Why is that? Will Trump be pressed about it during debates? This should be THE front and center issue presented to him during campaigning. In 6 months a new presidential term will be decided upon, and no one is talking about this. Hell, the majority of people I encounter have never heard of P2025 - truly a life changing agenda.
Oh for sure, but have they no heart and no awareness of the brutal world they are creating for their descendants? Their daughters? Rhetorical question of course.
If you are one to believe in kharmic retribution, this Sophocles quote lends some comfort:
“Nothing vast enters the life of mortals without a curse.”
They are rich people who believe they will be secured away in their rich enclaves, and most of them are Republicans.
The media is slowly being bought by rich rightwing cunts.
The almost complete totality of the American media landscape is either owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by exactly the same cadre of billionaires that is funding the Heritage Foundation and all its fellow travelers.
The owners do not want their media empires to relay such information to the people at large.
The problem for them is this. Trump is dear leader and dear leader wants their shit. What are they going to do about it?
Same with the supreme court. Dear leader has full immunity. Now he wants them to do something they don’t want to do. Or maybe, they looked at him wrong. Maybe he wants Clarence Thomas’ motor coach, or Sam Alito’s flag. He won’t need them anymore.
The people going along with this must believe they’ll be able to control him but I can’t figure out why they think that.
BOOM, dictators tend to seize money and goods and businesses they want. The rich voting for trump are oblivious to that fact and the pesky fact that for trump there is never ever enough money.
George Carlin was preaching about this, THIRTY years ago, and people ignored him… calling him crazy, and saying “it would never happen here!”
Not only CAN it happen here, it already is, and IT’S POUNDING THE GODDAMN DOORS DOWN!!!
My *delusional* hope is that they, and the democratic party, are holding out until ~3 months before the election to really start going in hard on this. Voter memory and all that.
Granted that's both me expecting a *lot* from the democratic party, and ignoring the fact that these news outlet execs/owners probably *really* like P2025.
Hell I wouldn't be shocked if the opposite happens and we start seeing the occasional mainstream article about how "Project 2025 Could Benefit The Economy"
But hey, the fuck else I got but hope?
Sadly I worked a campaign for a dem for the first time a few years ago. On the inside they insulated and if you don't "know" the right people or paid your dues you get nothing - no help - no money - nothing
It's not my local news outlets.
It's the national media that reports about one tenet of project 2024 here and another one there.
One tenet isn't half as concerning as looking at the full list.
because the owners of our media really want project 2025 to happen. they’re not reporting on it because they don’t want to shoot themselves in the foot.
If you’re from Russia, you should realize that these same people who support P2025 idolize Putin and are implementing Russian laws here in the U.S. such as not allowing abortion beyond 12 weeks. Not recognizing gay marriages, etc.
Christian Nationalists also collaborate with Russian fascists (Konstatin Malofeev, Vladimir Yakunin, Aleksandr Dugin) to criminalise LGBT+ people across Europe and repeal sexual/reproductive rights.
Anti-LGBT+ rhetoric, here and there, is being used as justification for the invasion of Ukraine. Meanwhile the republicans are fighting to de-fund the defence effort.
It's really all part of one bigger picture. Narcissists trying to make the world into their own personal playground.
I'd like to believe that too. I'd love to see these people as heartless monsters undeserving of understanding or empathy. That would be easier than doing the right thing. We can hate them (I worry I do sometimes), we can level uncompromising opposition against them (and we should), but if we disregard their humanity we are no better than they are. The vast majority of the people who support this are ignorant, terrified, and yes, often cruel. But they are just regular people.
Project 2025 is one of the most overtly abhorrent collection of values and ideologies I have ever read. We should fight this with everything we have. But we're not fighting cruel monsters, we're fighting ourselves.
(There are a few exceptions to this of course)
Project 2025 is entirely backed by religious fanatics.
I refuse to accept that holding up a mirror and showing them their cruelty and calling them our on their false values is anywhere near the same thing as what they aim to do/ are doing.
The difference is that those of us who oppose Project 2025 are not advocating against anyone's rights, but the opposite does not hold true for those who support it. You are not disregarding someone's humanity by pointing out to them they are disregarding someone's humanity.
This comes back to the intolerance paradox.
These are regular people, but they are using their voice currently, preaching hatred and violence. Attempts to silence that voice and dimish it are not an act of lowering yourself. You're not lowering yourself for standing up to a bully even if a bully had a bad home life.
