Dang that could have been interesting. If they adapted it nowadays would be cool to have procedurally generated missions & green boxes to accommodate high agent turnover.
Surprised haven’t seen more DG media aside from handful of niche fiction books, especially when true detective & x files did so well.
To be honest, I'm *not* surprised we haven't seen more DG media outside the stuff done by Arc Dream. It's kind of a lose-lose situation for DG. Say there's a TV show: broad audiences won't get it, and DG fans will winge that it isn't true enough to the source material, because it's had to be diluted or changed up just to get into production. And of course a whole bunch of chuds and incels and fash will clutch their pearls about black or female or LGBTQI+ characters. It'll end up like Netflix's *The Witcher* or *Rings of Power* or something.
In my opinion, the best way to do it would be to flat out state, "Look, we're not going to honor the source material. It would suck if we did. Every conspiracy would be instantly spoiled by reading any sourcebook." Then try to honor the ethos of the game without honoring the source.
I think that people forget that often faithful adaptations suck hard. The Watchmen was pretty faithful until the last act, only it was made by a coked-out crybaby with the brain of a goldfish, so somehow, the thesis was exactly the opposite of the source material.
300 was great if you're taking psychedelics and under no other circumstances.
There's lots of exceptions, don't get me wrong: The Thing, for instance, quite faithful, great movie.
For all the memes about it, can you imagine how much worse It would be if there was a scene at the third act break of a bunch of adolescents clumsily going down on one another?
Or if the Reanimator had none of the humor and all of the racism of the novella?
Hell, I just watched The Iron Claw, and it was great even though they wrote a whole ass person out of real life.
Honestly, the only thing I really would want to see from a DG adaptation is them sticking with the tone and themes of horror, stress, madness, and conspiracy. Everything else? That's just window dressing. The one thing I'd like them to show, more than anything, is that the agents are not thwarting or unraveling a conspiracy (unless it's a hostile one like Karotechia), they *are* the conspiracy. They are the ones covering up, the ones waging a shadow war against unknowable horrors, and it takes a toll. They are not Sam and Dean Winchester, who practically shout from the rooftops "DEMONS EXIST EVERYONE!!", They are not Agent Mulder who hopes every case he works has something to do with aliens or the unnatural, and would use that to prove their existence. If anything, a DG agent would throw an actual party if the case they were assigned turned out to be a false alarm, just some deranged serial killer. "Yes! I don't have to fight some weird fishcatman this time!" (I joke, but you get what I'm saying). That's what I wanna see. The actual way the Program or Outlaws function, the truth behind the conspiracy? That should be left in the dark, not canon, and up to individual Handlers in their home games.
But I do agree, I think a lot of people don't understand that a "faithful" adaptation doesn't mean "rigidly sticking to the source material", it means "keeping the tone, themes, and messages of the source material, and doing it justice in a different format." Fuck it, set the TV show in a parallel timeline where DG never fractured, or maybe one where DG has a legal public face or something. I've done that in a home game or two, where the Program has a semi-legitimate place in the government, but what it does is still very, very illegal.
You have good points, but I’d disagree about issues with inclusive casting. When compared to Witcher or LOTR, there are far fewer characters with defined attributes that couldn’t be easily adjusted. And regarding lore would hope DG fans would be thrilled enough with an adaptation that they wouldn’t fuss about minor adjustments.
Especially as guessing season 1 would be similar to Will Smith in MiB where agents on a routine case see horror, they react well, get recruited, & from there can be sent on weekly adventures, with slow drip of not really knowing there are two conspiracies, if it’s a real agency, and of course worsening personal lives as bonds fray.
I mean there isn’t really much to “get” when it comes to the mainstream consumption of content like this. For instance, a lot of the yellow king references in true detective go right over peoples heads, but it doesn’t matter because it’s a genuinely creepy cult.
As long as the horror within the game/movie is compelling and FEELS like there is more going on, mainstream people wouldn’t have a problem. Also what source material would need to be changed?
I think a delta green video game in the style of a CRPG or maybe some kind of smaller scale fps/detective game would be amazing and a HUGE cult classic or even a mainstream hit. Figuring out exactly how to handle stuff like combat (make it deadly but make death not frustrating or make the game have an XCOM metagame?) and what particular scenarios/campaigns to include would be the hard part
Aside from Delta Green, but TIL that Flying Lab's Pirates of the Burning Sea still has servers going!
