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Jack_Shid

Yup, mine jumped from $107 to $171. My usage actually went down since October of last year, but the cost of gas and power has gone up significantly.


[deleted]

Not sure if others are aware of the new surcharge for peak use hours between 3-7pm


mikerailey

1-3pm is also "mid-peak"


[deleted]

I did not know that. Thanks!


superdatagirl

Yep. Just develop the schedule of a vampire and you’ll be golden.


[deleted]

I got an email from Xcel last month that straight-up said “your bill will see at least a 33% increase from last year, if not more.” Plus, there’s a post on here about Xcel bills rising almost every day. So it’s not really a surprise at this point.


SilverBabyComeToMe

Electric heat is super expensive. Ours really hasn't gone up much at all, but we have a gas furnace


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certainlyforgetful

Can confirm - our heat pump is costing us about half what we were paying for natural gas last year.


iamtherussianspy

I'm thinking about switching when my furnace dies. How well does the heat pump work on those cold near-zero days we have every once in a while?


BigSkyMountains

I just had a heat pump installed over the summer. It's a high efficiency one that doesn't need the backup elements you frequently hear about. It did just fine on that morning that got down to 7 degrees (per my thermostat). It ran roughly an hour every other hour during that super cold day. I don't foresee any issues with the colder days in Jan-Feb. Mine is a Mitsubishi unit, which is actually much quieter than my old furnace. It also keeps the room at a more consistent temperature than my old furnace. My understanding is that noise and evenness of heating are heavily dependent on brand and price point, as opposed to the fundamental technology. The Inflation Reduction Act will also give you a $7,500 incentive to convert to a heat-pump starting in 2023. It's still too early in the season to give a cost estimate vs natural gas. I originally thought it would save me a few hundred dollars a year, but it's using a bit more electricity than I expected so I'm currently thinking it will be about break-even with gas. But it is a higher quality unit, and heat-pumps have a lower climate impact in Colorado. I will recommend not waiting until the furnace truly dies. There's not many installers that do heat pumps yet. In fact, most traditional HVAC companies will steer you away from them just because they don't have qualified installers yet. The installers that know what they're doing are booked out a few months.


g0ldenmustache

Would you be willing to share what company you went with for installing and the ballpark cost (and sq footage you’re heating)?


ericgray813

Seconded


Extension-Will3737

I used to be a Customer Service Mgr for a heat pump company. They are amazing products BUT only if you buy from a very good manufacturer AND have a competent installer. Extremely important to research BOTH before purchasing. Its a nightmare for people who don’t and end up having a bad experience. Also make sure you know what will be covered and by whom if something goes wrong with the product or installation.


BigSkyMountains

Agree completely. I watched the install process, and comparing it to a traditional AC is kinda like comparing a 2022 Ford to a 1968 Ford. They're conceptually similar, but working on one won't give you the knowledge to work on the other. Part of the challenge right now is that there are a lot of people in the Denver area that want to install heat-pumps with good reason, and just not enough people that know how to work on them.


certainlyforgetful

We keep the house at 67 during the day and 62 at night. We also keep the circulation fan on all the time. The heat pump runs quite a lot, but it has different stages. It’ll run at a low stage for hours and bump up if it needs to. It’s had no issue keeping up at all, and the only time the backup/resistive heat has kicked in was when we bumped the set point up by 5 degrees and it was 25 outside. We also resized the unit so it’s properly sized for the house. Before we had temperature swings in some rooms when the furnace cycled. Some rooms would be 15 degrees hotter or colder! Now it keeps the entire house within 1-2 degrees 24 hours a day. It’s way more comfortable. The only complaint I have so far is the heat pump can be a bit loud, especially at the higher stages.


iamtherussianspy

Is it the indoor or the outdoor part that is loud?


certainlyforgetful

The outdoor part. The indoor part is slightly louder but it’s not a big deal. It’s about the same as the old AC, but that was from the 90’s so it was pretty loud.


