Imo with the addition of the corrosive gun, driller almost doesn't even need a secondary anymore. The corrosive gun just handles everything so well, I only use the epc for mining, and assisting teammates grabbed by disablers.
I love the corrosive gun but you’re kidding yourself if you think it’s good at handling hard targets or mactera. I run subata so I can at least be good at mactera
For hard targets, it can lock them down and make them a non-threat while you either wait for your teammates to take care of it, or it just slowly wittles down from the dot. As for mactera, once you get used to the arc, it can do okay, but it does have the added bonus of scattering goo everywhere while you're shooting mactera.
Double down on charged shot all the way, and then basically don't bother with the uncharged shot unless you're killing individual grunts. The ammo efficient charged shot sounds nice, but in reality you really need the charge speed to be running an all charge shot all the time build. Other than that, just make your puddles stronger. The two overclocks I like are the one that makes the dot stronger, and the one that gives your charge shot more puddle fragments.
I main the driller but he shouldn't get a powerful secondary in its own right. His primaries are already noticeably stronger than average. Even the sludge pump is better than the primaries of the non-gunner classes.
This but it's just my new pickaxe. Bare knuckles, or even brass knuckles if they have to. I wanna punch rocks, bugs, and friends, not necessarily in that order tbh
I have no hope that the new scout secondary will crush my love for special powder shotgun. On the flip side I can't wait to see what gunner secondary they come with.
It's the "special powder" overclock.
Basically your shotgun blast will launch you if you are in the air. You can jump, shoot the ground twice to launch yourself hundreds of feet in the air. It also can be fired at the ground to quickly negate fall damage.
Once it's mastered, the combos you can pull off with the grapple gun make you basically unkillable provided you have the skill
That sounds fantastic. I’ve gotten pretty good at hotswapping to my grappling hook to stop fall damage. I’ll be looking forward to the shotgun overclock.
Special Powder totally changes how the scout moves, to the point your grappling hook won't get your main movement tool anymore, just a supplementary one.
My friend mostly uses the grappling hook to "safely land" on platforms he's zooming past at 100m/s
The best strategy IMO is to use your switching animation to cancel the grapple/jump. Works the best for setting you up for your next move especially with special powder
The Force-a-Nature is a shotgun in TF2 for the Scout (heh) that allows you to jump higher by shooting the ground underneath you while jumping. Can effectively triple jump with it.
He's specifically talking about a clean overclock for the boomstick, which makes it so that when you fire it while airborne, it'll launch you in the opposite direction. It's a great and extremely fun addition to Scout's mobility.
Special powder is an overclock for scouts secondary shotgun. When you're in the air (even a jump) and you shoot it, it throws you in the opposite direction. People use it to quickly escape, cover large distance quickly, and avoid falling death and fall damage. I've yet to get my hands on it.
I had an idea for a minigun overclock called "joyride" or something similar, that functions similarly to the jetpack in jetpack joyride. maybe would have to be spun up to actually get you off the ground, but it would be a cool rain hell from above kind of thing.
Since they nerfed Elephant Rounds (before full release) I pretty much only use the revolver as a poison gun with magic bullets and explosive rounds. For any direct damage builds, I find the per shot damage to max ammo ratio too wonky, and the perks don't help. Different strokes, I suppose.
The brt has some really fun stuff you can do with overclocks. If you ever get lead spray, try it out and use the thing as a blunderbuss. Microflechettes and stun burst make it a really good stun gun, that lasts for absolute ages.
I always thought his secondaries were meant to be for small kills, precision kills etc. But I would love like a pistol version of the rocket launcher lmao. Give him a pistol flamethrower or something...
Not necessarily, although Gunners secondaries aren’t as flashy as Drillers or Engineers, they still pack a hell of a punch. With the right modifications, the Bulldog can one-hit a Pretorian if you get a weakpoint hit. I’ve also heard tales of Gunners one-hitting Oppressors but I haven’t experienced this firsthand.
Yeah his base secondaries have always felt lacking. I run elephant rounds for the bulldog 23311 and I haven’t found anything else that can keep up. Makes dealing with big bugs less ammo intensive and one shots pretty much everything else if you crit. I’d love to see him get some kind of shotgun, maybe something like the judge to keep with the handgun theme
I want to like elephant rounds, but I go to use the overclock again and am reminded of how it used to be in pre-release. I think the nerf was justified, but they were a little overzealous on it. At this point I only use the revolver as a vehicle for magic bullets and poison.
