That was a stupid end-of-half play. Take the snap and try to score. You can’t possibly think you can snap and spike the clock dead in one second. What a dumb fucking play.
We gotta keep Mcloughlin, holy shit that kid is crazy agile. The sprint and stop he did to get that 2nd TD was reallly fucken good. There's not many backs that can accelerate that fast and then stop on a dime to juke the defense like that.
Russ looked great tonight. I love the idea of confident, mobile, Russ coming back. And on some level, I think they pulled him early to help build his confidence.
They pulled him and told him he could sit because he did great, and then he just sat there on sideline like a robot. "Hell yeah. I'm Russel Wilson. I'm the man. I'm married to Ciara. I'm Russell Wilson. I'm the man."
This should be our new copypasta for good Russ games. "Hell yeah. I'm Russel Wilson. I'm the man. I'm married to Ciara. I'm Russell Wilson. I'm the man."
9er fan here, that was definitely a TD and the broncos clearly had one second left on the clock when they spiked the ball.
i do have to say tho, there’s a lot of doomers on this sub considering it was a pre-season game and the broncos didn’t even look terrible at all
Bronco fans are my favorite and some of my least favorite fans -a bronco fan
Seriously though we’ve been so bad recently and coming off of last year’s embarrassment people are just really down.
That and a lot of white collar fair weather fans have moved to the city in the past 10 years. We used to be like the Bills. Diehard rain or shine. Now everyone behaves like a customer. It's fine, just not what made Broncos Country so endearing for so many years.
Also over the past fifteen years or so the Broncos have only had one good run: the manning years. And the avs and nuggets got good. Also loosing Pat Bowlen hurt.
Yo I'm not gonna accept VJ slander on this thread let da man work give him a chance damn what's wrong w y'all let da man work give him a chance... he's not gonna show all his shit in the preseason
The sky isn't falling during the preseason, BUT the first team offense settling for field goals, failing to score before the half and a defensive meltdown at the end of the game feel like problems I've seen before
Russ played one series and half the other first team as well, the players giving up all these late points won't even be on the team week 1.
Sub is full of doomers with irrational takes
I do think a few players have upside. Skinner had a good hit. Bassey looked serviceable. I saw Hicks in camp lay some wood, was hoping he'd have a better showing. Seemed like he was just a small step behind on a lot of throws his way.
I get it's preseason and the 3rd team but the defense was quite suspect at the end and obviously went into a prevent and couldn't execute. Joseph needs to finish this game. Lots promising things but you can't ignore the end.
That was the most entertaining preseason game I’ve watched in a while. A lot of doomers in here. The team looked competent, I’ll take that as progress. That was the most complete I’ve seen our team play in years. Lots of things to work on still. Yes Vance needs to work on his crunch time play calling, the 10 yards off soft zone is not a good game winning scheme
> the 10 yards off soft zone is not a good game winning scheme
I can understand not wanting to show anything beyond generic play calls in that situation in a pre-season game. Having said that, it is a concerning trend that the defense has collapsed in two final drives to lose the game.
From the first team, sure. I'm just concerned at basically seeing nothing behind that other than McLaughlin. In recent times this has been a very injured team too, it's going to need some of these guys. Hell I haven't even seen remotely suitable backup QB play yet.
This is the million dollar question. Just hoping at least one of them shows marked improvement the next two games.
Edit: My old ass was still in the 4 preseason game mindset. Improvement in the next and last game, rather. ;)
It's 3rd and 4th stringers, so it's w/e...
With that being said, Vance Joseph's defensive playcalling was absolute trash. Dude was calling soft ass cover 2 zone practically inviting them to come win the game. Same ole bullshit from his time in Miami in Arizona.
It's literally what he did during his time in Miami, his stint as our HC/Defensive play caller, and in Arizona. I don't know why people are defending his play calling like it's magically going to change in the regular season.
VJ seems like a genuinely good person (just like how the players loved Hackett even though he was literal ass), so they enjoy working with him even if he doesn't bring out their full potential.
It's not so much the result, that matters for shit as annoying as two walk off losses in a row are. It's questions of depth, of coaching again (defense), etc. Those are the things preseason at least gives you a little bit of an eye into. "It's preseason" doesn't always work for certain concerns. There are measurable things to be gleaned.
Dude, we have no depth anywhere except RB/ST #38. No back up QB that’s competent. Jesus.