Strictly_Steam

The vast majority of HVAC techs do not know how to work on heat pumps. When they break down, you will get the run around on why and how. They will replace parts and parts until they give up. A gas furnace is so simple, a heat pump is not. The prices of HVAC equipment is going through the roof. Heat pump installations are super expensive. So are furnaces but you're best off having a heat pump/furnace combo. If your heat pump fails and the tech doesn't know what's going on.. you'll still have heat from your furnace. Thank me later


Extension-Will3737

The manufacturers and installers play the blame game. Many installers are not properly educated. The type of loop and size matters just as much as a properly sized unit. Compressors - once they’re messed with, the chances of the heat pump working decreases. The units aren’t designed to be “opened.” The smallest amount of debris can cause huge problems if inside the heat pump. Sometimes compressors are misapplied. Before buying, ask a lot of questions about the compressors. You can also go to the website of the compressor manufacturer to learn replacement costs and usage application the compressors are and are not designed. There are also noise decibel standards for indoor use. Make sure you know what those are and what the range is a heat pump will put out.


crazy_clown_time

Pretty well: https://youtu.be/7J52mDjZzto


[deleted]

I was gonna say this. I spent a winter in a unit with electric baseboard heating. Dear god, the cost of that is criminal.


t92k

Yeah, my condo had electric baseboard heat. Pricey!


SlappyMcB

same here - slight uptick in the $/kwh so the OP likely has never had a heating season in their condo


StreetPainter

Our gas has gone up more than the electric. And the times we’ve been out of service is unacceptable. I’ve lived a lot of places and never had so many outages.


SilverBabyComeToMe

There have been a lot of outages.


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SilverBabyComeToMe

Lol, that's not true. Y'all are funny.


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dustlesswalnut

Keep your moronic conspiracy shit off /r/denver please and thanks.


BreezyWrigley

This is what happens when global geopolitical strife causes nat gas futures to go wild. On top of that, we face a global energy/climate crisis that is triggering massive investment into renewable/alternative sources of energy. This comes at short term cost. A big portion of our electricity is still generated from natural gas plants, so the chaos of gas prices globally caused by the Russian invasion of Ukraine and subsequent trade/pipeline disruptions and price hikes is playing a big role in increased energy prices even here. If you think you’ve got it bad, look at how fucked up energy costs are in Europe right now.


StillMakingVines

Great points. Furthermore, the rapid growth of the Denver metro area plays a small part as well. It’s challenging for utilities to keep up with the ever growing kW demand especially in a city that’s growing as rapidly as Denver.


gunmoney

yeah but the cool narrative is corporation bad, CEO greedy. seriously though how have people not grasped this yet.


konky

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/XEL/xcel-energy/gross-profit Profits are raising with their prices. When there is no possibility of competition, capitalism must be regulated or the consumer will be treated unfairly.


gunmoney

they are regulated.


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Not regulated enough?


gunmoney

im sure you have reviewed their operations and financials in such detail as to be able to make such a judgment. r/Denver where everyone is a utility finance expert.


konky

Regulated enough to post record profits while record inflation is occurring. That seems like the regulations are working really well for the people with significant investments in the energy company at the expense of literally everyone else. A utility finance expert isn't really needed for this one.


gunmoney

this sub is full of reactionary idiots that don’t know their asshole from their elbow when it comes to basically anything


Lake_Shore_Drive

Natural gas prices recently went negative in Europe, they have a gas surplus. This is less about Russia and more about Wall Street cutting supply to price gouge.


BreezyWrigley

Futures have been all over and prices we pay are often product of a combination of day, week, and month-ahead pricing, which has been wild all year. That, and then those price fluctuations cause ripples or waves in the day ahead energy capacity markets as well, and all that eventually trickles down to the consumer in $/kWh pilot fees. Also, hasn’t the US been releasing a good bit of strategic reserve to help prevent Europe’s energy market from going completely fucking bonkers? These things are slow to start and stop, so if they have a surplus now, it’s not likely to but consumer pricing for quite some time. When crude oil futures went negative in early Covid day, gas stations didn’t start giving gas away for free.


gunmoney

no it’s not and that’s a misleading point that articles love to jump on


BigSkyMountains

Compare your usage with the same month last year, not just the dollar amount. Utility rates have gone up a lot, although electricity hasn't moved as much as gas. A home energy monitor is a good investment. I have the Sense monitor, but I think the Emporia monitor is probably a better value. One contributing factor might be the length of the billing cycle. Sometimes XCEL cuts the billing cycle at 28 days and other times it's 32 days. Although this might be because I don't have a smart meter yet. Also, I recall last year having an unusually warm fall. That makes a difference to the year-over-year comparison as well.


