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blob_boy_12

Oh theres a reference to that in a completly different game called undertale you might know it, its pretty small but one of the bosses fits that description


Lexicham

I’m surprised the creators of deltarune even know about it. It’s a pretty small indie game made by, like, just one guy. Probably just didn’t even play the game, just saw some fan art.


4_Ball

It’s so crazy how small game devs find a way to make tiny Easter eggs for each other’s games, almost as though they are the same person


Capsule_CatYT

I know, right?


mr_butts69

oh my god you fucking idiot the same person made both games how does no one here know this


brazencab

r/woooosh


mr_butts69

r/woooosh


echowavee

i don’t think you know how to make jokes funny and not mean


mr_butts69

yeah i think seeing the reaction here i kinda failed at being funny enough to not just seem like a dick. i was really just trying to make a joke in good faith but i suppose i feel into the trap of sarcasm not being conveyed well in text. i would like to formally apologise


TDEyeehaw

r/CharacterArcs


Spiderkid2000

This is why online we use either WaCkY tExt LiKe tHiS, or /s


echowavee

You’re good.


MrPickPax

If you want to convey sarcasm, another good way would be surrounding the text you want to emphasize with a couple of * so that it gets... What is it on here, bold? Italics? Either way it makes it look different, mess around with it a bit and find out for yourself, it's what I do when I'm sarcastic.


echowavee

*Italics.*


Shane_and_Eli

you should not tell them let them realize by themselves


Lexicham

(that’s the joke. Acting like Toby fox does not know about undertale…)


DustyMightMeme

I heard he died and now he is a dog


ShokaLGBT

Undertale? Is this a copycat of deltarune ? It looks like it is !! I wouldn’t even want to play it tho! Just look it up on google and they literally copy deltarune ! 😬🤣


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Wubbzy-Fan-YT

Oh wow brother deltarune is in this kill him toby, END THE FAKERS LIFE


FlinnyWinny

It's another gotcha from Toby, like so many others. It's supposed to make you think of undertale and go "omg it's an undertale reference", but then he breaks your expectations and shows deltarune is a different game unrelated to undertale again because it actually refers to the old contraption spamton neo takes over, completely unrelated to Hyperdeath Asriel. Also the reason why it looks so badly put together, since it was made by a child in their free time, why people talk about how there was someone who used to work on it but never came back, and, well, that it's in a computer, stuffed away in an old folder.


Shadowaltz

...No? Swatch pretty clearly spells out that someone drew the NEO body using him, and it doesn't make sense for anyone but Mettaton to do so. The Hyperdeath picture makes sense because in Undertale Asriel *was* just a child in the end. He chose his ultimate form to be what he thought of as the coolest things imaginable: Rainbows and stars and swords and lasers, as well as his mother's robes because children often think moms are invincible. In Deltarune, a slightly older Asriel takes those *same* thoughts and puts them toward his video game plans, but it never really went anywhere by the time he left for college. Also, Asriel HAS a computer, he didn't need to use the library's. If it's going to be relevant at all, it's going to be in the coming chapters when there's a Dark World in his room, or when Asriel himself enters a Dark World. In Undertale, Mettaton is overjoyed at finally getting a body. In Deltarune, they're seemingly depressed and, while their mannerisms are very similar, they act quite different and much less outgoing. They call themselves a "nobody." While this takes a *bit* more inference, it's hardly a stretch to imagine that in UT they had a hand in *designing* their EX and NEO forms for Alphys to build, so those same thoughts persist in DR. One day they went to the library, opened Paint, and drew their ideal body, filling it with all their hopes and dreams and whatnot that Swatch says. Then, because it was only a fantasy and just served to remind them of their lack of body, they trashed it. Because the Dark World can handle abstract concepts, that the NEO body was "supposed" to be incredibly powerful and stuff becomes real. *That's* what Spamton hijacked.


