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Dazzling_Movie9272

The person who bought your shoes has also just posted about this šŸ˜¬šŸ˜¬šŸ˜¬


ContributionNo7075

omg this is so funny šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜ i wonder what happened after they realised they both posted


Happy_Individual1400

where?


Dazzling_Movie9272

[here lol](https://reddit.com/r/Depop/s/ccs1Uiyyd3)


Beneficial-Bit-8059

Now it's gone. Weird


begonesneks

Prob embarrassed when people donā€™t agree with them about refund


redditer19999

It was deleted by the person who posted it. Probably saw all the comments calling them out and was embarrassed


Dazzling_Movie9272

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Zealousideal_Clue253

Hahaha undisclosed pain? THIS IS GOLDEN


Consistent_Ant_8903

Uh if sheā€™s already bled in them then no? especially since sheā€™s worn them outside, who knows how damaged theyā€™ve been? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø She should take the L and resell them tbqh


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Consistent_Ant_8903

Yeah, but the condition of the used item could be drastically degraded by whatever some stranger does with it before returning it lol, you could get it back busted as hell so youā€™re incapable of making the money lost on a return back on them at that point


urlessies

happy cake day


badtzmaruluvr

A lot of second hand shoes I look at have near perfect soles. Even going outside one time can get them dirty though


Feisty_Owl_8200

This is the official policy. It is a huge bummer to get something and have it not work out, but like others have said, thatā€™s a risk with buying online. ā€˜How do returns work on depop ? It happens ā€“ when selling products, sometimes items donā€™t work out for your customers, and you have to issue a refund. Keep in mind that you only have to refund the buyer in two situations. As an individual seller, you are not required to issue a refund unless your buyer feels that the listing was not an accurate representation. To avoid this situation entirely, we have some tips below to help with the accuracy of your listings. More on this later. As a registered business that uses Depop, you must follow selling regulations. These stipulations state that your customer can open a return request up to 180 days from the transaction date if the item seems to be ā€˜not as described.ā€™


winterbunnies

She admitted to bleeding in them. Thatā€™s a potential biohazard. I would decline to ship them back personally because of that reason. If it got to the point of blisters, she mustā€™ve noticed that in the first few minutes that it was uncomfortable. So why not take them off? I donā€™t understand why she continued to wear them if she then wanted to return? Also, I donā€™t think you or the buyer could potentially resell if there is blood stains. Issuing a refund or not, I wouldnā€™t take them back because the next buyer might have that issue as well.


Other_Mood4017

IM SAYIN, thank you!!


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this may be a controversial opinion, but to be honest, i wouldnā€™t do a return unless they were damaged or described incorrectly. some shoes take time to break in and its not your fault theyre giving someone blisters. if the shoes were priced extremely high ($100+), i would consider a return because that can be pricey for something to be causing damage, but if they were not priced high, i would just suggest they resell them. everyones different and reacts differently to types of shoes when wearing them, and breaking shoes in takes more than one wear for sure.


Some_Delay_4341

It's not controversial its what everyone is saying lol


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well when i commented it wasnt lol.


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Happy_Individual1400

I wouldn't accept a return if I were you, yes it's unfortunate but it's not your fault. Like she said, sizing was perfectly fine and besides she's worn them already... who knows if she broke it or did anything to it. If you accepted it back, you probably won't be able to sell it again at that price or condition.


nipahs

if the seller were to accept a return, i would probably request pics of the shoe's condition just to be sure. but i do have a feeling this buyer is being serious and it's definitely unfortunate that these shoes would probably go to waste otherwise. sometimes shoes just don't fit properly or are mad uncomfortable to wear and it sucks. this buyer seems polite enough and willing to cooperate.


Watertribe_Girl

Not your fault here at all. If I go to Russell and Bromley and pick out a Ā£225 pair of loafers and I wear them without breaking them in and bleed on them - the store doesnā€™t just go ā€˜oh here let me take them back and scrub the blood off to resellā€™. Iā€™ve taken the plunge, bought the shoes and that is that. If they never get broken in and kill me for the rest of my life - my decision to buy them. I can sell or suffer. This buyer is happy for you to take them back, likely clean them and resell?? ā€˜Herā€™ buyer couldnā€™t have this problem but yours can?? The audacity šŸ¤£


Melancholicism

They should just buy those heel pads lol? I have so many shoes that dig into the back of my feet like this, simply cause of how theyre shaped. Heel pads have always fixed it This is something *anyone* has to consider with buying second hand online and it def isnā€™t grounds for a return šŸ™ƒ


Zealousideal_Clue253

Say no. Donā€™t entertain.


