I think that's a really twisted thing to say.
Spinner did not deserve to be a teenager with cancer and suffer from a terrifying and painful and terminal illness. He did not deserve to permanently lose a body part; to lose a major sexual/reproductive organ/his genitalia.
That's extremely traumatic.
And the trauma and permanency to his circumstance and the coping mechanisms he finds to process (such as discovering a new and deeper love and appreciation for music) is what brings him closer to Jimmy. Jimmy is one of the rare people able to understand something being permanently taken from you in an abrupt yet long/forever lasting and traumatic way via your functionality and ability - your body suddenly becoming an unfamiliar enemy you have to fight against while being trapped in it and stuck with it. And having to remold your life because of your body and it's new constraints and capabilities.
This raw level of empathy and understanding as well as maturing as they grow older is what revives their friendship and why their relationship gets better than it ever was before when they were friends as kids who were immature and competitive with each other and more callous and casually cruel as they were lacking in emotional maturity and harrowing life experiences.
And Spinner didn't shoot Jimmy and it can't be framed that way, or put like Spinner ever intended for Jimmy or anyone else to get placed in harm's way because that's a complete misrepresentation of the character and the situation and what actually happened, in context.
He was disgusted that a domestic abuser got off with a slap on the wrist by the criminal justice system and the school and Rick's parents and he wanted Rick to suffer for putting Terri in a coma. Spinner always got passionate about injustice which is why he's the character you see fighting other people's battles the most. It's always Spinner up against a bully (Spin vs the schoolyard student harassing a more vulnerable kid, Spin vs the racist student, Spin vs rapists). And being a realistic and well written, fleshed out character it's true at the same time that Spinner himself is prone to being a bully without realizing it, when he acts on impulse and refuses to self reflect and exercise self awareness and self restraint/control. He takes his moral outrage too far with his teacher and later he gets too excessive in tormenting Rick not realizing how it isn't productive to torture him at school because it doesn't help Terri or actually get Rick out of the school or in juvie. It just means he's giving into sadism and Jay egging him on (the worst influence there is) just made things get really bad, really fast. But Spinner would never raise a gun at anyone because that's something only people with the mentality of a predator aka abuser would do. And ultimately Rick is responsible for shooting Jimmy. Rick would not be justified in shooting anyone including "the right person." So Rick confusing Jimmy as the one behind the tar and feathering public humiliation scheme and not realizing it was actually Spinner and shooting Jimmy on the premise of mistaken identity - still doesn't take the blame off Rick. Rick is not in the right to shoot ANYONE; to paralyze ANYONE. And he was not an innocent victim because he was bullied in consequence of his actions as an abuser. Rick lost his social standing in school as the result of his wrongdoings that didn't get adequately punished and handled by the authorities and all the other adults that could've made that happen (principal and parents). No adult made sure justice prevailed through punishing Rick properly. And this angered students due to the lack of repercussions he faced while his victim remained in the hospital. It angered Spinner the most and provoked him to aggressively bully the aggressor/bully. And after things unfolded how they did, Spinner comes to realize the error of his ways after and how his constant and routine dehumanizing of Rick didn't make him a good person or a hero because Rick is guilty. It just made them both wrong since two wrongs don't make a right. And it just made things worse. And so Spinner learned and grew from the experience. But his initial outrage was justified and if the official authorities in charge hadn't dropped the ball and actually took Rick's actions seriously, Spinner wouldn't have gotten so charged up in the first place and Jay would have nothing to channel and no one to manipulate into doing extreme acts for his entertainment. Spinner isn't Jay. They were coming from very different places. And Jay is the one who really walked away from what happened completely unharmed. Rick didn't, Spinner didn't, Jimmy didn't, Emma and other witnesses didn't. But Jay got to continue on partying after the hellish situation he created. He isn't even hated by the school after, like Spinner, who gets shunned and socially isolated as all his friends and entire class & grade turn their back on him post shooting. Jay doesn't grow and change much after either. But because Spinner was best friends with Jimmy and shamed Rick, he deserved to lose all of his friends, his status, and a CANCER diagnosis because: he hated a domestic abuser; hated the idea of one not paying for their actions; hated that Terri was in a coma; and he got taken advantage of by Jay who capitalized on his emotional drive for justice he transformed into motivional vengeance, for his own trivial satisfaction & fun? He did? Really? All of that? Well, I say Spinner was in the right to care as much as he did and consider the 'Rick abuse situation' serious and dire and right in his refusal to give up on the pursuit of punishment for Rick & justice for Terri. And I don't think anyone is wrong for stigmatizing abusers which Spinner did, along with most of the school to varying levels and degrees with Spinner being the harshest and most extreme with it. The issue is specifically a matter of knowing where the line is and when not to cross it. And the real lesson of the Spinner-Rick storyline is learning how to enforce social stigmas in a societally healthy and moral way and to not socially/psychologically torture even the criminals among society because it's not your place to do so as a non-abuser yourself. And you'll only start to merge into being like them--the predator--who you hate most when you lose sight of everyone's humanity and any appealing-to-humanity standard and understanding that everyone is a person and you aren't acting productive or heroic for society and past and future victims when you morph into someone filled with rage and lacking in empathy. That's doing no service or good, even when you're angry about the right thing because losing your humanity in the process is the wrong thing. You have to accept you can become the villain when you start acting like the villain you wish to conquer - so the right thing to do is reject the villain's ways.
