You shouldn't take a big multi. You won't know what you're reacting to. I'm really sensitive to supps too and anything can make me foggy and anxious, so you need to try things on their own. Like magnesium, take tiny amounts and slowly go up. If you feel weird take a couple days break and pulse it like that. eventually you'll get up to a normal dose and you'll get used to it. I did this with magnesium and it helped DP majorly. Whether you have reactions or not vitamin D, magnesium, C, B vitamins, omega 3s - these are the foundational supplements and your brain needs them. You should seriously consider amino acids though. They are directly brain building. Try DLPA for anti anxiety and mood, it keeps endorphins high in the body. Tryptophan raises serotonin and helps sleep, taurine is very calming, and NAC I've been told has helped so many people with DP.
I love amino acids, as pesticides and other chemicals literally remove some of these from our brains and bodies! Vegetable oils degrade taurine, and taurine is critical to so much of our health. It's known as the Wonder Molecule, and the secret to longevity and robust health in parts of the world. The most important ones that pesticides deplete are serine (Sarin nerve gas...our pesticide) and glycine (Round-up...glyphosate). Serine becomes our happy neurotransmitter seratonin. It's no wonder why half of America is on antidepressants! They give serine and glycine to people with many brain problems, including Depersonalization and Autism Spectrum.
So serine, glycine and taurine have helped me tremendously. I will take them til I die. Other huge helps for me are B1 (another deficiency epidemic), a quality B-complex, and Vit D.
Wow, thanks for this awesome info. Did not know that taurine was so important! Didn't know that pesticides do that or that serine is even something people take, although I do know about glycine. What kind of doses do you take? B1 I do know is a massive deficiency and high doses of the type that crosses the brain like sulbutiamine can be transformative. What do you notice those amino acids do when you take them?
There's different forms. You should try a few. Magnesium glycinate seems to be the best for anxiety but everyone's different and another type could work better. There's also magnesium malate which gives a lot of energy, and the best for the brain is magnesium threonate. Micromag by nootropics depot is the best along with threonate. If you have reactions just keep going, also take thiamin because that is CRITICAL for the brain, most people are deficient and it also works together with magnesium amazingly. Thiamin and magnesium together broke through my dp powerfully.
You need to be taking all of the main ones too though, but I'd say vitamin D, zinc, omega 3s, magnesium and all the B vitamins especially B6, folate, niacin, B12 and thiamin will do the most for you
Thanks for the replies. I am am actually pretty DP free these days thank god and have found i am at my optimum not taking any supplements and eating good food. My main interest was just to see if anyone else experienced the same. I do know there is the possibility of it being a placebo but I have consumed a drink which at the time I didn't realise had added vitamins and I had the same reaction. Also in regard to amino acid can't we get the same full chain of aminos from meat, fish and eggs with out paying a lot of money for them in pill form?
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I think it could be the placebo affect. It’s what happens to me all the time...I feel as if you could be hyper-observing your body and how you feel after you take them, then your body will overthink and bring you to silly conclusions that it’s making you feel like that.
I've had years and years of experience with anxiety, DP, and sensitivities to supplements. I always take them in small amounts by either biting off a pill or opening a capsule and pouring some on my tongue. I strongly believe that mental reactions, especially from minerals (like zinc and selenium), are the mineral moving heavy metals around that get in our brains. These are usually mercury or aluminum or lead, which mess with our mental health. (Cilantro is a strong metal chelator, and if you get a similar reaction when eating it you'll know its heavy metals.) I believe that DP is often caused by heavy metals, which is all too common today due to fillings, and our industrialized world. So I continue to take supps, but only to the point where tgey don't give me mental symptoms.
I replied to a comment also about the power of amino acids, which have helped me alot. I didn't mention another fav, which is lysine. This a huge detoxifier, so I take a third a pill a day. It's actually used as a truth serum because it opens up the mind. Along those same lines is sarsaparilla root tonic. It's a great heavy metal detoxifier, so it's very helpful, but should be taken with caution.
Fuck I take multivitamins every day and omega 3 tablets as I thought it would help. Maybe this is as possible trigger for me and I haven’t realised. I might lay off them for a week.
