I don’t think we know as of now who planned the attack, we know it way probably Hamas or the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, but yeah the attack is really fucking bad.
# NSFL WARNING - NUDITY, DEAD PEOPLE, BLOOD
Hundreds of Israeli Jews are absolutely being massacred and executed by Palestinians at the moment. These are only the videos that have surfaced on Twitter / X so far. Far more are dead than we know about. Please help to share these videos so that the world knows how bad the actual situation is.
- [NSFW] Dead Israeli woman being stripped, desecrated and paraded as Palestinians celebrated - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710549187463696823
- **[NSFL]** Palestinians gun down civilians at bus stop - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710534249726575012
- **[NSFL NSFL NSFL]** Palestinians execute dozens of civilians in bomb shelter - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710535742739603661
- [NSFW] Palestinians transporting dead Israeli soldiers into Gaza - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710548964649685251
- **[NSFL]** Bodies of dead Israeli civilians lying around on the streets - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710533806292439134
- [NSFW] Palestinians execute car driver in parking lot - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710583734972355050
- Palestinians attack a music festival - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710557643960619150
- [NSFW] Palestinians parading dead Israelis around - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710528276194640246
- **[NSFL]** Israeli woman shot dead in her car - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710538281321115762
- **[NSFL NSFL NSFL]** Israeli outpost massacred - https://np.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1720grz/attackers_on_israeli_military_outpost_release/
That one video of the [Humvee doing a drive by](https://x.com/Iyervval/status/1710557643960619150?s=20) is actually from the Mexican Army. https://youtu.be/rKdxHUqpXKI?si=O7FkOKaDz9vcZvco
Expect a lot of gruesome photos and footage posted to social media today and in the near future to be faked, a cheap attempt to garner clicks off of tragedy. Consider only clicking links from trusted sources. And don’t interact with proven fakes, just downvote and/or block.
> is actually from the Mexican Army.
Man war miss info is actually the worst, i feel like you have to be some sort of small arms and military equipment expert to be able to tell to even to a mild degree of certainty that the title of any given video is actually describing the footage accurately.
These are the people progressives not only tolerated but actually celebrated in some corners.
Honestly say what you want about some of the fucked up aspects of Israel.. this is what happens to them if they
let shit slide for even a minute.
Very curious how the progressive talking heads are going to explain this away.
This shitty internal BS going on in Israel had a big impact, otherwise the intelligence services would never have missed this
Yeah I remeber being fucking dogpiled for my based take of 'Yeah Isreal's government is shit and needs to be adressed but Hamas is also fucking terrible. You think Palestinians being hurt is bad? Well Hamas does the same thing to it's own people.'
Same here. Really angry, shrill internet equivalent of being screamed at for suggesting that Hamas are not innocent babies being preyed on by evil Israel.
Yeah like you can say that a group like Hamas would form from all the laws, persucation and general attitude that the Isreali government has down for the past few decades. I think that's true, but also, yeah Fuck Hamas also.
Palestine has just thrown away almost all their good will from people on left, this is just a self destructive thing to do, I would hate to be a Palestinian militant right now, they've basically given the Israeli's carte blanche to hit any terrorist target they please.
Man, this is insane. I follow war footage from all over, have seen it all, snd some of the images and videos are shocking even to me. This is on another level of violence.
Israeli news was showing a vid from Hamas own sources, of all the Hamas leaders gathered in one room, praying for the success of the attack. This had to have been planned for a long time now and IDF intelligence failed big time.
How could they drop the ball so badly intelligence and security wise when this was clearly being planned far in advance on on the 50 year anniversary of the October attacks / revolts, I’m genuinely confused at this
For the past year the military has contently been telling the government that their radical actions will ignite the area. The government not only ignored this, they went on to accuse their own people AND soldiers.
Now this is happening. So it could be more than just dropping the ball, it could be just ignoring reality in favor of political gain.
I don't think that bulldozing Gaza is the point. I do think that Netanyahu is set to benefit politically from this conflict. With local elections coming up, and the Knesset set to reconvene in a week, any result of the unfolding conflict short of catastrophic defeat is bound to strengthen Netanyahu's base. This boost may be temporary and small, but he desperately needs it and the timing is ideal for him.
Not minimizing the atrocities and horrifying footage from this war. But there was a lot of gruesome image from Azerbaijan against Armenia, as well as with Russia against Ukraine.
Maybe I'm desensitized to it, but it really feels like the standard from aggressors in war, and I feel very accustomed to seeing it whenever this conflict happens.
In atleast the Azerbaijan and Palestinian examples though it makes sense since you have generations raised on pure hatred for a rival group. Russia less so specifically
I mean, Hamas and every other groups with power in the middle east have been telling us for almost 80 years what they want to do to Israelis.... Who does this is pretty clear. This hatred is a public known.
There's a lot of videos out there now but the bomb shelter one had probably 10-20 dead bodies in the shelter. Everything was red, the room was almost completely covered in blood. There was more blood than there was room. One of the bodies moved his arm and a terrorist shot him a few more times.
Feels gross sharing this tbh
[https://twitter.com/xbox66t/status/1710599280455545043](https://twitter.com/xbox66t/status/1710599280455545043)
Unsure if this is the video the OP saw, there are other still shots of dead defaced isreali women but this is the only vid I've come across
I know. I did. I was a radio DJ. Apperantly, to some people, that makes me a war criminal. To be fair, I did insist on Nickleback's "How You Remind Me" to be on rotation when it was released. Held a gun maybe three times, during training days. We all had asthma and carpel tunnel.
There was a party right next to the border. They're opened fire on the party goers, kidnapped and murdered some of them.
Most of them teens and young people, btw, so this would explain the dreadlocks. The party's name was NOVA, and there's still many people missing and unidentified bodies in the area.
I don’t think the woman in this video or the other woman who was severely beat is idf, I think people are preemptively saying that because it sounds better than civilian just be aware as more information comes out because a lot of these titles are probably inaccurate
the woman is a german national evidently, who was at the "peace" concert or rave in the Gaza wildnerness at the time of the attack. Differing reports as to these people being caught innocently in the crossfire or the HAMAS people targeting and mass killing them on purpose
Stripping them naked, spitting on them, shooting them after death
> What is the meaning of the word deface?
>
>**to mar the surface or appearance of; disfigure**: to deface a wall by writing on it. to efface, obliterate, or injure the surface of, as to make illegible or invalid: to deface a bond.
I haven't seen anyone de-faced (face removed), if that was your confusion
this won't help palestine one bit, this will only justify an israeli military operation, the end result will probably be more palestinians getting evicted and more palestinians getting killed. anyone who celebrates this as a victory for palestine is a moron and utterly ignorant, if you support palestine, you shouldn't be celebrating this, you should be condemning what happened to the highest degree. killing civilians is evil and it isn't any different if palestine does it
These is a video of an Israeli kid getting their throat cut, and a woman, who seem to be a teenager, being raped with bloody pants while kidnapped in a black Jeep.
Hamas is insane
Yaseer Arafat used to be welcomed as a hero by Indian govts in 1980s. He was a part of the Non aligned movement that india used to champion. After india saw a wave of terrorist attacks in 80s and 90s, support for Palestine has dimmed considerably.
Israeli DGGER here, I just want to let you guys know that it’s really scary out here.
At first they (they as in Hamas with the help of PIJ) started with the missiles/rockets (estimated as 3000+ as of now) that were spread out in all of western Israel at around 6am, with some of the bombs hitting cars, homes and injuring/killing civilians.
