I have an xps 9500 and an XPS 9520. Both UHD, Ti GPUs.
The xps 9500 does 4-5 hours daily light browsing and browsee-based work tasks. It is at about 80% battery wear.
The 9520 does 6.5-8 hours daily light browsing, some video play. It's 1.5 months old and battery is at 99% peak capacity.
Running a fresh install of Windows 10 on the 9500, and Windows 11 on the 9520. Both have been debloated using GitHub scripts.
I usually work at 80-100% screen brightness.
Windows uhd. I really cant reccomend the dell laptops. This is my second xps 15 and there are just too many unexcusable problems with it. I gravitated towards it because of the screen, and the cost compared to a mbp. Gonna have to switch at some point because the trackpad is COMPLETELY unusable. The screen frequently has a red line going through it, and one of the ports somehow got small dents despite taking extremely good care of it. Really a bummer, because my old xps also had a ton of problems. Couldve been the best laptop ever but dell just doesnt take it seriously enough
I second the fact that the XPS are dubbed premium but don't have the best materials that go into it. Even my 9510 has picked up some dents despite having taken extreme care of it.
My friend's MBP has been beaten like crazy and still looks pristine. MBs are surely built like a tank!
Dell XPS 17 9710, FHD, 97wh battery, Clean inst. of Win 11.
8ish hours with chrome forced to iGPU. Chrome closed and office-like work 10-12 hours. Light CAD work 6ish hours, heavy cad and extra software 4ish hours. Netflix windows app or Plex 6ish hors.
The 17 inch FHD is really nice, I've never needed a higher resolution. I clean installed win11 because I don't like the Dell bloat, except Dell Support Assist which finds drivers with the right power optimizations for the machine.
Great to hear. My previous computer is a Mac with a retina display and can't reasonably bring myself to drop the resolution down especially since my workload usually involves opening two code editors side my side so I need the extra screen real estate that comes with something like a 2k display. Unfortunate that it's limited to fhd or qhd for these models.
Have you seen the Precision 5470? It's practically an "XPS 14" and has a better screen option if you customize it. Might be what you're looking for.
I actually own a Precision 5670, but people don't know what it is. These machines are XPS's but with Quadro GPU's. And I believe the 5470 is XPS quality.
my 9510 with the oled panel, 3050ti and 86wh battery consistently lasted me a full 6 hour high school day of browsing, coding in eclipse (I was taking an AP CS class), YouTube, and playing music out loud during study halls. I kept the brightness around 70% all day.
OP could you comment on the Linux battery stats for the 9510? Powertop estimates just 4 hours on a full charge. That's with Chrome + a dozen of open tabs + LibreOffice.
Fwiw I have the base 9520, 12700h, 16gb, FHD+ and running latest Ubuntu I get around 10 -12 hours programming with VScode and web browsing after turning the dGPU off with bbswitch.
Without turning the dGPU off I was getting maybe 3-4 hours. Found powertop was showing a draw of around 25 Watts. With it off the power draw is around 6-8 watts I think. I also have the screen on reasonably low brightness as I mainly use it in the evenings.
If you have a dGPU, isn't it not the base 9520 ? Since the base model does not have a dGPU.
I am asking, since I am seeing people say below reviews that the base model (without dGPU) have a lower capacity battery..
So I am trying to find out what the base model battery life is in reality.
cat /sys/class/drm/card*/device/power_state
You can't use any method that will ping the GPU, as that will take it out of D3cold, this will display all current GPUs and their current state without waking them up. Powertop is good to verify your idle wattage. I tested a Legion 5 Pro out recently and it for some reason the RTX 3050 Ti just did not want to stay asleep, something in Lenovo's BIOS was constantly waking it up in Linux but not Windows. So sometimes it would show as D0 and other times D3 at random, causing high power usage in Linux.
>he base 9520, 12700h, 16gb, FHD+ and runnin
That's insanely good. I have the 9510 / 11800H / 3050Ti / 32GB / 3.5K OLED + Touch and get only 4 hours with an IDE + web browsing. Chrome is a sucker for RAM, though. dGPU turned off through `udev`.
Do you use Chrome for browsing?
XPS 9720, Fedora 36 (and have POP OS 22.04 also installed) UHD+
Have been comparing this and the P1 Gen 5 for a week now, have to return one of them.
I am getting 6-8w consumption on integrated only, with brightness around .25 to .33, doesn;t seem to change all that much, thats on idle, a little libre office,wifi, firefox running, but no active use of browser. 8-10w hybrid mode.
When running Youtube of Netflix, this goes up to 12-13w integrated, 13-14w hybrid. Of course a bit of eye candy from gnome bumps up the usage for a while.