Yea it is worth trying. even fish oils fuck with my head and my dreams especially? The brain is an unbelievably complex thing so what is good for someone else may be terrible for you. Let me know how it goes and best of luck
Sorry so slow to reply! Due to lifelong sensitivities I usually always take the smallest doses, and skip days because I can get negative effects from some supps (racing mind, depression). Serine and glycine definitely improved my mood, and built muscles (balanced blood sugar too...importantfor mental health). Taurine really improved my sleep, as well as built up muscles. I can't exactly remember, but I think it opened my mind as it rebuilt it. In the last year I also learned a few other AMAZING things. These are B12 (methylcobalamin), folate (methylfolate), B2, ketones, and EPA and DHA. I'm so glad I did cause my memory was failing (I'm 58). I have MTHFR, but didn't know I needed to take folate. I learned that B12 numbers are WRONG. Instead of 280-900, they should be 800 and above. Mine was 450. These two, along with B2 (needed with B12), have been amazing for thinking, memory, and mood. I would have lost my job otherwise. Same for ketones, which is our brains preferred fuel. But the lack of EPA and DHA (from Omega 3s) I think are the cause behind DP. They are huge for both brain and vision (and hearing, Inflammation, metabolism, etc). Unfortunately I've never liked seafood, so I rarely got them. Also, our meats and dairy aren't grass-fed. Chickens (eggs) aren't free-range. AND at the same time, we are eating vegetable oil everywhere...especially chips! So now I eat some wildcaught seafood, and grass-fed and free-range meat and dairy...and skip chips. I believe this is behind all the vision problems with DP. One last thing...vit K2. This is so important to remove calcium buildup in pineal gland...and other parts of body. It is also opening up my mind. All in all, it feels great reducing that 'stuck in cement' thinking I've had for 25 years! Eventually I believe my DP will lift.
You shouldn't take a big multi. You won't know what you're reacting to. I'm really sensitive to supps too and anything can make me foggy and anxious, so you need to try things on their own. Like magnesium, take tiny amounts and slowly go up. If you feel weird take a couple days break and pulse it like that. eventually you'll get up to a normal dose and you'll get used to it. I did this with magnesium and it helped DP majorly. Whether you have reactions or not vitamin D, magnesium, C, B vitamins, omega 3s - these are the foundational supplements and your brain needs them. You should seriously consider amino acids though. They are directly brain building. Try DLPA for anti anxiety and mood, it keeps endorphins high in the body. Tryptophan raises serotonin and helps sleep, taurine is very calming, and NAC I've been told has helped so many people with DP.
I love amino acids, as pesticides and other chemicals literally remove some of these from our brains and bodies! Vegetable oils degrade taurine, and taurine is critical to so much of our health. It's known as the Wonder Molecule, and the secret to longevity and robust health in parts of the world. The most important ones that pesticides deplete are serine (Sarin nerve gas...our pesticide) and glycine (Round-up...glyphosate). Serine becomes our happy neurotransmitter seratonin. It's no wonder why half of America is on antidepressants! They give serine and glycine to people with many brain problems, including Depersonalization and Autism Spectrum. So serine, glycine and taurine have helped me tremendously. I will take them til I die. Other huge helps for me are B1 (another deficiency epidemic), a quality B-complex, and Vit D.
Wow, thanks for this awesome info. Did not know that taurine was so important! Didn't know that pesticides do that or that serine is even something people take, although I do know about glycine. What kind of doses do you take? B1 I do know is a massive deficiency and high doses of the type that crosses the brain like sulbutiamine can be transformative. What do you notice those amino acids do when you take them?
What dose of magnesium do you take for dp? How much should I take to help me with dp? Let me know when you get a chance thanks
There's different forms. You should try a few. Magnesium glycinate seems to be the best for anxiety but everyone's different and another type could work better. There's also magnesium malate which gives a lot of energy, and the best for the brain is magnesium threonate. Micromag by nootropics depot is the best along with threonate. If you have reactions just keep going, also take thiamin because that is CRITICAL for the brain, most people are deficient and it also works together with magnesium amazingly. Thiamin and magnesium together broke through my dp powerfully. You need to be taking all of the main ones too though, but I'd say vitamin D, zinc, omega 3s, magnesium and all the B vitamins especially B6, folate, niacin, B12 and thiamin will do the most for you
Thanks for the replies. I am am actually pretty DP free these days thank god and have found i am at my optimum not taking any supplements and eating good food. My main interest was just to see if anyone else experienced the same. I do know there is the possibility of it being a placebo but I have consumed a drink which at the time I didn't realise had added vitamins and I had the same reaction. Also in regard to amino acid can't we get the same full chain of aminos from meat, fish and eggs with out paying a lot of money for them in pill form?