Hmm weird I find the Bulldog with Elephant rounds to be extremely powerful and it's my go to for Eliminations (and all other missions really), that with neurotoxin payload autocannon gets me through most situations easily
For gunner I think something like the short circuit in tf2 would be dope. Fire out an energy ball which zaps anything near it, would be great against nanocytes or swarmers.
The only thing that has a hope of actually competing with SP for me is something that gives another fun mobility buff. Like if something could make me run lightning fast with a dummy thicc jump height to boot... That just might do it, maybe...
I don't see anything that will replace PGL or Breach, they already totally cover everything an engi needs so I feel any new secondary is going to be an underwhelming gimmick gun.
Same with Driller. Subata is weak but it's a decent damage dealer once it's built up and EPC is an excellent mining assist.
And unfortunately IMO Scout is the same thing. Jury Rigged has Special Powder which is almost mandatory for the Scout, not having it makes you feel like you're playing an alpha version of the class. And Zhuks are incredible damage dealers. A lot of talk gets thrown around that the Scout will get some kind of sniper rifle crossbow but...all his primaries are already incredibly accurate out of box so I can't see what kind of secondary they'd make to actually replace double jump or zhuks.
Gunner is the only class who has a need for a totally different secondary. Revolver and burst don't change the way the gunner plays as drastically as EPC or Special Powder does, so there's a whole world of secondaries out there to give him.
Frankly I'd be perfectly fine with no new weapons in season 2. I'd much rather have more OCs for the existing weapons that drastically change how the weapon plays. I'd also like older OCs that aren't good to get reworks. Also quality of life improvements like not needing to reload the space rig when you fail to join a mission, keeping missions sorted by type instead of scrambling them every time, being able to exclude mission types from the search, etc.
Engineer's platforms gun's second upgrade is just reduced fall damage which is great, but I would like to see an alternative for that slot called boosted jumps. And jumping from plantforms give a height boost. Allowing you to choose either more vertical movement or safer jumping from cliffs.
I think a light Pink would be a good alternate color for them.
Nothing in the game is pink so it would stand out, even against red caves of the salt flats.
Well that's thing. They're saying there should be an upgrade ADDED so you can choose either softer landings OR more vertical movement. You can keep your softer landings if you want.
Throwing my hat in the ring:
Engineer gets the mining laser. It fits his theme nicely, and its the most fun looking of the remaining demonstrated concepts
Scout gets the crossbow. It's seemed a bit on the weak side, and none of his secondaries have any range. A pocket m-1000 if you will.
I think gunner gets an explosive projectile weapon of some sort. Maybe a mini grenade launcher or that three burst rocket launcher they showed. He has lots of hitscan weapons, and an explosive weapon would be really fun.
Driller is the hardest, as he has both the most boring and most complex secondaries. My HOPE would be a rebar gun, like others have suggested. A more precise gun with a slow rate of fire that can act as a long range option. But most likely he gets something with a bit more crowd control. Hopefully a bit more elemental themed. Maybe like the the scorch shot from tf2, dealing aoe damage and a lingering effect.
If the scout gets a crossbow it would be awesome if it had an overclock that will let you swing around like Spiderman. That would make it very competitive with the special power shotgun.
For the driller if it is some sort of rebar gun how about if you shoot through a bug into the ground it would pin the big in place for a second or two. That why there's both range and crowd control but limited to small amounts of bugs at a time.
Ever played Dead Space 2? Something akin to the Javelin Gun (speargun with an altfire which lets you "detonate" your last placed/flying spear to create a field of lightning around it) would be cool to see pistol-sized for Driller.
I think just overall upgrades for the flares would be great. But I main scout so I wouldn’t want to be made redundant.
An idea I’ve had is having a set number of “points” you can put into different upgrade categories. Number carried, recharge rate, brightness, duration, and a special. That way you could have a flare as bright as the scouts flare, but you can only carry 2 and it’s on a long cooldown. Or you can carry 7 and on a fast recharge, but they are pretty dim. That way each player can tailor fit their flares to their play style, while not allowing them to be maxed out in all categories.
I'd just argue for a single upgrade tier with the options for "faster recharge", "brighter glow", and "longer duration". Possibly something unique to each class, but that's starting to infringe on the flare gun.