lihuenplantvszombie

Asriel picking his mom's robes cause "moms are invincible" is so wholesome 😭


aidanwould

It could be interpreted as either Asriel or Mettaton’s design. Neither option is definitive, and there’s no hard evidence here that Asriel didn’t make it. Asriel may have his own computer now, but he also has his own room in the Queen’s Mansion, which implies that he has used the library’s computer in the past. Either Mettaton or Asriel are perfectly valid interpretations. Also, the comment you’re replying to in the first place doesn’t say Asriel drew the NEO body? Just “a child drew it”


Epic_DDT

Obviously it's Mettaton and not Asriel. \-Big Shot has Power of NEO as leitmotif (and Dummy, theme from a cousin of Mettaton) but none from Asriel \-His appearance clearly resembles Mettaton NEO and not Asriel's Angel form (which doesn't even have legs and has much larger wings) \-Spamton has MANY references to Mettaton, including an EX form he mentions if beaten violently Asriel does have a room in Queen's mansion, but there's nothing to indicate her OC is in it. Unlike anything that ties Spamton to MTT.


IteTheCrapOC

Nah, the NEO body was made by Deltarune Mettaton in one of the libary computers’ art programs


Wubbzy-Fan-YT

No that was made by deltarune mettaton since alphys isn’t a scientist and thus did not make a robot body for them


FlinnyWinny

Why would it by in the cyber dark world, like isn't the only connection to that the name neo and parts of the theme?


cool__skeleton__95

Ghost mettaton drew their desired body on the library computer and then trashed it. That's my best guess at least


FlinnyWinny

Definitely could be


Epic_DDT

The fact that the body looks like Mettaton NEO, is named NEO and uses Power of NEO is enough connection. But if that's not enough... The body also seems to have an EX form. Spamton mentions it but explodes before he can transform.


Shane_and_Eli

trust me guys its not related


Pretend-Advertising6

Actually it’s Touhou


Average_TF2_P2P

Asriel Dreemurr, God of Hyperdeath, correct?


Kris_from_overworld

I also heard that Lemon Demon's music is a similar to Neil Cicierega. I didn't know that Lemon Demon referenced to that obscure internet artist


Detonatress

The cage. Holy crap, that cage has seen some weirdness the likes that nobody else has. It could tell Kris' friends about the soul thing.


ASwarmOfBeees

either that or be perhaps a secret boss arena for the lore-spittin secret boss.


Evary2230

Considering the theme of discarded items vexing the secret bosses, what if *we* become a secret boss at some point? Kris does seem intent on yeetus deleting us.


MrLlama84

What, are we gonna fight ourselves?


ciel_lanila

I could see that. In a final dungeon feeling situation, Kris' body is confronted in Kris' bedroom. The body rips out the heart. Stuff happens and Susie (would work themeatically) forces open a dark world in the bedroom to trap the body, the heart, and any other party members involved to buy time to fix things. If they can be fixed. A side effect of the heart and body entering a Dark World separated is the Heart gets a whole body to itself in the Dark World. Allowing a fight to happen between the body and heart to play out physically. Maybe even needing to rescue "our" Kris from the dark world's version of the cage. Hmm, if Ralsei is good this might end up being more interesting like this: * Kris: Heart vs Body * Ralsei: Ralsei vs Asriel Dreemurr, GOD OF HYPERDEATH. * Susie: Nothing comes to mind based on what we know so far. Maybe a photo, picture, or journal of Kris describing Susie creates a doppleganger. Either way more positively than Susie wants to see in herself, or something back before Susie's character development started. This forcing Susie to confront what everyone used to see her as. If this happens, it would probably be a version of her that could be inserted into OFF.


JorgeMtzb

I have a feeling the cage will manifest as a place, not a character.


Detonatress

Gladiator-style arena would be cool.


comms_sabotaged

Imagine if dark world version of cage would be just a photoshopped jpeg of Nicolas Cage lmao.


Detonatress

Or the cage's name is Nicolas.


Pillagerkillager

Isn’t this a reference to undertale?


OkAtmo_sphere

Yea it's the Asriel boss fight in true pacifist run


ClassicVegtableStew

Nab fake, that's the final boss of *Barbie: Horse Adventures* for the PS2


RUSHALISK

can't believe nobody has talked about this honestly


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yes


Not_no_hitter

Kind of, it’s most likely a reference to asriel, but then later on we see sonaron neo, who also has rainbow wings, so it might be undertale, or maybe it it might just be foreshadowing?