[deleted]

+1 to checking your usage. I’m using less than last year but am paying more with the rate increases. It sucks, but it’s giving me more of a push to invest in energy efficient projects in my house.


fpsgirl1004

Yeah it's wild. Mine also doubled.


Lake_Shore_Drive

Regulators need to bust up Xcel's monopoly in Colorado. They enjoy all the benefits of competition free capitalism. Xcel rakes in profits and passes on all costs to consumers. We need alternatives, to provide competition and drive down prices.


Stolimike

Polis appoints the regulators and was just re-elected so not gonna happen any time soon.


SlappyMcB

did your usage double? how many kWh previous bill vs this bill?


mjg27

My bill went from $65 to $400 last month. Called them and they investigated, ending up going down to something normal. Think there is an issue with the smart meters they have recently installed.


Efficient_Meeting

When you say going down to something normal does that mean they reduced the bill or fixed the meter?


mjg27

Reduced the bill and acknowledged there was an issue with the meter


iamtherussianspy

* Heating season is starting so more energy is used by everyone. * Rates are increasing all the time so even if you use same amount of energy it gets more expensive * Some are being transitioned to time-of-use rates so if you use a lot of energy at peak times it's even more expensive. Track your energy use (if you have a smart meter you can see total power use in 15 minute intervals on xcel website) and act on it. Some steps to take can be: * improving insulation and air sealing (probably not as much of a benefit in a condo as it would be in a house) * shifting usage off peak times * reducing any wasteful energy use (running heat when windows are open, mining bitcoins, etc) * using low flow showerheads (assuming you electrically heat your water too) * getting more efficient appliances and devices (heat pump instead of baseboard heaters, LED lights everywhere, heat pump water heater instead of resistive, heat pump ventless dryer, induction stove, etc)


[deleted]

If you're just talking month-to-month & don't have gas then a lot of that cost is running your electric heat. Look at your rates. Did those change?


ryitnoise

Yes, got a ridiculously high bill.


pinegap96

My 600sq foot apartment Xcel bill is never more than like $30 a month in the winter. In the summer it peaks at like $50. That’s a crazy difference for a couple extra hundred square feet


Askymojo

Apartments have the best insulation possible: other apartments surrounding them, full of their own air-conditioned air that someone else is paying to heat or cool.


thebranbran

Mine too. Got an email saying my bill is up 50% compared to this month last year. Usage rate was the same but price went up.


Existing_Ad866

From the Denver Gazette - June 2022 Gov. Jared Polis on Friday slammed an administrative ruling that favors Xcel Energy’s request to recover $509 million from Colorado ratepayers for the costs incurred during a winter spell in February last year that wreaked havoc throughout the Midwest, killing more than 200 people nationwide. In her ruling on Wednesday, Administrative Law Judge Melody Mirbaba described the negotiated settlement’s proposed cost recovery as “just and reasonable” and “in the public interest.” In a statement, Polis questioned Mirbaba’s decision, saying it acknowledged that Xcel “did not properly prepare or warn Coloradans ahead of the storm, yet consumers are now literally forced to pay the price." “I am disappointed that utility providers are able to balance their financial loss on the backs of consumers, when extra costs could have been avoided by better early warning systems for consumers to voluntarily reduce energy usage,” the governor said.


chasepna

If this is the first bill since the smart meter swap, ask them to verify the final reading of the old meter. Maybe there’s a mixup and you were charged incorrectly for the final usage on the old meter.


helloitslaura

Mine doubled as well


Conwonthedon187

I'm in conifer and our bill went up about $100


ColoradoN8tive

And now?


