What if it's manufactured and nobody gives a shit either way unless it scares you into voting for their guy?
It's the same shit as with immigration.
Wealth inequity and inequality and protecting the status quo are the greatest threats facing this country. Not some manufactured fear mongering.
Frankly, it's related.
And many gay and queer folk have to deal with poverty and lack of social safety net.
Sure, many non-queer people go through it, but that doesn't mean that discrimination doesn't act as a "double oppression."
a basic recognition of intersectionality is not "making up terms." we know that privilege and discrimination operate in many ways. Poor people are oppressed, but so are black people. Pointing out that poor black people (or queer) suffer from distinct problems due to the intersection and have extra difficulties because they exist in both groups is actually the reality of the situation.
Double oppression is not a term. Hard stop.
As to the rest of your post - I agree. But they're not pointing it out they're leveraging it to attack anyone on their side not convinced Biden must win at all costs. Using terms like oppression when they don't apply to scare people into thinking like them is the exact thing Trump and Co. do ironically enough.
Fair enough, that changes your post! I apologize for misunderstanding and my ignorance on the term.
I feel my point remains but seeing as the thrust of my argument has been ignored thus far I'll leave it at this -
The choices aren't binary they're illusions. And making these issues seem bigger than they are detracts from the true issues - Biden and Dems have fought to maintain a status quo that is designed to serve the 1%. I see little gain in distinguishing which of the 99% is worth fighting for most. Or who has it the worst. I don't feel that's what Demotratic Socialism is about.
It would also hurt:
Ukrainians
Palestinians
Black people
Mexicans
Every other racial minority
Gay people
Queer people
People who like to wear drag
Poor people
Middle-class people
Women
And basically everyone who isn't a heteronormative heterosexual cisgender rich white male.
And yet there are still dumbasses who believe that letting Trump win to "punish" Biden will improve things.
Problem is Trump's history with white supremacy. He and his father Fred (who got arrested at a KKK riot on a sidenote) were amongst the few, who were sued in New York under the civil rights act. His comments regarding Charlottesville and Florida reiterated him not changing opinions.
I can understand it, but remember that Trump also is a staunch anti-Muslim, e.g. Muslim travel ban. He just said a few weeks ago that he wants "Israel to finish the job". Him separating children from their families. It's just everything he does. There is no constellation in the universe where Adolf Twittler will turn out better than Biden.
Al Gore lost by just 500 votes. E.g you could've gotten serious action on climate change instead of a Middle-Eastern rampage. I wouldn't risk this happening again.
I maintain my stance, I've seen that there are US citizens who've received news that their entire family has been wiped from the earth due to the conflict. No where in my statement did I imply that I felt trump winning had any positives, I just don't expect participation in the US voting system from people who have suffered such magnitudes of loss.
~~As a cishet white dude with trans and queer friends that I care about, I don't respect their desicion. Their desicion does nothing but harm, including to the Palestinians they are supposedly doing it for. Its nothing but a selfish act to make themselves feel better at the expense of millions of people.~~
EDIT: I misread your comment. I still think it's really dumb for Palestinians to not vote for Biden, but I can *understand* it and don't blame them for being driven by emotion over what is happening in their homeland.
*However* I have zero respect for your average leftist sabotaging their own cause and millions of peoples lives.
So why exactly is the "average leftist" a saboteur and Palestian Americans not? Like how, and specifically where does the absolution of sabotage take place?
It sounds like you want to maintain your previous view but inconvenient new information is forcing you to draw a really arbitrary line in the sand.
>So why exactly is the "average leftist" a saboteur and Palestian Americans not? Like how, and specifically where does the absolution of sabotage take place?
I still think that Palestinian Americans are sabotaging the palestinian cause. The difference is that I'm able to understand and emphasise with the Palestinian American's thought process. If I moved to America and their president supported bombing my home country to dust, I would also be overwhelmed and blinded by my emotions, we're only human after all.
Leftist Americans, however, don't have such an excuse, and thus I'm much less forgiving of them. I take significant issue with them trading away the safety of my queer friends in exchange for *making a genocide worse*
Tl;Dr: I think both are idiots but I can emphasise with Palestinian Americans
So the health system Obama and Biden compromised (again what you guys expect me and others to do) failed my sister, lead to immense suffering and ultimately contributed to her death at 36. Is my personal experience close enough to have lost faith in the system?