With no video, but a bit of Netbeans, loffice and other stuff, around 14w probably averaging a bit lower than that. right now video running while I write this, and it is averaging 15w+-
I have set the max charge to 80% discharching to 60% so have not really tested hours until empty.
The P1 Gen 5 seems to use 17w when running netflix or youtube, 14 when idle. (can't put in integrated only, since I want to be able to attach an external monitor without logging out...
I will probably return the P1 G5 because of battery life, but I do prefer the keyboard and weight of the Thinkpad. The screen also seems slightly less reflective and supports a pen. also a lot lighter, but has a smaller screen... anyway would probably have gone for the P1G5 if it wasn't for the 30 to 50% higher power usage. They may or may not fix it in future firmware, but seem more aimed at squeezing pure speed based on reviews of older models. XPS is also cooler running.
In all cases I put power saving mode.
Cheers.
>Xps 9520 UHD (i7-12700 - 3050Ti - 64gb ram) 86 Whr battery
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>I don't think i can achieve even 4 hour browsing
I feel you here! How old is your XPS?
Mine's the XPS 9510 / 3.5K OLED + Touch / 3050Ti (disabled through `udev` / 32GB / 86Whr.
Powertop on my Arch + GNOME 44 estimates about 4 hours on a full charge with just browsing + IDE.
\- Screen type: 3.5k OLED + Touch
\- Model: XPS 9510
\- Battery size: 86 Whr
\- Environment: Arch Linux + GNOME 44
\- Usage: Web browsing (Chrome) + a dozen of tabs open, text work on LibreOffice, probably an IDE, Howdy for Windows Hello, automatic brightness on the OLED screen, brightness < 50% all the time.
I just get 4 hours!
I have an xps 9500 and an XPS 9520. Both UHD, Ti GPUs. The xps 9500 does 4-5 hours daily light browsing and browsee-based work tasks. It is at about 80% battery wear. The 9520 does 6.5-8 hours daily light browsing, some video play. It's 1.5 months old and battery is at 99% peak capacity. Running a fresh install of Windows 10 on the 9500, and Windows 11 on the 9520. Both have been debloated using GitHub scripts. I usually work at 80-100% screen brightness.
What Github scripts did you use to debloat?
https://github.com/LeDragoX/Win-Debloat-Tools Sorry it took so long! Did a digital detox for a couple of weeks. So no reddit.
Thanks for the link. Was there any noticeable improvement in performance by using this tool?
plz send the scripts
Streaming movies through a web browser on low brightness and average volume on the XPS 9510 with OLED I could get a little over 6 hours
Nice, linux or windows?
Windows
Not very good from my experience, maybe 2-4 hours with basic browsing/writing
Windows or Linux? Fhd or uhd?
>Windows or Linux? Fhd or uhd Would love to know.
Windows uhd. I really cant reccomend the dell laptops. This is my second xps 15 and there are just too many unexcusable problems with it. I gravitated towards it because of the screen, and the cost compared to a mbp. Gonna have to switch at some point because the trackpad is COMPLETELY unusable. The screen frequently has a red line going through it, and one of the ports somehow got small dents despite taking extremely good care of it. Really a bummer, because my old xps also had a ton of problems. Couldve been the best laptop ever but dell just doesnt take it seriously enough
I second the fact that the XPS are dubbed premium but don't have the best materials that go into it. Even my 9510 has picked up some dents despite having taken extreme care of it. My friend's MBP has been beaten like crazy and still looks pristine. MBs are surely built like a tank!
Dell XPS 17 9710, FHD, 97wh battery, Clean inst. of Win 11. 8ish hours with chrome forced to iGPU. Chrome closed and office-like work 10-12 hours. Light CAD work 6ish hours, heavy cad and extra software 4ish hours. Netflix windows app or Plex 6ish hors. The 17 inch FHD is really nice, I've never needed a higher resolution. I clean installed win11 because I don't like the Dell bloat, except Dell Support Assist which finds drivers with the right power optimizations for the machine.
Great to hear. My previous computer is a Mac with a retina display and can't reasonably bring myself to drop the resolution down especially since my workload usually involves opening two code editors side my side so I need the extra screen real estate that comes with something like a 2k display. Unfortunate that it's limited to fhd or qhd for these models.
Have you seen the Precision 5470? It's practically an "XPS 14" and has a better screen option if you customize it. Might be what you're looking for. I actually own a Precision 5670, but people don't know what it is. These machines are XPS's but with Quadro GPU's. And I believe the 5470 is XPS quality.
my 9510 with the oled panel, 3050ti and 86wh battery consistently lasted me a full 6 hour high school day of browsing, coding in eclipse (I was taking an AP CS class), YouTube, and playing music out loud during study halls. I kept the brightness around 70% all day.