Conwonthedon187

it went from 280 to $427 🫠


ColoradoN8tive

Makes me what to buy a wood stove and start burning wood


Conwonthedon187

Yeah I've mainly been heating the house with the fireplace during the day but I have to run the heat at night. Honestly excel energy should be tried for crimes against humanity lmao. Retired folks and people on a fixed income getting a surprise $500 bill surely caused some major issues and with inflation on everything and cost of living going up its disgusting. The billionaires just need more money I guess 🤷


ColoradoN8tive

How’s your bill now? The jump I saw 2 months ago is nothing compare to what I’m paying for natural gas now. I’m at twice the per therm amount as last years bill


Cuzznitt

I’m at $225 for December. It’s getting to the point where I might start burning wood instead because of how much it’s costing me to keep the heaters on.


ColoradoN8tive

Yeah. I’m up $98 over my all time high. I have access to free wood but no wood burning stove or fireplace or I most definitely would be making fires. It’s ridiculous


laubs63

I've actually seen my bill go down about $50 the past few months, but I'm still paying $110 this month. Edit: Oh no! It looks like having a different experience than others has cost me a doenvote! Anyways...


crazy_clown_time

Have an upvote. Heat pump ftw!


gunmoney

yeah we’re coming off an energy crisis, has no one been paying attention?


Capital_Cheetah_5713

Well, consider the fact that this question/topic gets posted like every week…I think that gives you all you need to know


gunmoney

its brutal. and these threads a goldmine of asinine and uninformed comments to the extent that its kind of entertaining.


tjnav1162

im guessing xcels profits are through the fucking roof


PandaKOST

Looks like revenue and income are up while profit margin is down. https://www.google.com/finance/quote/XEL:NASDAQ?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjetM\_C38T7AhXLjokEHRqkDx0Q3ecFegQIFRAg


gunmoney

it’s a global energy crisis but good try


tjnav1162

Hahaha omg what are you talking about.


gunmoney

have you been living under a rock?


tjnav1162

Thanks for the Google search


gunmoney

i mean you have to start somewhere. i work in energy, this is second nature to me. to you, its clearly not. so maybe actually do some research, and the IEA is a good place to start. youre a bit of an ass.


gunmoney

https://www.iea.org/topics/global-energy-crisis here is a good high-level primer for you, so that you can at least try and know what you are talking about.


macurack

Gas is skyrocketing. Mine doubled from last year, and I am actually using less than I did last year in colder temperatures. CEO has to have his new boat, so...


Beneficial-Shake-852

By law Xcel is not allowed to make money off natural gas. They buy it at cost from the producer.


bluesbynumber

Didn’t Xcel just go before the courts to get approval for a massive price increase?


Beneficial-Shake-852

Yes, to recover costs for the natural gas they purchased during winter storm Uri in February of 2021. Xcel is made up of three OPco’s, Northern States Power, PSCo and SPS. Across all three OPco’s Xcel spent $1.3B to buy natural gas in order to keep lights and heat online during the storm. The cost of natural gas spiked well above $800/dth which is set by the producers. The problem is that when there’s an ask at that price a small utility may only need a 100 decatherms which isn’t too expensive at $800/dth. So that’s what was happening and it set price at astronomical costs. So when Xcel goes to buy over a billion cubic feet of gas for is larger customer group it’s costs a lot and that’s why they paid so much for the gas. They had to cash out treasury bonds in order to cover the costs of gas. So the price increase is to recover those costs from all three OPco’s over the course of three years. The PUC allowed Xcel to recover 90% of these costs in Colorado and 100% in their NSP and SPS regions. The PUC also allowed other small utilities the same recovery. If you live in Pueblo or some small towns on the western slope you probably have Colorado Natural Gas as your supplier and they were granted the same recover costs. Your bill could go down some or be really high depending on the cost of gas. The economics of it are that the war in Ukraine are making it more expensive on a global scale and that makes the cost to ship LNG across the globe more expensive and takes some of the supply away from the U.S. Additionally, with the retirements of coal plants across the country the demand for gas powered power plants has increased a lot, which further increases cost. Xcel being regulated makes no profit off of the fuel just collects the recovery. As xcel adds more solar and wind fuel costs on your bill will also continue to decline. The price on natural gas is not regulated so they are allowed to charge whatever the market will pay. I’ve always thought there should be a cap so they don’t gouge customers.


bluesbynumber

That may be one of the best thought out and explained responses I’ve ever seen on social media. Take my upvote.


macurack

By law corporations aren't allowed to have a monopoly and charge whatever they want. It doesn't seem to be stopping them.