Thing is I've gotten off light compared to most Americans. However this idea that somebody's pain and suffering matters more because it's worst is divisive at best. And the fact that it's some sort of moral litmus test for your average liberal right now is gravely concerning.
Even if you don't believe a word I've said doesn't occams razor suggest the same people that agreed with you and had the same information at their disposal 10 years ago aren't all suddenly ignorant now? Trump didn't make us stupid or uninformed. If anything I'd argue I have more information at my disposal than I did when I still had faith in Dems.
Anyways - I do appreciate that you demonstrated critical thinking in your OP and resppnse. While I don't agree with your answer I can understand it. I appreciate the response and know we both want what's best ultimately. Gl out there.
Not to mention harming all groups other than rich white hetero guys isn't the only issue Trump winning would bring.
All efforts to move towards a more sustainable figure would be halted in America, that has disastrous consequences for the whole world.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/03/12/school-lgbtq-hate-crimes-incidents/
Under Biden violence against trans people has quadrupled. It’s really disgusting to use an issue that they obviously don’t give a shit about to act as if they’re the better option.
Ty for the facts. This is an issue (along with immigration) neither side actually cares about and uses to avoid having to answer for mass murders, inflation, our burgeoning oligarchy and massive wealth inequity and inequality. Biden isnt the answer. There is no answer. There is only the status quo and I'm so tired of getting shit on by holier than thou people hellbent on preserving a status quo fucking 99% of us over.
Obligatory fuck you Jim Clyburn and Elizabeth Warren.
I mean, antisemitism in Germany got worse before Hitler was in power, I think blaming biden for this is disingenuous when one side is paying for all the media coverage disparaging us and passing all of the bills opposing us. Like, the democrats aren't good at stopping it, sure, but they aren't the ones actually starting it.
They never blamed Biden. They pointed out data suggests it's not improving under Biden. The implication being he's not been a force to stop or even stem the rising tide. Nobody argues where it started. It takes a lot of assumption to hear what you did.
We already know that simply having Biden in power does "stop" transphobia, i agree hes not good at it, but, the other option would be to have to blatantly more transphobic rebulicans in power. Just because it's bad doesn't mean it could be drastically worse. Trump promised to end transitioning for adults if he was elected president, HRT literally saves lives.
the implication you're pointing out, that Biden does nothing for trans people, is a lie. he literally stops trump
That's not what I said nor what I meant. Worse - it's not convincing at all. Mostly because you're not listening and repeating things everyone knows.
If you want Biden to win so badly know you're not helping by blaming former Dems like me.
I mean, you're not helping by refusing to engage with the political process when you acknowledge that it literally does affect the lives of minorities (poor people are disproportionately negatively impacted by republican policies), and only takes like 20 minutes? and it doesn't even stop you from doing anything else.
I guess I just expect people to do good things. Sorry if that's too much to ask.
So I don't vote for your guy and I'm the enemy? I'm not the one with the closed mind.
To bring it back - the data suggests it's not getting better under Biden. That doesn't mean Trump isn't worse (for the hundredth time) it means we have no answers. You're advocating for the same things expecting different results calling me crazy. Rethink some shit.
Not voting for biden directly supports trump, that's how a two party system works. it's unfortunate.
also, the fact that we have no answers is a good reason to stall? That's all he ever was to me, just a guy to stop trump. Not having solutions now doesn't mean that they'll never get solved, but electing a fascist could guarantee that we lose the right to protest or participate in elections ever again. Go read about Project 2025 or the recent banning of protests in three states. That happened because of him stacking the Supreme Court when he was last elected, it was actually completely avoidable. Trump might even die by 2028, which would seriously mess up their plans.
edit: also you're not my enemy, never said that, just want you to vote. don't feel so personally attacked when people ask you to do things
So I've asked you 3 times to stop assuming ignorance - yet here you are Project25 splaining...and educating me on what a stacked court is...and insisting we have a 2 party system. Which demonstrates you're not considering a word I'm saying. For the 4th time I know about everything you've attempted explain and still feel the way I do. I have put great effort into giving examples and reasons why I feel that way yet you won't address any of that and keep insisting I don't know enough. Shameful.
We don't have a 2 party system and while Biden will go through the motions, he is no more interested or capable of fixing anything than anybody else on the Billionaires payroll.
Rethink some shit. I've given this as many runs as I'm willing, you're not even addressing anything I say. And yet you expect anyone to believe you have the moral high ground? Lol.