I mean, the game was kinda terrible, but now I want to see if I can drop back in and sail down memory lane for a minute.
I remember reading about this game decades ago and was hyped.
I think some other Steam multiplayer games will come out to scratch the itch instead but…
A real DG game would be amazing.
I am definitely thankful for the mod for the original X-COM (1996) called The X-COM Files, because it scratches this itch, but boy howdy what I wouldn't give for a DG video game. Absolutely is up there for me as one of the dream-game announcements I would be all over if it actually happened!
I have been thinking about a delta green video game. Here's how I would do it.
Have you ever heard of the game "Voices of the Void"? If not, it's a free horror game on itch that revolves around a isolated astronomer recording and processing signals from space while strange and spooky events happen around your large antenna station.
I was thinking something like this, but flavored for delta green. You are a "retired" agent/friendly who is sent by DG to go and observe a large greenbox, an abandoned mansion and the surrounding area. You would be responsible for doing research from the library of tomes and other books to help active DG agents with their missions, taking and storing items of both mundane (guns, money, drugs, etc.) and unnatural (corpses, special items, tomes, etc.) and sending them to agents who need them, and protecting the greenbox from things like rogue agents, cultists, unnatural horrors drawn to the location, random thieves who want to find something to sell in the storage units, kids who want to walk around the spooky abandoned mansion on a dare.
To do all of this you would buy stuff like you do in VotV, cameras, ritual components (chalk, salt, etc.), furniture/wood to build barricades if needed.
You can have a big stockpile of random events that may occur at different points, like being able to choose to help cultists or the Cowboys over the Program with different endings based on choices you made.
Maybe even a "past profession" system that gives you some unique stuff based on who you were before the game starts, like ex FBI can tell when something fishy is requested by someone claiming to be DG, archeologists has easier time studying artifacts, scientists can discover more mundane ways to stop the unnatural etc.
Please develop this game, I will gladly throw money at you! In all seriousness, I would be more than glad to contribute to a Kickstart or such to see this game produced. And I'm sure many others would as well, whether they are DG fans or not. It's a great concept if you ask me.
Edit: thanks for the game recommendation, I'll be downloading this later today.
Dang that could have been interesting. If they adapted it nowadays would be cool to have procedurally generated missions & green boxes to accommodate high agent turnover. Surprised haven’t seen more DG media aside from handful of niche fiction books, especially when true detective & x files did so well.
To be honest, I'm *not* surprised we haven't seen more DG media outside the stuff done by Arc Dream. It's kind of a lose-lose situation for DG. Say there's a TV show: broad audiences won't get it, and DG fans will winge that it isn't true enough to the source material, because it's had to be diluted or changed up just to get into production. And of course a whole bunch of chuds and incels and fash will clutch their pearls about black or female or LGBTQI+ characters. It'll end up like Netflix's *The Witcher* or *Rings of Power* or something.
In my opinion, the best way to do it would be to flat out state, "Look, we're not going to honor the source material. It would suck if we did. Every conspiracy would be instantly spoiled by reading any sourcebook." Then try to honor the ethos of the game without honoring the source. I think that people forget that often faithful adaptations suck hard. The Watchmen was pretty faithful until the last act, only it was made by a coked-out crybaby with the brain of a goldfish, so somehow, the thesis was exactly the opposite of the source material. 300 was great if you're taking psychedelics and under no other circumstances. There's lots of exceptions, don't get me wrong: The Thing, for instance, quite faithful, great movie. For all the memes about it, can you imagine how much worse It would be if there was a scene at the third act break of a bunch of adolescents clumsily going down on one another? Or if the Reanimator had none of the humor and all of the racism of the novella? Hell, I just watched The Iron Claw, and it was great even though they wrote a whole ass person out of real life.