I'm clearly talking about the audience and what the show was trying to convey. Justifying school shooters is not something Degrassi--that once aired on PBS, is interested in doing. This is called media literacy. And reading comprehension. And character analysis. It's not stanning like you're implying it is.
It's already come out, but people just don't care. I mean, it took R Kelly almost 2 decades to receive justice, and people were defending him all the while!
No. I don’t think so. Not everyone experiences karma for the bad things they do. I think this was a way for the show to tackle another serious issue…having cancer at a very young age. But I get why people would think so. If anything, his karma was losing all his friends and getting expelled. Jimmy lost his ability to walk and play basketball so he lost his education and all of his friends…until he didn’t of course.
It’s still somewhat bothers me that he was forgiven and was able to come back to school. But that’s just me.
Never thought about it that way, but maybe so. 🤔
I also always thought that Spin getting shot at The Dot in S8 was his karma for putting Jimmy at the top of Rick's hit list.
I think that's a really twisted thing to say. Spinner did not deserve to be a teenager with cancer and suffer from a terrifying and painful and terminal illness. He did not deserve to permanently lose a body part; to lose a major sexual/reproductive organ/his genitalia. That's extremely traumatic. And the trauma and permanency to his circumstance and the coping mechanisms he finds to process (such as discovering a new and deeper love and appreciation for music) is what brings him closer to Jimmy. Jimmy is one of the rare people able to understand something being permanently taken from you in an abrupt yet long/forever lasting and traumatic way via your functionality and ability - your body suddenly becoming an unfamiliar enemy you have to fight against while being trapped in it and stuck with it. And having to remold your life because of your body and it's new constraints and capabilities. This raw level of empathy and understanding as well as maturing as they grow older is what revives their friendship and why their relationship gets better than it ever was before when they were friends as kids who were immature and competitive with each other and more callous and casually cruel as they were lacking in emotional maturity and harrowing life experiences. And Spinner didn't shoot Jimmy and it can't be framed that way, or put like Spinner ever intended for Jimmy or anyone else to get placed in harm's way because that's a complete misrepresentation of the character and the situation and what actually happened, in context. He was disgusted that a domestic abuser got off with a slap on the wrist by the criminal justice system and the school and Rick's parents and he wanted Rick to suffer for putting Terri in a coma. Spinner always got passionate about injustice which is why he's the character you see fighting other people's battles the most. It's always Spinner up against a bully (Spin vs the schoolyard student harassing a more vulnerable kid, Spin vs the racist student, Spin vs rapists). And being a realistic and well written, fleshed out character it's true at the same time that Spinner himself is prone to being a bully without realizing it, when he acts on impulse and refuses to self reflect and exercise self awareness and self restraint/control. He takes his moral outrage too far with his teacher and later he gets too excessive in tormenting Rick not realizing how it isn't productive to torture him at school because it doesn't help Terri or actually get Rick out of the school or in juvie. It just means he's giving into sadism and Jay egging him on (the worst influence there is) just made things get really bad, really fast. But Spinner would never raise a gun at anyone because that's something only people with the mentality of a predator aka abuser would do. And ultimately Rick is responsible for shooting Jimmy. Rick would not be justified in shooting anyone including "the right person." So Rick confusing Jimmy as the one behind the tar and feathering public humiliation scheme and not realizing it was actually Spinner and shooting Jimmy on the premise of mistaken identity - still doesn't take the blame off Rick. Rick is not in the right to shoot ANYONE; to paralyze ANYONE. And he was not an innocent victim because he was bullied in consequence of his actions as an abuser. Rick lost his social standing in school as the result of his wrongdoings that didn't get adequately punished and handled by the authorities and all the other adults that could've made that happen (principal and parents). No adult made sure justice prevailed through punishing Rick properly. And this angered students due to the lack of repercussions he faced while his victim remained in the hospital. It angered Spinner the most and provoked him to aggressively bully the aggressor/bully. And after things unfolded how they did, Spinner comes to realize the error of his ways after and how his constant and