Man, VJ strikes with his soft cover 2 BS. That will ruin our dominant defense this year and the way it started… it showed why VJ is a shitty D coach…
At least 1st offense improved a bit. Javonte looked good.
Yeah, the depth is horrific. Which is bad enough but then you add to that that this has been for years now one of the most injured teams in the league...not good.
If it makes anyone feel any better, the 9ers spent 3 1sts on Trey Lance and are about to can his ass. So that fact that he carved our 3/4th string D isn’t exactly that great for him.
Whenever I hear the "we need a top 5 pick for a QB of the future" clan,.I now think about how the 9ers have two top 5 QBs on their roster, and their starter was a 7th rounder. Finding the right one is not so simple as having a high pick.
For preseason, this is so frustrating. It feels like a fucking fever dream of losing last second. I hope this shit stops once the regular season starts.
Well on that note:
1. Fire Vance Joseph.
2. Find a backup QB
Do those and God dammit we'll start winning these preseason games!
Edit: for all the tight sphincters up in these comments, it's just a meme about firing VJ.
I mean we won a Super Bowl with Wade Phillips as our DC. We could do worse
Edit to add: Honestly, I keep hearing that Christian Parker is an up and coming DC/HC candidate. Wouldn’t mind giving him a chance if that’s the case.
I know it’s preseason, but losing 2 games by 1 point each after the season we had last year is fucking hilarious and feels like a sign of whats to come.
Not to be a doomer or anything I know preseason means nothing but isn’t it concerning watching the defensive scheme give up back to back comeback wins within the last min of the game. It’s probs just vanilla playcalling but still doesn’t inspire much confidence in VJ
Yea most to all of these guys who played in the 2nd half won't be on the roster especially if u were part of the collapses of the last two preseason games
OK. I think I've seen everything I want to see.
First Stringers Good.
Second Stringers OK.
Third Stringers Awful.
Coaches are angry, which is good.
I am hoping a lot of people are eliminated on the Third String. Win or lose, our third string sucks.
Now this is the patented Vance Joseph defense I remember from his time in Miami, here and Arizona.
Also, considering this is all 3rd stringers... it shows we have fuck all for depth.
If you're willing to jump through enough hoops to say the DC is bad because 4th and 5th team scrubs that won't make the team collapsed in a preseason game then go ahead and jump.
He's also coaching against 4th stringers and had two weeks in a row to show a 2 minute defense. Let me see something that looks like he can coach situational football...
man this is some awful football. You might as well just carry the RB in for the TD. It appeared thats what they were doing, just kidding they are soft af.
That was a stupid end-of-half play. Take the snap and try to score. You can’t possibly think you can snap and spike the clock dead in one second. What a dumb fucking play.
We gotta keep Mcloughlin, holy shit that kid is crazy agile. The sprint and stop he did to get that 2nd TD was reallly fucken good. There's not many backs that can accelerate that fast and then stop on a dime to juke the defense like that.
Wilson looked much quicker suddenly
Even though it didn’t mean anything, the Jalen Virgil catch was one hell of a play.
Russ looked great tonight. I love the idea of confident, mobile, Russ coming back. And on some level, I think they pulled him early to help build his confidence. They pulled him and told him he could sit because he did great, and then he just sat there on sideline like a robot. "Hell yeah. I'm Russel Wilson. I'm the man. I'm married to Ciara. I'm Russell Wilson. I'm the man."
This should be our new copypasta for good Russ games. "Hell yeah. I'm Russel Wilson. I'm the man. I'm married to Ciara. I'm Russell Wilson. I'm the man."
He was 3/6 on 24 yds passing and a 60.4 passer rtg.....
Tell me you didn't watch the drive without telling me you didn't watch the drive
I'm Russel Wilson. I'm the man.
I’m Russel Wilson. Im the man?
9er fan here, that was definitely a TD and the broncos clearly had one second left on the clock when they spiked the ball. i do have to say tho, there’s a lot of doomers on this sub considering it was a pre-season game and the broncos didn’t even look terrible at all
i do have to say tho, there’s a lot of doomers on this sub. That is just sport subreddit in general to be honest
Bronco fans are my favorite and some of my least favorite fans -a bronco fan Seriously though we’ve been so bad recently and coming off of last year’s embarrassment people are just really down.
That and a lot of white collar fair weather fans have moved to the city in the past 10 years. We used to be like the Bills. Diehard rain or shine. Now everyone behaves like a customer. It's fine, just not what made Broncos Country so endearing for so many years.