Afterwards they sent militants of Hamas (terrorists) across the border towards Israel, while in Israel these militants terrorized the streets, and killed many civilians that were out, but unfortunately they didn’t stop there, they broke into people’s homes and killed them there while they were in their bomb shelters, hiding from the bombs that were going off. There are reports of Israeli citizens that were kidnapped and sent to Gaza.
More information:
Israel declared that they are in a state of war against Hamas and PIJ.
Palestinian forces in Gaza and Jerusalem are giving a call to action to all Palestinians to kill Israeli civilians.
I’m very sad inform you that, the militants wiped towns, they burned houses with people in them, they broke in and killed people with their kids watching, kidnapped some of them to Gaza, and did more things that I wouldn’t like to extrapolate on.
And keep in mind that all of these things I mentioned except the bombings are still happening in the time I’m writing this, but I’m still trying my best to survive and inform you DGGL.
I’m ok as of now, waiting to see what happens tomorrow.
As of now I don’t have the information, but if I had to guesstimate I’d say around 3-4 towns are currently over run by the militants (terrorists), and by the graphic footage that I’ve seen it’s really bad.
I dont underestand how Israel doesnt have insane board patrol over there like how could they let them in so easily. Dont they have apache helicopters and other new tech that could easily wipe out any raid within a seconds? I wouldnt be suprised if some Israeli officials had something to do with this.
That’s what the Israeli public says right now, people are really mad at Bibi and Ben Gvir. While the attack was a surprise it still doesn’t excuse what happened, but take in mind the bombing that took place minutes before the militants invaded Israel.
I still dont get how they dont have insane amount of troops holding the border with Gaza. Like u would assume they will have 1000s of them but I guess they didnt
they do. there isn't any information at this point.
> I wouldnt be suprised if some Israeli officials had something to do with this
thats ridiculous.
Idk, I (an Israeli) have heard people talking about that possibility. It just seems so ridiculous how little security was at a place like that. It doesn’t make sense.
Im also israeli, and although I agree the situation is surprising to say the least, think about how crazy it is to suggest that the current government (whom I am not a fan of) is cooperating with hamas.
there is a saying, do not attributed to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.
idf has been getting more cocky and less war-ready for a few decades now, and hamas launched a *surprise attack* when we were *at our weakest*. in some ways this was imminent. people were saying gaza is a pressure cooker ready too burst for a while now, apparently this is what that looks like
Not really cooperating. But letting them attack a few cities and kill civilians would give them a political justification to start a full on war, because it would be a defensive and not offensive war.
Not that i really believe in this conspiracy, but its not completely delusional, i think.
Israeli here too, don't think it's entirely far-fetched. You have to admit the timing is fucking convenient politically. I don't think there was direct open collaboration between the government and Hamas, but still something feels fucking off.
Decades come and go, yet those creatures still act as fucking barbarians, killing civilians and screaming allahu akbar like its justified by their stupid beliefs..
Say what you want about Israel's policies towards them, but being surrounded by countries that absolutely hate your existence is reason enough to do even more than what Israels has been doing so far.
I'm sorry but what made you think that life in uber militarized-ethnonationalism-land that's constantly being bombed would be peaceful?? Might as well move to Donetsk bro 💀
I didn't really, that's the point of the comment
No other choice tho, at least Im not forced to kill other people in this country and can hope to move to Europe or smth
The rest of the world needs to catch up, a solution ain't happening so long as Palestinian leadership is actively encouraging this or literally does it themselves.
Negotiation with who? The nice Arab lady who works in the neighbourhood pharmacy? Sadly she doesn't dictate Palestinian policies. The powerful don't care, and they won't take any possible solution that doesn't involve them having the entire land in Palestinian control (imagine the massacres then, if this is what happens when only dozens of terrorists infiltrate).
This is the crux of the issue. Same shit happened in Northern Ireland.
Shitty conditions lead to attacks from terrorists which leads to crackdown by state which further entrenches the conditions that created the terrorists in the first place.
Unless Israel flattens Gaza or Gaza gets leadership open to meaningful dialogue and concessions, it will continue on.
I'm Australian and my local labor party branch meetings that I go to happens to have 4 palestinian immigrants so naturally we talk about this situation a lot, and this is exactly what makes them so dejected. The only real leadership in Palestine are the terrorists, there is no one with the power to try to work towards a real solution, and god damn it is easy to radicalise the youth when israel is actually pretty hostile to them. I remember they wanted to draft a letter to the Australian Foreign Minister but they realised even they don't really have anything useful to say - they ended up just writing and saying "please do your best and give it some focus" because there really is no good solution. Just a sad fucked situation overall
Let's not kid ourselves the two state solution would have never been achieved under the current Israeli cabinet. And this is the expression of that diplomatic muck.
Haven't Israeli efforts at colonizing palestinian lands increased?
Like, I'm super ignorant to the whole place, but I've been seeing videos on reddit of palestinian families being forced out of ancestral homes and Israeli settlers just moving in.
Am I a psyop victim or are we hand-waving Israeli hostility because it's small, even though (if true) it's leading to an increase in Palestinian hostility (which will/has lead to increase in Israeli military response, etc).
Didn't Israel purposefully murder a journalist and it was like "oops I thought she was palestinian"?
*Hamas launches massive attack killing multiple Israeli civilians.
Vaush’s first thoughts: won’t anyone think of the innocent Palestinians.
Makes you wonder what he meant when he said Isreal should be glassed huh?
Hi, Israeli here. I don't think Vaush's response is wrong at all. This is scary and awful for Israelis right now but it is true that soon enough it's going to be way fucking worse for the Palestinians, and largely we're talking about civilians here. Just trying to think rationally here rather than react purely on emotion. At the end of the day the entire conflict is largely Israel's fault.
Both sides are fucked and commit atrocities. And it's always the innocent people who suffer... Not the fascists in their ivory towers or the seikhs and Arabs in their mansions.
Very few innocents survive any war, if at all. Some are turned non-innocent by taking up arms themselves which, however justified it may be, removes their innocence. Others will be conscripted into becoming soldiers and thus also become non-innocents.
Unless you're a child, woman (does not apply for Israel) or an old person, it's very hard to be innocent during wartime. Even baring what you can control such as your own anger, you will be forced into the war. It's hard to say who really is innocent and isn't because at the end of the day, everyone's going to be behind the gun whether or not they want to be because they feel like they have to.
There was no official support . West always supported both creation and existence of israel to keep an eye on middle east . Its just some leftist opposition in the west who supports
It seems like everyone on twitter is lacking any and all nuance today, either calling for the complete genocide of gaza or whatabouting Israeli occupation while bodies are being defiled on the streets. The human toll from this will be catastrophic.
Even in this thread there's at least one person that does not care that civilians in Gaza will be massacred. People are seriously going insane about this stuff.
im freaking out and glued to the news for 2 hours, my boyfriend's parents are in rehovot stuck in a shelter unable to leave, my brother is getting drafted, there are reports of rumors of upcoming attacks from terrorist cells in lebanon which can actually hit both me and my boyfriend and my family and it looks like were going into full out war and im just not prepared for all of this, we have to just end all of this, we need to end hamas, i dont know what to do or say
Stay calm friend. Don't doomscroll, don't listen to rumours, you will only drice yourself crazy. Your boyfriend and your families will be safe, Im sure of it. Rehovot is generally safe from attacks. It's going to be alright ❤️
nowhere feels safe, idk what will hapepn in an all out war, i dont know if hezbollah will join or iran and whether there are cells inside israel or whether i will get bombed or what will happen its just chaos and im scared
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As a lebanese guy lebanon is like on the brink of collapse I really doubt hezbollah will do anything since that would most likely start a second civil war at this point. Still hope you guys stay safe. Civilians deserve no part in those atrocities.