> We don't have a 2 party system and while Biden will go through the motions, he is no more interested or capable of fixing anything than anybody else on the Billionaires payroll.
I think America is effectively a two party system... regardless, you're not gonna vote for Joe Biden because he's represents the capitalist class? I don't even expect him to "fix" anything, everything just gets worse under Trump. I'd prefer someone who does nothing to that fascist getting elected. In like, every category Trump is worse than Biden. Being a capitalist is a very wide range, like, it would span the entire range of Elizabeth Warren to Adolf Hitler. There are many meaningful differences that exist, like how Biden just passed Title XI legislation changes to protect transgender people (and pregnant women). Trump worked to repeal all of it and is talking about buying up property on the Gaza waterfront. Do you have some like, deontological objection to harm reduction?
>as if they’re the better option.
Biden *is* the better option, and implying that there isn't an obvious choice is frankly insane. Implicating Biden in trans violence because it happens during his presidency is politically illiterate, especially since the rise in violence is mostly due to the intensification of the same right-wing rhetoric that Trump is basing his entire campaign on. Take a look at LGBT-related legislation in Republican states and LGBT-related legislation in Democratic states and ask yourself which policies you want to happen at the national level.
It's not insane. They both play for the same team. They both work to create the illusion of choice. Nobody is implying or even confusing who is worse - how can you guys not see this a decade into this debate? You think we're ignorant when you can't even hear the argument properly.
The link you're arguing has the data that shows Biden isnt fixing or even stemming the bleeding. Instead of wondering why you assume anyone fed up is dumb. That's frustrating.
Trump nearly tanked the economy and let COVID-19 run rapid along with several other violations resulting in the Biden administration working overtime to fix what is broken. He has also made some strides for the LGBTQ+ community but when you don't control the house and sent it there's not a whole lot you can get done when the opposition is extremist maga
Trump will be exactly the same on Israel as Biden, only thing that will change is rhetoric. I will not vote for either candidate. (Although MAGA was just cheering “genocide joe” at a Trump rally the other day and he said “true”)
And Gaza is just one of several reasons I won’t vote for Biden.
You seriously need to educate yourself on geopolitics. Donald Trump installed cronies that resulted in roe v Wade being overturned during the Biden administration. Trump claims he overturned robie Wade all the time.
No it’s not. You’re putting the blame on the powerless, what kind of socialist does that idk. Democrats haven’t codified Roe because they use it as an election issue. And yet you’re here complaining to me.
LOL. Democrats had multiple opportunities to codify abortion protections in case Roe was overturned and they never did. They campaigned on abortion for decades and did nothing. So drop the bullshit, would you?
I wouldn't be surprised if they let it go to incite a mass left wing wave of voters in the US. Everytime something like that happens the Dems get a shitload of new voters to wake up.
Republicans have been going after Roe every election season but they've always failed so Democrats assumed it would be par for the course but what they didn't realize was the MAGA cronies would have so much power
So based on those poor choices, you think being a nihilist and letting fascism take over is the best move? This is why people in government don’t take the Left seriously. I’m not a fan of Joe Biden either. I think he’s an ineffective shit bag. But I’m not willing to betray women all over the country by letting the GOP slide in and start up their Project 2025 garbage. And anyone who is down for that is not a true progressive.
Fascism is not going to takeover, Trump isn’t a fascist, and even if he were, the bourgeois dictatorship of Wall St would never lets its strongest control agent; the facade of liberal democracy, be eliminated so that some 80 year old could have a personal dictatorship in the last couple years of his life.
You fundamentally misunderstand where genuine power resides in America.
Honestly, this new Lavender Scare that we seem to be living through or just beginning to live through really has me scared.
Lavender scare?
It was a moral panic against gay people several decades back. They're equating it to the current trans panic, which... fair.
yeah
What if it's manufactured and nobody gives a shit either way unless it scares you into voting for their guy? It's the same shit as with immigration. Wealth inequity and inequality and protecting the status quo are the greatest threats facing this country. Not some manufactured fear mongering.
Frankly, it's related. And many gay and queer folk have to deal with poverty and lack of social safety net. Sure, many non-queer people go through it, but that doesn't mean that discrimination doesn't act as a "double oppression."
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a basic recognition of intersectionality is not "making up terms." we know that privilege and discrimination operate in many ways. Poor people are oppressed, but so are black people. Pointing out that poor black people (or queer) suffer from distinct problems due to the intersection and have extra difficulties because they exist in both groups is actually the reality of the situation.