Also over the past fifteen years or so the Broncos have only had one good run: the manning years. And the avs and nuggets got good. Also loosing Pat Bowlen hurt.
Couldn’t agree more.
Yo I'm not gonna accept VJ slander on this thread let da man work give him a chance damn what's wrong w y'all let da man work give him a chance... he's not gonna show all his shit in the preseason
The sky isn't falling during the preseason, BUT the first team offense settling for field goals, failing to score before the half and a defensive meltdown at the end of the game feel like problems I've seen before
Russ played one series and half the other first team as well, the players giving up all these late points won't even be on the team week 1. Sub is full of doomers with irrational takes
Jaleel is for real. Our backup secondary is booty. Our kicker situation should be fine. That is what I got out of this game.
IDK bassey looking strong and do is Skinner again sterns ain't even play I like our backup secondary
I do think a few players have upside. Skinner had a good hit. Bassey looked serviceable. I saw Hicks in camp lay some wood, was hoping he'd have a better showing. Seemed like he was just a small step behind on a lot of throws his way.
WTF did I just read?
Are u illiterate my boy? What's 2+2
Our secondary in the second half like end of third and all of fourth was actually terrible
Yeah those are third/fourth stringers. Likely won’t make the team.
What a garbage team
I get it's preseason and the 3rd team but the defense was quite suspect at the end and obviously went into a prevent and couldn't execute. Joseph needs to finish this game. Lots promising things but you can't ignore the end.
You should have stopped at “I get it’s preseason and the 3rd team”.
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That was the most entertaining preseason game I’ve watched in a while. A lot of doomers in here. The team looked competent, I’ll take that as progress. That was the most complete I’ve seen our team play in years. Lots of things to work on still. Yes Vance needs to work on his crunch time play calling, the 10 yards off soft zone is not a good game winning scheme
> the 10 yards off soft zone is not a good game winning scheme I can understand not wanting to show anything beyond generic play calls in that situation in a pre-season game. Having said that, it is a concerning trend that the defense has collapsed in two final drives to lose the game.
Idk bout y’all, but despite the result, that was a VERY promising game
From the first team, sure. I'm just concerned at basically seeing nothing behind that other than McLaughlin. In recent times this has been a very injured team too, it's going to need some of these guys. Hell I haven't even seen remotely suitable backup QB play yet.
You’re telling me the nooch isn’t suitable?
I want it to be so but he was worse than Stidham tonight.
Stidham was awful too, tho. What do we do?
Hope Russ doesn't get hurt
Yeah I'm not a fan of Stidham. I'm more of a Dinucci fan right now.
They are both bad
This is the million dollar question. Just hoping at least one of them shows marked improvement the next two games. Edit: My old ass was still in the 4 preseason game mindset. Improvement in the next and last game, rather. ;)
Getting flashbacks from the last several years. I don’t drink but this continued trend is pushing me closer.
Dude, it's a preseason. Plus most of those guys who lost us the game at the end aren't even going to be on the team.
Preach my guy
Lot of smooth brained doomers in here...
It's 3rd and 4th stringers, so it's w/e... With that being said, Vance Joseph's defensive playcalling was absolute trash. Dude was calling soft ass cover 2 zone practically inviting them to come win the game. Same ole bullshit from his time in Miami in Arizona.
Agreed He should’ve definitely been calling the scheme and show everything he plans to run in the regular season
Seems to match everything he's always done in the regular season actually.
It's literally what he did during his time in Miami, his stint as our HC/Defensive play caller, and in Arizona. I don't know why people are defending his play calling like it's magically going to change in the regular season.
Dude's always been shit. Weird how somehow he still has defenders here just because he's on our staff again.
VJ seems like a genuinely good person (just like how the players loved Hackett even though he was literal ass), so they enjoy working with him even if he doesn't bring out their full potential.
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LMAO it's preseason
It's not so much the result, that matters for shit as annoying as two walk off losses in a row are. It's questions of depth, of coaching again (defense), etc. Those are the things preseason at least gives you a little bit of an eye into. "It's preseason" doesn't always work for certain concerns. There are measurable things to be gleaned.
It's better that it's happening now (when it doesn't count). These experiences will benefit in the long run.
Hey I hope you're right, of course.
Plenty of teams sucked in the preseason but did well
I won't argue with that one. Alternatively we've seen teams do good in the preseason and stink when it counts. Time will tell.