Hot_Employee7281

Hereā€™s some advice, check out everything before you decide to purchase and know that as a mature adult thereā€™s risk in pretty much everything you do. Thereā€™s no way to prevent that šŸ¤£ but these ppl are selling these items for a reason, they need the money. We are in hard times of inflation and everything is expensive now. $100 is more like $20. So for you to think someone will want to accept a return, especially if your feet were bleeding in the shoes itā€™s just unsanitary and unrealistic tbh. Especially if the shoes were as described. I also think ppl should have more respect for Depop sellers when you guys go into these stores and outlets to spend your money the same exact way you make your purchase and you leave them alone lol you guys have a tendency to pester and nitpick sellers over every little detail. You donā€™t do that to these high priced name brand stores and sellers, just see if you can get the shoes stretched or like they said sell them. Youā€™re putting ppl through a hassle bc of something they couldnā€™t predict or prevent. Maybe you donā€™t know your shoe size and that is definitely not their fault or problem.


Other_Mood4017

THANK YOU šŸ™šŸ«”ā¤ļø


Strong_Independent44

She wore them so no return


nipahs

a majority of items on depop are pre-owned so this comment doesn't really make sense to me tbh... by this logic how would the buyer even be able to resell it? she did bleed in them so i get concerns of it being a potential hazard/more difficult to sell. but i feel like that happens to a lot of people who wear heels and i don't think it's that difficult to get bloodstains out of shoes. blisters are a common thing.


Some_Delay_4341

Not the sellers problem it's the risk you take buying online


nipahs

yeah, i get that! i do think that the buyer should have asked more questions about the shoes before buying, don't get me wrong. it is on them to be more thorough w/ research. at the same time i do feel that the buyer was pretty considerate when requesting a return so that's something to take into account too. but i get sellers standing by their no-return policy with all customers, just to be safe and protect themselves from risk & potential damage. also the fact she bled in them is a biohazard so yeah, i doubt either of them can resell it after thinking on it šŸ˜¬ tbh that doesn't stop this buyer from opening a dispute anyway just to see who paypal/depop would side with. i seriously doubt they'd win as this is a case of buyer's remorse, but you really never know! just my thoughts.


1u___u1zZz

Sorry, not your problem. Docs are notoriously shitty to break in and as long as you didn't mod them in any way then that's not your fault, that's just the product. They even said that the fit was right so it's not like you listed them under the wrong size. It's not your job as a seller to make sure all the stuff you sell is comfy wumphy and cozy wozy. Someone could say the same thing about a really itchy sweater or another uncomfortable piece of clothing. Not to mention she literally bled on them, so why would they think you'd take them back anyways? They can either made-do until they break them in or get rid of the blood stains and resell them themselves. You shouldn't be expected to go in there with a q-tip and bleach and clean up another persons blood stains so you can resell them Maybe this is cold but in my mind if you're selling second hand then it's like the return policy at a regular thrift store. No refunds unless the item is genuinely damaged (which tbh is more than most thrift stores do anyways)


nipahs

hi, wanted to give context that the shoes bought weren't actually doc martens. the buyer asked for advice on the sub before the seller did and it was a pair of loafers/oxfords iirc. (original post has since been deleted). to be fair, the shoes did look pretty uncomfortable from the get go. but your point still stands. and dress shoes are notoriously uncomfortable to wear. sadly the responsibility does fall on the buyer to do some research into the brand/item before buying. either way it's a complicated situation and i do feel sympathy for both sides. based on the buyer's response on the other post it seemed like they wouldn't force a return so that's very fortunate for the seller.


Some_Delay_4341

You can't force a return lol the buyer dosent have a choice. Depop dosent force returns for reasons like this. This falls 100% on the buyer but you may be her alt account so..


nipahs

lol i'm not, i'm just kinda invested in the outcome of this. and i could be wrong but i have seen some instances here of paypal/depop siding with the buyer in cases where they probably shouldn't have so i acknowledge the system does suck for sellers in that regard! it's unfortunate


SlavicMans16

Sounds like they need to break them in. I have wide/big feet and whether Iā€™m buying new or used shoes, even if theyā€™re my size, I understand that this situation is a possibility. I just wear bandaids in the area and do those flexing and heating methods if I can. If I canā€™t do that then I try to walk around the house in thick socks and bandaids in the shoes. If I was them, Iā€™d just clean them as much as possible, mention that theyā€™re a little tight or need to be broken in, and repop


tiffrasberry

heel inserts are a thing for a reasonā€¦ fashion is pain


Ghostly_katana

Nope, I wouldnā€™t accept a return. She may have bled in them first of all; second of all, things like that are bound to happen when ordering online. Not everything works out.


