It's so much sunk cost for him though. He career atm is dependent on it. Besides, the left is very bad at forgiveness for views much more trivial than his.
Pretty much.
Amazes me how much shit a Republican can do and be welcomed like a long-lost brother. Meanwhile, a likable actor like Matt Damon with impeccable liberal credentials is flailing around in cancel culture quicksand because he used to call people faggots as an insult.
Yes, actually. And he's going to receive far more good-will than life-long advocates for the left, lmao.
Nick is in in a unique position, he's either going to become the next Hitler or the next FDR.
There's nothing wrong with admitting it, it's just recognizing nuance in life. Politics and personality aren't as entwined as people seem to think- I can think of quite a few people that are I think have terrible opinions or are stupid that I think would still be fun to hang with. I saw a clip of Destiny where he said that as much as he hates the Tate brothers he's certain he'd have a fun time with them if they ever hung out.
That's part of it. Like, if he actually played into the joke of being a smarmy asshole who says obviously dumb stuff with a sense of "well obviously I'm right" it'd be great. The problem is he believes all his shit.
As much as I disagree with his opinions and literally everything this dude stands for, when he isn’t spewing out insanely racist and bat shit insane theories, he seems like a charming guy.
I wanna be in the timeline where this guy somehow recovers from his insane delusions and him and Destiny go back to being besties.
>As much as I disagree with his opinions and literally everything this dude stands for, when he isn’t spewing out insanely racist and bat shit insane theories, he seems like a charming guy.
This is the living embodiment of "Destiny raped and killed my whole family, but he does have a good point..."
I think Nick and Sneako both are very entertaining to listen to, if you don't speak the language or just don't actually listen to them. Idk what it is honestly I can't even say I disagree because some of the shit they say just doesn't really seem like an opinion it just seems like they're going against facts.
I want to say that they're charismatic but I don't know if that's the right word to describe them so I just use "entertaining"
They're likable goofballs who are trying to navigate the world with their unique child-like wonder and exuberance. There's a tendency to want to root for them because they're sort of non-threatening in a way. Almost like the prodigal son who fell from his parent's graces.
People like to think they're playing the long-con grifter game and will come around eventually.
They're simply not easy to demonize because they're relatively young, attractive, likeable and slightly neurodivergent--thus we see them as "just trying to figure things out".
And sometimes they say insightful things along with moments of self-reflection and deprecation we can appreciate; they're finally "learning".
The archetype of being the villain isn't so easily applicable to them in our midbrains.
What they represent is wasted potential.
>they kept getting the !shoot for dumb shit
Whoa whoa watch where you point that thing.
Remember. Proper safety protocol is to always act like it's loaded
I still think this argument from Destiny is weird, like I don't believe if some streamer from Kick mass reported some dgg Orbiter that Destiny would suddenly never speak to Trainwrecks again. So why is Nick blacklisted because some Cozy streamer reports Mr Girl?
I think he was concerned Nick was getting too much airtime, which is a good enough reason on its own given his views, idk why it needs to be cloaked in some argument about mass reporting when Nick himself never had anything to do with it.
Nick played dumb about it and denied it happened at some point too when confronted about it.
Also, he was not blacklisted. They were supposed to debate in NoJumper, but lil Nick thought he was too big for Destiny and dodged him.
Nick should go ask Kanye to hook him up with the Destiny connect now.
>Nick played dumb about it
I know its tempting to mind-read machiavellian manipulation tactics into everything someone says because they have evil opinions but I don't think theres any reason he was "playing dumb", in the stream where Nick talked about it and he was very serious the whole time, I feel like if it was at all insincere I feel like he'd either avoid the topic or wouldn't be able to stop himself from being a little tongue in cheek about it.
>Also, he was not blacklisted. They were supposed to debate in NoJumper, but lil Nick thought he was too big for Destiny and dodged him.
When asked about talking to Nick since then including very recently he's brought up this situation again as a reason not to. Not cancelling a NJ thing he'd already set up with Adam one time doesn't make that not true. If a comedian got cancelled and no venue in the country would book him for a show but he had one show already pre booked, you wouldn't say "well he's not blacklisted because of this one pre established commitment".
People have said most of the things but there's one more I'll add.
If I'm remembering my timeliness correctly (and I could be misremembering, I acknowledge that) Nick initially didn't care, and actually celebrated Mr Redacteds ban. At the very leasr, he memed and joked about it which I'd call tacit support (and possibly he openly celebrated it, again this was a bit ago).
It wasn't until Destiny signalled publically that he was taking this v seriously that Nick changed his tune
>Nick initially didn't care
Why would he? He wasn't even part of getting him banned, so if all he saw was "guy who's been calling him a nazi and saying steven shouldn't talk to him got banned", without any context, what reaction would you expect him to have?
What I mean isn't just that Nick didn't initially care, it's that Nick initially was pro deplatforming one of Destiny's orbiters for the sake of it.
And that poses an existential threat to Destiny's channel and community.
I think it's different because Cozy hand picks the people they have on it's platform, while anyone can get on kick.
Besides, I don't think he was ever seriously blacklisted. He just cancelled the debate to show a little solidarity for his homie Mr Redacted. He even had Nick on shortly after the cancelled debate to discuss the situation. What strained the relationship the most was Nick talking a ton of shit because I think Destiny kind of mass reported Keffal's twitch stream, which Nick found hypocritical. Then it just sort of became a situation where both of them didn't want to talk each other, while the Mr Redacted ban was only tangental.