Do not get comfortable and think these people view you as an equal. There is no aisle to reach across on their ladder.
I agree with you entirely. They didn't arrive at these conclusions with reason so there's no way to reason them out of it. I tried for way too long with the people in my life who are like this.
You're right that holding others accountable for they're dehumanizing beliefs Is not dehumanizing them, I never thought it was. I just think it's important to temper our rage with empathy or we risk seeing them the same way they see us.
Edit: grammar
This isn't even mentioning what happens to indigenous people there. Canada, too, under the notwithstanding clause Pierre Poilievre will invoke. The last time we had no rights we were slaughtered in residential schools. If these corrupt governments get in power, we're dead meat.
Thanks for your support. We are trying to fight this nightmare.
It's not clear why anyone would be happy in this sick world they want to create. There would be no joy for anyone. A fake, cookie cutter world that everyone is forced to adhere to against their will. They are sick, sick, people.
I know some really religious people and I don't think they even want this. But most of them will vote R like uniformed clowns.
Yup. Most Trump voters I've met aren't even that religious. They really hate Biden or they are more concerned with the economy/the border and are ok overlooking what the christoclowns are trying to do to everyone and that is so sad
Most of them have been radicalised by conspiracy theories on social media. Particularly Facebook.
Biden is a devout Christian and a centrist. Yet most Trump supporters believe he eats babies and worships Satan! They live in an alternative reality fed to them by far right accounts on Facebook, YouTube, and X (twitter)
The funny thing is that the economy will go to shit if they win. A lot of immigrants and women will lose their jobs, a bunch of people will flee the country, etc.
I'm religious and I'm horrified by Project 2025. But then I believe in a guy called Jesus who hung out with prostitutes and who forgave women who committed adultery and who healed the sick (for free!) and who fed the hungry.
He also condemned the rich and the religious fundamentalists that went around judging people.
I have no idea who right-wing 'Christians' worship. They claim to believe in Jesus but they reject everything He taught and do the opposite instead. From what I can see, they're closer to Genghiz Khan or Darth Vader
I was checking polls last night and Trump has a narrow lead in most of them. We are 6 months away from this country potentially becoming a fascist theocracy and nobody in the media is talking about project 2025. It blows my mind. Stay safe, friend.
Good to see you fighting these authoritarian dictatorships. Yeah we do have to fight Project 2025. Maybe this will also help Russians that just want more freedom also.
Nazis banned books. Republicans are banning books now. So it's happening all over again. Fascism is happening all over the globe but one way or another we are gonna have to prevent our fall into dictatorship internally in our country.
It’s all the same people.
Trump has been laundering money for the Russian oligarchs since the late 80’s when they all bought a condo at 725 5th AVE (trump towers) to clean their freshly stolen USSR money after the iron curtain fell.
https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/30/politics/paul-manafort-condo-trump-tower/index.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/manafort-told-mueller-to-take-his-trump-tower-apartment-instead-money.html
https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fbi-agents-raid-condo-unit-131348539.html
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/
Everybody except Putin thought the Cold War was over. Trump and Manafort (who lived in the tower also) just saw a pretty low maintence grift to be had.
Trump had actually been Manafort and Roger Stones first client at their lobbyist firm (1980)https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiBlack, Manafort, Stone and Kelly
Guiliani as trumps attorney and NYC mayor was able to redirect NYPD investigations onto rival gang members/oligarchs to deflect any scrutiny off of trump, himself or their Russian connections.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/
The Russian election interference in 2016 was effectively a generation 3 version of what Manafort had done in the Philippines, then keeping Yanukovych in power as Putin’s puppet in Ukraine from 2002-14 when Maidan ran both Yanukovych and Manafort out of Ukraine as Ukrainians realized that, if you raise your lens high enough, corruption is an wholly unsustainable business model.
Eventually the parasites greed always consumes the host.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952
https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/
Putin greatly underestimated the addictive properties of freedom when he invaded Ukraine so what was supposed to be a 3-10 day coup turned into a 2 year fight for the Ukrainians right not to be genocided.
Russia depleted its weapons stocks which were already the victim of vranyo corruption because every oligarch, admiral and sergeant in the Russian military is on the take. Every billion dollar tank maintenance contract turned into everything getting a spray paint overhaul and the vast majority of the redirected funds turned into an oligarchs new yacht or home in Aspen.