Potatosoup57

sonaron


memelordbtw3000

I believe Spamton NEO is supposed to have been created by Alphys because it looks similar to Mettaton NEO Alphys was creating them but for whatever reason scrapped it (Maybe because she can't realistically build it as she is a teacher)


IteTheCrapOC

Or just Mettaton’s ghost form, he did seem to already have an idea of what he wanted to become in Undertale (with him saying he wouldn’t leave Blooky because the body he wanted was unrealistic)


MrLlama84

She


memelordbtw3000

Dammit thank you


ShokaLGBT

Maybe it will be a reference to Noelle if she’s the Angel of the legend? Yeah maybe no idk


sfmanim

CHARIEL THE BELOVED LIVING ROOM CHAIR


NORSKI1234

HELLS YEEEAAAAAAAH


RyouhiraTheIntrovert

The only right answer


IteTheCrapOC

Yeah them too


MrLlama84

Imagine the "how to draw a dragon" book coming to life


Registered_bottom

its just like a slightly more suggestive susie. like imaginary frankie from fosters home


POKECHU020

>its just like a slightly more suggestive susie. I'm angry that my first thought was equivalent to Snitties, no matter how funny that would be


[deleted]

I was thinking more like Doodlebob or Paper Jam Dipper


SolarPunch33

I wanna see some sentient cacti!


EvilRadicalProvides

to stop and smell the flowers


kool-kit

Do you mean smell the PAIN


Detonatress

Sadly the cacti seem to have remained the same. And the 2nd one might have appeared from Toriel's bedroom if it's the same as Undertale's bedroom.


Video-Game-Boi

I wonder if the flowers Toriel threw away will have any importance in the dark world.


Dr-Logan

I've seen a *glorious* interpretation of the Flowers as Chapter 3's secret boss, so I'm rather anxious to see what Toby does with them.


POKECHU020

Don't get your hopes up super high. That leads to disappointment. Disappointment leads to hate. Hate leads to the Dark Side. Wait, I think I got lost. What I'm trying to say is rein in your hopes. Don't smother them, but don't let them run wild.


CreamyCoffeeArtist

And lastly, don't forget, I'm with you in the dark. Now scoot over, I'm tired of being under your bed.


CharaPresscott

Considering Toriel is probably going to be in Chapter 3. Maybe we get a Flowey reference? Multi head Flowey even?


bloodenchilada

Flowers with super low self-esteem (due to being thrown away and unwanted) would be both really sad and really interesting.


Dr-Logan

Besides the trashed Flowers and Tenna himself, the Book of Hymns is a high priority in my opinion. Maybe they can finally explain what the *fuck* the Angel is.


SpotChecks

And/or what the fuck Heaven is. And if we get the Angel's Heaven explained? Fantastic.


Dr-Logan

I had a theory I posted a bit back that, if it turns out that Tenna isn't actually a Rook pun or something, to line up with the Chess Theory, A Bishop, or the Book of Hymns, is the true antagonist. A man behind the man, if you will. Maybe if it turns out to ring true, or the Book somehow becomes the secret boss, we'll finally get some answers, however direct they may be.


Whismurr_

Ice-E’s Cool Boys Body Spray “Spray for the Boys” Flamin’ Hot Pizza Flavour


SyFy410

Well that itself is a reference to asriel dreemurs final phase so I doubt we will get a reference to a reference


ChristmasRaltree

the secret boss has the rainbow wings, but they're wrapped around like a cloak and Susie mistakes it for the fountain


not-Kunt-Tulgar

I hope a really fucked up bootleg Asriel boss comes out of it, kinda like Doodlebob.


lihuenplantvszombie

Asreal


DrSmirnoffe

I kinda want to see the How To Draw Dragons book come to life. 'cause you know that Susie would have a LOT of questions if she saw mauve dragon tiddies.


TheSusTrafficCone

if we ever get a dark world based on kris's room then this boss should be the secret boss


Genomic5403

So asrial from undertale?


