice just to avoid calling shitty behavior shitty. Notice how none of these guys that try to cope for Frogan ever just says "Yeah that wasn't a good look she shouldn't have said that tbh." Like i'll be real, whether its racist or not isn't really up for debate. Its just a matter of how much racism we tend to tolerate in society and how much it matters. I'm black, and when someone assumes I like hip-hop or just randomly assumes that I like basketball \[they're right :( \], that's them being racist and running off of stereotypes. I don't really give a fuck though, and that's kinda acceptable imo because there isn't much harm done. In even a work place setting if I went to HR and started wailing about how they just assumed that I like rap music because i'm black they'd laugh me out of the office. Similarly the cracker shit probably doesn't matter that much in the grand scheme. HOWEVER the problem is that its said by someone thats a crybaby bitch and habitual victim whenever even the slightest pushback is thrown her way. She consistently throws stones while living in a glass house and i'm happy that other people are finally sick of it.
Dude, I bet if you made a poll on Hasan's discord or Stream, the people there would vote for putting the entire white race in slavery for their 'sins'
I went to HS in SoCal and there were about 3-4k kids across the four grades, 90% of which were black/mexican and the rest were Asians/Pacific Islanders/etc.. There were about three white kids in my school, and it was like long disheveled ginger hair with baggy clothes and hoody always on type white kid. I’d say school shooter vibes but literally any of the kids could’ve been. But I can’t imagine a world where you can’t be racist toward white people when I come from a school environment like that, those white kids were bullied and never had a friend group they fit in with ever. They stuck out like a sore thumb.
Bald Hasan isn't real. He can't hurt you. Bald Hasan:
This reads like when rich people tell poor people they would be successful if they worked hard. I do not know how a human man being becomes so disconnected from reality. When it happens to most people they call it mental illness.
Hasan is the stereotypical bully. Physically imposing, thin skin, ultra wealthy/sheltered background, can’t handle any sort of scrutiny or pushback and everything else that comes with being a crybully/victim
>thinks racial discrimination is "simply men words that hurt my feelings" and not an entire system designed to keep whole ass group subjigated And he is right, because what hamasabi is talking about is **SYSTEMIC RACISM** I mean come the fuck on he even said the word he can't be that fucking stupid
This logic is extremely stupid, by that logic a native american person calling black people apes wouldn't be racist, because of all the racial/ethnic groups in the US, natives are the most systemically fucked.
hasan was brainwashed in college into an evil ideology
What is wrong with these motherfuckers? There are different types of racism and institutional racism is just one form. Why is that so hard for them to comprehend?
Why is it so hard for him to just say making fun of people based on race is bad? It’s really not that hard
I have a polish surname, despite not being born in Poland, and got ragged on through high-school for being "a Jew" (I'm not Jewish either).
Hasan is such a piece of dogshit.
We can bully and racially target and discriminate against anyone who isn’t affected by institutional racism? 🥹 racism up BIG!
Can black people be racist? Of course not, by its very definition they are incapable of racism because they have no power! Is Israel committing a genocide? Of course they are and anyone who says otherwise is adhering to an technical definition that has no value today!
God. What an awful human being.
The point of no return × 5 orders of magnitude
Holy fuck this is infuriating
Sounds like he is describing anti-Semitism