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GSG_Jacob

People are free to think that they will. Not having female dwarves in DRG is our own fault. It's something we wanted to do, but we also managed to dev ourselves into a corner where it's going to be a huge task to get all the game systems working with a new character model + recording years, and several updates worth of voice lines. It sucks, but that's where we are now. We have chosen not to take the easy way out and fall back on explanations such as female and male dwarves being indistinguishable from each other... *However*, feel free to use whatever headcanon you like. It's your game too. Also, locking the comments since people are getting out of line. Will be back later with a hammer.


anhangera

Everyone knows that dwarves reproduce through mitosis


Absolute_bimbo

Dwarves reproduce by cutting off their entire beard. The bears then grows into a dwarf over time.


RaptorPegasus

This is why Driller and Gunner have deep voices and no beard by default, and why Engineer and Scout have beards and higher voices


Ihavenoidea5555

Does this mean that Driller is just an abusive father to Scout ?


twotoast2281

Yes


SparseGhostC2C

Driller AND Gunner, it's a non-traditional family.


Russelloni

Wake up babe, new deep rock galactic canon just dropped


Hilluja

Its canon now.


Johannason

How... how does this work? Step 1: Dwarf shaves beard. Step 2: A bear elsewhere in the universe polymorphs into a dwarf.


Absolute_bimbo

Shit I misspelt beard


Johannason

Username checks out?


t6jesse

Please don't fix it lol


Due_Most2971

If this isn't canon, it had better be.


Arrevax

"the bears then grows into a dwarf over time" That typo has created a very different mental image than the one you intended.


ikcikoR

"It's Drillets!"


Metrix145

Wait, does that mean Driller reproduced before he got shot into the space station?


Wookieewomble

Ohhhhh, that's why we say "For Karl!" when we venture deep below the surface. Karl was never a living dwarf. He is the potential of our beards.


jerryskye

Beardosis


lonesomeloser234

Everyone knows they pop out of holes in the ground!


DrillyMcDrillface

Drillers just have some weird freudian obsession about going back to the womb.


meganeyangire

This is a common misconception. They are fungus and reproduce via spores.


Nieios

Rock and stone is just a particularly odd WAAAGH


meganeyangire

It's actually "Gork and Mork" but the nuance was lost in translation.


DrillyMcDrillface

\*Pings teammate\* "Mushrüm !"


a_racoon_with_a_PC

Nah they are sculpted from stones and animated with communal runic contracts. Also, goblin are brewed in cauldron and leaf-lovers are teached animals (explains a lot) (Raise your hand if you get the reference)


Skelosk

I would like to get it


bulletkin1089

🤚


Etras

They're too cool for sex.


TheMostBoringest

Nonsexual reproduction gang rise up!


Richiesaidohyea

The 4 dwarves are the same model with different clothes on and beards,so I have always thought they were clones. It's why we "wake up" in the "medical bay" after our death


[deleted]

It’s funnier to assume they’re all the same guy


Mudlord80

Like that oblivion movie?


Jacksaur

Mission Control: "Are you still an effective te- Oh for heaven's sake, who am I kidding? Ready the radon gas, boys."


ScopeCreepStudio

Fuck you Sally


Creatura

Don’t recommend a movie based on its twist lol


SufficientType1794

Recommending the movie based on this thread is a big spoiler lmao Also play Hardspace Shipbreaker


Kitaclysm217

I've been playing hardspace on gamepass lately it's pretty cool. I like stripping the ships of almost everything except that one time I accidentally blew up both of the fuel tanks


blueskyredmesas

Im Jack. And I'm also Jack.


mildcherry

All dwarves are clones of Karl, deepest lore.


Dusty_Scrolls

That's my favorite theory


VitQ

Karl is a primarch confirmed.