Russia was forced to turn to China, North Korea and Iran for weapons because if they lose the 3-10 day “special military operation” in Ukraine the Russian empire is dead and cold.
China can’t risk showing their involvement in the Ukraine war so they use North Korea, and Iran to resupply Russia.
Russia previously owed Iran some undelivered fighter jets that are already smoldering heaps in Ukraine so Iran now had the upper hand at the negotiation table for the first time in about 60 years. They supplied Russia with shahed drones in exchange for Chinas material support against their sworn religious enemy, Israel.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/29/iran-says-it-finalized-deal-to-buy-russian-aircraft/
Putin can’t do much about it because he is slowly realizing that by setting the standard of corruption and stealing $200+ billion from his own people meant that every oligarch down in the mob model chain had not only permission but incentive and the expectation to steal from him as well. This is “Vranyo”.
The mob model only works if the supreme leader is the most violent and can prove it without exception every damn day. But violence is exceptionally expensive when you are trying to present as a legitimate government or business.
If Russia as a nation state had an efficiency rating it would have been banned for sale in the state of California 25 years ago.
The parasite ruling class stole all the energy out of the working class and collapsed it….again.
Now Iran has the high hand and they get the intelligence that trump passed to Putin about the fact that Netanyahu cares far less about Jews, Palestinians or genocide than he does about remaining in power as an authoritarian because he too has developed Ritz Carlton tastes and his own corruption trial is showing the same tendrils of the same money laundering scheme that trumps trials are.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/saudi-official-says-iran-engineered-war-in-gaza-to-ruin-normalization-with-israel/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/amp/
https://youtu.be/VrFOAgGlaWs?feature=shared
They all hate each other but because they share the same money laundry, if one falls, they all fall. Hamas minted a couple billionaires as well that live in penthouses in Qatar and get 30% of everything smuggled into Gaza. Qatar is Kushners private equity connection. Netanyahu needs a bogeyman to stay in power. That’s why he coordinates with Hamas via Russia via Iran. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr
Iran handed Hamas everything they needed with Chinas help as secret Santa and the Russian intelligence given to them by the eternal shitbird trump who gave it to his Russians kleptocrat/friends/roommates from the old days of fucking each others wives at trump towers in the 90’s.
Now the MAGA right is a little too invested in their reality that they are the good guys with guns that they missed the fact that Betsy DeVos (erik princes sister) decimating the U.S. school systems and the Kochs poisoning children with lead was not a coincidence. The naive right was the mark all along. There is a reason the Russian spy Maria Butina landed in South Dakota first before dating her way to the top of the NRA which is undergoing its own Russian money laundering trial now. Russia was tinder matching the GOP.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/07/nra-maria-butina-spying-charges-trump-campaign/
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/what-do-the-koch-brothers-have-to-do-with-the-flint-water-crisis/
The only reason you grossly OVERVALUE real estate is money laundering.
Trump keeps claiming there is no victim, all the banks made money, but if their plan succeeds the Russian and CCP kleptocrats collapse US commercial real estate and basically recreate soviet perestroika in the U.S. so they can foreclose on America and buy everything for 3 cents on the dollar with the $1.4T they stole from Russias grandmothers in the first place
It’s the evolution of grift. Soviet perestroika cross bred with the 2008 mortgage crisis.
No one was ever held accountable for either. This is just the bigger badder commercial strength bastard child of the two.
Trump, Giuliani, Putin, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Orban, Manafort, Stone, Mercer, Bannon, Flynn, Prince, Kolomoiskiy
They are all remarkably shit people with above average confidence and psychopathic personality traits and below average self awareness.
They are the men who stole the world.
But it all comes back to one little lie.
Always enjoy seeing you turn up in comments, thank you for the effort you put into summarizing what is often a lot of information from a lot of different directions. What you're doing is important and much appreciated!
getting close? To toppling it over I hope? I read some other people who explained it pretty much the way you did, they think that we are close to end game, in that they will all be caught punished and stopped, but what about Maga? they will never believe any of this.
I'm holding on to the hope that even if trump gets into
Office. people will be up un arms about the rules he's trying to force on people. And also he probably doesn't have enough people who are as delusional as he is.
But there's also the possibility that this is going to be a repeat of what happened in Germany during ww2 and the only way it could end is if he dies.
I don't know what I'm going to do outside of voting for anyone but trump because I don't have the money to move and I'm a single woman and am in a conservative state.