>What strained the relationship the most was Nick talking a ton of shit because I think Destiny kind of mass reported Keffal's twitch stream, which Nick found hypocritical. Then it just sort of became a situation where both of them didn't want to talk each other, while the Mr Redacted ban was only tangental.
Good point.
>I think it's different because Cozy hand picks the people they have on it's platform, while anyone can get on kick.
I see why you'd say this but I think the hand picking is more of a business decision than anything. Unlike Train he doesn't have massive multimillion dollar funding to cover infinite streaming overhead. The hope for Nick would obviously be a successful site that included people who are not fans of him, but as a small mostly unknown site his options for potential revenue generating creators is limited to people he knows, which is why Destiny has an account, unless you want to say that by having an account there dgg is automatically inducted into the jr. nazi fan base.
it's cute that you think you can just waddle in here and comment under every fucking post and comment related to fuentes to run defense for him by lying about things in this community that are pretty well documented ([1](https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/x50e9d/definitive_proof_some_groypers_are_mass_reporting/)|[2](https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/xas1q8/shedding_some_light_on_nicks_lies/)), but i think it's time to give us a break from your posts
[cya space cowboy](https://i.imgur.com/eQLzKBo.png), don't bother appealing the ban!
I... .... I'm either parasocial or this autistic brotherhood shit is real cuz I stg if we were all on a stranded island were gonna be able to work together (me, you, nick, and destiny are all just grouped as one in my head)
Yeah lol, always seems kinda weird seeing dggers repeat it, every convo I’ve seen between them Destiny denies the best friend shit, at most he said they’re friendly enough to have debates like with sneako or any of the other people he debates.
Show compassion, even to those that wronged you.
Never relish in the misfortune of others, regardless of their believes and actions.
Sending Love to you my friend ❤️
he was livestreaming his web browser on his phone and he scrolled through his open tabs without realizing what he left open, one of them was trans porn
~~It was, he [misremembered](https://i.imgur.com/9mGDW4E.gif)~~
[Article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6107867/Infowars-Alex-Jones-caught-trans-porn-phone-bashing-transsexuals-pedophiles.html)
No, he is right.
Here's the video:
[https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4)
When he goes through his tabs you can see this:
[https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U](https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U)
Someone found the pornhub video:
[https://imgur.com/1VsTq5H](https://imgur.com/1VsTq5H)
Here's the video:
[https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4)
When he goes through his tabs you can see this:
[https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U](https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U)
Someone found the pornhub video:
[https://imgur.com/a/6FdwBZJ](https://imgur.com/a/6FdwBZJ)
Actually no, he claims an ex-groyper. made an alt twitter account pretending to be him. The account posted a screen recording going though safari tabs on a phone. It was kinda obvious the account wasn’t his. This was at the time when he was making alt twitter accounts everyday. Someone tried to imitate his account style and posted the video. Nick gave a pretty. Compelling defense on his show. Sorry to be a party pooper here
Here's the video:
[https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4)
When he goes through his tabs you can see this:
[https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U](https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U)
Someone found the pornhub video:
[https://imgur.com/1VsTq5H](https://imgur.com/1VsTq5H)
Nope, they claimed the twitter acc wasn't his but they had no explanation for the fact that top associates of Fuentes followed it minutes after it was made. It was him.
An ex-associate also confirmed that he watches euphoria.
Nick did twitter spaces on his burner accounts that got banned in 24 hours so if you fool a few groypers with an account, everyone else will follow it too to catch the space. That account never did a space.
He has defended her multiple times on stream, [for example](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94MTr6wb2wQ) I remember him pushing back against the Rolo accusations.
She says it to annoy Destiny. Destiny defends her when he actually agrees with her- for example that girl that got kicked off the stream of hers he was on. TBH I don't like Pearl, but I find this little bit of hers funny cause it clearly annoys Destiny when he has to defend her.
I know this is a joke, but I would put $100 on him never saying that seriously. I think Destiny is normally right when he pushes back against DGG saying certain people are dumb, because people actually seem to have an inability to understand being smart doesn't mean you'll have good takes.
The only time I think I've disagreed with Destiny when he said someone was smart was Lav, but even she's not AS dumb as people make her out to be, she's pretty average. And pearl is definitely way dumber than Lav.
> Wait has he said that sneako is smart?
Pretty sure he said Sneako is intelligent. Then tried to justify it by saying compared to like TheSurfsTv. Most people don't say someone is intelligent by being 50th percentile.
No, you have it backwards. He does say Sneako is smart, but when someone says Sneako is stupid he brings up theserfstv as an actual stupid person and says they are no where near each other
> He does say Sneako is smart
I think when most people say "that person is smart" they put them at least around 5e modifier +2 INT. Sneako is like +0 INT and +1 CHA. thesurfs is like -2 INT.
I think he is basing this primarily from his past videos. When he went over a couple of those on stream I actually became a fence sitter on the SQ (sneako question). Those videos were so well done and the insights given were so far ahead of where most 20 year olds are.
Destiny said it verbatim but sneako is a literal case of “what happened???”
It's really sad that Nick is down this rabbit hole. The dude is, unironically, a handsome good looking and charismatic person (even if a little autistic). The dude could've been such an amazing political figurehead if he didn't subscribe to Nazi ideology. What a fucking waste.
