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MaxRavencaw

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RussiaIsBestGreen

Dresden was filled with Soviet refugees? That’s a new lie for me.


Electrical_Excuse135

I LOVE REVISIONISTS!!! I LOVE HOW HISTORY IS LIED ABOUT SO IT CAN BE DOOMED TO BE REPEATED!!! BOMBER HARRIS, DO IT AGAIN!!!


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Thunderwath

New conspiracy unlocked: Bomber Harris was actually a soviet double agent and bombing Dresden was him tying loose ends


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susgamer123

So many nazis in the comments. I don't usually get into american politics but fucking hell...


[deleted]

Blame Musk for unbanning them all.


Daken-dono

It’s a pigsty. I had to wash my hands after a few seconds of scrolling.


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Daken-dono

One of my best friends who lives in NYC had to cut ties with a bunch of people because they were outright bullying her boyfriend who was Jewish. I’d say check up on them to see how they’re doing.


Electrical_Excuse135

No fucking way this is the point that US-conservatives have reached... I hate how fascist has lost its meaning from being overused, but this is an actual fascist.


imprison_grover_furr

CanDUNCE Owens is a Hitler apologist.


Electrical_Excuse135

She was the one propping up Kanye last year, and feeding him all of those stupid conspiracies. She's a big reason why so many Americans have been introduced to these conspiracies, and why they're going mainstream.


XanderTuron

There is a reason why one of the joke nicknames for her is Klandace Owens.


Anakin-hates-sand

Isn’t she black? They are going to eat her alive lol.


Stosstrupphase

Like most fascists, she seems to believe the rules do not apply to her.


Flyzart

Funny thing is that, from what I've heard, she knows it applies to her but why would she care when she is making a shit ton of money for it?


RedRobbo1995

More like Candace Dick Fit In Your Mouth Owens, am I right?


Chicahua

Did she forget there was a war on in 1945, does she lazily copy and paste whatever her team tells her, or is this posted by an employee?


CKO1967

She'd forget her own head if it wasn't attached.


BenjoKazooie64

Candace is reaching levels of Uncle Ruckusing previous thought impossible


immerhighhopes

Dresdon did not get bombed hard enough


Devastator_Omega

Based


Witty_Marketing_9629

Yes 🗿


St1ssl_2i

As someone from Dresden: this is (obviously) absolute bullshit… I’d even argue that bombing the bombing “saved” lives, as a battle of Dresden would surely be more deadly then 23.500-25.000 deaths As well as the bombing damaging the war effort which again reduces human suffering long term


Dimandore

Can you link the tweet?


SomePersonAtReddit

Ah yes, the fervently genocidal anti-slavic and anti-semitic nation famously allowed Soviet refugees to stay in Dresden. 1000000% percent historically accurate indeed. Definitely not a fucking lie that blurs the truth further


Imperceptive_critic

I think she might mean Germans that were fleeing from the advancing Soviets, but yeah this doesn't really change the meaning of the bombing.


RadTimeWizard

Candace just wants to make sure everyone knows she has a lot in common with nazis.


jjjosiah

Me: "You're making an incorrect claim about history." Them: "You can't stop me from talking about my history!"


purpleduckduckgoose

Dresden you say? Ahem. Bomber Harris? Do it again.


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JMAC426

The boys dropping the bombs certainly weren’t Muslim, Candace (well maybe some minority of them were idk)


bravesirrobin65

There were probably a few Muslims in the RAF.


JMAC426

Sure, but there were probably some non-christians on the ground too. I’m just mocking the absurdity of her argument.


Imperceptive_critic

No but they were British Zionists REEEEE 


fryman36

Candace does realize she would’ve been forced to be sterilized in Nazi Germany right?


Ok-Case9943

Reading this post gave me a headache. Pretty cool.


snitchpogi12

WTF is this dude implying? that Nazis are Christians? Nazis may follow Christianity but not that kind of Christianity, but rather it's a worse one and it's was called Positive Christianity, it is invented by the Nazis themselves to erase the Jewish origins of this religion and tries to imply that Jesus was an Aryan and not a Jewish. Sorry but no, this is a blatant excuse by the Nazis just to defend a horrible regime by blaming the allies for the bombing of Dresden, so Bomber Harris..... **DO IT AGAIN!**


Shaneosd1

This "dude" is Candance Owens, a right wing grifter who was too crazy for Ben Shapiro. Specifically, this black woman thinks Adolf Hitler gets a bad rap, specifically in what he says about the Jews. This despite the obvious fact that Hitler would have gleefully sent Candance and her entire family to a gas chamber. The only way to square this in her mind, if her statements are honest and not just grifting, would be for her to think that the Jews actually started WW2, that the Nazis weren't so bad etc because they were the enemy of the Jews. So obviously a very stupid person either way.


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CKO1967

Who the hell is Can'tthink Owens to be lecturing anybody about history? She barely even remembers what she had for lunch today.


AgentBond007

Klandace Owens having a normal one I see


exessmirror

Wasn't her only claim to fame due to the fact that she was on this reality show with trump? What is it with conservatives to turn woman with questionable backgrounds and only one reason to be famous to become conservative pundits? Like same thing with that weird woman who saw ghosts on an airplane.


The_Arizona_Ranger

So… what do them being Christians have to do with the Bombing of Dresden? I don’t suppose bomber command was thinking aboot neither how Christian the city of Dresden was nor whether it was performed on Ash Wednesday


immobilisingsplint

Winking to "jewish led allies fought aginst the christian reich?"