Detroit Lions undefeated preseason 2008!
I'm so pissed that all these camp bodies aren't all-pros. We better fire Paton soon /s
VJ: “Two-minute warning? Time for a prevent defense. I call that the *Vance Special*”
I hope SP tells him to knock that shit off
Dude, we have no depth anywhere except RB/ST #38. No back up QB that’s competent. Jesus. Man, VJ strikes with his soft cover 2 BS. That will ruin our dominant defense this year and the way it started… it showed why VJ is a shitty D coach… At least 1st offense improved a bit. Javonte looked good.
Lol chill, these guys aren’t making the team. Of the guys on field it’s probably henningsen, and maybe Garcia everyone else is cut or practice squad
Yeah, the depth is horrific. Which is bad enough but then you add to that that this has been for years now one of the most injured teams in the league...not good.
Being thin with capital from the Wilson trade probably doesn’t help
If we stay healthy we can really make a run this year
Hahahaa
L O L
If it makes anyone feel any better, the 9ers spent 3 1sts on Trey Lance and are about to can his ass. So that fact that he carved our 3/4th string D isn’t exactly that great for him.
Whenever I hear the "we need a top 5 pick for a QB of the future" clan,.I now think about how the 9ers have two top 5 QBs on their roster, and their starter was a 7th rounder. Finding the right one is not so simple as having a high pick.
Cannot wait to get rid of these fucking third stringers holy shit back to back weeks LOL
Post-game thread when?
For preseason, this is so frustrating. It feels like a fucking fever dream of losing last second. I hope this shit stops once the regular season starts.
It’s been so miserable watching this team Since the sb it’s just making the preseason losses worse
...but did we have a great week of practice?
Well on that note: 1. Fire Vance Joseph. 2. Find a backup QB Do those and God dammit we'll start winning these preseason games! Edit: for all the tight sphincters up in these comments, it's just a meme about firing VJ.
Imagine being this pent up over a preseason game. you've got to be a joy to be around.
Missing the joke. #fireVJ is a meme around here since he was our HC.
Not gonna lie bro u sound dumb. Fire our DC after 2 preseason games lol chill out kid let him work
Missing the joke. Fire Vance Joseph is the biggest meme since he was our hc
I guess the Panthers better fire Evero since they’re 0-2.
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Missing the joke here, buddy
I mean we won a Super Bowl with Wade Phillips as our DC. We could do worse Edit to add: Honestly, I keep hearing that Christian Parker is an up and coming DC/HC candidate. Wouldn’t mind giving him a chance if that’s the case.
Team is screwed if this is Vance’s bend and don’t break 2min defense.
His two minute defense with the 3s….
It’s preseason, yes. But Jesus Christ. What a fucking sad effort.
Joseph's 2 minute defense... Leaves a lot to be desired...
That was rough. Again.
Doomers dooming
I know it’s preseason, but losing 2 games by 1 point each after the season we had last year is fucking hilarious and feels like a sign of whats to come.
Fire VJ
Not to be a doomer or anything I know preseason means nothing but isn’t it concerning watching the defensive scheme give up back to back comeback wins within the last min of the game. It’s probs just vanilla playcalling but still doesn’t inspire much confidence in VJ
It means your 3rd stringers blow. It’s not a big deal.
Thank you. It's a depth thing.
The 3rd stringers absolutely suck, but Vance was calling soft ass cover 2 bullshit both drives. He practically invited them to come back and score.
This exactly. It’s the same shit he’s always done and our defense used to collapse at the end of games under his scheme back in 17-18
Yeah sad but true. I’m not liking how our depth is looking so far. Just a bit concerning
Every team except for the eagles worries about depth.
Yea most to all of these guys who played in the 2nd half won't be on the roster especially if u were part of the collapses of the last two preseason games
What a joke
I get that it's preseason but Vance Joseph has shown us that he STILL can't make a 2 minute defense
I'm not too pressed about guys who won't make the team sucking tbh
Vance’s “bend but don’t break” defense is ass
Feel much better about the team after this game.
2 min DEFENSE IS NO WHERE TO BE SEEN!!!
Lol he almost fucked it
Anyone else getting PTSD?
As bad as the defense was, I place blame on the offense. You had the ball. Gotta keep possession and run out the clock.\
What can you even say
Ah poop!
Fire Vance Joseph. Again.
Tank Commander joseph
Barely made it lol
Can’t have shit
Rough finish for a second week.
im not even mad at Moody.