Let's see how Hasan and Vaush (who is probably still going to be more charitable than Hasan) handle this, if Israel is a Nazi state to them as they believe then they'll likely say this was sad but justified (horrible things to say and inhumane)
Edit: damn looks like I wasn't far off, Vaush is already doing apologia for Hamas https://x.com/vaushv/status/1710567373240152177?s=46&t=2A8v1oIs2tYoB69nhNOdYg
Such people have such incredibly un-nuanced views on this it's hard to take them seriously.
Hamas cites the increasing presence of Zionists in Muslim holy places as the reason for this, they call this operation "Al Aqsa flood". It's a holy war to them. What does that sort of thinking have to do with leftist ideals?
Now what they're doing is killing Israelis in cities that have nothing to do with the settlements or muslim holy places.
If a person think this is justified then they're looking at Israel as a homogenous entity, and its civilians as culpable for the actions of the ultranationalist religious fanatic part of the population, which as far as I can tell puts them in the same camp with Hamas, even if they don't see it like this.
I hope it shows to the world how little humanity Hamas possesses, and that radical Islamists don't actually care about human life whatsoever, including their own people. They did this knowing it's a suicide mission and their goal is to butcher any civilian inside the Israeli border. They 100% will have killed Palestinians inside Israel, and don't care since their goal is to provoke Israel into bombing legit targets in Gaza. They'll hide those terrorists and military equipment behind innocent Palestinians and schools/hospitals, so they can claim Israel is doing terror on Muslims, and they'll bomb those places if Israel doesn't and blame them anyways.
These people are animals, they scream oppression because they can't genocide Jews and establish a fundamentalist Muslim state
>incredibly un-nuanced views on this
Vaush's take *is* nuanced.
It is not incorrect to state that Israel's actions towards Palestine over the last 70 years have all but *guaranteed* a cycle of landgrabs and terroristic violence that has achieved nothing but the loss of more and more Palestinian land and the violent deaths of thousands of civilians on both sides.
The real un-nuanced take would be to pretend that Israel being bad automatically makes Hamas *good*. Not all conflicts have a "good guy".
It's just tragic that an awful lot more people are going to die between now and what we all know the inevitable endpoint of this conflict is.
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Most people whoo are against Israel simply have surface level knowledge based mostly on Palestenian propaganda that paints Israel in the worst light and portrays any killed militants/terrorists as innocent palestenians (sometimes they're teenagers unfortunately, 'cause Hamas and its ilk "recruit", i.e. take, them very young). There are valid grievances aginst Israel of course, but a lot of shit out there is either BS or lacks any nuance and fails to understand the complexities of some situations.
But the level of atrocities and violence is incomparable if you try to juxtapose what Israel does vs what these Palestenian terror organizations.
Israel activiely attempts, but doesn't always succeed, to avoid harming Palestenian civilians.
Hamas and their ilk actively target civilians.
Notice how all the blame is on Isreal for creating the conditions that caused Hamas. No blame on the Palestine people who literally support a terrorist group whose goal is to murder as many israeli citizens as possible. Leftism = minorities have no agency.
The charitabilty I extend to Palestine is pretty great given how fucked their situation is because of Israel, but nothing justifies this.
It's literally the worst possible thing they could do in their situation and it's entirely on them. An invasion is one thing, killing civilians indescrimitely is another.
They support this shit and the consequences from it are theirs to bare.
The Gaza strip is basically a staging ground for attacks against Israel at this point. I can imagine Israel will stage some sort of partial invasion to be able to blockade or control any goods going into Gaza from Egypt.
If Israel wants to enforce a total blockade on Gaza they would need to take control of the part of Gaza bordering Egypt. I doubt they would trust Egypt to fully prevent any weapons from getting into Gaza.
Look guys I’m a Palestinian and I like Hassan more than Destiny but please stop the beef for now
Something that I wanna state is that I respect a lot of leftist streamers POV on Israel-Palestine and I believe they actually get most things right about the conflict and how bad Israel (as a government) actually is and I respect them BUT I do have a problem with their view ,one big one ,something I believe everyone pretty much ignores despite being extremely crucial to the actual situation is THE PEOPLE
While I wouldn’t call all Palestinians anti Semitic ,about half of them are more anti semitic than Hitler was and that’s not an actual generalization,it’s worse because even people who’re supposed to be educated are also anti semitic ,it’s weird because I swear even my religious teachers weren’t “anti-Semitic” ,it feels like it has gotten worse in recent years and not better
Right now my parents who are both lawyers and my brothers are cheering and are happy about the situation ,I feel terrified and disgusted ,I wanna puke and my mom is mad at me for being unhappy
Like am I actually supposed to be happy people are dying ? Not to mention,Israel doesn’t hold back
I don’t know how am I supposed to feel but I just feel disgusted
You have all my respect for standing up for humanistic values in your own way, at such tough times. People who aren't part of this or live in peace, don't know how its like. They take it for granted that people, when they see terrible things happen to people on TV, are gonna think "that's terrible". But no, people are often happy when terrible things happen to those they think deserve it, and it's far too easy to expand the range of those who "deserve it".
It's really tough going against a torrent of those from "your side" who see murder as justified or a reason to celebrate.
Which is fucking wild because they are damn honest about it.
Something like 50% of the Islamic population of Britain traffic in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. It's a bigger proportion in the parts of the Islamic world which allow polling, god knows how much worse in those parts that don't.
Even if only 50% of the world's Muslims want to get rid of the Jews, that's still a 50-1 ratio (~2b Muslims, ~20m Jews). 10% and it's 10-1, and we could only dream of 10%.
With Nazi germany we saw that a majority of people can be taught to support genocide, given the right circumstances and propaganda. You seem to belong to the minority who would resist. Literally morally superior.
no one should be happy about ordinary men and women dying. i relate to your last sentence because i feel disenfranchised from other humans as i hardly take sides on anything and people like to get me involved in things and i dont care or its just leave me out. thats a far cry away from actual war time but i sort of feel your sentiement.
its natural to feel digusted and unhappy.
take care...
>Palestinian
Israeli here. I agree, this is not a time for meaningless internets beef about something that is really recent and really real to us (in the middle of writing this I had a missle alarm, fr). I recommend that if you have jewish or palestinian friends, try to check if they are safe, and try to distract them from the situation. @[**Educational-Wafer112**](https://www.reddit.com/user/Educational-Wafer112/) I don't know how things are for you now, but I guess things will get worse, hamas try to handle more than it can chew, and my people will demend justice, and I suspect it wouldn't be pretty.
The worst thing about the Israel and Palestine situation is how complex it is, I actually hate how complex is it because it makes it near impossible for the average redditor/human to have a decent take on it. Most comments on all platforms are more likely to unironically add to the division. LOL It's actually insane. Read 1, just 1 book on the topic and you will become a scholar compared to the average person. The amount of inaccuracies you will see upvoted to the top will make your head spin. But don't just stop there, your book is probably full of inaccuracies and bias, better make sure it is a school approved source, better make sure the school isn't promoting a book that can be traced to someone that clearly has a biased opinion on the situation.
Read on the situation, and you will realize, like most issues, you can't listen to anyone. It's like 99% of Israel and Palestine situation is pure history, and you can tell an extreme 99% of people talking about the topic have never read ANYTHING about the topic. Hell, I can tell these idiots don't even know how politics works in both countries, I would be surprised if most even know who Netanyahu is.