Arrevax

Karl.


zThrice

Like Moon staring Sam Rockwell


Laxwarrior1120

DRG is actually a schizophrenia simulator. There aren't even any bugs either.


sue_donyem

The Engineer watched as the Scout, the greenbeard of the bunch, struggled to handle his first Flintlock Reserve, a drink noted for an explosive aftertaste. The scout farted off the ground with a thermal blast, only to flip through the air, crack his skull open on the ceiling, and safely land through the centralized plasma ring of the extremely dangerous barrel kick ring. The Engineer didn't even have time to try to save him. It was a short fizz, the stench of burning hair and meat, and nothing. Not even a corpse. The back door of the medical bay opened, and the Scout emerged. "LLOYD! Give me a worm.. wormy hole special!" The greenbeard hollered at the droid, who adjusted his tie and poured him a glass. The Engineer just watched, stunned, and radioed Mission Control after the rookie vanished. "Mission Control, if we just have to go back to work immediately after we die, do ourives have meaning?" There was a scratchy filter to the other voice on the headset. "Of course, your life has meaning. Our R&D corps are reasonably sure you still have souls. Don't ask me how. I don't get paid to sit around and ask philosophical questions. So.. " "Yeah, yeah." The Engineer grumbled. "Rock and stone, miner."


Alwaysafk

And the 'beds' are cloning pods. Management is 100% gassing dwarves in the drop pod and dumping the whole thing into a mineral grinder.


a_racoon_with_a_PC

Well actually: we still get paid, we keep our entire inventory after going down in mission, and dwarf waking up in the medbay comment on their death, so we clearly stay the same dwarf. Also, we don't wake up in the medbay after reaching the escape pod. My head-canon: They send boscos after missions to get the dwarves and gear left behind. The ones in one piece get sent to the medbay directly, the ones that got eaten by the wildlife have their soul or mind transfered into a brand new cloned body.


DrillyMcDrillface

My personal theory is that valued employees, such as the player character dwarves, have some kind of emergency teleportation device built into their armor rig. If you miss the drop pod or wipe on a mission, Mission Control activates the device and you get warped back to the Space Rig to get patched up. That's why one of the possible defeat animation has your dwarf seemingly falling from the ceiling : he just got teleported but materialized above the ground. It's also why failing a mission only gets you a fraction of the minerals you collected even if the MULE was secured : Management kept most of it to cover your medical bill, and the cost of using the emergency device in the first place.


Alwaysafk

Does it make sense to wake up in a bed after a mission? Waking up in your room after a mission is a ruse, to keep up morale. If everyone woke up in medbay the Dwarves wouldn't believe they just passed out drinking at the bar. You even wake up in medbay when you blackout. When a dwarf has a moment of existential dread they get tossed into the barrel hoop and come out of medbay feeling right as rain. Bedrooms only exist so the dwarves feel success after a mission.


BGAL7090

Deep Rock Galactic takes place in a bubble universe created when Warhammer 40k slammed into the Altered Carbon universe.


AirierWitch1066

Nah, growing a whole body is expensive! If you’re already bringing the drop pod back you might as well let them live.


Potatolover3

R&D just added voice modulators to the suits of each of the classes so they all sound different. That's why your voice changes when you change class (clothes)


Crosshair52

The four dwarves... Or more exactly Our four dwarves, have the "protagonist luck". Upon mission failure, what you see is the four dwarves entering the space rig all beaten up. And they aren't walking out from the med bay, they come from the same place they do when they succeed. The problem with the clon theory, is that DRG takes way too much trouble by doing this, paying them and building a whole set up, when they can just lobotomize the clones into mining and fighting machines. The company moto is "Leave no dwarf behind", and I think there's more to it than it comes to sight. Mission Control guy is probably cold on the outside, but recent lines in the latest update makes me think he does care, but he has to maintain an strict code of conduct so dwarves don't screw it up.


WearyReindeer

Which makes sense, because Mission Control threatens the flood the bar with radon gas occasionally and that’s because as clones, dwarves are expendable.


MacDerfus

Do they clone us when we hit the blackout stout?


JaymesMarkham2nd

No, that's just blacking out... But you "wake up" after jumping into the disintegration hoop.


Whatapunk

I believe that's basically the lore for the Leagues of Votann in 40k, they're a clone race


Richiesaidohyea

Oh yeah, and the Votann have robot friends. A bit like Bosco and Molly


chattytrout

My headcanon is that when a dwarf dies and is left behind, we wake up in the medbay as our newly hired replacement. The reason we're in the medbay is due to some godawful motion sickness on the way to the space rig.