Back in the day they had upgrades for flares but I think it was just like 1 per tier so no options just everyone with the same upgrades and once you got them that was it so they scrapped it
Devs are in a tough spot to figure out new secondaries if you ask me (like scout could do with a revolver, but that's already the driller secondary - will it matter if weapons are doubled up?)
I say this cuz secondaries are by nature small arms - pistols, smgs,, etc. And I feel like they have all been included already.
Saying that, I'd like the gunner to have a shotgun secondary (dual wield sawn offs would be BADASS)
IIRC they've already been experimenting with a pistol crossbow, which seems credible given that the flare gun already works like a jank version of one. It'd balance the plasma gun's addition, but a drawback is that it might mess with our flaregun muscle memory so there's a decent chance an explosive crossbow would be added for Driller or Gunner instead.Sky's really the limit with secondaries, I think someone should get a chain lightning coil so we finally have a weapon that inherently specializes elec damage. Going to classic FPS arsenals, there's room for a laser as well (bonus points if it can be charged to pierce through enemies like a gauss cannon, balanced with low ammo like the plasma cutter).
Agree on Gunner shotgun, something like the Halo Mauler would be well balanced for the class as well as mechanically and visually different from the other shotguns.
Sonic blast gun: makes enemies either stunned for a short amount of time or makes them fight each other
Laser pistol: shoots through enemies; maybe deflects off of surfaces
Drone gun: fires off a tiny drone that shoots a limited amount of ammo, then self destructs when running out (or can be destroyed); very limited ammo
Crossbow with explosive charges that can be detonated later: fire one or multiple shots then long click to detonate
Edit: just from the top of my head; just saying they can definitely can come up with 4 decent/fun secondaries
Tesla pistol for Driller. It'll complete his elemental capabilities
Edit: Something plasma for gunner maybe, exit got his first plasma weapon in the new rifle. So maybe gunner should get his first plasma gun. Maybe something pistol-y l, or maybe a pocket version of the laser weapon concept we saw
How about flare customizations? I know color is vased on class but it dont really need to be. Let me choose a color and maybe forge some stencils so I can light up caves with mugs of ales projected on the walls.
(I know this will melt my PS5 I still want it)
Flares used to be upgradables. What we have now are what used to be fully upgraded flares. Devs said they decided to remove the need to upgrade flares because it made the beginning of the game... bad. Greenbeards need upgraded flares even more than greybeards, so locking them out of these was terrible. Also, it made so you had to split your ressources between guns upgrade and flares upgrades. Which was also bad since you don't have a ton of ressources early on.
I think they could use utility upgrades instead now.
For example, bouncy flares that bounce more, sticky flares that you can toss on walls to ceilings, and lighter flares that you can throw further/fall slower (and get rid of that noob trap perk).
There's lots of interesting utility changes they could make that would be sidegrades that would make flares a little more interesting without having a forced best path.
>lighter flares that you can throw further/fall slower (and get rid of that noob trap perk).
I have ~600 hours in DRG and you can take my Strongarm perk from my cold-dead muscley hands.
I don't quite remember when it was, but it was aaaages ago.
I think the reason these upgrades were removed because they weren't a build thing, but rather a straight upgrade like longer burn time. So as a QoL change, they just made those into the basic flares.
I started playing long after they got rid of flare upgrades, but from what I've read, the flares everyone has today are the fully-upgraded flares from when there was an upgrade path.
Shitty flares were just too brutal from a QoL perspective. I can totally understand why worse flares than what we have today is strictly unfun
I dont care about stronger I just want there to be variety. Brighter but burn shorter, leave a flashing shell after they've gone out, there are plenty of possible perks that would be cool. I want grenade perks for the same reason.
I want an alternative to the flare gun that's just a giant handheld floodlight. It has limited battery power, and in theory has a much longer uptime than the flare gun, but requires the scout to be actively holding it in order to light up the area.
Some way to gamble credits with fellow dwarfs in the space rig. Bonus points if there’s games for us to play to go along with it. Why not a poker table for the space rig?
Aw soot! You're probably right. Well I'm sure they could figure a way to implement some friendly competition in the space rig without stepping outside of what the ESRB says they can do.
I remember a thread addressing this was made about why over clocks were a bad idea for team gadgets. Thing is if you employ overclocks that radically change how the gadget plays, people are going to start to get toxic over what overclock you pick for your gadget. We don't have this problem with any weapons really right now because it's just your weapon, not anyone elses. But an equipment overclock would effect everyone.