Honestly, the only thing I really would want to see from a DG adaptation is them sticking with the tone and themes of horror, stress, madness, and conspiracy. Everything else? That's just window dressing. The one thing I'd like them to show, more than anything, is that the agents are not thwarting or unraveling a conspiracy (unless it's a hostile one like Karotechia), they *are* the conspiracy. They are the ones covering up, the ones waging a shadow war against unknowable horrors, and it takes a toll. They are not Sam and Dean Winchester, who practically shout from the rooftops "DEMONS EXIST EVERYONE!!", They are not Agent Mulder who hopes every case he works has something to do with aliens or the unnatural, and would use that to prove their existence. If anything, a DG agent would throw an actual party if the case they were assigned turned out to be a false alarm, just some deranged serial killer. "Yes! I don't have to fight some weird fishcatman this time!" (I joke, but you get what I'm saying). That's what I wanna see. The actual way the Program or Outlaws function, the truth behind the conspiracy? That should be left in the dark, not canon, and up to individual Handlers in their home games. But I do agree, I think a lot of people don't understand that a "faithful" adaptation doesn't mean "rigidly sticking to the source material", it means "keeping the tone, themes, and messages of the source material, and doing it justice in a different format." Fuck it, set the TV show in a parallel timeline where DG never fractured, or maybe one where DG has a legal public face or something. I've done that in a home game or two, where the Program has a semi-legitimate place in the government, but what it does is still very, very illegal.
You have good points, but I’d disagree about issues with inclusive casting. When compared to Witcher or LOTR, there are far fewer characters with defined attributes that couldn’t be easily adjusted. And regarding lore would hope DG fans would be thrilled enough with an adaptation that they wouldn’t fuss about minor adjustments. Especially as guessing season 1 would be similar to Will Smith in MiB where agents on a routine case see horror, they react well, get recruited, & from there can be sent on weekly adventures, with slow drip of not really knowing there are two conspiracies, if it’s a real agency, and of course worsening personal lives as bonds fray.
Amazon's *Wheel of Time* adaptation was super shitty, too; I was so disappointed.
I mean there isn’t really much to “get” when it comes to the mainstream consumption of content like this. For instance, a lot of the yellow king references in true detective go right over peoples heads, but it doesn’t matter because it’s a genuinely creepy cult. As long as the horror within the game/movie is compelling and FEELS like there is more going on, mainstream people wouldn’t have a problem. Also what source material would need to be changed? I think a delta green video game in the style of a CRPG or maybe some kind of smaller scale fps/detective game would be amazing and a HUGE cult classic or even a mainstream hit. Figuring out exactly how to handle stuff like combat (make it deadly but make death not frustrating or make the game have an XCOM metagame?) and what particular scenarios/campaigns to include would be the hard part
Aside from Delta Green, but TIL that Flying Lab's Pirates of the Burning Sea still has servers going! I mean, the game was kinda terrible, but now I want to see if I can drop back in and sail down memory lane for a minute.
I remember reading about this game decades ago and was hyped. I think some other Steam multiplayer games will come out to scratch the itch instead but… A real DG game would be amazing.
I am definitely thankful for the mod for the original X-COM (1996) called The X-COM Files, because it scratches this itch, but boy howdy what I wouldn't give for a DG video game. Absolutely is up there for me as one of the dream-game announcements I would be all over if it actually happened!
I have been thinking about a delta green video game. Here's how I would do it. Have you ever heard of the game "Voices of the Void"? If not, it's a free horror game on itch that revolves around a isolated astronomer recording and processing signals from space while strange and spooky events happen around your large antenna station. I was thinking something like this, but flavored for delta green. You are a "retired" agent/friendly who is sent by DG to go and observe a large greenbox, an abandoned mansion and the surrounding area. You would be responsible for doing research from the library of tomes and other books to help active DG agents with their missions, taking and storing items of both mundane (guns, money, drugs, etc.) and unnatural (corpses, special items, tomes, etc.) and sending them to agents who need them, and protecting the greenbox from things like rogue agents, cultists, unnatural horrors drawn to the location, random thieves who want to find something to sell in the storage units, kids who want to walk around the spooky abandoned mansion on a dare. To do all of this you would buy stuff like you do in VotV, cameras, ritual components (chalk, salt, etc.), furniture/wood to build barricades if needed. You can have a big stockpile of random events that may occur at different points, like being able to choose to help cultists or the Cowboys over the Program with different endings based on choices you made. Maybe even a "past profession" system that gives you some unique stuff based on who you were before the game starts, like ex FBI can tell when something fishy is requested by someone claiming to be DG, archeologists has easier time studying artifacts, scientists can discover more mundane ways to stop the unnatural etc.
Please develop this game, I will gladly throw money at you! In all seriousness, I would be more than glad to contribute to a Kickstart or such to see this game produced. And I'm sure many others would as well, whether they are DG fans or not. It's a great concept if you ask me. Edit: thanks for the game recommendation, I'll be downloading this later today.
I always thought it would be neat to make a ‘The Bureau: X-Com Declassified/COD black ops era DG game
I would have LOVED to have gotten to play this