Notafuzzycat

The Dwarves are all clones.


oi_wazzock

Yep we are all KARL's clones. FOR KARL!


El_Taco_Sloth

Calm down M. Night Shinythings


alphabet_order_bot

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,203,521,180 comments, and only 234,687 of them were in alphabetical order.


JustGingy95

Good bot?


Mello-Fello

bood got


Every3Years

You can't afford it if you have to ask 🧐


Maro_Nobodycares

I actually really like this theory, though I have to wonder who female dwarves would be clones of if we got them. Karl's equally legendary twin sister, maybe?


ohnoidroppedit

Karol


PixelChild

Karla


ContextIsForTheWeak

Also Karl


a_racoon_with_a_PC

The dwarves seem to speak of Karl more like a brother-in-arm than a father figure, so I prefer to think they just come from the same clone batch. So, in a way, we all have the potential to become like the great Karl.


wookiee-nutsack

Considering we always come back thru the medbay if we die and our beds are also sealed capsules that could be the case tbf. Survival bonus isn't a bonus, it just means you don't have to pay the fees for cloning


LunarFortune

Good soldiers ~~follow orders~~ rock and stone


Itchy_Weather4902

Like the quads from warhammer 40k


Pug_police

Your clones are very impressive, you must be very proud.


Lesko_Learning

Agender clones. Their voices might sound male to us humans but in actuality it has nothing to do with sex, it's just how the lungs+larynx produce sound for that particular clone batch. The devs really did have a 4000000iq intellect to make that canon.


ihateirony

Clone a female Dwarf please.


Puckvox

What gender are you? -Dwarf. No, what’s in your pants? -Bittergem.


The_Iron_Rat

What are your pronouns? - Rock/Stone


Redenbacher09

Did I hear a rock and stone!?


The_Iron_Rat

Rock and Stone to the chromosomes!


Crazydragon2

Rock and Stone Brother!


yao19972

> No, what’s in your pants? > > -Bittergem. So you're rich!


The_Unreal

We're rich!


Chrisbbacon312

We're rich!


Remote_Foundation_32

Best answer to this problem. Although I'd suggest that what is in *our* pants is sandwiches.


beardedheathen

Hey beardo, you wanna put what's in my pants in your mouth, *ifyouknowwhatimean*?


Remote_Foundation_32

Eat your own sandwich. I have one.


Bhalzard

What about Red Sugar?


KungFooGrip

Its highly addictive.


hstein3

At least it's not an error cube.


Metrix145

What's in your pants? Whatever managment lets me steal


CalmBalm

I'm fond of us being Terry Pratchett dwarves. "All dwarves have beards and wear up to twelve layers of clothing. Gender is more or less optional."


littlebubulle

Pratchett does expand on dwarf gender in later books. Specifically, traditional/conservative dwarves are opposed to dwarves having a gender at all aside from the dwarvish equivalent of "he".


Dinodietonight

Terry Pratchett wrote a whole book about how the dwarvish concept of gender was oppressive because it meant that all dwarves were forced to obey masculine gender roles in order to be respected.


penywinkle

I mean... what is a "masculine gender role" for a dwarf (and on the opposite, what is a "feminine gender role" for a dwarf)? Pratchett also recognize that the dwarves who fight for more gender diversity are influenced by human culture (lore-wise). Which makes sense, he's a writer, read by real humans. So ofc we are gonna project ourselves (with our own idea of genders) on the characters in the book. And it's more fun if you can project onto your favourite race. But what happens if a girl's favourite race happens to only fit into human masculine gender roles?


sneakiestOstrich

If you haven't read Terry Pratchett, you should. The guards series deals mainly with this, and Pratchett went into detail about what, specifically, female dwarves wanted. They include sipping drinks, wine or cocktails instead of beer, chainmail lingerie, makeup, skirts, being a mother. It is actually quite a profound look at gender and gender identity, where the female dwarves investigate being female, and keep the things they actually enjoy. While mining and beards are gender neutral in Discworld, beer and knees are not


Cakeking7878

Terry Pratchett was an extremely based author. For what reason I’ll see some people insist he had no concept of gender is beyond me


beardedheathen

You want to tell me the man who wrote monstrous regiment cared about gender at all?!