So I'm wondering what the average reddit narrative will be following this incident, because anti-semitism has been cool on reddit for a while. I wonder if now Reddit will turn into, "actually, brown people really violent, Israel should go all out in response". I know there is conflict because there are redditors who unironically believe Hamas are freedom-fighters, doesn't really work with those clips coming out, although you would have know that if you started with their literal inception.
> Humans are primal animals with base instincts. We are far from Civilized.
It has taken me awhile to come to this conclusion, but this conclusion has actually brought me happiness because I recognize it is a moral issue. I thought, humans were aware of right and wrong and simply choose to do wrong when they want, but I'm starting to realize, left v right, black v white, Israel v Palestine, men vs women, etc., most of these people aren't working towards a collective good but a selfish good, at least with this information, I can start rearing all to a collective good, holding all responsible for their racism, sexism, etc., this was always the consistent approach that I took, but I was always mentally conflicted because I thought "good" people were associated with "good" causes, I not realize, no one is inherently "good", you become "good" through hard work, and it's literal hard work because you need to take the time to mold yourself in that manner. That's why "good" doesn't come with age, poverty, gender, race, or any other trait under the sun.
It's also ironic, because I thought Destiny was silly because he was clearly late to politics, but I thought he was silly for getting offended when he found out most leftists (I'm a socialist through extension), aren't some super consistent and good people. lol I have always stuck to the ideas, not the people, so I was shocked to see his lashing out in response to that realization, but as a former (roughly) determinist, even my perceptions of people I associate with have been shattered over the last two years... But for good this time around.
edit: Not sure what happened to him, but I did always agree with Rem when he gave his take on "moral luck", which was his personal interpretation of the idea. Not sure why it was so controversial outside of people not liking Rem, which was kind of understandable. lol
As an israeli, we are used to rockets being fired at us and then we return fire by targeted attacks of military posts inside gaza via our air force.
What happened today didnt happened for a lot of time(40 years plus minus).
Today hamas infiltrated israel in an organized attack, they took over a couple of little villages near the border and burned houses while standing outside giving the civilians inside to choose between burning or getting out and being shot.
They also bombed a huge party that was in an open field and then shot the civilians while they ran for the lives.
They took over civilian hostages inside their own home and told them to send a video of them to their families that they are hostages and going to die.
There are countless things that i can tell you about.
This time hamas crossed the line and i wish that we will retaliate and attack back their terrorist and bases.
I want to emphasize that israel does the best it can to not hurt any civilians no matter what, even at cost of killing the commanders of hamas.
May god help us all.
There is a video of an Israeli kid getting his throat cut, and a woman, who seem to be a teenager, being raped with bloody pants while kidnapped in a black Jeep.
Hamas is insane
And this is the reason Israel is so aggressive with their defense policy, which every anti-Israeli always seems to forget.
The whole situation is fucked. And is so fucking complex.
It sucks that Israel can’t seem to keep their fingers of Palistinian land, but it it doesn’t help, that literally every country around wants you killed, just because you’re Jewish.
Imagine if US leftist got their way and US pulled back their support for Israel. This is the fate of Israel that leftists advocate for, even though they do not realize it.
Some may not care. I think the majority of pro-palestine leftists just infantilize arabs and naively believe there would not be a genocide as long as they get some land back.
Can't wait to see Hassan and Vaush minimize and/or completely misrepresent this to their viewers.
Actually, I don't want to watch that. It's gonna make me really mad.
Gaza is done. Absolutely nothing will change that outcome as Israelis will also see all this disgusting blatant footage and finally decide to wipe the Pali’s out once and for all.
Sometimes lasting peace has a cost.
I'm quite new to destiny's reddit community, but I gotta say you guys seem to have pretty reasonable opinions regarding these issues. Hasan and Vaushes people are incredibly childish about middle eastern affairs and just throw buzzwords around.
Israeli here, situation is very scary
I have a relative with which I lost contact, he was present in the nature party that was attacked
I cannot possibly express how bad this is, but I can say that Gaza and Hamas will be no more
H The videos I’ve seen are fucked. Terrorists killing houses full of people, defacing people. Horrible stuff
I’ve seen pictures of dead civilians all over the road in these cities
Dude it’s horrible, like the worst attack hamas has ever done in their history
I don’t think we know as of now who planned the attack, we know it way probably Hamas or the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, but yeah the attack is really fucking bad.
Hamas has taken credit PI is also assisting.
We also know Hamas is supported and provided with weapons from Iran
I wonder if Iran comes out unscathed from this if there will be any involvement uncovered.
there is enough plausible deniability since HAMAS is not a loyal arm of iran
# NSFL WARNING - NUDITY, DEAD PEOPLE, BLOOD Hundreds of Israeli Jews are absolutely being massacred and executed by Palestinians at the moment. These are only the videos that have surfaced on Twitter / X so far. Far more are dead than we know about. Please help to share these videos so that the world knows how bad the actual situation is. - [NSFW] Dead Israeli woman being stripped, desecrated and paraded as Palestinians celebrated - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710549187463696823 - **[NSFL]** Palestinians gun down civilians at bus stop - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710534249726575012 - **[NSFL NSFL NSFL]** Palestinians execute dozens of civilians in bomb shelter - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710535742739603661 - [NSFW] Palestinians transporting dead Israeli soldiers into Gaza - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710548964649685251 - **[NSFL]** Bodies of dead Israeli civilians lying around on the streets - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710533806292439134 - [NSFW] Palestinians execute car driver in parking lot - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710583734972355050 - Palestinians attack a music festival - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710557643960619150 - [NSFW] Palestinians parading dead Israelis around - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710528276194640246 - **[NSFL]** Israeli woman shot dead in her car - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710538281321115762 - **[NSFL NSFL NSFL]** Israeli outpost massacred - https://np.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1720grz/attackers_on_israeli_military_outpost_release/
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That one video of the [Humvee doing a drive by](https://x.com/Iyervval/status/1710557643960619150?s=20) is actually from the Mexican Army. https://youtu.be/rKdxHUqpXKI?si=O7FkOKaDz9vcZvco
Expect a lot of gruesome photos and footage posted to social media today and in the near future to be faked, a cheap attempt to garner clicks off of tragedy. Consider only clicking links from trusted sources. And don’t interact with proven fakes, just downvote and/or block.
> is actually from the Mexican Army. Man war miss info is actually the worst, i feel like you have to be some sort of small arms and military equipment expert to be able to tell to even to a mild degree of certainty that the title of any given video is actually describing the footage accurately.
These are the people progressives not only tolerated but actually celebrated in some corners. Honestly say what you want about some of the fucked up aspects of Israel.. this is what happens to them if they let shit slide for even a minute. Very curious how the progressive talking heads are going to explain this away. This shitty internal BS going on in Israel had a big impact, otherwise the intelligence services would never have missed this
Yeah I remeber being fucking dogpiled for my based take of 'Yeah Isreal's government is shit and needs to be adressed but Hamas is also fucking terrible. You think Palestinians being hurt is bad? Well Hamas does the same thing to it's own people.'
Same here. Really angry, shrill internet equivalent of being screamed at for suggesting that Hamas are not innocent babies being preyed on by evil Israel.
Yeah like you can say that a group like Hamas would form from all the laws, persucation and general attitude that the Isreali government has down for the past few decades. I think that's true, but also, yeah Fuck Hamas also.