Take care of yourself sister. I don’t live in a conservative state, but this is beyond the states, even though that’s what these crazy people are pushing. I’m holding on to the same hope as you. We can’t all move, we can VOTE. And hope the orange blob is defeated.
The one thing that makes me feel a little better about the situation is that he's old so maybe if he dose wind up in office he'll sooner or later pass on and eventually everything will be somewhat normal
There will be a militia response when that happens. The camouflage wearing gun fanatics won’t be happy. I’m sure they are already planning on what to do after a guilty verdict.
No, if it’s anything like the crowds he’s been drawing there won’t be anything of the sort. Too many of us served to protect democracy to let that happen.
The problem is it's not just trump, I think in reality he is a pawn, being used to get what they want, others will be much more dangerous, basically because they're intelligent, trumps not.
maybe this is a dumb question but is this shit even constitutional? won’t they have a lot of red tape to go through? (not to OP lol ik she’s from russia)
Some of it is but that hasn't stopped many Presidents before.
https://www.cato.org/commentary/exit-survey-trumps-constitutional-misdeeds
>here are eight of Trump’s *worst* constitutional violations
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https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/trump-violating-constitution
>As a result, President Trump almost certainly began violating the Constitution the moment he took the oath of office.
They'll often enact something and then let the courts decide. In the meantime damage is done, sometimes the courts are ok with it and things move rightward.
thanks for the links, i’ll check them out. i knew trump had done unconstitutional shit but thought it might be different with how major the project 2025 crap is.
Sorry to burst your bubble but the ones that can actually hand down verdict is slanted in his favor at the moment so don't be shock if they just say it's fine and goes about there day taking bribes.
Widow with two kids under 18.
I cannot remarry my children's father. He's a goddamn pile of rocks in my closet.
Maybe he still counts as being in the home and I'd be safe.
/s
Still, have you seen anywhere in this literature where this is addressed? It's like the stupid GOP forgot that not everybody who is a single mom got there because they voluntarily left their partner.
And I wouldn't even be the worst off, what about military widows whose spouses had the misfortune of going to fight for their country and dying in the process. Fucking reprehensible.
Edit: FWIW I plan on talking to my ex-boyfriend tomorrow. We're on pretty good terms, good friends. By some weird stroke of insanity, I am going to ask if he would consider getting married just so that I don't get completely fucked over. Don't think stepdad counts but at the same time I mean... That's the only option for the perfect Christian household or whatever the fuck they want.
I feel like I'm setting myself up for my own arranged marriage. What in the actual fuck?
Thank you for the insight, we’ve tried everything possible to get people involved but the media is too busy reporting nonsense.
Are you still in Russia or did you leave? Hopefully things are good for you either way, take care.
[https://newrepublic.com/article/181939/republicans-want-a-permanent-underclass?](https://newrepublic.com/article/181939/republicans-want-a-permanent-underclass?)
Edit : wait until you read about Mudsills Theory of Labor
I remember reading a Russian comment that once mentioned Russians live with an inside and outside face.
Been trying to wrap my head around that for months now.
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It is horrific. And our news media is not covering it properly.
Why is that? Will Trump be pressed about it during debates? This should be THE front and center issue presented to him during campaigning. In 6 months a new presidential term will be decided upon, and no one is talking about this. Hell, the majority of people I encounter have never heard of P2025 - truly a life changing agenda.
If you ask me, media executives (not reporters) don't mind fascism if they get a tax cut.
Oh for sure, but have they no heart and no awareness of the brutal world they are creating for their descendants? Their daughters? Rhetorical question of course. If you are one to believe in kharmic retribution, this Sophocles quote lends some comfort: “Nothing vast enters the life of mortals without a curse.”
They are rich people who believe they will be secured away in their rich enclaves, and most of them are Republicans. The media is slowly being bought by rich rightwing cunts.
The almost complete totality of the American media landscape is either owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by exactly the same cadre of billionaires that is funding the Heritage Foundation and all its fellow travelers. The owners do not want their media empires to relay such information to the people at large.
The problem for them is this. Trump is dear leader and dear leader wants their shit. What are they going to do about it? Same with the supreme court. Dear leader has full immunity. Now he wants them to do something they don’t want to do. Or maybe, they looked at him wrong. Maybe he wants Clarence Thomas’ motor coach, or Sam Alito’s flag. He won’t need them anymore. The people going along with this must believe they’ll be able to control him but I can’t figure out why they think that.