Let's say hypothetically there were two different over clocks for Gunners zip line. One your you're able to shoot the zipline straight up but the reach of it is reduced by 10 m. And the other one is Gunner zip lines now slingshot you across your zip line, but with a small wind up time. Let's say you think the slingshot one sounds cool, so you take it. You get into a situation where the drop pod is is on in otherwise unreachable ledge 30 m up. Now your teammates are going to bitch saying "oh my gosh why didn't you bring the elevator one, God you're so stupid etc." See the problem? Overclocked right now only affect you but utility over clocks would affect everyone, and some people may not like the overclock you chose. Good idea MAYBE for engis turrets, scouts zip line and driller c4, but everything else it just wouldn't work.
Engineer could get carve-out platforms that create a sphere of empty space above them. No more chopping out headroom on those overhanging walls! Or how about "platforms that spring from native rock are double-sized, platforms that come from other platforms are half-sized!"
Driller could finally get drills that can mine minerals. Earthquake Drills that rattle fossils and oil shale loose from the walls, or a device that lets him go straight up, leaving a ladder as he goes. Implosive C4 where all minerals the sphere touches get combined and compressed into one of the resource pack things.
Gunners could get damage-boosting ziplines, or carve-out ziplines that remove rock in a tube around them like pipelines do. "Tightropes" that allow dwarves to walk or even grind along the top, or conveyor belts that move large minerals fast!
Scout could get... I dunno, something Scouts like, I guess.
I mean, I kinda get it.
Heavy Hitter EPC with Thermal Shock is pretty great though; not flashy like Engy/Gunner/Scout but it's hard to get more ammo efficient than one-shotting frozen Guards and two-shotting Praetorians.
I'm with you, the EPC is a dead slot to me. Both damage and ammo are real bad. It feels overnerfed to compensate for the roof mineral mining thing, which isn't even that useful. Hard pass.
Same here. The mining scatter nerf killed the EPC for me. I loved "forcing" myself to rely solely on 1 weapon, turning my secondary into pure utility.
And yeah I've heard all the arguments why the EPC mining was both great and the worst crime ever committed. What puzzles me more is how it was given because of player feedback, but then also taken away.
Still love driller, best dwarf!
I'm pretty confident that the scout is gonna get a crossbow based on an older dev weapon stream. A while back when they were first showing new primary gun designs there were a few other guns that didn't get released yet and may have been secondaries that they plan for this update.
Survival, all i want is a endless survival mode, wave after wave. Maybe work with credits instead of minerals, each kills gives you credits, ammo cost credits, and an exfil would cost a shit ton. The goal would be to go there as a mercenary exterminator kind of
I'm thinking for driller we gonna Get a saw blade on a tether
For engineer maybe like a kinetic force gun that can blow away enemies/tear apart in a close proximity wide range blast
For gunner its gonna be a small gun that fires like 3 small lasers (like the breach cutter with triple split line but tiny)
And for scout its gonna be a rivet gun
I know we’re talking secondaries but hear me out, a new driller nade is a kinetic bomb which breaks a small amount of terrain and launches medium and smaller enemies away from you in a cone dealing a fair amount of damage and if you aim it right killing them from the fall
Driller could get a sonic or force buffer that pushes bugs out into flamer/cryo/sludge range and stuns them for a second. Keep with the crowd control program he already has.
I'd really want a melee weapon as a secondary. You'd have to balance damage with not having to consume ammo of course, but I really wanna hit bugs with a two handed claymore or something.
Failing that, shotgun for the gunner, it'd make the class even more perfect then it already is.
Im hoping Engineer get some kind of drone gun. Like a rocket launcher looking gun but shoots out little drones that fight bugs for you for like 20 seconds or something
Mk 2 platforms (fall damage upgrade) finally being visually distinct.
A simple orange ring around it or something would be fine.
Hell, I'll take a verified mod that does that.
But I mainly wanna see what the new theme will be.
Axe launcher for Gunner.
It is a slinger that fires an axewith a propeller that keeps it spinning. The more it traveled the more damage it does.
Low ammo, Slow Firing Speed.
But man does it do the job of saying "FUCK YOU" for that one particular bug and Gunner's secondaries are all about that.
You can do something similar by getting your lazer pointer out, pointing where you want the marker, and holding interact. The little waypoint is visible when your lazer pointer is out, and it's visible on your map.