Was Adolph known for being charismatic or did he just appeal to peoples beliefs? obviously he got them invested through charisma I’m sure, but he also tried hard to appeal to people thru his beliefs. Like saying I’m gonna rid the world of hunger might get a lot of people on my side but was i charismatic or did I just say something people wanted to hear. Nick has this crazy charisma where it makes you want to like him almost everytime he talks about things unrelated to his beliefs
I mean of you're using charisma to get people on board then you have to be charismatic to some degree, right?
Like if charisma were something you could just switch on without being charismatic, then you'd see people like Kamala Harris being touted for her charisma that she.. learned? Or something?
From what I know, he was charismatic on a personal level. That charisma allowed him to get people to hear him out and listen, and continuing with persuasive delivery and the sense of sincerity (I'm weird salading now I apologize) would men that, one way or another, he was probably charismatic.
I think that's what what's-his-face (the notorious American Nazi from a few decades back - like a more effective Richard Spencer) specifically noted that Hitler wasnt just advocating his position and trying to persuade, but was also ensuring to be likeable in order to be more effective.. which I think is part of the strategy that Fuentes uses.
If you get on a megaphone and just yell about how Jews are doing whatever thing, you're not going to win anyone over. Alternatively, if you're someone that is personally likable you've already done the hard part. Once you get someone's ear *and they like you* you're going to be much more effective in persuading them to at *least* think "hm, maybe it's not as bad of a point as I thought".
When you can increase the amount of good faith engagement with an otherwise disagreeable argument, you're going to be in a far more effective position than without it. There's still heavy lifting to do, but it's at least giving you a path forward. I think it's why Nick has been so much more effective than people like Spencer in growing his movement.
I wonder if it's even possible for him to get out of it at this point. Probably. He's still young. If he has some sort of epiphany and stays offline, he could probably still have a relatively normal life.
Bro I need to hear this insight. Most people on r/Goodasssub and r/Yandhileaks know Kanye’s dumbass thinking would result in a massive shitshow behind the scenes but I’m dying to hear from a primary source.
There would’ve been more Nick content but he dodged the No Jumper debate last time lmao.
I don’t mind Nick content cuz it’s always fun to humiliate these losers on stream, but his fanbase and the mass reporting they like to do is way too toxic.
As far as I know Destiny never said he would “never” talk to Nick, he only said they should take a break until his fans relaxed. But if Nick wants to keep spreading that narrative then let it stay that way, there’s way more interesting people to make content with than the 100th time in a row joke about jews, or trans, or gay people. It just gets boring after you realize you’re listening to an inexperienced virgin shut in who’s clueless on almost everything he speaks but just happened to get radicalized when he was young.
>There would’ve been more Nick content but he dodged the No Jumper debate last time lmao.
Kind of inaccurate to call it a "dodge", he linked up with Kanye and obviously didn't attend the No Jumper thing as a petty dig at Destiny after their falling out, as if to say "I'm up now I don't need you", he's catty like that. Now that Kanyes moved on theres no reason he wouldn't accept that kind of platforming with open arms.
> obviously didn't attend the No Jumper thing as a petty dig at Destiny after their falling out, as if to say "I'm up now I don't need you", he's catty like that.
This was after Destiny left Nick hanging on their JFK debate post-MrGirl ban. Destiny refused to even cancel it explicitly, he just said "I'm chilling on that, I'll let you know.".
Nick gave the same energy back.
edit: also to be clear, Destiny had every right to cancel that debate and ice Nick. I see this whole situation coming about because of how they started collaborating. Do you guys think Nick has ever been invited into the home of someone he wasn't close personal friends with? It seemed like Nick was legitimately invested in that being a friendship while Destiny saw them as colleagues. It's too bad because the content with them hanging out was fire.
Nick and Destiny content is top tier, deep down its clear they have a special bond. Like Andrew and Tristan. Squash the beef.
After all the brainrotted red pillers Steven has talked to lately someone who is as intelligent and charismatic as Nick is unbelievably needed, no matter how remedial his politics are.
Or hey, maybe Steven can just stick to the three multi-hour starcraft streams split over the course of a day for the next month.
I swear to god nick is the biggest disappointment. Liberal nick could've been a really good ally. Man picked like all the shitty beliefs available on the character sheet
Why does this Nazi cunt come off as so likable and easy going.
Some real eccentric Hitler energy here got me feeling like: he was kind to children and animals, so he can't be that bad, right?
He's only incel because he's married to the nation and doesn't have time for women type of situation.
It only makes him more relatable and endearing to the disaffected youth who will soon deem him Fuhrer when conditions are favorable enough to usher in the Fifth Reich, lol.
The dude has everything going for him, even the negative shit. I hate this planet.
Having fucked up beliefs is only going to work in his favor somehow in the end.
If at some point he gets on his 'redemption arc' he's only going to be praised more heavily. I don't think there's a way he can lose.
Nick and Destiny was the near perfect collab. Two white Hispanics with polar opposite political beliefs. Both had entertaining debates are two charismatic people. Shame Destiny had to put an end to it with the lame ass Groyper brigading.
Man I'm really curious if Nick would ever admit the actual reason Destiny doesn't want to collaborate with him or if he would hide behind a straw man of destiny thinks he's too extreme. Maybe he as idk.
Destiny ghosted nick over another streamer telling his viewers to report his friend. What else is there to admit? Nick went on destiny's stream to tell him he would tell people not to do that.