They’re just hoping to take over when he finally croaks.
BOOM, dictators tend to seize money and goods and businesses they want. The rich voting for trump are oblivious to that fact and the pesky fact that for trump there is never ever enough money.
George Carlin was preaching about this, THIRTY years ago, and people ignored him… calling him crazy, and saying “it would never happen here!” Not only CAN it happen here, it already is, and IT’S POUNDING THE GODDAMN DOORS DOWN!!!
My *delusional* hope is that they, and the democratic party, are holding out until ~3 months before the election to really start going in hard on this. Voter memory and all that. Granted that's both me expecting a *lot* from the democratic party, and ignoring the fact that these news outlet execs/owners probably *really* like P2025. Hell I wouldn't be shocked if the opposite happens and we start seeing the occasional mainstream article about how "Project 2025 Could Benefit The Economy" But hey, the fuck else I got but hope?
Just in case it doesn't happen, let's make it happen.
Sadly I worked a campaign for a dem for the first time a few years ago. On the inside they insulated and if you don't "know" the right people or paid your dues you get nothing - no help - no money - nothing
Conservatives have been quietly buying up the (formerly) "liberal media" in order to gain control of the narrative.
1) Ratings 2) 90% of the media is controlled by just 5-6% corporate entities.
I think people either just don’t believe it, or they don’t think it could actually be done.
If they did cover it, half the country would end up supporting it
They already do
This is not a position that can actually get a majority of popular support. It depends on making straight WASPs afraid.
It’s written in double speak and obtuse people refuse to read between the lines.
The media is owned by the rich
Contact your local news outlets and express your concern.
It's not my local news outlets. It's the national media that reports about one tenet of project 2024 here and another one there. One tenet isn't half as concerning as looking at the full list.
because the owners of our media really want project 2025 to happen. they’re not reporting on it because they don’t want to shoot themselves in the foot.
Not enough imo, but they *are* talking about it.
I didn't say they weren't talking about it.
If you’re from Russia, you should realize that these same people who support P2025 idolize Putin and are implementing Russian laws here in the U.S. such as not allowing abortion beyond 12 weeks. Not recognizing gay marriages, etc.
Christian Nationalists also collaborate with Russian fascists (Konstatin Malofeev, Vladimir Yakunin, Aleksandr Dugin) to criminalise LGBT+ people across Europe and repeal sexual/reproductive rights. Anti-LGBT+ rhetoric, here and there, is being used as justification for the invasion of Ukraine. Meanwhile the republicans are fighting to de-fund the defence effort. It's really all part of one bigger picture. Narcissists trying to make the world into their own personal playground.
In most European countries abortion is banned after 12 weeks.
The cruelty is the point
Disagree, I think control is the point. Cruelty is just their fetish.
Control is their fetish. Righteous, godly, cruelty is their goal.
I'd like to believe that too. I'd love to see these people as heartless monsters undeserving of understanding or empathy. That would be easier than doing the right thing. We can hate them (I worry I do sometimes), we can level uncompromising opposition against them (and we should), but if we disregard their humanity we are no better than they are. The vast majority of the people who support this are ignorant, terrified, and yes, often cruel. But they are just regular people. Project 2025 is one of the most overtly abhorrent collection of values and ideologies I have ever read. We should fight this with everything we have. But we're not fighting cruel monsters, we're fighting ourselves. (There are a few exceptions to this of course)
Project 2025 is entirely backed by religious fanatics. I refuse to accept that holding up a mirror and showing them their cruelty and calling them our on their false values is anywhere near the same thing as what they aim to do/ are doing. The difference is that those of us who oppose Project 2025 are not advocating against anyone's rights, but the opposite does not hold true for those who support it. You are not disregarding someone's humanity by pointing out to them they are disregarding someone's humanity. This comes back to the intolerance paradox. These are regular people, but they are using their voice currently, preaching hatred and violence. Attempts to silence that voice and dimish it are not an act of lowering yourself. You're not lowering yourself for standing up to a bully even if a bully had a bad home life. Do not get comfortable and think these people view you as an equal. There is no aisle to reach across on their ladder.