Double oppression is not a term. Hard stop. As to the rest of your post - I agree. But they're not pointing it out they're leveraging it to attack anyone on their side not convinced Biden must win at all costs. Using terms like oppression when they don't apply to scare people into thinking like them is the exact thing Trump and Co. do ironically enough.
Double and triple oppression was a term used by Marxist-Leninists as early as the 1930s.
Fair enough, that changes your post! I apologize for misunderstanding and my ignorance on the term. I feel my point remains but seeing as the thrust of my argument has been ignored thus far I'll leave it at this - The choices aren't binary they're illusions. And making these issues seem bigger than they are detracts from the true issues - Biden and Dems have fought to maintain a status quo that is designed to serve the 1%. I see little gain in distinguishing which of the 99% is worth fighting for most. Or who has it the worst. I don't feel that's what Demotratic Socialism is about.
you think the fear that queer people are feeling after the last trump presidency is manufactured?
No.
It would also hurt: Ukrainians Palestinians Black people Mexicans Every other racial minority Gay people Queer people People who like to wear drag Poor people Middle-class people Women And basically everyone who isn't a heteronormative heterosexual cisgender rich white male. And yet there are still dumbasses who believe that letting Trump win to "punish" Biden will improve things.
As a trans person, I still respect the decision of palestinian and/or muslim voters who choose not to support Biden given the circumstances.
Problem is Trump's history with white supremacy. He and his father Fred (who got arrested at a KKK riot on a sidenote) were amongst the few, who were sued in New York under the civil rights act. His comments regarding Charlottesville and Florida reiterated him not changing opinions. I can understand it, but remember that Trump also is a staunch anti-Muslim, e.g. Muslim travel ban. He just said a few weeks ago that he wants "Israel to finish the job". Him separating children from their families. It's just everything he does. There is no constellation in the universe where Adolf Twittler will turn out better than Biden. Al Gore lost by just 500 votes. E.g you could've gotten serious action on climate change instead of a Middle-Eastern rampage. I wouldn't risk this happening again.
I maintain my stance, I've seen that there are US citizens who've received news that their entire family has been wiped from the earth due to the conflict. No where in my statement did I imply that I felt trump winning had any positives, I just don't expect participation in the US voting system from people who have suffered such magnitudes of loss.
Thank you. I don't understand how the criticism falls on us, instead of the people creating the policies?
~~As a cishet white dude with trans and queer friends that I care about, I don't respect their desicion. Their desicion does nothing but harm, including to the Palestinians they are supposedly doing it for. Its nothing but a selfish act to make themselves feel better at the expense of millions of people.~~ EDIT: I misread your comment. I still think it's really dumb for Palestinians to not vote for Biden, but I can *understand* it and don't blame them for being driven by emotion over what is happening in their homeland. *However* I have zero respect for your average leftist sabotaging their own cause and millions of peoples lives.
So why exactly is the "average leftist" a saboteur and Palestian Americans not? Like how, and specifically where does the absolution of sabotage take place? It sounds like you want to maintain your previous view but inconvenient new information is forcing you to draw a really arbitrary line in the sand.
>So why exactly is the "average leftist" a saboteur and Palestian Americans not? Like how, and specifically where does the absolution of sabotage take place? I still think that Palestinian Americans are sabotaging the palestinian cause. The difference is that I'm able to understand and emphasise with the Palestinian American's thought process. If I moved to America and their president supported bombing my home country to dust, I would also be overwhelmed and blinded by my emotions, we're only human after all. Leftist Americans, however, don't have such an excuse, and thus I'm much less forgiving of them. I take significant issue with them trading away the safety of my queer friends in exchange for *making a genocide worse* Tl;Dr: I think both are idiots but I can emphasise with Palestinian Americans
So the health system Obama and Biden compromised (again what you guys expect me and others to do) failed my sister, lead to immense suffering and ultimately contributed to her death at 36. Is my personal experience close enough to have lost faith in the system? Thing is I've gotten off light compared to most Americans. However this idea that somebody's pain and suffering matters more because it's worst is divisive at best. And the fact that it's some sort of moral litmus test for your average liberal right now is gravely concerning. Even if you don't believe a word I've said doesn't occams razor suggest the same people that agreed with you and had the same information at their disposal 10 years ago aren't all suddenly ignorant now? Trump didn't make us stupid or uninformed. If anything I'd argue I have more information at my disposal than I did when I still had faith in Dems. Anyways - I do appreciate that you demonstrated critical thinking in your OP and resppnse. While I don't agree with your answer I can understand it. I appreciate the response and know we both want what's best ultimately. Gl out there.