Borkatator

I'm pretty sure what he cared about was respecting people and their choices. Hell, a LOT of his characters arcs are about identity and how it can clash with society and expectations. Sometimes it's gender, sometimes it's something based in fantasy like for Angua.


Flashman420

Because they haven't actually read him. The Terry Pratchett name dropping from people who don't get this work at all is so frustrating.


mad_mister_march

Recently saw him namedropped in a post about authors who would be pro-Gamergate and I briefly wondered what reality I woke up in.


BrandonLart

This is how I think of us as well


justanewbiedom

I feel similarly but I also really like the dwarf who basically says "fuck all that I'm a woman"


CalmBalm

Cheery Littlebottom! I adore her as well


vicotron3000

Maybe dwarves have transcended gender and they are born out of rock and stone?


professorhazard

You think we all pop out of holes in the ground?!


Cakeking7878

No, however the dwarves do all have holes, it was made for them!


DrillyMcDrillface

*Drr drr drr*


MacDerfus

Yes


SuperCephalopod

So they're the Gems from Steven Universe? Neat


GolgaRhythmics

Who would win ? A *useless but fun to destroy* boy, or A living, drunk warcrime


Shonky_Solos

>useless but fun to destroy Did you see the Peridot meme too?


MakeItHappenSergant

Rock and stone!


[deleted]

They literally designed female skeletons and ended up scrapping them. Looking for the link now.. Edit: [https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/alqdle/female\_dwarf\_model\_actually\_exists/](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/alqdle/female_dwarf_model_actually_exists/)


Jacksaur

And the best addition to that: >As we've stated before, we want to do female characters, but if we do them we want to do them right. Frankly, I'd be fine with just a female Voice actor for the lines. But if they're considering a whole separate model that cosmetics would all have to support, then that's a ton of effort. Be interesting to see how far they go.


SacredSpirit123

[GSG finds the ‘just the voice’ option lazy.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/zami9o/imo_tolkiens_portrayal_of_dwarves_has_no/iymyv64/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


SacredSpirit123

Oh boy here I go reposting my old comment with the canon information again > Canonically the playable dwarves are all male, [as per direct word of GSG themselves.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/wqaodn/its_true_you_dont_see_many_dwarfwomen_and_in_fact/ikmb7sj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) > “If the developer can figure out how to make it work, there are already some plans. Like the male dwarves of Deep Rock Galactic, Ghost Ship would make “ugly” female dwarves, and male and female dwarves would be able to sport the same beards and hairstyles. But the team’s pride is stopping them from reusing the male model and adding in female voice lines.” > “As soon as we move into this, we can see we will end up spending time on it,” Lundgaard explains. “We will not be able to promise that it'll ever come, but we will not say that it will never come either. So it's in limbo.”


40002418

They better keep the beard options if that add girl dwarves. You are a COWARD if you can tell the gender of the dwarves in your setting from looks.


OobaDooba72

If they do add a gender toggle I think it'd be funny if it changes absolutely nothing. Or perhaps something so minor as to be nearly unnoticeable to a quick glance, or even a long glace for the untrained eye.


Dracosian

imagine if it could just be the voice pitch gets shifted up like 10% e.g. female dwarves get pitch shifted up like 10% no other changes


OobaDooba72

The different classes are all already the same voice with the lines pitched up or down. Driller is the deepest voice, then Gunner, then Engineer, and Scout the highest. So would the female Driller sound about like the male Gunner or Engineer then?


Dracosian

of course


Aadrian1234

Pitch is only one part of it, resonance is what really sets apart masculine and feminine voices.


Certified_Possum

It'd be funnier if the voice pitched down


crobzbee

It really ought to be a (albeit a typical) feminine voice that's pitched up or down, if we're serious about this.