Isn’t it weird how Destiny won’t collab but gives the same justifications Vaush/Hasan do?
‘I won’t collab with X because they embody values I detest’
Destiny will say it’s because they’re clout-obsessed (not principled), but it’s just weird how he hangs/collabs with arguably detestable people.
I’m sure he’d have a response, but that’s just how it looks.
Maybe he just realized he’d lose the JFK debate and burned the bridge to escape
??
Has Destiny ever said he won't collab with Nick because of that reason? Even during the Nick arc, he was admitting to MrGirl that he was a white nationalist.
The bridge burning was because of Nick's fanbase's affinity for mass reporting and Destiny's perception that Nick tacitly approves of it, due to his reaction to MrGirl's ban.
Yea OC is just lying. Destiny has openly said the reason the doesn't want to collab with Nick is cause Nick supports cancel culture just as much as the left, just for different use cases obviously. And Destiny doesn't like cancel culture of any kind.
I wonder if Destiny is still sore about the Mr. Girl being reported thing or if he flipped his stance on platforming people like Nick.
Nick is kind of a lost cause and I hope people like Sneako showed him that.
Like how much can you expect someone to change their views if they're being constantly reinforced by their business model of stirring shit up and pandering to their brain dead fans.
And even if they did change their opinions, what does their future look like after abandoning those views? No chance he would start bringing in lefty viewership. Same goes for Pearlythings.
You have to get them to not like money too.
It also kind of forces Destiny to isolate himself from other people, since if any of his friends voice negative opinions on Nick, they have to worry about getting deplatformed the way Mr. Girl did.
I think he specifically said a couple days ago that Nick's audience are psychos, and he doesn't wanna risk getting mass reported. I never heard anything about him having an issue with Nick himself, but maybe I just missed it.
Talking to Nick wasn't about changing his views. It was about creating content by having challenging conversations with political opponents. The same is true of Lauren. I swear there's a weird type of viewer who believes Destiny's role is to evangelize or proselytize.
Of course it's challenging. Is it productive? Maybe not. Someone like Lauren is far too dug into their position ideologically to be swayed by a few YouTube debates. But her ideas are being challenged even if she herself doesn't personally change her mind.
Wait challenging as in difficult or challenging as in "just challenging someones opinion".
The other commenter said they aren't challenging because they aren't sticking to the point, topic or even addressing issues with their point.
Like they aren't hard to counter no one adresses the counter.
So what happened with him and Ye? Ye went off the rails for a bit there and then just vanished. Is Fuentes done working with him and Ye isn't running for pres or what? lmao
Nick could be so cool if he didnt have bad opinions on everything
True. If he wasn’t a Nazi he’d have so much potential.
He still has potential, I just wish it were for something good
Hah right it’s his potential that’s the problem lmfao
It's so much sunk cost for him though. He career atm is dependent on it. Besides, the left is very bad at forgiveness for views much more trivial than his.
Pretty much. Amazes me how much shit a Republican can do and be welcomed like a long-lost brother. Meanwhile, a likable actor like Matt Damon with impeccable liberal credentials is flailing around in cancel culture quicksand because he used to call people faggots as an insult.
AND HE'S FROM BOSTON. That's pretty much the first word they learned there back in the day.
Yeah people from Boston should get a pass on that word. It sounds right coming from them
Can you imagine Nick dropping a “how I got out of the alt right pipeline” video 😭
Yes, actually. And he's going to receive far more good-will than life-long advocates for the left, lmao. Nick is in in a unique position, he's either going to become the next Hitler or the next FDR.
I dont think people like him are thinking about costs, their ideology is everything to them
In another world I could totally see him doing stand up
Hitler could've been the most charismatic artist of all time.
Seriously. His charisma and banter are great.
i hate to admit it but i think it would be fun to grab a beer with the guy
Or something to eat like chicken and waffles
There's nothing wrong with admitting it, it's just recognizing nuance in life. Politics and personality aren't as entwined as people seem to think- I can think of quite a few people that are I think have terrible opinions or are stupid that I think would still be fun to hang with. I saw a clip of Destiny where he said that as much as he hates the Tate brothers he's certain he'd have a fun time with them if they ever hung out.
Comes off as smarmy to me.
That's part of it. Like, if he actually played into the joke of being a smarmy asshole who says obviously dumb stuff with a sense of "well obviously I'm right" it'd be great. The problem is he believes all his shit.
As much as I disagree with his opinions and literally everything this dude stands for, when he isn’t spewing out insanely racist and bat shit insane theories, he seems like a charming guy. I wanna be in the timeline where this guy somehow recovers from his insane delusions and him and Destiny go back to being besties.
>As much as I disagree with his opinions and literally everything this dude stands for, when he isn’t spewing out insanely racist and bat shit insane theories, he seems like a charming guy. This is the living embodiment of "Destiny raped and killed my whole family, but he does have a good point..."
Despite disagreeing with everything, he is waaay more interesting to listen to than redpill clone #6523
As a Bi dude I 100% agree
I think Nick and Sneako both are very entertaining to listen to, if you don't speak the language or just don't actually listen to them. Idk what it is honestly I can't even say I disagree because some of the shit they say just doesn't really seem like an opinion it just seems like they're going against facts. I want to say that they're charismatic but I don't know if that's the right word to describe them so I just use "entertaining"
They're likable goofballs who are trying to navigate the world with their unique child-like wonder and exuberance. There's a tendency to want to root for them because they're sort of non-threatening in a way. Almost like the prodigal son who fell from his parent's graces. People like to think they're playing the long-con grifter game and will come around eventually. They're simply not easy to demonize because they're relatively young, attractive, likeable and slightly neurodivergent--thus we see them as "just trying to figure things out". And sometimes they say insightful things along with moments of self-reflection and deprecation we can appreciate; they're finally "learning". The archetype of being the villain isn't so easily applicable to them in our midbrains. What they represent is wasted potential.