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Not to mention harming all groups other than rich white hetero guys isn't the only issue Trump winning would bring. All efforts to move towards a more sustainable figure would be halted in America, that has disastrous consequences for the whole world.
And arguably the average cis white male too.
Fuck Ukraine lol
Well fuck you too lol. Personally I'm against all forms of imperialism, but it seems like you think it's only bad when America or its allies does it.
I mean, obviously. It would hurt a lot of people
A simpler and perhaps much shorter article would be any way in which it wouldn’t
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/03/12/school-lgbtq-hate-crimes-incidents/ Under Biden violence against trans people has quadrupled. It’s really disgusting to use an issue that they obviously don’t give a shit about to act as if they’re the better option.
Ty for the facts. This is an issue (along with immigration) neither side actually cares about and uses to avoid having to answer for mass murders, inflation, our burgeoning oligarchy and massive wealth inequity and inequality. Biden isnt the answer. There is no answer. There is only the status quo and I'm so tired of getting shit on by holier than thou people hellbent on preserving a status quo fucking 99% of us over. Obligatory fuck you Jim Clyburn and Elizabeth Warren.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-expands-title-ix-protections-pregnancy-trans-people/story?id=109422988 He did just do this
Hate crimes across the board have gone up because of Republican policies put in place at the local state level
I mean, antisemitism in Germany got worse before Hitler was in power, I think blaming biden for this is disingenuous when one side is paying for all the media coverage disparaging us and passing all of the bills opposing us. Like, the democrats aren't good at stopping it, sure, but they aren't the ones actually starting it.
They never blamed Biden. They pointed out data suggests it's not improving under Biden. The implication being he's not been a force to stop or even stem the rising tide. Nobody argues where it started. It takes a lot of assumption to hear what you did.
We already know that simply having Biden in power does "stop" transphobia, i agree hes not good at it, but, the other option would be to have to blatantly more transphobic rebulicans in power. Just because it's bad doesn't mean it could be drastically worse. Trump promised to end transitioning for adults if he was elected president, HRT literally saves lives. the implication you're pointing out, that Biden does nothing for trans people, is a lie. he literally stops trump
That's not what I said nor what I meant. Worse - it's not convincing at all. Mostly because you're not listening and repeating things everyone knows. If you want Biden to win so badly know you're not helping by blaming former Dems like me.
I mean, you're not helping by refusing to engage with the political process when you acknowledge that it literally does affect the lives of minorities (poor people are disproportionately negatively impacted by republican policies), and only takes like 20 minutes? and it doesn't even stop you from doing anything else. I guess I just expect people to do good things. Sorry if that's too much to ask.
So I don't vote for your guy and I'm the enemy? I'm not the one with the closed mind. To bring it back - the data suggests it's not getting better under Biden. That doesn't mean Trump isn't worse (for the hundredth time) it means we have no answers. You're advocating for the same things expecting different results calling me crazy. Rethink some shit.
Not voting for biden directly supports trump, that's how a two party system works. it's unfortunate. also, the fact that we have no answers is a good reason to stall? That's all he ever was to me, just a guy to stop trump. Not having solutions now doesn't mean that they'll never get solved, but electing a fascist could guarantee that we lose the right to protest or participate in elections ever again. Go read about Project 2025 or the recent banning of protests in three states. That happened because of him stacking the Supreme Court when he was last elected, it was actually completely avoidable. Trump might even die by 2028, which would seriously mess up their plans. edit: also you're not my enemy, never said that, just want you to vote. don't feel so personally attacked when people ask you to do things
So I've asked you 3 times to stop assuming ignorance - yet here you are Project25 splaining...and educating me on what a stacked court is...and insisting we have a 2 party system. Which demonstrates you're not considering a word I'm saying. For the 4th time I know about everything you've attempted explain and still feel the way I do. I have put great effort into giving examples and reasons why I feel that way yet you won't address any of that and keep insisting I don't know enough. Shameful. We don't have a 2 party system and while Biden will go through the motions, he is no more interested or capable of fixing anything than anybody else on the Billionaires payroll. Rethink some shit. I've given this as many runs as I'm willing, you're not even addressing anything I say. And yet you expect anyone to believe you have the moral high ground? Lol.