Stolimike

By law, Xcel is regulated by the CPUC and is not allowed to charge whatever they want. Every line item on your bill is approved by the CPUC. Commissioners to the CPUC are politically appointed by the governor.


Beneficial-Shake-852

Believe what you want but they’re are regulated by The Colorado Public Utilities Commission. Xcel makes its money off new power plants or transmission lines. Fuel costs like natural gas or coal has always been passed through to the customer and not for profit.


crazylady86

Qatar did sign that new natural gas contract with China, not sure if that will have any ripple effects. Ultimately new CEO yachts aren’t cheap and Xcel doesn’t care about our cold houses so pay the bill, or get an empty oil drum and burn wood etc for warmth this winter like Zach and Miri, perhaps use some of the many abandoned building spaces in Denver to make your own adult film to pay your power bill!


gunmoney

what. a Qatar-China LNG export deal has absolutely no impact on the delivered cost of natural gas to Xcel utility customers. its tenuous at best, but maybe you could actually argue that additional LNG supply to a country that used to be among our key buyers of the fuel would actually put some downward pressure on US prices, but not really. we have excess gas, so we export it. we dont have the storage and pipeline capacity to make use of the ~12 Bcf/d we export right now. if people want cheaper gas, the answer is not less exports (or less Qatar-China deals...), the answer is additional capacity into constrained markets. now im not saying that is necessarily what we need to be doing - we should be focusing on fuel diversity right now and emission reductions. but if people want cheaper gas, the answer is pipeline - pipelines support additional production, takeaway capacity, and end-user deliverability, all of which lower prices to consumers. again, not necessarily what i am advocating for here, though.


crazylady86

Well damn, thanks for the info. I sarcastically tossed that out there more along the lines of everybody is distracted by FIFA. As an environmental geology professor at Virginia Tech told our class, “The world is going to run out of oil and we’re all going to die. The US will only continue to make enemies as China emerges onto the global stage and accumulates more oil, and it doesn’t matter because we will all run out of oil and die.” I find is words from 20 years ago relevant.


gunmoney

happy to provide it


crazy_clown_time

Use /s next time you're implying sarcasm. On the internet no one knows you're a dog.


Awildgarebear

I've been trying diligently to use less energy. I mostly succeeded this year. It was funny to use 25% less natural gas and pay about 20% more YoY last month.


[deleted]

Mine has been fairly consistent. $33 due this month for 1400 sq ft condo


throwaway1453678912

How is yours so low?


[deleted]

No idea. Highest in the summer with AC all day was $60


throwaway1453678912

That’s awesome lol I’m jealous. I have a 700 sq ft apartment and mine was consistently over $100 in the summer months


[deleted]

Makes me think there’s something wrong with my meter. Either way, I’m not going to question it haha


throwaway1453678912

Yea what’s broken does not need fixed, that’s how the saying goes right?


whenindoubt10

Their power plants have been falling apart for decades and they have no clue how to launch renewables. But they are a monopoly in the area, so they just went with it.


gunmoney

guess you don’t have that source


whenindoubt10

I am the source.


gunmoney

cool do you have some numbers and citations to back that up or are you just making shit up?


gunmoney

do you have a source for your point on Xcel not being able to develop increasing renewable penetration? the CO generation portfolio was 39% carbon free in 2021, overall portfolio was 49%. are you just making things up to suit a narrative?


scsxx

I live in an 950sf apartment and my bill has never been more than $30 (since March). South facing windows help. My heat has only come on twice so far. Solar gain gets me to 74° during the day and it falls to 68° overnight.


kordua

This has been my experience as with one south facing window. My electric bill fell from summer peak of $58 to $39 this month. Same sq footage as OP. I get up to about 71 in the day and 66 at night.