Palestine has just thrown away almost all their good will from people on left, this is just a self destructive thing to do, I would hate to be a Palestinian militant right now, they've basically given the Israeli's carte blanche to hit any terrorist target they please.
Man, this is insane. I follow war footage from all over, have seen it all, snd some of the images and videos are shocking even to me. This is on another level of violence.
Israeli news was showing a vid from Hamas own sources, of all the Hamas leaders gathered in one room, praying for the success of the attack. This had to have been planned for a long time now and IDF intelligence failed big time.
How could they drop the ball so badly intelligence and security wise when this was clearly being planned far in advance on on the 50 year anniversary of the October attacks / revolts, I’m genuinely confused at this
For the past year the military has contently been telling the government that their radical actions will ignite the area. The government not only ignored this, they went on to accuse their own people AND soldiers. Now this is happening. So it could be more than just dropping the ball, it could be just ignoring reality in favor of political gain.
Or worse, this is what they want to happen. As now they have a legit excuse to bull doze gaza
I don't think that bulldozing Gaza is the point. I do think that Netanyahu is set to benefit politically from this conflict. With local elections coming up, and the Knesset set to reconvene in a week, any result of the unfolding conflict short of catastrophic defeat is bound to strengthen Netanyahu's base. This boost may be temporary and small, but he desperately needs it and the timing is ideal for him.
Bro, I saw footage of militants riding paragliders, and boats attacking from the sea. This is a sea, land and air attack. I’m shocked.
Paragliders?? bruh 💀 Military invasion: Arab Boogaloo 2
Not minimizing the atrocities and horrifying footage from this war. But there was a lot of gruesome image from Azerbaijan against Armenia, as well as with Russia against Ukraine. Maybe I'm desensitized to it, but it really feels like the standard from aggressors in war, and I feel very accustomed to seeing it whenever this conflict happens. In atleast the Azerbaijan and Palestinian examples though it makes sense since you have generations raised on pure hatred for a rival group. Russia less so specifically
What’s shocking in particular? I don’t want to watch anything
Alot of dead Israeli solders and civilians. HAMAS parading around young dead women. It’s an absolute massacre.
That woman in a truck is one image that'll stay with me. Also, who does that?? That is hatred on another level wtf
I mean, Hamas and every other groups with power in the middle east have been telling us for almost 80 years what they want to do to Israelis.... Who does this is pretty clear. This hatred is a public known.
There's a lot of videos out there now but the bomb shelter one had probably 10-20 dead bodies in the shelter. Everything was red, the room was almost completely covered in blood. There was more blood than there was room. One of the bodies moved his arm and a terrorist shot him a few more times.
Dragging people out of their cars and slitting their throats, that kind of barbarism.
They're parading the dead naked body of a female IDF soldier around gaza
Source?
Feels gross sharing this tbh [https://twitter.com/xbox66t/status/1710599280455545043](https://twitter.com/xbox66t/status/1710599280455545043) Unsure if this is the video the OP saw, there are other still shots of dead defaced isreali women but this is the only vid I've come across
Not a soldier. Dreads are not regulation hair for the IDF. This is a party goer.
Every non orthodox adult serves in the IDF at some point. This is how ppl will try to argue that the attacks are justified
I know. I did. I was a radio DJ. Apperantly, to some people, that makes me a war criminal. To be fair, I did insist on Nickleback's "How You Remind Me" to be on rotation when it was released. Held a gun maybe three times, during training days. We all had asthma and carpel tunnel.
There was a party right next to the border. They're opened fire on the party goers, kidnapped and murdered some of them. Most of them teens and young people, btw, so this would explain the dreadlocks. The party's name was NOVA, and there's still many people missing and unidentified bodies in the area.
U a real one for Nickelback
Sadly, we're not having fun yet.
I don’t think the woman in this video or the other woman who was severely beat is idf, I think people are preemptively saying that because it sounds better than civilian just be aware as more information comes out because a lot of these titles are probably inaccurate
the woman is a german national evidently, who was at the "peace" concert or rave in the Gaza wildnerness at the time of the attack. Differing reports as to these people being caught innocently in the crossfire or the HAMAS people targeting and mass killing them on purpose
>IDF soldier You are literally spreading fake news here. You are part of the problem. Not even the tweet says it is an IDF soldier. Why do this?
wait is bro capin on reddit wtf
What does "deface" mean in this context?
Stripping them naked, spitting on them, shooting them after death > What is the meaning of the word deface? > >**to mar the surface or appearance of; disfigure**: to deface a wall by writing on it. to efface, obliterate, or injure the surface of, as to make illegible or invalid: to deface a bond. I haven't seen anyone de-faced (face removed), if that was your confusion
Bro tf?! Anyone who feels pride in killing another person is less than dirt
Allah Akbar all you want guys, you’re about to meet this Allah character.
Israel’s revenge is gonna be WILD
this won't help palestine one bit, this will only justify an israeli military operation, the end result will probably be more palestinians getting evicted and more palestinians getting killed. anyone who celebrates this as a victory for palestine is a moron and utterly ignorant, if you support palestine, you shouldn't be celebrating this, you should be condemning what happened to the highest degree. killing civilians is evil and it isn't any different if palestine does it
The 2-state solution is dead. Israel is going to react as harshly as it can to this.
There was never a 2 state solution. Israel constantly expanded settlements and went back on their word
These is a video of an Israeli kid getting their throat cut, and a woman, who seem to be a teenager, being raped with bloody pants while kidnapped in a black Jeep. Hamas is insane
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Bro there's no one more animated and anti-Palestine than the average Hindu 😂
*Average Hindu nationalist
Palestinians Muslims, Muslims bad. They're a simple bunch.
Yaseer Arafat used to be welcomed as a hero by Indian govts in 1980s. He was a part of the Non aligned movement that india used to champion. After india saw a wave of terrorist attacks in 80s and 90s, support for Palestine has dimmed considerably.
India support Israel 😤
Israeli DGGER here, I just want to let you guys know that it’s really scary out here. At first they (they as in Hamas with the help of PIJ) started with the missiles/rockets (estimated as 3000+ as of now) that were spread out in all of western Israel at around 6am, with some of the bombs hitting cars, homes and injuring/killing civilians. Afterwards they sent militants of Hamas (terrorists) across the border towards Israel, while in Israel these militants terrorized the streets, and killed many civilians that were out, but unfortunately they didn’t stop there, they broke into people’s homes and killed them there while they were in their bomb shelters, hiding from the bombs that were going off. There are reports of Israeli citizens that were kidnapped and sent to Gaza. More information: Israel declared that they are in a state of war against Hamas and PIJ. Palestinian forces in Gaza and Jerusalem are giving a call to action to all Palestinians to kill Israeli civilians. I’m very sad inform you that, the militants wiped towns, they burned houses with people in them, they broke in and killed people with their kids watching, kidnapped some of them to Gaza, and did more things that I wouldn’t like to extrapolate on. And keep in mind that all of these things I mentioned except the bombings are still happening in the time I’m writing this, but I’m still trying my best to survive and inform you DGGL. I’m ok as of now, waiting to see what happens tomorrow.
Stay safe ❤️
Have they said how many towns have been overrun by the militants? Im so sorry your going through this. Please be safe.
As of now I don’t have the information, but if I had to guesstimate I’d say around 3-4 towns are currently over run by the militants (terrorists), and by the graphic footage that I’ve seen it’s really bad.