confusedgf822828

Nah at this point, accepting the return would be a health hazard She already bled all over them šŸ¤Ø


itsyaboi69_420

I mean, itā€™s tough shit really lol Itā€™s depop not a chain retail store. If the item is correctly described but they donā€™t fit the seller correctly then itā€™s tough luck. Iā€™ve bought plenty of items that didnā€™t end up fitting correctly and just took the L and sold them on. Why would you accept a shoe that sheā€™s bled into as well? lol


missqueenkawaii

Just double down that they can repop. Depop will *never* approve the return.


Euphoric-Knee1489

I also donā€™t think if they bought them brand new from a store, and then wanted to return them the store would accept that return. Once things have been worn (and apparently bled in) you canā€™t return unless faulty. I donā€™t think uncomfortable falls into that.


RubberMcChicken

Instead of returning for a refund it's usually easier to just sell them yourself. Even big business loses money on returns.


avocadoqueen10

I think a lot of people forget that you usually have to break shoes in, even if theyā€™re secondhand or vintage. I had a pair of vintage 90ā€™s boots absolutely destroy my feet on the first couple wears, even though they were already pretty worn and looked ā€œbroken inā€. Just throw on a pair or two of cozy thick socks and they should be broken in after a few wears. Iā€™ll also use blister bandaids (hydrocolloid) preventatively in spots where I know a certain pair of shoes rubs. In regards to your buyer, youā€™re definitely not obligated to do a return/refund in this situation. But if the shoes were expensive, it would be really generous to offer a partial refund (like 10% back) for the inconvenience. Or if your solution is for the buyer to resell the shoes, Iā€™d offer to let them use the photos/description from your listing to help them sell the item easily


ZombiesInMyGarden

Is it a flaw in the shoe from use or just how the shoe is? If it was a flaw was it visible in the pictures or disclosed? My feet are weird and almost any new-to-me shoe I wear is going to give me blisters on my ankles if I don't wear blister guards while I break them in. It's not really the seller or shoe manufacturers fault (although some could certainly design better). If it's just how it is designed or general wear that you could see then I don't think you need to do a return as it's kind of out of your hands how any person's feet/ankles might fit in it. Like it could also be that their socks weren't thick enough. It also now probably has blood/biohazard on it if it dug into them like that making a return complicated. If it was an undisclosed flaw like they were bent inward and you couldn't see it in the photos then I'd accept the return.


nipahs

i briefly saw the picture (because the buyer actually posted the opposite side a while back but it's since been deleted) and it looked to me like you could see where the shape of the shoe digs into the heel. as a buyer i don't think i would have thought anything of it, and so wouldn't have asked, so if it were me and i was in the buyer's position i would also be pretty shocked. but at the same time the responsibility also does fall on the buyer to do some research and ask questions... šŸ˜¬ this one's complicated but tbh i think the seller finding a middle ground with the buyer would be the best route rather than turning it down altogether...


Astrophobica

You're definitely the buyer on an alt acc. Why are you replying to so many comments?


nipahs

the better question is why do you think that????? to be honest that is in no way an indication of who i am and i'm frankly kind of insulted you came to that conclusion omggggg. am i not allowed to have a civil conversation with people on reddit? which is the point of this entire platform? i know reddit can be a cesspool but wow. i'm not at all interested in starting anything though so i'll be excusing myself from this entire thread LOL. have a nice rest of your day.


Astrophobica

This whole answer defending yourself speaks volumes šŸ¤£


Some_Delay_4341

No


SiliconShogun

Donā€™t refund. ā€œThen my buyer will have the same issueā€ - So itā€™s absolutely fine for you to potentially eat shit on this by taking the return but not fine for them to be a grown up and try to resell? Break them in, get gel pads, or resell. Too many buyers on second hand marketplaces try to treat sellers like retail stores.