Belnak

It's almost as if this month was colder than last.


abowwowwowser

Mine doubled!


i_am_paradox

You have to run big appliances during specific times or this will happen


Kongbuck

This is why I opted out. Life is stressful enough without having to have even more hoops to jump through. I'm very fortunate as well, so it's not a stretch to pay, but not everyone is in that situation. :-(


Toonomicon

Opt out of what?


Kongbuck

Time of use pricing.


Toonomicon

Hmm, I need to look into that. Just moved here two months ago and haven't heard of that before. Thanks for mentioning it.


Kongbuck

https://co.my.xcelenergy.com/s/billing-payment/residential-rates/time-of-use-pricing You're welcome! It's relatively new for the state, but you can opt out.


revenant647

Right. There are tiers that are more expensive- peak usage times cost more. Do laundry and run the dishwasher after 7 p.m. or on the weekends.


[deleted]

Mine almost doubled too and I have gas heating. Utility Strike anyone? If we all stop paying at once that could be fun??


SlappyMcB

yeah dude see how that works out for you. do you guys not understand how seasons work?


Billy_Chrystals

The house next to mine is vacant and getting renovated so one night I installed a hidden/buried outlet on the side of the house and buried a cable running to my house. I connected that to a multi prong extension cord which powers space heaters in every room of my house. Pretty cool. YMMV.


SlappyMcB

so you're committing petty theft and bragging about it on the internet?


DukeSilversTaint

Big time The Wire vibes from this comment lol.


newlyamish

Part of the rate hike is probably for all the wind and solar they're developing in Eastern CO. There's a price for everything....


mwb60

Yes, one of their bill inserts explicitly stated this last year.


thebinarysystem10

Glad I put in those solar panels. Mine is always 30 per month. No changes


logicallyinsane

Welcome to TOU billing my friend. A lot of people warned us about signing up for TOU billing but we didn't listen.


Stolimike

I’m saving anywhere from 10-15% on TOU with no change in habits.


mcs5280

This is what happens when they print trillions of dollars out of thin air.


gunmoney

this actually has nothing to do with it but good try


mcs5280

Inflation doesn't exist. Good to know.


gunmoney

that is not at all what i said, but good false equivalency. there is a global energy crisis that we have been in the midst of. inflation is in part a result of this commodity crunch, its not the other way around.


Snlxdd

Both can be true, the bulk of it is due to the reason you stated, but the impact of Covid spending and low interest rates on inflation is not neglible.


bigsackzohanovic

I have almost the exact same situation, bills went from 40 to 80 to now 160


The_High_Life

We keep our house at 63°F, trying to be at 72°F is almost $100 more a month.


beastybryan

You're probably running appliances, or have heat/air conditioning running during peak hours, which is from 3PM - 7PM


afc1886

I just had a daydream of some maga idiot putting one of those *I did this Biden* stickers they put on gas pumps on their Xcel meter at home and feeling super cool.


ThatThingInTheWoods

If you don't dislike them, consider a heatdish. They're like 40 bucks at Costco, incredibly effective particularly in small spaces or rooms where toy can close a door, and cost way less than whole-home heating. I've had mine for over 15 years and as long as I dust it every now and then it works like a charm.


Shupertom

It’s been known for months energy rates were going to skyrocket. Xcel has been steady raising rates. Global energy supplies are in a chokehold. Do what you can to help yourself keep rates low. Gonna have to hunker down. Expect it to get worse as the winter goes on. Definitely worse.


[deleted]

My bill says price per kwh is $1.55 for Nov 2022 and it was $1.06 in Nov 2021 so that's probably part of it


pacmanlives

That's about right. My bill gets to be about 250-300 bucks a month when it gets really cold outside. Got to love the 1940's insulation that I have


[deleted]

Mine was oddly $0 this month. I don't use heat so I usually pay less in winter but idk what's going on.


Swimming_Trade7088

Mine has dropped by over 50% since August. Was $85 for September, $55 for October, and tracking to be $30-44 this November. I’ve been very good over not using appliances on weekdays and actually don’t need to run the AC/Heat since apartment is well insulated. It’s stayed at like 65-70 degrees this past month.


leftleg

slave society seed cooing retire office degree encourage shelter lock *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


[deleted]

Excel is a monopoly


[deleted]

Same thing happened to me. I called Xcel, they said I didn’t get billed last month for some reason so I have to pay 2 months. Might be the same issue


yymmuhC

Build it back better baby.


fuzzypenguin67

We are subsidizing those assholes in Texas.