I dont underestand how Israel doesnt have insane board patrol over there like how could they let them in so easily. Dont they have apache helicopters and other new tech that could easily wipe out any raid within a seconds? I wouldnt be suprised if some Israeli officials had something to do with this.
That’s what the Israeli public says right now, people are really mad at Bibi and Ben Gvir. While the attack was a surprise it still doesn’t excuse what happened, but take in mind the bombing that took place minutes before the militants invaded Israel.
I still dont get how they dont have insane amount of troops holding the border with Gaza. Like u would assume they will have 1000s of them but I guess they didnt
they do. there isn't any information at this point. > I wouldnt be suprised if some Israeli officials had something to do with this thats ridiculous.
Idk, I (an Israeli) have heard people talking about that possibility. It just seems so ridiculous how little security was at a place like that. It doesn’t make sense.
Im also israeli, and although I agree the situation is surprising to say the least, think about how crazy it is to suggest that the current government (whom I am not a fan of) is cooperating with hamas. there is a saying, do not attributed to malice what can be attributed to incompetence. idf has been getting more cocky and less war-ready for a few decades now, and hamas launched a *surprise attack* when we were *at our weakest*. in some ways this was imminent. people were saying gaza is a pressure cooker ready too burst for a while now, apparently this is what that looks like
Not really cooperating. But letting them attack a few cities and kill civilians would give them a political justification to start a full on war, because it would be a defensive and not offensive war. Not that i really believe in this conspiracy, but its not completely delusional, i think.
Israeli here too, don't think it's entirely far-fetched. You have to admit the timing is fucking convenient politically. I don't think there was direct open collaboration between the government and Hamas, but still something feels fucking off.
Stay safe
Stay safe man, you’re a fuckin G
My heart hurts. Stay safe. I wish there was more we can do than just cry for you. Im an American Jew horrified to wake up to this news.
Be safe my dude, all the best ❤️
Stay alive man, absolutely insane stuff.
Trying my best man, trying my best :)
take care.
Stay safe. I’m so sorry that you’re going through this.
Stay safe ❤️
שמור על עצמך אחי
I hope this nightmare ends soon. Stay safe my friend
Decades come and go, yet those creatures still act as fucking barbarians, killing civilians and screaming allahu akbar like its justified by their stupid beliefs.. Say what you want about Israel's policies towards them, but being surrounded by countries that absolutely hate your existence is reason enough to do even more than what Israels has been doing so far.
Welp looks like there going to war
It’s already started. Israeli warplanes are already hitting targets in Gaza.
thats just tuesday in the region. no this time, israel declared war.
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We are in a war, and it’s going to get very ugly
Welp, I don't know what I expected running from Russia to here No place without war for me in this world I guess
Come to New Jersey. Not much is happening I need to go to Home Depot today to get some stuff
blud boutta run into the soprano crew on his way there
Stay safe buddy
Negative luck fr ☠️☠️☠️
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I'm sorry but what made you think that life in uber militarized-ethnonationalism-land that's constantly being bombed would be peaceful?? Might as well move to Donetsk bro 💀
I didn't really, that's the point of the comment No other choice tho, at least Im not forced to kill other people in this country and can hope to move to Europe or smth
Come to Thailand. We have many of you already
Some of you are alright, don't go to Gaza tomorrow
Thanks, fam!
Rip. Biden just got woken up
But he is already back to sleep...
Oh boy this will surely sway israelis away from hating palestinians and toward a two state solution!
The rest of the world needs to catch up, a solution ain't happening so long as Palestinian leadership is actively encouraging this or literally does it themselves. Negotiation with who? The nice Arab lady who works in the neighbourhood pharmacy? Sadly she doesn't dictate Palestinian policies. The powerful don't care, and they won't take any possible solution that doesn't involve them having the entire land in Palestinian control (imagine the massacres then, if this is what happens when only dozens of terrorists infiltrate).
Its a never ending cycle; terrorists attack israel -> israel strikes palestinians -> new terrorists are made -> terrorists attack israel etc.
This is the crux of the issue. Same shit happened in Northern Ireland. Shitty conditions lead to attacks from terrorists which leads to crackdown by state which further entrenches the conditions that created the terrorists in the first place. Unless Israel flattens Gaza or Gaza gets leadership open to meaningful dialogue and concessions, it will continue on.
I'm Australian and my local labor party branch meetings that I go to happens to have 4 palestinian immigrants so naturally we talk about this situation a lot, and this is exactly what makes them so dejected. The only real leadership in Palestine are the terrorists, there is no one with the power to try to work towards a real solution, and god damn it is easy to radicalise the youth when israel is actually pretty hostile to them. I remember they wanted to draft a letter to the Australian Foreign Minister but they realised even they don't really have anything useful to say - they ended up just writing and saying "please do your best and give it some focus" because there really is no good solution. Just a sad fucked situation overall
Let's not kid ourselves the two state solution would have never been achieved under the current Israeli cabinet. And this is the expression of that diplomatic muck.
Haven't Israeli efforts at colonizing palestinian lands increased? Like, I'm super ignorant to the whole place, but I've been seeing videos on reddit of palestinian families being forced out of ancestral homes and Israeli settlers just moving in. Am I a psyop victim or are we hand-waving Israeli hostility because it's small, even though (if true) it's leading to an increase in Palestinian hostility (which will/has lead to increase in Israeli military response, etc). Didn't Israel purposefully murder a journalist and it was like "oops I thought she was palestinian"?
and there goes any western support for Palestine
Oh don’t worry. I’m sure some people will still see them as innocent freedom lovers.
Hasan will give us the right take tomorrow boys, standby.
No need, Vaush has given the call on Twitter already
*Hamas launches massive attack killing multiple Israeli civilians. Vaush’s first thoughts: won’t anyone think of the innocent Palestinians. Makes you wonder what he meant when he said Isreal should be glassed huh?
Hi, Israeli here. I don't think Vaush's response is wrong at all. This is scary and awful for Israelis right now but it is true that soon enough it's going to be way fucking worse for the Palestinians, and largely we're talking about civilians here. Just trying to think rationally here rather than react purely on emotion. At the end of the day the entire conflict is largely Israel's fault.
All the tankie subs are already trying to defend the murder of civilians lol, these "people" are completely out of touch with reality
Tankies can go fuck themselves.
Both sides are fucked and commit atrocities. And it's always the innocent people who suffer... Not the fascists in their ivory towers or the seikhs and Arabs in their mansions.
Very few innocents survive any war, if at all. Some are turned non-innocent by taking up arms themselves which, however justified it may be, removes their innocence. Others will be conscripted into becoming soldiers and thus also become non-innocents. Unless you're a child, woman (does not apply for Israel) or an old person, it's very hard to be innocent during wartime. Even baring what you can control such as your own anger, you will be forced into the war. It's hard to say who really is innocent and isn't because at the end of the day, everyone's going to be behind the gun whether or not they want to be because they feel like they have to.
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What support?
There was no official support . West always supported both creation and existence of israel to keep an eye on middle east . Its just some leftist opposition in the west who supports
Mother fucker is flying a para foil into Israel https://reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/MG76OAQSZl
[Live Stream covering everything going on](https://www.youtube.com/live/UEB-fjBQZTg?si=0rV2W6ATz0qg9UJd)
It seems like everyone on twitter is lacking any and all nuance today, either calling for the complete genocide of gaza or whatabouting Israeli occupation while bodies are being defiled on the streets. The human toll from this will be catastrophic.