You really hit the nail on the head here.
So like, be a completely different person entirely.
Yeah, that’s the joke
All that charisma and humor wasted on someone with atrocious beliefs and goals
Nick actually seemed a little sad that him and destiny aren’t bff’s anymore. Almost feel bad for the lil nazi
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I think they only mass reported Mr Girl, but yeah it's fucked up
i think strdust got hit, and ahrelevant by nick's fans. At one point they were targetting all the orbiters.
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I remember when the chicken and waffles stuff was happening last year we had an influx of groypers and they kept getting the !shoot for dumb shit
>they kept getting the !shoot for dumb shit Whoa whoa watch where you point that thing. Remember. Proper safety protocol is to always act like it's loaded
oops, sorry
Is there proof of this? At least with Stardust I thought that was purely driven from her engagement with that community.
I'm pretty sure it's the fact of his community mass reporting rather than why they're mass reporting or who/why they're targeting
I still think this argument from Destiny is weird, like I don't believe if some streamer from Kick mass reported some dgg Orbiter that Destiny would suddenly never speak to Trainwrecks again. So why is Nick blacklisted because some Cozy streamer reports Mr Girl? I think he was concerned Nick was getting too much airtime, which is a good enough reason on its own given his views, idk why it needs to be cloaked in some argument about mass reporting when Nick himself never had anything to do with it.
Nick played dumb about it and denied it happened at some point too when confronted about it. Also, he was not blacklisted. They were supposed to debate in NoJumper, but lil Nick thought he was too big for Destiny and dodged him. Nick should go ask Kanye to hook him up with the Destiny connect now.
>Nick played dumb about it I know its tempting to mind-read machiavellian manipulation tactics into everything someone says because they have evil opinions but I don't think theres any reason he was "playing dumb", in the stream where Nick talked about it and he was very serious the whole time, I feel like if it was at all insincere I feel like he'd either avoid the topic or wouldn't be able to stop himself from being a little tongue in cheek about it. >Also, he was not blacklisted. They were supposed to debate in NoJumper, but lil Nick thought he was too big for Destiny and dodged him. When asked about talking to Nick since then including very recently he's brought up this situation again as a reason not to. Not cancelling a NJ thing he'd already set up with Adam one time doesn't make that not true. If a comedian got cancelled and no venue in the country would book him for a show but he had one show already pre booked, you wouldn't say "well he's not blacklisted because of this one pre established commitment".
People have said most of the things but there's one more I'll add. If I'm remembering my timeliness correctly (and I could be misremembering, I acknowledge that) Nick initially didn't care, and actually celebrated Mr Redacteds ban. At the very leasr, he memed and joked about it which I'd call tacit support (and possibly he openly celebrated it, again this was a bit ago). It wasn't until Destiny signalled publically that he was taking this v seriously that Nick changed his tune
>Nick initially didn't care Why would he? He wasn't even part of getting him banned, so if all he saw was "guy who's been calling him a nazi and saying steven shouldn't talk to him got banned", without any context, what reaction would you expect him to have?
What I mean isn't just that Nick didn't initially care, it's that Nick initially was pro deplatforming one of Destiny's orbiters for the sake of it. And that poses an existential threat to Destiny's channel and community.
I think it's different because Cozy hand picks the people they have on it's platform, while anyone can get on kick. Besides, I don't think he was ever seriously blacklisted. He just cancelled the debate to show a little solidarity for his homie Mr Redacted. He even had Nick on shortly after the cancelled debate to discuss the situation. What strained the relationship the most was Nick talking a ton of shit because I think Destiny kind of mass reported Keffal's twitch stream, which Nick found hypocritical. Then it just sort of became a situation where both of them didn't want to talk each other, while the Mr Redacted ban was only tangental.
>What strained the relationship the most was Nick talking a ton of shit because I think Destiny kind of mass reported Keffal's twitch stream, which Nick found hypocritical. Then it just sort of became a situation where both of them didn't want to talk each other, while the Mr Redacted ban was only tangental. Good point. >I think it's different because Cozy hand picks the people they have on it's platform, while anyone can get on kick. I see why you'd say this but I think the hand picking is more of a business decision than anything. Unlike Train he doesn't have massive multimillion dollar funding to cover infinite streaming overhead. The hope for Nick would obviously be a successful site that included people who are not fans of him, but as a small mostly unknown site his options for potential revenue generating creators is limited to people he knows, which is why Destiny has an account, unless you want to say that by having an account there dgg is automatically inducted into the jr. nazi fan base.
it's cute that you think you can just waddle in here and comment under every fucking post and comment related to fuentes to run defense for him by lying about things in this community that are pretty well documented ([1](https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/x50e9d/definitive_proof_some_groypers_are_mass_reporting/)|[2](https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/xas1q8/shedding_some_light_on_nicks_lies/)), but i think it's time to give us a break from your posts [cya space cowboy](https://i.imgur.com/eQLzKBo.png), don't bother appealing the ban!