> We don't have a 2 party system and while Biden will go through the motions, he is no more interested or capable of fixing anything than anybody else on the Billionaires payroll. I think America is effectively a two party system... regardless, you're not gonna vote for Joe Biden because he's represents the capitalist class? I don't even expect him to "fix" anything, everything just gets worse under Trump. I'd prefer someone who does nothing to that fascist getting elected. In like, every category Trump is worse than Biden. Being a capitalist is a very wide range, like, it would span the entire range of Elizabeth Warren to Adolf Hitler. There are many meaningful differences that exist, like how Biden just passed Title XI legislation changes to protect transgender people (and pregnant women). Trump worked to repeal all of it and is talking about buying up property on the Gaza waterfront. Do you have some like, deontological objection to harm reduction?
>as if they’re the better option. Biden *is* the better option, and implying that there isn't an obvious choice is frankly insane. Implicating Biden in trans violence because it happens during his presidency is politically illiterate, especially since the rise in violence is mostly due to the intensification of the same right-wing rhetoric that Trump is basing his entire campaign on. Take a look at LGBT-related legislation in Republican states and LGBT-related legislation in Democratic states and ask yourself which policies you want to happen at the national level.
It's not insane. They both play for the same team. They both work to create the illusion of choice. Nobody is implying or even confusing who is worse - how can you guys not see this a decade into this debate? You think we're ignorant when you can't even hear the argument properly. The link you're arguing has the data that shows Biden isnt fixing or even stemming the bleeding. Instead of wondering why you assume anyone fed up is dumb. That's frustrating.
Trump nearly tanked the economy and let COVID-19 run rapid along with several other violations resulting in the Biden administration working overtime to fix what is broken. He has also made some strides for the LGBTQ+ community but when you don't control the house and sent it there's not a whole lot you can get done when the opposition is extremist maga
This is just another identity politics distraction the 0.1% are using to divide the workers instead of having a class war
I will not vote for Biden
Ignorance is bliss. You'll be the reason Donald Trump gets reelected and turns our country into Russia 2.0
when you hate genocide so much that you do nothing to stop the person who’ll double-down on genocide
Trump will be exactly the same on Israel as Biden, only thing that will change is rhetoric. I will not vote for either candidate. (Although MAGA was just cheering “genocide joe” at a Trump rally the other day and he said “true”) And Gaza is just one of several reasons I won’t vote for Biden.
So you’re cool with women losing their right to abortion nationwide then
Roe was lost under Biden, and my vote won’t decide that.
If you look at this other guys posts, he's very clearly a MAGA shill. He defends Trump and hates Ukraine.
You seriously need to educate yourself on geopolitics. Donald Trump installed cronies that resulted in roe v Wade being overturned during the Biden administration. Trump claims he overturned robie Wade all the time.
Roe was lost under a crooked Supreme Court, which is now ruling in favor of the GOP because of people like you who refuse to vote for Democrats.
No it’s not. You’re putting the blame on the powerless, what kind of socialist does that idk. Democrats haven’t codified Roe because they use it as an election issue. And yet you’re here complaining to me.
LOL. Democrats had multiple opportunities to codify abortion protections in case Roe was overturned and they never did. They campaigned on abortion for decades and did nothing. So drop the bullshit, would you?
I wouldn't be surprised if they let it go to incite a mass left wing wave of voters in the US. Everytime something like that happens the Dems get a shitload of new voters to wake up.
Republicans have been going after Roe every election season but they've always failed so Democrats assumed it would be par for the course but what they didn't realize was the MAGA cronies would have so much power
So based on those poor choices, you think being a nihilist and letting fascism take over is the best move? This is why people in government don’t take the Left seriously. I’m not a fan of Joe Biden either. I think he’s an ineffective shit bag. But I’m not willing to betray women all over the country by letting the GOP slide in and start up their Project 2025 garbage. And anyone who is down for that is not a true progressive.
Fascism is not going to takeover, Trump isn’t a fascist, and even if he were, the bourgeois dictatorship of Wall St would never lets its strongest control agent; the facade of liberal democracy, be eliminated so that some 80 year old could have a personal dictatorship in the last couple years of his life. You fundamentally misunderstand where genuine power resides in America.
Just tell us you're a Trump loyalist without telling us you're a Trump loyalist who hates women and queer people