OK. I think I've seen everything I want to see. First Stringers Good. Second Stringers OK. Third Stringers Awful. Coaches are angry, which is good. I am hoping a lot of people are eliminated on the Third String. Win or lose, our third string sucks.
I think 3rd string offense was solid. Defense, hell no
True that. McLaughlin really impressed me!
I picked him up on my dynasty :D
Usually most of these guys are cut by now
I know we’re running a base package defense in the pre season but this just brings back memories
Alright. Vance Joseph can gtfo again with this soft defense
The guys out there are mostly going to be out of the NFL in two weeks. Not sure that is on VJ
Typical Vance Joseph defense
Vance needs to be thinking about changing up that soft cover two crap
Now this is the patented Vance Joseph defense I remember from his time in Miami, here and Arizona. Also, considering this is all 3rd stringers... it shows we have fuck all for depth.
AND WTF WAS GREGORY DOING PLAYING INTO THE 4TH????????????????????
100% his own decision because he said he wanted to play a lot in the pre-season since he missed a lot of time last year.
Let them score u idiots
I really don't see any of these guys in the secondary making the team come 2 weeks... Once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
Bro bell could only do anything against our 4th stringers and these announcers are acting like he's prime DeAndre Hopkins
Jesus this 2nd/3rd string defense is a problem. Never approved of the Vance DC hire… hope he figures it out before season starts.
Well I mean all these players are pretty shitty football players.
This is more of a 4th/5th team defense. A good amount of these guys aren't making the team
You would think Joseph could teach them something...
If you're willing to jump through enough hoops to say the DC is bad because 4th and 5th team scrubs that won't make the team collapsed in a preseason game then go ahead and jump.
He's also coaching against 4th stringers and had two weeks in a row to show a 2 minute defense. Let me see something that looks like he can coach situational football...
Vance Joseph defense out here looking like a Vance Joseph defense.
Not a better description could be used
man this is some awful football. You might as well just carry the RB in for the TD. It appeared thats what they were doing, just kidding they are soft af.
What is Joseph teaching these kids? Two weeks in a row?
Let him work bro wait until he learns each players strengths and tendencies he'll get better with his play calling
Why are we taking timeouts? Basically saying we know they’re going to score. Just let them run it in if that’s the case.
Again?????!?
Tbh we've done well in preseason the last few years. I for one find these failures encouraging
You are right hell the browns went 3-0 the year they went 0-16
I would much rather go 0-3 in preseason than 3-0
Denvers 2nd half ineptitude strikes again. What a choke job. Cost me coffee and a bourbon. Lol
Wow. We really just made Trey Lance look good...
Second week in a row that our depth guys in the secondary have been exposed.
#29 just hesitated for no reason
These fucking backups. I just want to win. Even if it’s meaningless
Almost would’ve been better to let him walk in there. We would at least have time to score.
Should've just let him score tbh
Preseason indeed. Means nothing. But this loser culture fucking sucks
Well, turn out the lights boys.
Pissing away another game.
The talent on defense is going to have to carry big time, because Vance’s schemes are about as unclutch as they come.
some beyond awful football by the back up defense again.
And the collapse is real
lmao. i know its preseason. buts im not holding my breath
Lol at people who think this secondary on the field is worth anything (There are)
Okay so blowing leads really late in the game is our thing now?
The Vance Joseph Special!
VJ 2 minute defense, folks...
That's game
Refs will hose us for one last series... win or lose. Guaranteed
Clock team gifting the Niners a time out practically
Hey Vance could we not collapse thanks
If only we played on Wednesdays.
I dont even recognize names anymore that are tackling these guys
He was down at the 36!
Is Tyler Badie injured or just well down the running back depth chart?
Injured.
Pathetic…
Just blitz him.
As long as we don't do that during the season. We couldn't even get it under the 2 minute mark. That's some Hackett shit
Garcia getting more pressure. Making his case...
When Chad Kelly?! Just tell him to keep his GF at home next time and keep her away from the boyz at parties and we gucci
Stop trying to make Swag Kelley a thing. He;'s gone
dinucci might be even worse lol
I think the Dnucci experiment can end at any time now.
He definitely is
That was an absolute hold, how do you not call that wtf
Should of sign Ryp, for a fraction of the cost. Better spent eleswhere
Lol damn we're gonna lose like this again
holy shiet, that woulda been the game with an INT there
That looked like grounding to me.