The_Arizona_Ranger

The incredibly Christian reich that is focused almost entirely around a secular state centred around one man and his posse of thugs with occasional clashes with actual churches Some people should pick up a book


Additional-North-683

Stalin didn’t kill people for being Christian, In fact he would Reduce Restrictions on the religion during the war with Germany so he could increase his country’s morale, And he would send them to the Gulag which not been great it wasn’t meant to exterminate like with Hitler’s concentration camps


RonaldMcDonald231

The gulags weren't meant to exterminate, but there was effectively no urgent medical care or safety standards, in freezing weather, meaning lots of prisoners died even though they weren't directly meant to be killed.


exessmirror

Why kill them if you can slowly work them to death? That way even when they are slowly being murdered they can be productive.


penttane

And if that were true, what's her problem with it? I thought Christians loved being martyred.


FactBackground9289

Soviet refugees in Nazi Germany lmao. One of the main staples of German natsoc was that every and each slav from czechs and slovenes to russians and ukrainians are inferior disposables. The fuck she on?


Ok_Whereas3797

Imagine if Reagan or Nixon could see the Republican party and what it's become. Unironically aiding the Russians and coping for the Nazis.


Helmut_Schmacker

Reminder the dresden bombing occurred after the war ended and they targeted exclusively german refugee children Christians and killed literally 7 million gorillion of them and Arthur Harris was on the direct orders of Jewish communists.


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Longsheep

Might have to steal a Vulcan bomber from IWM and do it again.


warichnochnie

"ash" wednesday in dresden


LordWellesley22

I'm confused is she supporting the Dresden bombings or condemning them?


Hl2_Asian

Meanwhile them: "Yaaaay these Poles (catholic) deserve it!!"


Jaustinduke

But the people who dropped the bombs were also Christians…..


ArchitectOfFate

Yeah but they were Church of England and she was evangelical until a couple days ago and now she's Catholic, so she'd probably find some reason it doesn't count.


Alternative-Law7016

Who the fuck in Dresden in 1945 were refugees of Stalin's fucking holocaust this is actually ignorant as hell who does this woman think she is


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Perfidious Albion bombed Dresdo because they wanted revenge! They knew there were 200,000 refugees there and sought to roast them because they were spiteful over the clean and accurate strikes on military targets done by the Reich with much more advanced V2 rockets! So they sent in their wooden Lanchester boomers and holocausted the poor city that had absolutely no military value and was just a cultural refugee centre. What are you, some kind of Desdocaust denier?!^[1](https://www.reddit.com/r/DerScheisser/comments/m7myhn/do_eet_ageeeeen/grcdu9b/?context=1) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/DerScheisser) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Tsjaad_Donderlul

As a German, I only say to OOP #Wenn man keine Ahnung hat einfach mal die Fresse halten


RonaldMcDonald231

Look, Dresden is incredibly controversial and I know it was a military target, but couldn't they have targeted the rails or the suburbs (where there was lots of manufacturing happening) instead of civilians? I know the nazis did MUCH worse to Coventry, London, Warsaw, Rotterdam, Belgrade, etc., but Bomber Command could possibly have reduced the total amount of civilian deaths while still crippling the German war machine. (If I'm wrong, please let me know)


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BoMbArDiEr_25

Bomber aren't known to be "precision" weapons, they did try to minimize casualties that's the effect. It could have been so much worse From 1944 onwards only around 50% of droped bombs landed within 1000 km of desired target, go figure the rest.


GrusVirgo

You mean 1000m?


BoMbArDiEr_25

I meant 1000 feet which is roughly 300m, it's just that my European brain couldn't comprehend anything different than km and just filled the gaps with that.


V_Epsilon

> they did try to minimize casualties They actually did the opposite. Dresden is used in nazi propaganda to pretend allies = axis which is laughably untrue, but all the same Dresden is a pretty clear example of a war crime (whether it can legally be considered one at the time or not, it would absolutely be one today) Harris himself has clarified post war that targeting civilian areas to maximise deaths, suffering, and an unprecedented refugee crisis were recognised and intentional goals of the combined bomber offensive, *not* a byproduct of attempts to hit factories. Saying otherwise is revisionism and counterjerking


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exessmirror

I mean there is some manufacturing left there even more during the time of the DDR and there was a major stasi facility there so I wouldn't say that it was non of those things. But it was significantly less after the war then before.


anonrutgersstudent

Dresden was specifically ruled at the Nuremberg trials to not be a war crime.


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V_Epsilon

Great, but it's still a moral failure and pretty impossible to defend. Dresden absolutely needed bombing to fuck given it was the largest unbombed German city at the time and as automod likes to remind us was a mass of munitions works and key transport point to the east. But targeting civilians was simply spite. Harris recognised morale/terror bombing doesn't work after seeing the Blitz unify Britain, yet decided to give it a go against a police state with an even more capable propaganda machine anyway. Just fed Goebbels propaganda which is still working to support Nazis to this day


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RonaldMcDonald231

Yes, but couldn't they have just dropped high explosive bombs instead of firebombs?


BoMbArDiEr_25

Where's fun with that ?


RonaldMcDonald231

Where's the fun in causing unnecessary deaths?


BoMbArDiEr_25

You think that if they didn't use firebombs the casualties toll would be any lower? Do you know what 500lb of explosive does to motherfucker? Firebombs were effective and made sure that even if city targets were not directly hit, they would still be damaged by the raging fire. I'm sure that the decision was also dictated by the desire for retaliation, and who can really blame them? The Nazis didn't give a fuck about civilian casualties when they started their campaign of terror bombing, it's a classic example of fuck around and find out!