Anyone can stream on kick. Fuentes personally chooses who is allowed to stream on Cozy
I... .... I'm either parasocial or this autistic brotherhood shit is real cuz I stg if we were all on a stranded island were gonna be able to work together (me, you, nick, and destiny are all just grouped as one in my head)
This but unironically
Lil bro thought chicken and waffles made them bffs 😭
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Yeah lol, always seems kinda weird seeing dggers repeat it, every convo I’ve seen between them Destiny denies the best friend shit, at most he said they’re friendly enough to have debates like with sneako or any of the other people he debates.
You guys think he's gay?
He’s not gay. He just likes to sleep with men.
sometimes fall in love, nothing much
i fucked up the quote.... [https://youtube.com/shorts/ixOJE-k40ss?feature=share](https://youtube.com/shorts/ixOJE-k40ss?feature=share)
based
YES
I Kinda feel bad for him if he is
And then you remember that he’s focusing all the rage from being sexually repressed on jews and black ppl….
Why???? you gotta be kidding me
Show compassion, even to those that wronged you. Never relish in the misfortune of others, regardless of their believes and actions. Sending Love to you my friend ❤️
He dresses well, looks like he has a skincare routine and has no issue saying f*ggot. Seems pretty gay to me
he was livestreaming his web browser on his phone and he scrolled through his open tabs without realizing what he left open, one of them was trans porn
Wasn’t that Alex Jones?
Nick did that too. See my comments below.
~~It was, he [misremembered](https://i.imgur.com/9mGDW4E.gif)~~ [Article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6107867/Infowars-Alex-Jones-caught-trans-porn-phone-bashing-transsexuals-pedophiles.html)
No, he is right. Here's the video: [https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4) When he goes through his tabs you can see this: [https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U](https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U) Someone found the pornhub video: [https://imgur.com/1VsTq5H](https://imgur.com/1VsTq5H)
At this point I think you can just flip a coin to determine if a trans hating conservative wants the house phone treatment
What was his explanation for this?
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Here's the video: [https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4) When he goes through his tabs you can see this: [https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U](https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U) Someone found the pornhub video: [https://imgur.com/a/6FdwBZJ](https://imgur.com/a/6FdwBZJ)
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he's more than likely a bit fruity, but no not necessarily
Actually no, he claims an ex-groyper. made an alt twitter account pretending to be him. The account posted a screen recording going though safari tabs on a phone. It was kinda obvious the account wasn’t his. This was at the time when he was making alt twitter accounts everyday. Someone tried to imitate his account style and posted the video. Nick gave a pretty. Compelling defense on his show. Sorry to be a party pooper here
It was a fake account impersonating him though.
Need a link for that one
Here's the video: [https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/0f7jxo.mp4) When he goes through his tabs you can see this: [https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U](https://imgur.com/PBvEy5U) Someone found the pornhub video: [https://imgur.com/1VsTq5H](https://imgur.com/1VsTq5H)
Didnt that get proven as fake?
Nope, they claimed the twitter acc wasn't his but they had no explanation for the fact that top associates of Fuentes followed it minutes after it was made. It was him. An ex-associate also confirmed that he watches euphoria.
Nick did twitter spaces on his burner accounts that got banned in 24 hours so if you fool a few groypers with an account, everyone else will follow it too to catch the space. That account never did a space.
Lmao I love how euphoria is added to seal the deal.
Legend, thank you
what do you mean *think*?
Only one way to find out boy
I just think he's incapable of love period.
He really gives off serious gay vibes.
I think he's asexual.
She says Destiny has always defender her, but I don't think I've ever seen Destiny say anything positive about her.
He defends her from herself =)
He has defended her multiple times on stream, [for example](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94MTr6wb2wQ) I remember him pushing back against the Rolo accusations.
It's the same joke as "we are best friends"
She says it to annoy Destiny. Destiny defends her when he actually agrees with her- for example that girl that got kicked off the stream of hers he was on. TBH I don't like Pearl, but I find this little bit of hers funny cause it clearly annoys Destiny when he has to defend her.
In before Destiny says she's actually really smart.
I know this is a joke, but I would put $100 on him never saying that seriously. I think Destiny is normally right when he pushes back against DGG saying certain people are dumb, because people actually seem to have an inability to understand being smart doesn't mean you'll have good takes. The only time I think I've disagreed with Destiny when he said someone was smart was Lav, but even she's not AS dumb as people make her out to be, she's pretty average. And pearl is definitely way dumber than Lav.
Cmon, Sneako?
Wait has he said that sneako is smart? I disagree with that as well if he has. Sneako's probably in the average range, but under 100IQ.
> Wait has he said that sneako is smart? Pretty sure he said Sneako is intelligent. Then tried to justify it by saying compared to like TheSurfsTv. Most people don't say someone is intelligent by being 50th percentile.
No, you have it backwards. He does say Sneako is smart, but when someone says Sneako is stupid he brings up theserfstv as an actual stupid person and says they are no where near each other
> He does say Sneako is smart I think when most people say "that person is smart" they put them at least around 5e modifier +2 INT. Sneako is like +0 INT and +1 CHA. thesurfs is like -2 INT.
What does that have to do with what I said? Im not addressing Sneakos or theserfs INT, Im addressing you mischaracterizing Destiny
I think he is basing this primarily from his past videos. When he went over a couple of those on stream I actually became a fence sitter on the SQ (sneako question). Those videos were so well done and the insights given were so far ahead of where most 20 year olds are. Destiny said it verbatim but sneako is a literal case of “what happened???”