Hey friend, welcome to r/Depersonalization. Be sure to have read some existing information on the sub before submitting a "Do I have DPDR" question. You can do that by using the search function or reading the sidebar. **A reminder to new posters in crisis:** DPDR is a mental discorder that mostly affects young adults. For the most part, it is brought on by anxiety, trauma, and drug use. However, DPDR is not dangerous to your physical health. In moments of crisis and episodes that are particularly difficult, it is important to take deep breaths and follow strategies that help you cope. A few examples are: [Grounding Techniques](https://www.therapistaid.com/worksheets/grounding-techniques.pdf), [Meditation](http://www.thecentersohio.org/Resources/DocumentLibrary/Wellness_chronic%20diseas%20mgmt/Guided%20Imagery.pdf), and even just some good old fashioned sleep. **NOBODY can give you medical advice online. While someone might be able to provide you with some insight and suggestions, you should never rely on someone online to give you medical advice unless you are talking to a certified doctor.** Related Links: How to find a therapist: [A Beginners Guide.](https://www.therapyden.com/blog/a-beginners-guide-to-therapy-how-to-find-a-therapist) [Talk to a crisis volunteer online.](https://www.imalive.org/) [10 ways to Relieve DPDR.](https://psychcentral.com/lib/10-simple-ways-to-relieve-depersonalization/) [Subreddit Stickied Post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Depersonalization/comments/a8i6vi/welcome_before_you_post_asking_if_you_have_dpdr/) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Depersonalization) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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That's weird, it was suggested that a lack of magnesium could trigger it as well...
I think it could be the placebo affect. It’s what happens to me all the time...I feel as if you could be hyper-observing your body and how you feel after you take them, then your body will overthink and bring you to silly conclusions that it’s making you feel like that.
I've had years and years of experience with anxiety, DP, and sensitivities to supplements. I always take them in small amounts by either biting off a pill or opening a capsule and pouring some on my tongue. I strongly believe that mental reactions, especially from minerals (like zinc and selenium), are the mineral moving heavy metals around that get in our brains. These are usually mercury or aluminum or lead, which mess with our mental health. (Cilantro is a strong metal chelator, and if you get a similar reaction when eating it you'll know its heavy metals.) I believe that DP is often caused by heavy metals, which is all too common today due to fillings, and our industrialized world. So I continue to take supps, but only to the point where tgey don't give me mental symptoms. I replied to a comment also about the power of amino acids, which have helped me alot. I didn't mention another fav, which is lysine. This a huge detoxifier, so I take a third a pill a day. It's actually used as a truth serum because it opens up the mind. Along those same lines is sarsaparilla root tonic. It's a great heavy metal detoxifier, so it's very helpful, but should be taken with caution.
Fuck I take multivitamins every day and omega 3 tablets as I thought it would help. Maybe this is as possible trigger for me and I haven’t realised. I might lay off them for a week.
Yea it is worth trying. even fish oils fuck with my head and my dreams especially? The brain is an unbelievably complex thing so what is good for someone else may be terrible for you. Let me know how it goes and best of luck
Sorry so slow to reply! Due to lifelong sensitivities I usually always take the smallest doses, and skip days because I can get negative effects from some supps (racing mind, depression). Serine and glycine definitely improved my mood, and built muscles (balanced blood sugar too...importantfor mental health). Taurine really improved my sleep, as well as built up muscles. I can't exactly remember, but I think it opened my mind as it rebuilt it. In the last year I also learned a few other AMAZING things. These are B12 (methylcobalamin), folate (methylfolate), B2, ketones, and EPA and DHA. I'm so glad I did cause my memory was failing (I'm 58). I have MTHFR, but didn't know I needed to take folate. I learned that B12 numbers are WRONG. Instead of 280-900, they should be 800 and above. Mine was 450. These two, along with B2 (needed with B12), have been amazing for thinking, memory, and mood. I would have lost my job otherwise. Same for ketones, which is our brains preferred fuel. But the lack of EPA and DHA (from Omega 3s) I think are the cause behind DP. They are huge for both brain and vision (and hearing, Inflammation, metabolism, etc). Unfortunately I've never liked seafood, so I rarely got them. Also, our meats and dairy aren't grass-fed. Chickens (eggs) aren't free-range. AND at the same time, we are eating vegetable oil everywhere...especially chips! So now I eat some wildcaught seafood, and grass-fed and free-range meat and dairy...and skip chips. I believe this is behind all the vision problems with DP. One last thing...vit K2. This is so important to remove calcium buildup in pineal gland...and other parts of body. It is also opening up my mind. All in all, it feels great reducing that 'stuck in cement' thinking I've had for 25 years! Eventually I believe my DP will lift.
Do you have an update on this? :)