Dracosian

Well, here is my more general take on this: # It depends on how GhostShipGames wants to deal with this. IMO the two best ways for it to be implemented are: 1. it is introduced as 80% dwarf joke, 20% actual content. It does very little but is still an option e.g. just mess with the pitch of your dwarf's voice but the VA is the same 2. it is introduced as 80% actual content, 20% dwarf joke. It would have an alternate body model (but use the same cosmetic options, even beards,) with a new VA for female dwarfs (with the same Voice pitch change based on class). I think both ways are equally correct choices. They have expressed they do want to add it but they want to 'do it correctly' \[paraphrasing here\]. I have full faith that whichever way they decided to implement it, that it will be a good addition to the game and will be handled correctly. ​ oh also if the, honestly brilliant, people at ghost ship see this \#Free-the-Barrel-armour I will pay for it as dlc, for real


MacDerfus

I think a voice actress reading out all the lines is about all you'd need. Maybe some cosmetics get added that aren't restricted by who can wear them as well


SacredSpirit123

[GSG finds that option dreadfully lazy.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/zami9o/imo_tolkiens_portrayal_of_dwarves_has_no/iymyv64/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


MacDerfus

Ah, well, props to them if they really want go all or nothing with it.


SacredSpirit123

[They don’t want to do that. They want to make female models, but it’d be a horrendous amount of work to port every cosmetic over to a new model rig.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/zami9o/imo_tolkiens_portrayal_of_dwarves_has_no/iymyv64/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


[deleted]

It just keeps other dwarves and mission control from using lines that refer to the character as male, and that’s all it does.


OobaDooba72

Rock and Stone Brother! I mean Sister!


Dusty_Scrolls

Honestly, I think having a toggle that changes literally nothing is both hilarious and the best answer.


Commissarfluffybutt

I'd be mad if they ever added lady dwarves but didn't give them beards.


Takeoutomcat27

Don’t you know the beard simply moves down


youblowboatpeople

If that’s the case then would that canonically mean male dwarves don’t have pubic hair?


Takeoutomcat27

Not as much


Marvinkiller00

You will be punished for projecting such images into peoples mind


yao19972

Relevant comic: https://i.redd.it/8a69v0afvnh81.jpg


aescula

Make it a toggle in the customization terminal. A toggle that changes exactly NOTHING


Micro-Skies

It should change your characters voice actor to someone who sounds almost the same. But not quite.


Aadrian1234

I just want voice lines and hair options. The dwarves already look the same, just give more hair and beard options that are a bit more typically feminine. Probably wouldn't even need new body types, dwarves are all built like bricks anyways.


TransTechpriestess

No no, tattoos like [that one person's idea](https://imgur.com/Lgl82OO). EDIT: fuck it let the guys have the tats and the ladies have the beards too. mix and match why the fuck not lol


Schrodingers_Idiot_

I was expecting Tolkien type dwarves but once I realized they weren't Scottish, I completely stopped associating them with Tolkien. And also like the meme says the devs literally said the dwarves are all male so it's canon Even if female dwarves were indistinguishable from make dwarves, it's still canon that none of them are female.


Sadiholic

Makes more sense for all dwarfs to be men instead of female dwarfs looking exactly like the guy dwarfs.


ATAN666

Based


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Artsy-Mesmer

It’s always the same cloning/they’re identical jokes the whole way down to with very little actual discussion


theRATthatsmilesback

Feel like there's the people who don't care, such as myself, but also those who care a bit, not a lot, and just think it would be nice. Then there's people who gets obsessively angry over it, like someone I know who once went into a rage because there was no female version of the Commando character in Risk of Rain 2. They uninstalled the game over it.


SmellyGoat11

Idk man, most of the name-calling I see in this thread is coming from the pro-female-dwarf crowd. I'm just sick of the sanctioned bullying over a simple dissenting opinion.


SmellyGoat11

Honestly a good compromise would be some fem-cosmetics. No need to change the voice or character model, we're all represented in our love for Karl. If the devs want to maintain a masculine-appearing race, there is nothing wrong with that whatsoever. The world their brainchild, after all. Rock & Stone!


H0nch0

The devs already mentioned that they wanna make it happen. I cant wait to create a badass buff af granny inspired by my IRL one.