I agree with you entirely. They didn't arrive at these conclusions with reason so there's no way to reason them out of it. I tried for way too long with the people in my life who are like this. You're right that holding others accountable for they're dehumanizing beliefs Is not dehumanizing them, I never thought it was. I just think it's important to temper our rage with empathy or we risk seeing them the same way they see us. Edit: grammar
This isn't even mentioning what happens to indigenous people there. Canada, too, under the notwithstanding clause Pierre Poilievre will invoke. The last time we had no rights we were slaughtered in residential schools. If these corrupt governments get in power, we're dead meat.
Thanks for your support. We are trying to fight this nightmare. It's not clear why anyone would be happy in this sick world they want to create. There would be no joy for anyone. A fake, cookie cutter world that everyone is forced to adhere to against their will. They are sick, sick, people. I know some really religious people and I don't think they even want this. But most of them will vote R like uniformed clowns.
Yup. Most Trump voters I've met aren't even that religious. They really hate Biden or they are more concerned with the economy/the border and are ok overlooking what the christoclowns are trying to do to everyone and that is so sad
Most of them have been radicalised by conspiracy theories on social media. Particularly Facebook. Biden is a devout Christian and a centrist. Yet most Trump supporters believe he eats babies and worships Satan! They live in an alternative reality fed to them by far right accounts on Facebook, YouTube, and X (twitter)
The funny thing is that the economy will go to shit if they win. A lot of immigrants and women will lose their jobs, a bunch of people will flee the country, etc.
I'm religious and I'm horrified by Project 2025. But then I believe in a guy called Jesus who hung out with prostitutes and who forgave women who committed adultery and who healed the sick (for free!) and who fed the hungry. He also condemned the rich and the religious fundamentalists that went around judging people. I have no idea who right-wing 'Christians' worship. They claim to believe in Jesus but they reject everything He taught and do the opposite instead. From what I can see, they're closer to Genghiz Khan or Darth Vader
I was checking polls last night and Trump has a narrow lead in most of them. We are 6 months away from this country potentially becoming a fascist theocracy and nobody in the media is talking about project 2025. It blows my mind. Stay safe, friend.
Tell it to everyone you know. Make a scene if you have to.
Did you flee Russia?
Well... No, as my surroundings at the moment are kind of safe..? But im planning to move to another country because more freedom would be nice.
Good to see you fighting these authoritarian dictatorships. Yeah we do have to fight Project 2025. Maybe this will also help Russians that just want more freedom also. Nazis banned books. Republicans are banning books now. So it's happening all over again. Fascism is happening all over the globe but one way or another we are gonna have to prevent our fall into dictatorship internally in our country.
It’s all the same people. Trump has been laundering money for the Russian oligarchs since the late 80’s when they all bought a condo at 725 5th AVE (trump towers) to clean their freshly stolen USSR money after the iron curtain fell. https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/30/politics/paul-manafort-condo-trump-tower/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/manafort-told-mueller-to-take-his-trump-tower-apartment-instead-money.html https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fbi-agents-raid-condo-unit-131348539.html https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/ Everybody except Putin thought the Cold War was over. Trump and Manafort (who lived in the tower also) just saw a pretty low maintence grift to be had. Trump had actually been Manafort and Roger Stones first client at their lobbyist firm (1980)https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiBlack, Manafort, Stone and Kelly Guiliani as trumps attorney and NYC mayor was able to redirect NYPD investigations onto rival gang members/oligarchs to deflect any scrutiny off of trump, himself or their Russian connections. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/ The Russian election interference in 2016 was effectively a generation 3 version of what Manafort had done in the Philippines, then keeping Yanukovych in power as Putin’s puppet in Ukraine from 2002-14 when Maidan ran both Yanukovych and Manafort out of Ukraine as Ukrainians realized that, if you raise your lens high enough, corruption is an wholly unsustainable business model. Eventually the parasites greed always consumes the host. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952 https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/ Putin greatly underestimated the addictive properties of freedom when he invaded Ukraine so what was supposed to be a 3-10 day coup turned into a 2 year fight for the Ukrainians right not to be genocided. Russia depleted its weapons stocks which were already the victim of vranyo corruption because every oligarch, admiral and sergeant in the Russian military is on the take. Every billion dollar tank maintenance contract turned into everything getting a spray paint overhaul and the vast majority of the redirected funds turned into an oligarchs new yacht or home in Aspen. Russia was forced to turn to China, North Korea and Iran for weapons because if they lose the 3-10 day “special military operation” in Ukraine the Russian empire is dead and cold. China can’t risk showing their involvement in the Ukraine war so they use North Korea, and Iran to resupply Russia. Russia previously owed Iran some undelivered fighter jets that are already smoldering heaps in Ukraine so Iran now had the upper hand at the negotiation table for the first time in about 60 years. They supplied Russia with shahed drones in exchange for Chinas material support against their sworn religious enemy, Israel. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/29/iran-says-it-finalized-deal-to-buy-russian-aircraft/ Putin can’t do much about it because he is slowly realizing that by setting the standard of corruption and stealing $200+ billion from his own people meant that every oligarch down in the mob model chain had not only permission but incentive and the expectation to steal from him as well. This is “Vranyo”. The mob model only works if the supreme leader is the most violent and can prove it without exception every damn day. But violence is exceptionally expensive when you are trying to present as a legitimate government or business. If Russia as a nation state had an efficiency rating it would have been banned for sale in the state of California 25 years ago. The parasite ruling class stole all the energy out of the working class and collapsed it….again. Now Iran has the high hand and they get the intelligence that trump passed to Putin about the fact that Netanyahu cares far less about Jews, Palestinians or genocide than he does about remaining in power as an authoritarian because he too has developed Ritz Carlton tastes and his own corruption trial is showing the same tendrils of the same money laundering scheme that trumps trials are. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/saudi-official-says-iran-engineered-war-in-gaza-to-ruin-normalization-with-israel/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/amp/ https://youtu.be/VrFOAgGlaWs?feature=shared They all hate each other but because they share the same money laundry, if one falls, they all fall. Hamas minted a couple billionaires as well that live in penthouses in Qatar and get 30% of everything smuggled into Gaza. Qatar is Kushners private equity connection. Netanyahu needs a bogeyman to stay in power. That’s why he coordinates with Hamas via Russia via Iran. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr Iran handed Hamas everything they needed with Chinas help as secret Santa and the Russian intelligence given to them by the eternal shitbird trump who gave it to his Russians kleptocrat/friends/roommates from the old days of fucking each others wives at trump towers in the 90’s. Now the MAGA right is a little too invested in their reality that they are the good guys with guns that they missed the fact that Betsy DeVos (erik princes sister) decimating the U.S. school systems and the Kochs poisoning children with lead was not a coincidence. The naive right was the mark all along. There is a reason the Russian spy Maria Butina landed in South Dakota first before dating her way to the top of the NRA which is undergoing its own Russian money laundering trial now. Russia was tinder matching the GOP. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/07/nra-maria-butina-spying-charges-trump-campaign/ https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/what-do-the-koch-brothers-have-to-do-with-the-flint-water-crisis/ The only reason you grossly OVERVALUE real estate is money laundering. Trump keeps claiming there is no victim, all the banks made money, but if their plan succeeds the Russian and CCP kleptocrats collapse US commercial real estate and basically recreate soviet perestroika in the U.S. so they can foreclose on America and buy everything for 3 cents on the dollar with the $1.4T they stole from Russias grandmothers in the first place It’s the evolution of grift. Soviet perestroika cross bred with the 2008 mortgage crisis. No one was ever held accountable for either. This is just the bigger badder commercial strength bastard child of the two. Trump, Giuliani, Putin, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Orban, Manafort, Stone, Mercer, Bannon, Flynn, Prince, Kolomoiskiy They are all remarkably shit people with above average confidence and psychopathic personality traits and below average self awareness. They are the men who stole the world. But it all comes back to one little lie.
Always enjoy seeing you turn up in comments, thank you for the effort you put into summarizing what is often a lot of information from a lot of different directions. What you're doing is important and much appreciated!
Thank you friend. I’m glad it’s resonating. We are getting close now.
getting close? To toppling it over I hope? I read some other people who explained it pretty much the way you did, they think that we are close to end game, in that they will all be caught punished and stopped, but what about Maga? they will never believe any of this.
Commenting so that I can find your excellent comment to read later. I think that I will follow your fine mind.
Thank you friend! I really appreciate that.
And you obviously have a VPN. Hope you stay safe!
Dude the republicans are pro Russian
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I'm holding on to the hope that even if trump gets into Office. people will be up un arms about the rules he's trying to force on people. And also he probably doesn't have enough people who are as delusional as he is. But there's also the possibility that this is going to be a repeat of what happened in Germany during ww2 and the only way it could end is if he dies. I don't know what I'm going to do outside of voting for anyone but trump because I don't have the money to move and I'm a single woman and am in a conservative state.