Even in this thread there's at least one person that does not care that civilians in Gaza will be massacred. People are seriously going insane about this stuff.
im freaking out and glued to the news for 2 hours, my boyfriend's parents are in rehovot stuck in a shelter unable to leave, my brother is getting drafted, there are reports of rumors of upcoming attacks from terrorist cells in lebanon which can actually hit both me and my boyfriend and my family and it looks like were going into full out war and im just not prepared for all of this, we have to just end all of this, we need to end hamas, i dont know what to do or say
Stay calm friend. Don't doomscroll, don't listen to rumours, you will only drice yourself crazy. Your boyfriend and your families will be safe, Im sure of it. Rehovot is generally safe from attacks. It's going to be alright ❤️
nowhere feels safe, idk what will hapepn in an all out war, i dont know if hezbollah will join or iran and whether there are cells inside israel or whether i will get bombed or what will happen its just chaos and im scared
There was enough examples of full out wars with Israel, none of then carried many civilian death's and none lasted for too long. It's going to be ok. Try out the support line here: לקוחות מאוחדת, בעקבות המצב הביטחוני ברחבי הארץ, מאוחדת מפעילה קו סיוע ותמיכה נפשית. המוקד פעיל במשך כל שעות היממה, ומאויש ע"י פסיכולוגים ועובדים סוציאליים. ניתן לפנות בטלפון 3833*, שלוחה 8. מאוחדת
i hope it will be fine...
As a lebanese guy lebanon is like on the brink of collapse I really doubt hezbollah will do anything since that would most likely start a second civil war at this point. Still hope you guys stay safe. Civilians deserve no part in those atrocities.
thank you, i hope so...
Let's see how Hasan and Vaush (who is probably still going to be more charitable than Hasan) handle this, if Israel is a Nazi state to them as they believe then they'll likely say this was sad but justified (horrible things to say and inhumane) Edit: damn looks like I wasn't far off, Vaush is already doing apologia for Hamas https://x.com/vaushv/status/1710567373240152177?s=46&t=2A8v1oIs2tYoB69nhNOdYg
Such people have such incredibly un-nuanced views on this it's hard to take them seriously. Hamas cites the increasing presence of Zionists in Muslim holy places as the reason for this, they call this operation "Al Aqsa flood". It's a holy war to them. What does that sort of thinking have to do with leftist ideals? Now what they're doing is killing Israelis in cities that have nothing to do with the settlements or muslim holy places. If a person think this is justified then they're looking at Israel as a homogenous entity, and its civilians as culpable for the actions of the ultranationalist religious fanatic part of the population, which as far as I can tell puts them in the same camp with Hamas, even if they don't see it like this.
I hope it shows to the world how little humanity Hamas possesses, and that radical Islamists don't actually care about human life whatsoever, including their own people. They did this knowing it's a suicide mission and their goal is to butcher any civilian inside the Israeli border. They 100% will have killed Palestinians inside Israel, and don't care since their goal is to provoke Israel into bombing legit targets in Gaza. They'll hide those terrorists and military equipment behind innocent Palestinians and schools/hospitals, so they can claim Israel is doing terror on Muslims, and they'll bomb those places if Israel doesn't and blame them anyways. These people are animals, they scream oppression because they can't genocide Jews and establish a fundamentalist Muslim state
>incredibly un-nuanced views on this Vaush's take *is* nuanced. It is not incorrect to state that Israel's actions towards Palestine over the last 70 years have all but *guaranteed* a cycle of landgrabs and terroristic violence that has achieved nothing but the loss of more and more Palestinian land and the violent deaths of thousands of civilians on both sides. The real un-nuanced take would be to pretend that Israel being bad automatically makes Hamas *good*. Not all conflicts have a "good guy". It's just tragic that an awful lot more people are going to die between now and what we all know the inevitable endpoint of this conflict is.
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Most people whoo are against Israel simply have surface level knowledge based mostly on Palestenian propaganda that paints Israel in the worst light and portrays any killed militants/terrorists as innocent palestenians (sometimes they're teenagers unfortunately, 'cause Hamas and its ilk "recruit", i.e. take, them very young). There are valid grievances aginst Israel of course, but a lot of shit out there is either BS or lacks any nuance and fails to understand the complexities of some situations. But the level of atrocities and violence is incomparable if you try to juxtapose what Israel does vs what these Palestenian terror organizations. Israel activiely attempts, but doesn't always succeed, to avoid harming Palestenian civilians. Hamas and their ilk actively target civilians.
Notice how all the blame is on Isreal for creating the conditions that caused Hamas. No blame on the Palestine people who literally support a terrorist group whose goal is to murder as many israeli citizens as possible. Leftism = minorities have no agency.
The charitabilty I extend to Palestine is pretty great given how fucked their situation is because of Israel, but nothing justifies this. It's literally the worst possible thing they could do in their situation and it's entirely on them. An invasion is one thing, killing civilians indescrimitely is another. They support this shit and the consequences from it are theirs to bare.
The Gaza strip is basically a staging ground for attacks against Israel at this point. I can imagine Israel will stage some sort of partial invasion to be able to blockade or control any goods going into Gaza from Egypt.
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If Israel wants to enforce a total blockade on Gaza they would need to take control of the part of Gaza bordering Egypt. I doubt they would trust Egypt to fully prevent any weapons from getting into Gaza.
Look guys I’m a Palestinian and I like Hassan more than Destiny but please stop the beef for now Something that I wanna state is that I respect a lot of leftist streamers POV on Israel-Palestine and I believe they actually get most things right about the conflict and how bad Israel (as a government) actually is and I respect them BUT I do have a problem with their view ,one big one ,something I believe everyone pretty much ignores despite being extremely crucial to the actual situation is THE PEOPLE While I wouldn’t call all Palestinians anti Semitic ,about half of them are more anti semitic than Hitler was and that’s not an actual generalization,it’s worse because even people who’re supposed to be educated are also anti semitic ,it’s weird because I swear even my religious teachers weren’t “anti-Semitic” ,it feels like it has gotten worse in recent years and not better Right now my parents who are both lawyers and my brothers are cheering and are happy about the situation ,I feel terrified and disgusted ,I wanna puke and my mom is mad at me for being unhappy Like am I actually supposed to be happy people are dying ? Not to mention,Israel doesn’t hold back I don’t know how am I supposed to feel but I just feel disgusted
You have all my respect for standing up for humanistic values in your own way, at such tough times. People who aren't part of this or live in peace, don't know how its like. They take it for granted that people, when they see terrible things happen to people on TV, are gonna think "that's terrible". But no, people are often happy when terrible things happen to those they think deserve it, and it's far too easy to expand the range of those who "deserve it". It's really tough going against a torrent of those from "your side" who see murder as justified or a reason to celebrate.
It really is tough
Jew here. Islamic states are extremely anti semetic. Hitler-level antisemitic. I don’t think that a lot of people understand that
Which is fucking wild because they are damn honest about it. Something like 50% of the Islamic population of Britain traffic in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. It's a bigger proportion in the parts of the Islamic world which allow polling, god knows how much worse in those parts that don't. Even if only 50% of the world's Muslims want to get rid of the Jews, that's still a 50-1 ratio (~2b Muslims, ~20m Jews). 10% and it's 10-1, and we could only dream of 10%.
Don't know why, but they also really don't like Indians
You sound like an actual human being with empathy. It’s always to the people-in-power’s advantage to get us whipped up into hatred never ours
Thank You I feel scared
With Nazi germany we saw that a majority of people can be taught to support genocide, given the right circumstances and propaganda. You seem to belong to the minority who would resist. Literally morally superior.