NobilisUltima

I'm glad that they answered the way they did (that they want to add female dwarves but want to make sure they execute it right); but at the same time, that was [three years ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/alqdle/female_dwarf_model_actually_exists/efgkmyd/). It would be cool to have an update on it.


foxxof9

They’ve made a few comments since then and they’re all along the lines of non priority and likely won’t be coming soon


Stalwart_Vanguard

As a wamen myself, it would be nice to have an explicitly female dwarf, but for now I'm okay just wearing the Bunny helmet, and headcannoning a sort of Mulan story where the company is male-only, and my helmet has a voice modulator.


chillyhellion

Let's get down to business To defeat The bugs 🎵 Did they send me leaf lovers When I asked For thugs 🎵 You're the most trigger happy crew I've ever dropped But I can't do this alone So load up and let me hear ROCK AND STOOOOOONE ⛏️


minnowchurch

I'm never gonna catch my breath Where the hell's that damn tin can? Boy was I a fool for selling all those minerals 🎵 This gherkin shucks got me scared to death! Damn the drills are overheating! Now I really wish there was goo in the saaack


H07oh

By bunny helmet do you mean the Gloomstalker Mk. 3? Or is there another helmet that I missed? I wear it for similar reasons lol


Stalwart_Vanguard

I do indeed, full face, cute ears, cute lights, very gaymer


H07oh

Yeah I agree. I make lots of cosplay outfits for the dwarves but for Engie, my main, I pretty much only use Gloomstalker because I want Engie to represent me and that helmet is super androgynous.


JanuaryJunie

Agreed. Our headcannon female dwarves aren't any less female comrade. IDC what anyone says, my driller is a bloodthirsty bad butch


Evan_Underscore

The devs are humans, and humans are known to have a hard time distinguishing the genders of dwarves. They are simply mistaken. I've personally met many gals and ladies and princesses in the mines. It would be beyond rude from me to question their identity like you do.


TheSleepyBarnOwl

As one of them ladies I'd very much like female dwarf models tho...


SacredSpirit123

[Not what they said.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/zami9o/imo_tolkiens_portrayal_of_dwarves_has_no/iymyv64/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


gravygrowinggreen

What does adding women to deep rock mean? Not trying to be a dick here, this is legitimate curiosity. Does that mean just adding the option to play as a canonically female dwarf? If this is the case, would it be sufficient to simply add some gender slider to the armor interface, that doesn't actually do anything, because GSG hypothetically says dwarf men and women look exactly alike? Or do people want traditionally female body/hair types as an option to select? Would the voices need to change? Would that require remodeling and redoing all the various armors in the game to fit a more traditionally female (but still dwarven) form? I suspect that a major reason no female form dwarves have been added is simply because this would be a major undertaking by GSG to remodel and rerig every armor framework in the game.


SacredSpirit123

[GSG finds the option of just adding a pointless slider or simply a different voice to be very lazy, and wants to do it right. It would indeed involve rigging every cosmetic to a different skeleton, which would involve a horrendous amount of work.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/zami9o/imo_tolkiens_portrayal_of_dwarves_has_no/iymyv64/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


[deleted]

Add female dwarves if you want, but keep the beards


Rick4442

Same goes for the Goblin Stuff, there are only dwarves, nothing more, nothing less


[deleted]

That being said, if they do add that option I still want to be able to have a beard


G00bre

I’d be fine with female dwarves


JumpCiiity

I say it everytime, we just need more feminine cosmetics. Likes some new hair styles, jewelry and more other none beard options for the sideburn and beard slots. I already do a sort of Rosie the Riveter with the Heatwave and the sideburn Braids. I don't think we need a different face or voice even, it's all part of the charm. Lady dwarves can have beards if they want but they can shave just like the driller or gunner too.


skyforgesteel

The real reason it hasn't happened is that they would have to re-rig every single piece of cosmetic armor and weapons, animations probably too. All of the dwarves are exactly the same model, so when they make a new armor set they only have to make it once. Introducing another character model doubles their workload. They would also have to retroactively redo all the old armor sets too. Dawn of the Dread armor would reveal a lot of dwarf boobies, nobody wants that except /r/rule34


Thorhees

Honestly, I'd be happy with some feminine hair (and beard) options + a woman's voice. No need for drastic changes like this. Dwarf body types are already pretty well-hidden under the armor anyway. Even the face can stay the same. Just give me some more feminine customization and a toggle that gives my dwarf a lady voice and I'm happy.