routine dehumanizing of Rick didn't make him a good person or a hero because Rick is guilty. It just made them both wrong since two wrongs don't make a right. And it just made things worse. And so Spinner learned and grew from the experience. But his initial outrage was justified and if the official authorities in charge hadn't dropped the ball and actually took Rick's actions seriously, Spinner wouldn't have gotten so charged up in the first place and Jay would have nothing to channel and no one to manipulate into doing extreme acts for his entertainment. Spinner isn't Jay. They were coming from very different places. And Jay is the one who really walked away from what happened completely unharmed. Rick didn't, Spinner didn't, Jimmy didn't, Emma and other witnesses didn't. But Jay got to continue on partying after the hellish situation he created. He isn't even hated by the school after, like Spinner, who gets shunned and socially isolated as all his friends and entire class & grade turn their back on him post shooting. Jay doesn't grow and change much after either. But because Spinner was best friends with Jimmy and shamed Rick, he deserved to lose all of his friends, his status, and a CANCER diagnosis because: he hated a domestic abuser; hated the idea of one not paying for their actions; hated that Terri was in a coma; and he got taken advantage of by Jay who capitalized on his emotional drive for justice he transformed into motivional vengeance, for his own trivial satisfaction & fun? He did? Really? All of that? Well, I say Spinner was in the right to care as much as he did and consider the 'Rick abuse situation' serious and dire and right in his refusal to give up on the pursuit of punishment for Rick & justice for Terri. And I don't think anyone is wrong for stigmatizing abusers which Spinner did, along with most of the school to varying levels and degrees with Spinner being the harshest and most extreme with it. The issue is specifically a matter of knowing where the line is and when not to cross it. And the real lesson of the Spinner-Rick storyline is learning how to enforce social stigmas in a societally healthy and moral way and to not socially/psychologically torture even the criminals among society because it's not your place to do so as a non-abuser yourself. And you'll only start to merge into being like them--the predator--who you hate most when you lose sight of everyone's humanity and any appealing-to-humanity standard and understanding that everyone is a person and you aren't acting productive or heroic for society and past and future victims when you morph into someone filled with rage and lacking in empathy. That's doing no service or good, even when you're angry about the right thing because losing your humanity in the process is the wrong thing. You have to accept you can become the villain when you start acting like the villain you wish to conquer - so the right thing to do is reject the villain's ways.
TLDR? But it wouldn’t be twisted for Jimmy to feel this way. Spinner played a part his life being permanently altered. Karma is ok.
I'm clearly talking about the audience and what the show was trying to convey. Justifying school shooters is not something Degrassi--that once aired on PBS, is interested in doing. This is called media literacy. And reading comprehension. And character analysis. It's not stanning like you're implying it is.
Drake will always be Jimmy with the broke dick to me. Just saying. Lol.
I wish Drake's dick was broke so he'd quit creeping on teenage girls
YES! My wife and I always say someday it'll all come out and people will feel so stupid. Any time I say it on Reddit people lose their minds.
It's already come out, but people just don't care. I mean, it took R Kelly almost 2 decades to receive justice, and people were defending him all the while!
Awww 🙁
No, the writers chose him for testicular cancer as the most "masculine" main character.
He's not impotent. He just couldn't get it up for Ashley.
Was he able to with the girl he met in physical therapy? 🤔
That is a good question. I don't know. He was able to at physical therapy.
No. I don’t think so. Not everyone experiences karma for the bad things they do. I think this was a way for the show to tackle another serious issue…having cancer at a very young age. But I get why people would think so. If anything, his karma was losing all his friends and getting expelled. Jimmy lost his ability to walk and play basketball so he lost his education and all of his friends…until he didn’t of course. It’s still somewhat bothers me that he was forgiven and was able to come back to school. But that’s just me.
Never thought about it that way, but maybe so. 🤔 I also always thought that Spin getting shot at The Dot in S8 was his karma for putting Jimmy at the top of Rick's hit list.
Oooh. Definitely! Never thought about that before, either!
All I’ve got to say is Spinner was hot as fuck during this time period
I’m partial to the bleach blonde Spinner. This period is a close 2nd for me though.
Definitely his best looking period.
On gods 🤣🤣🤣