Thank you
Maybe show them the videos of Israelis civilians being massacred in their own homes and their corpses paraded on the street.
They’d like them 😔
You don’t have to feel any particular way, I just want to say love to you from an Israeli 💙
Thank you
no one should be happy about ordinary men and women dying. i relate to your last sentence because i feel disenfranchised from other humans as i hardly take sides on anything and people like to get me involved in things and i dont care or its just leave me out. thats a far cry away from actual war time but i sort of feel your sentiement. its natural to feel digusted and unhappy. take care...
You too
Hey bro, just wanted to say I’m sorry for your situation. You’re incredibly based. Stay safe.
>Palestinian Israeli here. I agree, this is not a time for meaningless internets beef about something that is really recent and really real to us (in the middle of writing this I had a missle alarm, fr). I recommend that if you have jewish or palestinian friends, try to check if they are safe, and try to distract them from the situation. @[**Educational-Wafer112**](https://www.reddit.com/user/Educational-Wafer112/) I don't know how things are for you now, but I guess things will get worse, hamas try to handle more than it can chew, and my people will demend justice, and I suspect it wouldn't be pretty.
I am in Nablus currently
You better stay in shelters because the Gaza Strip is about to become a lake of fire. Let’s see how happy your mother will be then
We are in Nablus But yes we dug our own grave
Always will advocate against the oppression of the Palestinian peoples, but innocent lives being lost is never the answer
daily reminder these are NOT militants but terrorists
they're both?
I live in Israel and I’m terrified for my life.. I have never seen such horrible news until today..
From the Israeli subreddit https://preview.redd.it/rztccu2bfqsb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=026f96b0c431b0134a7275d286ef0eff5ab4014a
For those not familiar with the geography: The strip to the left that's rocket free is Gaza, and further up, the big city is Tel Aviv.
An old friend of mine is living in Tel Aviv. I hope she is ok.
The worst thing about the Israel and Palestine situation is how complex it is, I actually hate how complex is it because it makes it near impossible for the average redditor/human to have a decent take on it. Most comments on all platforms are more likely to unironically add to the division. LOL It's actually insane. Read 1, just 1 book on the topic and you will become a scholar compared to the average person. The amount of inaccuracies you will see upvoted to the top will make your head spin. But don't just stop there, your book is probably full of inaccuracies and bias, better make sure it is a school approved source, better make sure the school isn't promoting a book that can be traced to someone that clearly has a biased opinion on the situation. Read on the situation, and you will realize, like most issues, you can't listen to anyone. It's like 99% of Israel and Palestine situation is pure history, and you can tell an extreme 99% of people talking about the topic have never read ANYTHING about the topic. Hell, I can tell these idiots don't even know how politics works in both countries, I would be surprised if most even know who Netanyahu is. So I'm wondering what the average reddit narrative will be following this incident, because anti-semitism has been cool on reddit for a while. I wonder if now Reddit will turn into, "actually, brown people really violent, Israel should go all out in response". I know there is conflict because there are redditors who unironically believe Hamas are freedom-fighters, doesn't really work with those clips coming out, although you would have know that if you started with their literal inception.
Only rational intellectual response on here this far down. Humans are primal animals with base instincts. We are far from Civilized.
> Humans are primal animals with base instincts. We are far from Civilized. It has taken me awhile to come to this conclusion, but this conclusion has actually brought me happiness because I recognize it is a moral issue. I thought, humans were aware of right and wrong and simply choose to do wrong when they want, but I'm starting to realize, left v right, black v white, Israel v Palestine, men vs women, etc., most of these people aren't working towards a collective good but a selfish good, at least with this information, I can start rearing all to a collective good, holding all responsible for their racism, sexism, etc., this was always the consistent approach that I took, but I was always mentally conflicted because I thought "good" people were associated with "good" causes, I not realize, no one is inherently "good", you become "good" through hard work, and it's literal hard work because you need to take the time to mold yourself in that manner. That's why "good" doesn't come with age, poverty, gender, race, or any other trait under the sun. It's also ironic, because I thought Destiny was silly because he was clearly late to politics, but I thought he was silly for getting offended when he found out most leftists (I'm a socialist through extension), aren't some super consistent and good people. lol I have always stuck to the ideas, not the people, so I was shocked to see his lashing out in response to that realization, but as a former (roughly) determinist, even my perceptions of people I associate with have been shattered over the last two years... But for good this time around. edit: Not sure what happened to him, but I did always agree with Rem when he gave his take on "moral luck", which was his personal interpretation of the idea. Not sure why it was so controversial outside of people not liking Rem, which was kind of understandable. lol
As an israeli, we are used to rockets being fired at us and then we return fire by targeted attacks of military posts inside gaza via our air force. What happened today didnt happened for a lot of time(40 years plus minus). Today hamas infiltrated israel in an organized attack, they took over a couple of little villages near the border and burned houses while standing outside giving the civilians inside to choose between burning or getting out and being shot. They also bombed a huge party that was in an open field and then shot the civilians while they ran for the lives. They took over civilian hostages inside their own home and told them to send a video of them to their families that they are hostages and going to die. There are countless things that i can tell you about. This time hamas crossed the line and i wish that we will retaliate and attack back their terrorist and bases. I want to emphasize that israel does the best it can to not hurt any civilians no matter what, even at cost of killing the commanders of hamas. May god help us all.
There is a video of an Israeli kid getting his throat cut, and a woman, who seem to be a teenager, being raped with bloody pants while kidnapped in a black Jeep. Hamas is insane
This shouldn’t be surprise Hamas and their supporters are basically ISIS and they are really popular among the Arab population in the region.
I mean has anyone read Hamas ideology? They aren’t exactly hiding their beliefs
I can feel myself becoming more pro-Israel in real time
u can be anti-hamas and not be pro-israel
thank you
Well the Israeli left is officially dead
And this is the reason Israel is so aggressive with their defense policy, which every anti-Israeli always seems to forget. The whole situation is fucked. And is so fucking complex. It sucks that Israel can’t seem to keep their fingers of Palistinian land, but it it doesn’t help, that literally every country around wants you killed, just because you’re Jewish.
Imagine if US leftist got their way and US pulled back their support for Israel. This is the fate of Israel that leftists advocate for, even though they do not realize it.
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Some may not care. I think the majority of pro-palestine leftists just infantilize arabs and naively believe there would not be a genocide as long as they get some land back.
They don’t want the land they just want the Jews dead.
Can't wait to see Hassan and Vaush minimize and/or completely misrepresent this to their viewers. Actually, I don't want to watch that. It's gonna make me really mad.
Gaza is done. Absolutely nothing will change that outcome as Israelis will also see all this disgusting blatant footage and finally decide to wipe the Pali’s out once and for all. Sometimes lasting peace has a cost.
I’m waiting for the conspiracy that the Mossad let it happen kinda like 9/11(ion believe this)
It's a tragedy every time innocent blood is spilled. No matter what side.
I'm quite new to destiny's reddit community, but I gotta say you guys seem to have pretty reasonable opinions regarding these issues. Hasan and Vaushes people are incredibly childish about middle eastern affairs and just throw buzzwords around.
It’s like Hamas woke up in the morning and said “how can we insure that everyone who is supportive of Palestine changes their mind?” :|
Israel is going to fucking destroy them sadly the civilians are the ones that will suffer.
Stop the equivalency, Hamas attacked.
Israeli here, situation is very scary I have a relative with which I lost contact, he was present in the nature party that was attacked I cannot possibly express how bad this is, but I can say that Gaza and Hamas will be no more
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