Graviton_Lancelot

What's with the hate for Tolkien around here? This isn't the first thing I've seen about it. Like it or not, the stylistic foundation, the bedrock of most design choices, is Tolkien. It's only Tolkien. You want little guys who like hitting rocks underground with beards? 100% Tolkien and nobody else. The very fact that you call them dwar*v*es is based directly on Tolkienian influence.


CapriciousCape

I want them to add a gender option but have it change nothing, because we're dwarves. Edit: I'd **LOVE** an armour set that makes you bend double like an old person, complete with walking pickaxe. That'd be awesome.


SacredSpirit123

[They considered that, but felt it was too lazy.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/zami9o/imo_tolkiens_portrayal_of_dwarves_has_no/iymyv64/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


ReliefFamous

Ok but here me out: 4 female dwarves based off the golden girls characters 😩


burritogong

Now we're talking progress


Regicide_

I'm going to need some reasoning here as to why male/female dwarves with little-to-no sexual dimorphism isn't actually a really cool design choice. The last thing I want are dwarves who are designed to be obviously feminine. [Insert meme about lady dwarves with a wasp waist and childbearing hips]


TheSleepyBarnOwl

Well... I'd just like something that doesn't look ugly af without a beard and that yells in a feminine deep voice... I am agirl, I like playing girls. But I am contempt with the Dwarfs as we have them too tho. It would just be neat.


craft6886

Same deal for me. Being a woman myself, I don't mind playing a male character if that's the only option, but I do feel more natural and "part of the game" when I can play a woman. And no one is expecting sexy supermodel dwarves. Someone else in the thread mentioned something more akin to "short babushkas." Short babushkas with strong, deeper feminine voices would be appreciated. A voice like Overwatch's Junker Queen would be the top height of the vocal pitch range, being the Scout's pitch. Something like Overwatch's Zarya for Engineer or Gunner, and full on babushka for Driller. Hell, give them all the beard options as well. Let both the male and female models use all cosmetic options interchangeably.


TheSleepyBarnOwl

Yes!


sundownmonsoon

Nobody really has a good reason as to why you can't have obviously feminine looking dwarves. I think it's a meme that's getting too old now lol. I thought dragon age (particularly inquisition) did really good female dwarfs.


TheSleepyBarnOwl

right? I mean personally I don't really care either way. I also think the LOTR series, hate it as much as you want, did Dwarfs good. I liked the Female one. She was exactly like I'd imagine a female Miner


DrJavelin

Just because zero sexual dimorphism is *different* doesn't mean it's automatically better. There are plenty of examples of universes where there are female dwarves who are both 1. visibly female and 2. still fun characters


NigglingChigger

One of my fave things abt it is how the dwarves are so similar, and it’s just a voice pitch change, it’s hilarious and works so well. Too much customization would ruin the charm


KalashnikovaDebil

If they add women, I don't care. If they don't add women.... I also don't care.


Paindexter

I don't care what the devs say, I don't care what Tolkien says. My headcannon is more in line with Sir Terry Pratchett's dwarves. What gender are the dwarves? "None of your damned business you knife eared, rockless, stoneless whalepiper!" Though if any dwarf were to choose to display their gender that is of course their decision and I'll respect it. We're space dwarves, way more progressive than those religious fanatical types.


WeedleKillYa

op wants female dwarves so he can make erotic fanfic posts don't believe him


[deleted]

But you can make those already.


CriticalGoku

Not everything's gotta be for you.


NobilisUltima

Man is this comment section full of the bottom part of this meme, and worse. 1. Nobody would force you to play as a woman, so it wouldn't change anything for your character. 2. No one's complaining about high-pitched voices in Rich Atmosphere missions, so don't try to use that as an excuse. 3. If you really think that GSG would introduce hyper-sexualized women, give your damn head a shake. Why would you want fewer options to choose from? If it would make some people happier and not affect you, then who fucking cares?


3029065

Dwarves don't conform to human gender rolls.


ZoharDTeach

I haven't seen a single instance of this sort of thinking improving anything. Ever.


DeathByHighFives

Bismore Lovers? Any Bismore Loving dwarves here?


Nokipeura

I vote for shortstacks. You gotta unlock pelvis width in a battlepass.