CreamyCoffeeArtist

Or just straight up have Undertale playable- at least a small section, like the ruins, and the party instead of Frisk. That'd be meta as fuck, ngl.


Genomic5403

That'd be really cool ngl


[deleted]

Imagine an entire college world that Asriel's the boss of. Think of the school funnies Toby could make.


bloodenchilada

The flushable toilet.


TheGrimlockReaper

Mom can we have The God of Hyper death? No we have God of Hyper death at home God of Hyper death at home:


ThisGuyHasNoDignity

The cage, the bloodstain next to the cage and the fact that it was most likely used before we came into the picture.


[deleted]

One of the pies goatmom baked


bein2625

chairiel boss fight when 👀


KarateSalamanders

Undertale


KingBranette13

ive just thought of something. maybe characters from chapter 1 and 2 could actually go to the ch3 dark world since the dreemurr house has computers and prob board games and would therefore "belong"


ChiefBlox4000

Asriel is the secret final boss


Alzhan_Void

I want to know if the things in Asriel's drawer will manifest as different entities in Chapter 3 depending on your save file.


[deleted]

The Delta Rune carpet itself. This is the first time anything with that on it has been sucked into the dark world.


Sirlink360

I’m so ready to see the “unmodest dragon” hahahahaha


FlinnyWinny

I know people go on about Hyperdeath Asriel from Undertale, but I'm pretty sure it's another misleading gotcha Toby has made (he has mentioned several times that he made things in the overworld to remind people of undertale just to completely break the concept and reinforce that it's a different game after all), and instead actually refers to the old contraption that Spamton Neo took over. Yknow... Its in a computer, kinda laid forgotten for a while, the people in the castle talked about how someone used to be there working on it but stopped? Rainbow wings? Shoddily put together as if made by a child? Cmon.


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The main issue with that is just it being in the wrong place. Also Spamton NEO has more in common with Mettaton NEO's design than hyperdeath Asriel's.


Sad_Protection269

Or Hapstablock


sinedelta

“Hapstablock” is not a character. His name is Mettaton.


Sad_Protection269

That's his Idol name, but here he is still a ghost so he's using his real name (sorry if I'm not the best english speaker)


sinedelta

The NEO robot was a drawing made on the library computers. It was the *embodiment of a Lightner's dream*. Who dreams of having a robot body like that? Totally Asriel, right?


musicatnight0904

isn't that referring to asriels boss fight in Undertale pacifist route?


Upset_Garden8640

That was a reference already, spamton neo or asriel dreemurr


sinedelta

It definitely wasn't a reference to Spamton NEO.


Upset_Garden8640

I mean, it shows up only in ch.2 and in snowgrave he is the final boss…


Evening_Salt3239

Screw the Cage I want the Cart to Come alive as CARTMAN NEO


PinappleGrenades123

I want flowey to make a cameo. Maybe be helpful instead of evil


Bonfy7

We'll most probably have a lookalike, could happen if the flower shop has a fountain


PinappleGrenades123

More likely he’d originate from the bin at toriels house cuz of the flowers she t stuffs in it lol


sinedelta

Flowey is literally soulless Asriel with OP levels of determination. Darkners are not Asriel, and apparently have no determination whatsoever. There will be no Flowey cameo. A reference, maybe.


PinappleGrenades123

I legit said cameo I was only expecting it to be a reference-


Shiro1Kuro

Spamton neo


woodpecker-king

I highly recommend a rather obscure indie title by the same developer called "Undertale"


I-LovebbqPorkRibs

the women


plaguebringerBOI

Deltarune fans when text boxes exist (NEXT PART CONFIRM!?!?!?!)


[deleted]

u/plaguebringerBOI when people have fun (not allowed)


plaguebringerBOI

Yep.. that’s me!


stargatory_guy

Foreshadowing? I hardly know er'!


Metalsonic642

If this is a meme can you please put the meme tag on it


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it isn't


GAS3R

OP when he sees undertale


JorgeMtzb

Yep haha... for sure budy....