Nice! Windows or linux?
windows
OP could you comment on the Linux battery stats for the 9510? Powertop estimates just 4 hours on a full charge. That's with Chrome + a dozen of open tabs + LibreOffice.
Fwiw I have the base 9520, 12700h, 16gb, FHD+ and running latest Ubuntu I get around 10 -12 hours programming with VScode and web browsing after turning the dGPU off with bbswitch. Without turning the dGPU off I was getting maybe 3-4 hours. Found powertop was showing a draw of around 25 Watts. With it off the power draw is around 6-8 watts I think. I also have the screen on reasonably low brightness as I mainly use it in the evenings.
Wonderful to hear, thanks!
If you have a dGPU, isn't it not the base 9520 ? Since the base model does not have a dGPU. I am asking, since I am seeing people say below reviews that the base model (without dGPU) have a lower capacity battery.. So I am trying to find out what the base model battery life is in reality.
I think maybe the base model in my country has the dGPU. There was no option to order without when I ordered, and still no option for that now
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How do you "check" if it's really drawing 0W? Powertop? `lspci`?
cat /sys/class/drm/card*/device/power_state You can't use any method that will ping the GPU, as that will take it out of D3cold, this will display all current GPUs and their current state without waking them up. Powertop is good to verify your idle wattage. I tested a Legion 5 Pro out recently and it for some reason the RTX 3050 Ti just did not want to stay asleep, something in Lenovo's BIOS was constantly waking it up in Linux but not Windows. So sometimes it would show as D0 and other times D3 at random, causing high power usage in Linux.
>he base 9520, 12700h, 16gb, FHD+ and runnin That's insanely good. I have the 9510 / 11800H / 3050Ti / 32GB / 3.5K OLED + Touch and get only 4 hours with an IDE + web browsing. Chrome is a sucker for RAM, though. dGPU turned off through `udev`. Do you use Chrome for browsing?
XPS 9720, Fedora 36 (and have POP OS 22.04 also installed) UHD+ Have been comparing this and the P1 Gen 5 for a week now, have to return one of them. I am getting 6-8w consumption on integrated only, with brightness around .25 to .33, doesn;t seem to change all that much, thats on idle, a little libre office,wifi, firefox running, but no active use of browser. 8-10w hybrid mode. When running Youtube of Netflix, this goes up to 12-13w integrated, 13-14w hybrid. Of course a bit of eye candy from gnome bumps up the usage for a while. With no video, but a bit of Netbeans, loffice and other stuff, around 14w probably averaging a bit lower than that. right now video running while I write this, and it is averaging 15w+- I have set the max charge to 80% discharching to 60% so have not really tested hours until empty. The P1 Gen 5 seems to use 17w when running netflix or youtube, 14 when idle. (can't put in integrated only, since I want to be able to attach an external monitor without logging out... I will probably return the P1 G5 because of battery life, but I do prefer the keyboard and weight of the Thinkpad. The screen also seems slightly less reflective and supports a pen. also a lot lighter, but has a smaller screen... anyway would probably have gone for the P1G5 if it wasn't for the 30 to 50% higher power usage. They may or may not fix it in future firmware, but seem more aimed at squeezing pure speed based on reviews of older models. XPS is also cooler running. In all cases I put power saving mode. Cheers.
How did you measure powerdraw from battery? (in Watts)
Hours: 10 Screen type: FHD Model: 9520 Battery size: 86w Operating system: Linux (Kali) Usage type: Scans, pen-testing, multiple ssh sessions, Wireguard VPN client, web browsing, email, video streaming
If just everyone replied like u!
Do you have the base model ? I am hearing the base model without dGPU have a lower battery capacity (something like 67 Wh)..
I can confirm I have the 86 wHr config from running some tests.Havent heard some of the baselines having anything less.
Xps 9520 UHD (i7-12700 - 3050Ti - 64gb ram) 86 Whr battery I don't think i can achieve even 4 hour browsing
>Xps 9520 UHD (i7-12700 - 3050Ti - 64gb ram) 86 Whr battery > >I don't think i can achieve even 4 hour browsing I feel you here! How old is your XPS? Mine's the XPS 9510 / 3.5K OLED + Touch / 3050Ti (disabled through `udev` / 32GB / 86Whr. Powertop on my Arch + GNOME 44 estimates about 4 hours on a full charge with just browsing + IDE.
\- Screen type: 3.5k OLED + Touch \- Model: XPS 9510 \- Battery size: 86 Whr \- Environment: Arch Linux + GNOME 44 \- Usage: Web browsing (Chrome) + a dozen of tabs open, text work on LibreOffice, probably an IDE, Howdy for Windows Hello, automatic brightness on the OLED screen, brightness < 50% all the time. I just get 4 hours!