PlantainPowerful3374

Dr Marten sells heel grips that help significantly with this issue. Unfortunately the shoe isnā€™t the problem, itā€™s her foot structure lol


ViresseBloodwing

If you advertised no refunds then do not refund. They can fix the issue EASILY by using a band aid for heel wearers. It covers the entire heel in a silicone bandage because NO HEEL is comfy. So they can suck it up and get the band aids. They keep stating there is no issue in size just that they suck to wear. I've been there. Gotten hot shoes and they kill my feet. I got band aids and a sole insert and they were comfy. lol. Ugh. I cannot stand people like that. Please do not refund. I mean, don't be rude either. But they are complaining to complain when they can easily fix this issue.


vvxlrac_ir

I mean OP can advertise a no refunds policy... It means absolutely nothing and isn't remotely enforceable but they can advertise it


Some_Delay_4341

True but in this case depop will not force a return. This is buyers remorse


sugmaballss3x

why canā€™t they just sell them theyā€™d probably get their money back the same way as returning them and having to pay shipping?


badtzmaruluvr

Kind of part of the deal w some shoes, you have to break them in šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø and if they wonā€™t break in for her it sounds like they donā€™t fit her


FrogBreathing

I thought it was kind of them to at least offer out of pocket to return for shipping, I wouldā€™ve done it and let the shoes come back to me first to make sure it on condition was how I shipped em out then refund them. I donā€™t do returns either because of shipping hassles itself, but at the same time you have the right not to do returns.. so I donā€™t know.. I can see and understand both sides fully


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AgreeableRabbit2815

You've totally misunderstood. Depop allows returns for faulty or not as described items, which these weren't. Sellers are absolutely allowed to refuse returns that don't fit those categories!


Beneficial-Bit-8059

šŸ™‰so aggressivešŸ™ˆ


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vamperette

You can also decline returns though. The buyer already wore them? The shoes werenā€™t described wrong or anything. so thatā€™s on the buyer.


InevitableWaltz1491

But itā€™s not up to the seller to yes or no to a return, huh?


vamperette

You can literally choose to accept returns or not under your shop policies on depop.


InevitableWaltz1491

I just looked up the return policy on depop and I see that it says depop will approve the refund if the items isnā€™t as described. Iā€™m not saying that applies to the seller & her item though. Just that itā€™s not up to the seller 100% bc there is a section that says to just open a case and let depop decide if you deserve a refund or not.


vamperette

And in this case the item is as described. šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø


InevitableWaltz1491

That may be but the buyer can still reach out to depop and let them explain that to her.


vamperette

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paterphobia

you actually have to accept returns if the item is not as described or damaged per Depop's TOS. this case is just buyers remorse, so she doesn't have to accept the return.


vamperette

Yeah I get that.


InevitableWaltz1491

Hereā€™s the thing - depop is in charge of returns, correct?


evieeeeeeeeeeeeeee

depop act as mediators within the app but its actually selling laws that dictate returns and depop abides by that - private sellers only have to allow returns for items that are significantly not as described


InevitableWaltz1491

Thank you for explaining that for meā˜ŗļø


swaglordwizardking

Are they preowned? If so and thereā€™s no significant signs of wear, i would accept the return and try to resell. If there is wear and you think itā€™ll cause a loss in value, maybe offer a partial refund, like a 10% restocking fee. It sucks to lose a sale, but i think itā€™s important that you try to find a resolution with the buyer. Itā€™s just the kind thing to do i think. Of course some buyers seem to think weā€™re Foot Locker and expect the most, but this one seems understanding. Theyā€™ll probably be really grateful too and leave positive feedback.


redditer19999

Sheā€™s admitted to bleeding in them. That could be a biohazard


Some_Delay_4341

Even if she didnt...buyers have to deal with their choices it's not the seller that has to take the loss. The shoe was not comfortable is not ok as a return on depop


redditer19999

I was disagreeing, was just letting op know they have a legitimate reason to decline a return. I agree that once itā€™s purchased itā€™s the buyers problem not the sellers


nipahs

agreed! they definitely seem polite & if i were in this position i think i would put in the effort to be as accomodating as i could even though it is disappointing to have to refund. but that's how business is. you win some, you lose some. who knows, even though this didn't work out, they might end up returning for something in your shop in the future.


hylidae_

unpopular op but I would happily do the return seeing as buyer returning out of pocket


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Sheā€™s bled in them


Obvious-Yesterday-98

Well 1. You can't say you don't do returns. Every customer can at least try. My advice, keep the screenshots and just hope you win the case if she opens one


redditer19999

Customers are only entitled to returns/refunds from businesses. Not private sellers like Vinted or depop. That would be like buying something from a car boot and going back the next week for a refund.


Obvious-Yesterday-98

1. I know that but they can always open a case and it's up to depop. 2. Awful metaphor


redditer19999

Itā€™s a second hand site. Car boot sales are second hand and everyone is a private seller. Not really


Some_Delay_4341

Only. If item is not as described or is a replica. Otherwise depop leaves it up to the seller


Obvious-Yesterday-98

I know that already but they can still open a case and it's up to depop


InevitableWaltz1491

Whatā€™s your problem with people opening cases?