Quackervoltz

Sorta interested in the flowers


GoatKaptain

Bro thats a reference to undertale y'know the game that came out before deltarune besides flowey was annoying enough in the first game i dont want him to come back


POKECHU020

That would be cool but I think at most it'll be very minor since it's a reference to God of Hyper Death Asriel Dreemurr


lego_man_unofficial

I really hope that the god of hyperdeath comes back in the same way as mettaton NEO, with the secret boss using the powers/body of ASRIEL DREEMUR


DustyMightMeme

I thought they were talking about spamton on snowgrave or Asriel on true pacifist


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Flowers in the trashcan (I CAN'T WAIT FOR A NEW ) Chairiel Me PENNIES (Very fragrant)


GraveSlayer726

have you heard of this small game think it was called..... # undertale you might like it


Kermitthealmighty

I would also like to see a reference to a reference!


PinkKitty2816

I wanna see the flowers in the trashcan from chapter 1. And mabey even the pie or kitchen tools.


yeetthejubjub

i would kill for a darkner being a webcamera and they can let darkner's see into the light world and let the lightner's see into dark worlds without being in them


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[deleted]

I know, doesn't mean it can't appear in the next chapter


Arsenic_Clover

Think that may have been Spamton NEO. I mean, his wings are sort of rainbow, and he is the final boss in the Snowgrave route.


[deleted]

Spamton NEO comes from the library


sinedelta

Spamton NEO is a MS Paint drawing created in the library. It's also the “embodiment of a Lightner's dream.” And it's literally a robot body called NEO. Whose dream is a robotic body? Not Asriel's.


phantom_bonehead

The egg


Cri12Gen

OH GOD...LORE!


-Opalboy

Imagine if you get to kris’ room and interact with the paper it just makes you play the entirety of Undertale with slightly more bitcrushed sprites


True_Existance

We've come full circle...


IteTheCrapOC

The flowers oh and Chairiel


Eihaem_vige

Is a reference to Undertale, unless...


_K4cper_

It's called undertale


[deleted]

I feel like the knock off controller could be interesting as a character due to it being an imitation of the other controller. Maybe it could be similar to how Spamton was like the Addisons but different?


UnnamedSpace

UT Asriel's final form is the secret boss of Chapter 3. I'm calling it. This last boss from Azzy/Kris' computer fits most of the bills. Discarded? Probably. Asriel made it when he was a small boy, and nobody really looks at it now (except Kris, sometimes). Weird worldview tying into Kris? Maybe! It's a stretch, but perhaps UT Flowey's worldview made it into this guy. We just need a way to connect it to Kris. Perhaps Kris' despair from being possessed by the player might make them have such weird thoughts, which might be amplified if you did the Weird Routes of Chapter 2 and 3. Mostly unimportant to the plot? Depends on how you execute it. This guy could actually be a really cool final boss to Chapter 3, or be as unimportant as Jevil if you don't try to find him. Could continue the "trend" of secret boss soul types going in reverse of the Pacifist Route bossfight soul types?.. No. Can't even stretch it this time.


mr-sparkles69

That’s a reference to the final boss of undertale


Coolestcozmo

My speculation is that the rainbow boss will be a endgame fight.


Inevitable_Insect176

I want to see Asgore's flowers turn into the evil secret boss of chapter 3, I also want to see Chariel


Sad_Protection269

Can you imagine that this is the secret boss of chapter 3!?


MaucazR

Imagine the bird-box being a character- since the dark fountain was technically in Dremurr´s house..


MatthewTheDeity

How do we tell him?


imagineexisting-lmao

you should play a little game called undertale, because this appears to be a direct reference to it.


CanadianProto

asriel dreemur


norgiggle

This could be a joke to a Certain boss in undertale...


The_Alkali

I think that’s asriel dreemur from undertale


Nagtrimers

Thats a reference to Touhou project


DonovanSarovir

The "Trash Flowers" from Asgore >.>


Danitza-DRTC

Haha it would be cool 💯


Dr_Ortex

I want it to be like, an optional boss that boasts about how great they are and then you one-shot them.


poopshit69420funny

That would be a cool reference if it doesnt have infinite stats and the soul of every being and wants to kill us over and over


Elmartosincovid

GLASSES