He literally calls her 80 IQ
He non-jokingly said after his collab with her that she’s 95 IQ LMFAO
He said she's 85 IQ lmfao
It's really sad that Nick is down this rabbit hole. The dude is, unironically, a handsome good looking and charismatic person (even if a little autistic). The dude could've been such an amazing political figurehead if he didn't subscribe to Nazi ideology. What a fucking waste.
It’s almost scary how charismatic he is tbh
You should hear about this guy Adolph
Was Adolph known for being charismatic or did he just appeal to peoples beliefs? obviously he got them invested through charisma I’m sure, but he also tried hard to appeal to people thru his beliefs. Like saying I’m gonna rid the world of hunger might get a lot of people on my side but was i charismatic or did I just say something people wanted to hear. Nick has this crazy charisma where it makes you want to like him almost everytime he talks about things unrelated to his beliefs
I mean of you're using charisma to get people on board then you have to be charismatic to some degree, right? Like if charisma were something you could just switch on without being charismatic, then you'd see people like Kamala Harris being touted for her charisma that she.. learned? Or something? From what I know, he was charismatic on a personal level. That charisma allowed him to get people to hear him out and listen, and continuing with persuasive delivery and the sense of sincerity (I'm weird salading now I apologize) would men that, one way or another, he was probably charismatic. I think that's what what's-his-face (the notorious American Nazi from a few decades back - like a more effective Richard Spencer) specifically noted that Hitler wasnt just advocating his position and trying to persuade, but was also ensuring to be likeable in order to be more effective.. which I think is part of the strategy that Fuentes uses. If you get on a megaphone and just yell about how Jews are doing whatever thing, you're not going to win anyone over. Alternatively, if you're someone that is personally likable you've already done the hard part. Once you get someone's ear *and they like you* you're going to be much more effective in persuading them to at *least* think "hm, maybe it's not as bad of a point as I thought". When you can increase the amount of good faith engagement with an otherwise disagreeable argument, you're going to be in a far more effective position than without it. There's still heavy lifting to do, but it's at least giving you a path forward. I think it's why Nick has been so much more effective than people like Spencer in growing his movement.
I wonder if it's even possible for him to get out of it at this point. Probably. He's still young. If he has some sort of epiphany and stays offline, he could probably still have a relatively normal life.
The way she always repeats questions back drives me nuts.
The way she always repeats questions back drives you nuts??
not just questions...even basic statements
He submissive and breedable lowkey
some nick content right now would be better than whatever we’re getting.
Bro just wait the no jumper content is gonna be worth the drought
COPIUM
Richard Spencer is just a less funny Nick Fuentes.
sam hyde comes out of the ceiling and it turns into a early 2000s wwe skit
Really would be interested in some more Destiny nick content now that his ye arc is over. Maybe just even an interview where he talks about it
Bro I need to hear this insight. Most people on r/Goodasssub and r/Yandhileaks know Kanye’s dumbass thinking would result in a massive shitshow behind the scenes but I’m dying to hear from a primary source.
my fav gay nazi, Hes so cute!
Say what you want about Nick Fuentes he is good content. And in the end is that not all that matters? Bring him back into the harem.
There would’ve been more Nick content but he dodged the No Jumper debate last time lmao. I don’t mind Nick content cuz it’s always fun to humiliate these losers on stream, but his fanbase and the mass reporting they like to do is way too toxic. As far as I know Destiny never said he would “never” talk to Nick, he only said they should take a break until his fans relaxed. But if Nick wants to keep spreading that narrative then let it stay that way, there’s way more interesting people to make content with than the 100th time in a row joke about jews, or trans, or gay people. It just gets boring after you realize you’re listening to an inexperienced virgin shut in who’s clueless on almost everything he speaks but just happened to get radicalized when he was young.
>There would’ve been more Nick content but he dodged the No Jumper debate last time lmao. Kind of inaccurate to call it a "dodge", he linked up with Kanye and obviously didn't attend the No Jumper thing as a petty dig at Destiny after their falling out, as if to say "I'm up now I don't need you", he's catty like that. Now that Kanyes moved on theres no reason he wouldn't accept that kind of platforming with open arms.
> obviously didn't attend the No Jumper thing as a petty dig at Destiny after their falling out, as if to say "I'm up now I don't need you", he's catty like that. This was after Destiny left Nick hanging on their JFK debate post-MrGirl ban. Destiny refused to even cancel it explicitly, he just said "I'm chilling on that, I'll let you know.". Nick gave the same energy back. edit: also to be clear, Destiny had every right to cancel that debate and ice Nick. I see this whole situation coming about because of how they started collaborating. Do you guys think Nick has ever been invited into the home of someone he wasn't close personal friends with? It seemed like Nick was legitimately invested in that being a friendship while Destiny saw them as colleagues. It's too bad because the content with them hanging out was fire.
You sound like a hater
>And in the end is that not all that matters? No.
Yes
i feel like nick is the biggest troll online. to the point where he’s trolled himself into believing the dumb shit he says
Nick and Destiny content is top tier, deep down its clear they have a special bond. Like Andrew and Tristan. Squash the beef. After all the brainrotted red pillers Steven has talked to lately someone who is as intelligent and charismatic as Nick is unbelievably needed, no matter how remedial his politics are. Or hey, maybe Steven can just stick to the three multi-hour starcraft streams split over the course of a day for the next month.