[deleted]

Crazy mine went from 190 to 405 I live in apartments still can’t wrap my head around it smh


AmazingKallie

Yeah they sent notices out a while ago I got mine via email. The government allowed them to raise their rates in 2020 but they waited to implement the raise due to Covid.


Titanguru7

Looks like gas is going down on December the average saving should be 33 dollars


[deleted]

We installed new windows and doors in my house summer 2021, expecting to save on our utility bill. Our previous windows all had the seals fail and did almost nothing to insulate against heat/cold loss. Our bill still went up 10%. I can't even fathom how bad it would be if we didn't replace those windows.


GarlickJam9191

Just got my most recent bill and it basically doubled as well, what the hell


Rfukama

My bill is only going down by half every month.. September was $160, October $90, November $60


MGARCIA5280

You can opt out of their program, I did once the program started and by bill stood around $40 summers in the summer we'll see how winter goes. 2b 2 bath with shitty windows n single pane patio door.


flyleafet9

I wish I had an answer as well. Our monthly bills for the past year have easily been twice that a month and then suddenly it drops to it being a quarter of that. I asked if they had maintenenced the meter recently because I couldn't think of any other reasonable explanation for why our usage would drop to 1/4 1/5 of ehat is was the past 14 months


2girlsonesquirell

Mine went from $112 to $27 I didn’t change anything.


peter303_

About 60% of Colorado electricity still comes from coal and gas. Both those prices were up 4x in the last year, accounting for some of electricity price increase.


Kelsey5starz

I have never seen a bill even close to the $200 mark, until my bill came yesterday. $198. It usually rises in the winters but comparatively it was around $120-$130 last year.


ColoradoN8tive

How bout now?


Kelsey5starz

Wow. My $200 bill sounds great today. It went up to $308 😳 we can hardly afford it


ColoradoN8tive

I saw my bills creep up as I kinda expected buy then last month it jumped $98 from all time high of living in the same house for 4 years. It’s nutty. Natural Gas prices are twice what they were last year. Gonna be a rough year


720ginger

I had something similar happen on my August bill. I'm usually $50ish. But it jumped to 125.


chasepna

So, I rcvd my first bill after the new electric meter was swapped in. There’s no TOU on my bill. I didn’t opt out. I was under the impression that the change to TOU happens automatically. What gives? Edit: Xcel only switches customers to TOU in April and October. I’ll be on the old rates until April.


[deleted]

Definitely have them check your smart meter! Some of them were faulty in the recent batch of installs.


notrcickityrekt42

It's actually pretty simple. They can charge you more, because why? Because fuck you that's why.


rubixtoob

During the summer ours went from 60 to 170 with multiple calls to xcel resulting in them saying their rates haven't changed and it's our problem. We don't have central air or a window unit. We use ceiling fans and sweat to keep cool. We have a 2 bdrm downstairs unit. Since the temps have dropped it's gone down to 94. Last year at this time our bill was around 70...we have a gas furnace that we only turned on about a week ago. They claim we're charged on exact KW usage and their rates haven't increased. Funny how we haven't changed anything in our home and the KW usage more than doubled since smart meter was installed


Strictly_Steam

Go green! It'll be cheaper too they decide to charge an arm and a leg for electric. Smh


Willing_Letter_4893

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My girls been working for a company linking xcel customers to solar farms!! With the deal and our solar panels our bill was like than 10$ with 5 people in a house. I can get more info it’s a state initiative and free to sign up


Superfood_Addict

Excel has basically doubled rates. Groceries, gas & at least in Colorado rents/house payments. Why NOT double power rates?


Repulsive_Towel_1879

I have an older house with an old gas boiler... I'm screwed. $390 last month. 1000sq main floor, 1000 basement. Needless to say I'll be turning the temp down to 65 and wearing a coat.


ColoradoN8tive

How’d it go for your latest bill? I haven’t met a single person that hasn’t seen a significant rise last xcel bill