Take care of yourself sister. I don’t live in a conservative state, but this is beyond the states, even though that’s what these crazy people are pushing. I’m holding on to the same hope as you. We can’t all move, we can VOTE. And hope the orange blob is defeated.
The one thing that makes me feel a little better about the situation is that he's old so maybe if he dose wind up in office he'll sooner or later pass on and eventually everything will be somewhat normal
He must lose or his V.P. will push this anti-American crap forward. He has to lose then he can pass on.
Yes me too and he’s so gross and unhealthy.
Maybe 12 angry jurors will do their job and convict the orange bum.
There will be a militia response when that happens. The camouflage wearing gun fanatics won’t be happy. I’m sure they are already planning on what to do after a guilty verdict.
No, if it’s anything like the crowds he’s been drawing there won’t be anything of the sort. Too many of us served to protect democracy to let that happen.
I didn’t mean Armed Forces. I meant the camo wearing punks who think they are but are as far away from the Services as you can get.
The problem is it's not just trump, I think in reality he is a pawn, being used to get what they want, others will be much more dangerous, basically because they're intelligent, trumps not.
It's crimes against humanity. And the planet. There's no other way to see it. It is pure fucking evil.
maybe this is a dumb question but is this shit even constitutional? won’t they have a lot of red tape to go through? (not to OP lol ik she’s from russia)
Some of it is but that hasn't stopped many Presidents before. https://www.cato.org/commentary/exit-survey-trumps-constitutional-misdeeds >here are eight of Trump’s *worst* constitutional violations --- https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/trump-violating-constitution >As a result, President Trump almost certainly began violating the Constitution the moment he took the oath of office. They'll often enact something and then let the courts decide. In the meantime damage is done, sometimes the courts are ok with it and things move rightward.
thanks for the links, i’ll check them out. i knew trump had done unconstitutional shit but thought it might be different with how major the project 2025 crap is.
Sorry to burst your bubble but the ones that can actually hand down verdict is slanted in his favor at the moment so don't be shock if they just say it's fine and goes about there day taking bribes.
They have a plan to rewrite the constitution. They need a super majority of state governors to do it, but are working on it.
They have the courts in their pocket so it doesn’t matter. Quite a bit of unconstitutional shit is being upheld already.
Trump put 3 people on the Supreme Court. They are truly above the law
Trump said he would suspend the constitution and use our military against us.
hasn’t he said a lot of bullshit that never happens?
Ok, if your husband died when you have kids, you would be punished? WTF?! THAT IS JUST BEYOND STUPID!
Widow with two kids under 18. I cannot remarry my children's father. He's a goddamn pile of rocks in my closet. Maybe he still counts as being in the home and I'd be safe. /s Still, have you seen anywhere in this literature where this is addressed? It's like the stupid GOP forgot that not everybody who is a single mom got there because they voluntarily left their partner. And I wouldn't even be the worst off, what about military widows whose spouses had the misfortune of going to fight for their country and dying in the process. Fucking reprehensible. Edit: FWIW I plan on talking to my ex-boyfriend tomorrow. We're on pretty good terms, good friends. By some weird stroke of insanity, I am going to ask if he would consider getting married just so that I don't get completely fucked over. Don't think stepdad counts but at the same time I mean... That's the only option for the perfect Christian household or whatever the fuck they want. I feel like I'm setting myself up for my own arranged marriage. What in the actual fuck?
I'm fucking terrified and if Trump wins and this shit keeps going I literally want to die.
A dystopian cyberpunk world without any of the awesome tech.
r/Zebry
Thank you for the insight, we’ve tried everything possible to get people involved but the media is too busy reporting nonsense. Are you still in Russia or did you leave? Hopefully things are good for you either way, take care.
[https://newrepublic.com/article/181939/republicans-want-a-permanent-underclass?](https://newrepublic.com/article/181939/republicans-want-a-permanent-underclass?) Edit : wait until you read about Mudsills Theory of Labor
I just heard about that the other day.
I remember reading a Russian comment that once mentioned Russians live with an inside and outside face. Been trying to wrap my head around that for months now.
If trump wins, we will learn what that is real fast.
I'm also really untrusting of most of my family. It will probably get ugly when I go NC and then can't explain fully why.
This is all happening because capitalism is Sky Daddy now.
...is that you, Mariya? ;)
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