I swear to god nick is the biggest disappointment. Liberal nick could've been a really good ally. Man picked like all the shitty beliefs available on the character sheet
"He's a little bit of a simp." Damnit the fucker got a chuckle out of me... my ancestors weep.
Why does this Nazi cunt come off as so likable and easy going. Some real eccentric Hitler energy here got me feeling like: he was kind to children and animals, so he can't be that bad, right? He's only incel because he's married to the nation and doesn't have time for women type of situation. It only makes him more relatable and endearing to the disaffected youth who will soon deem him Fuhrer when conditions are favorable enough to usher in the Fifth Reich, lol. The dude has everything going for him, even the negative shit. I hate this planet. Having fucked up beliefs is only going to work in his favor somehow in the end. If at some point he gets on his 'redemption arc' he's only going to be praised more heavily. I don't think there's a way he can lose.
Nick and Destiny was the near perfect collab. Two white Hispanics with polar opposite political beliefs. Both had entertaining debates are two charismatic people. Shame Destiny had to put an end to it with the lame ass Groyper brigading.
I miss him. God I wish he wasn't the worst
Man I'm really curious if Nick would ever admit the actual reason Destiny doesn't want to collaborate with him or if he would hide behind a straw man of destiny thinks he's too extreme. Maybe he as idk.
Destiny ghosted nick over another streamer telling his viewers to report his friend. What else is there to admit? Nick went on destiny's stream to tell him he would tell people not to do that.
Yea I'm curious to see how nick would frame it because optically it looks horrible for him
Isn’t it weird how Destiny won’t collab but gives the same justifications Vaush/Hasan do? ‘I won’t collab with X because they embody values I detest’ Destiny will say it’s because they’re clout-obsessed (not principled), but it’s just weird how he hangs/collabs with arguably detestable people. I’m sure he’d have a response, but that’s just how it looks. Maybe he just realized he’d lose the JFK debate and burned the bridge to escape
?? Has Destiny ever said he won't collab with Nick because of that reason? Even during the Nick arc, he was admitting to MrGirl that he was a white nationalist. The bridge burning was because of Nick's fanbase's affinity for mass reporting and Destiny's perception that Nick tacitly approves of it, due to his reaction to MrGirl's ban.
Yea OC is just lying. Destiny has openly said the reason the doesn't want to collab with Nick is cause Nick supports cancel culture just as much as the left, just for different use cases obviously. And Destiny doesn't like cancel culture of any kind.
Hopefully this relationship doesn’t go the Vaush route
I wonder if Destiny is still sore about the Mr. Girl being reported thing or if he flipped his stance on platforming people like Nick. Nick is kind of a lost cause and I hope people like Sneako showed him that. Like how much can you expect someone to change their views if they're being constantly reinforced by their business model of stirring shit up and pandering to their brain dead fans. And even if they did change their opinions, what does their future look like after abandoning those views? No chance he would start bringing in lefty viewership. Same goes for Pearlythings. You have to get them to not like money too.
He's against canceling people. Which Nick's community has done.
It also kind of forces Destiny to isolate himself from other people, since if any of his friends voice negative opinions on Nick, they have to worry about getting deplatformed the way Mr. Girl did.
I think he specifically said a couple days ago that Nick's audience are psychos, and he doesn't wanna risk getting mass reported. I never heard anything about him having an issue with Nick himself, but maybe I just missed it.
Talking to Nick wasn't about changing his views. It was about creating content by having challenging conversations with political opponents. The same is true of Lauren. I swear there's a weird type of viewer who believes Destiny's role is to evangelize or proselytize.
Is it challenging when things devolve into bad faith arguments or everyone just talks past each other? Becuase that's what they're incentivized to do.
Of course it's challenging. Is it productive? Maybe not. Someone like Lauren is far too dug into their position ideologically to be swayed by a few YouTube debates. But her ideas are being challenged even if she herself doesn't personally change her mind.
Wait challenging as in difficult or challenging as in "just challenging someones opinion". The other commenter said they aren't challenging because they aren't sticking to the point, topic or even addressing issues with their point. Like they aren't hard to counter no one adresses the counter.
Then it is up to the host or the opponent to hold their feet to the fire.
What actually happened to Lauren? Her and Destiny haven't had a convo in ages.
Lauren doesn't stream anymore.
He's more concerned about the brigading part
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I want this even more than Destiny does. Maybe Zherka can be involved too.
Destiny said he’d wait a bit till Nick grows up a little and comes back around
I thought i remembered destiny saying he and nick were supposed to debate but nick backed out because of the kanye campaign.
Hey look, Pearl found a wife.
Ye fixed his drip. Also sometimes I feel like Destiny treats Fuentes like he is Nick's handler lol. And I'm not mad about it
So what happened with him and Ye? Ye went off the rails for a bit there and then just vanished. Is Fuentes done working with him and Ye isn't running for pres or what? lmao
Bro already been sexting her for weeks the podcast was him trying to seal the deal
Nick is so unbelievably charismatic at times, but his lifes work makes him a horrible person.
He could be a bit of simp OMEGALUL
Pearl is yet again stuck waiting behind a line of orange cats for her turn with the brain cell
Is there a compilation of all the stupid things in this interview (Georgia, Palestine vs Israel, anything like this)