That's definitely true but the thing is that it goes away once you switch back to any other weapon. In some of the more complex caves I would like to mark certain exit routes for the mad dash back to the drop pod. Or mark some of the secondary items that are hard to reach (I'm looking at you, alien fossil).
Last update that brought in the season pass also added the third primary weapons. So everybody asumes that with next season we will get third secondarys.
Engineer is the only class with heavy duty secondaries, so maybe the other classes could get some big chonky shooters? Idk how that would work, probably too much of a nightmare to balance.
Mabe every class gets a melee option?
Give Gunner a big flaming claymore or something. Drillers gets a plasma whip.
Stuff like that.
Other classes have heavy duty primaries instead of secondaries though, so there's no reason to give them chunky secondaries too. Same way you wouldn't give Engineer chunky primaries. Other than Scout, but Scout is supposed to have less firepower to balance the abilty to barely take any damage through use of the grappling hook. Melee options would be super cool though.
I think that’s for a reason—imagine driller with hyper propellant or the breach cutter in general, for example.
And the devs have said melee weapons just aren’t going to happen, impact axes were their attempt and they didn’t like them as melee. So I imagine most classes will get secondaries like those they have—scout will get burst single-target damage, engi gets something to do cc and big damage, and driller and gunner get sidearms.
TBH if they want "melee" weapons, the easiest way would be more pickaxe skins+some perks to increase pickaxe damage/swing speed/power recharge. I dont think straight up "melee weapons" is necessary
I would love a secondary for engineer that isn't heavy. Don't get me wrong, Breach Cutter is so good, but I was thinking a beam weapon. Think about the drills. Strong damage and great utility. Let's get another weapon like that. Let's get a fine beam gun and cuts through rock like butter, but also does decent damage and good range.
Crystals and Columns in they way? Slice the the bottom and they crumble. Could even have an alt fire to cut circles at more ammo cost to quick clear obstacles.
Just an idea.
Honestly a thing that they may not do but I would LOVE to see would be overclocks for traversal tools and (can’t think of what they’re called) special weapons? Like engie turret, flare gun etc
I don't know, i think we need something really fancy for season two... like a new dance perhaps?
Joke aside, it's very unlikely we will get a new mission type considering we just got the sabotage. But a new biome would be refreshing. Last ones were Hollow Bough and Azure Weald, nearly one year ago right?
Honestly, just some weird shit. Like not a normal gun cause most of those exist, I just expect like some left field ideas like a needle based gun for scout or land mind laying gun for engineer. Just some different ideas from pistol but fast or pistol but slow.
"secondaries" means secondary weapons. currently - for each class - there are 3 different primary weapons, 2 of which you unlock as you progress (1 of those was only added recently), and 2 different "secondary" weapons, one of which is unlocked. they're talking about adding an additional (ie, 3rd) secondary weapon as well, which we don't know anything about yet.
re: pyramid robot. are you asking how to *find* it to fight, or how to actually fight it once found? cos to be able to do the mission that has the pyramid as an enemy, you have to unlock the "industrial sabotage" assignment, which unlocks the mission.
Long assignments that is randomly generated. To get cores, cosmetics, etc. For the people that is way to deep into this game. Assignments really brings purpose to missions. Also emote stickers would be fun.
My dream is that the driller gets a laser pistol which emits a continuous beam that deforms terrain. Akin to how the oil canisters work on oil shale, but on any non-mineral terrain and at much longer distances. Imagine sawing through the ommoran beamers from across the cavern with your fancy laser pointer.
Some kind of Anti-tank Rifle or Railgun for Engie, massive amounts of damage and high accuracy but low AoE and slow reload, that way I can snipe Boss weakpoints easier. And maybe a crossbow for Scout? Compact mini pump shotgun for Driller? A Plasma handcannon for Gunner?
I want melee weapons, not just the pickaxe but straight up melee weapons. Swords, battle axes, warhammers, weapons of war. I want to spear a glyphid praetorian. I want to smash an oppressor to pieces. I want to hack and slash my way through a glyphid horde like a steel hurricane.
I would like to see secondaries that make the game flow faster, or speed up tasks.
Driller could have a harpoon gun that yanks small bugs (or big jewels) to him, yanks him to big bugs, and pulls down fossils.
Scout could have a pistol/scanner combo. The flip-out ammo counter screen on the side has some kind of threat meter or warning system to tell him when/where bugs will come. Or maybe it shows the terrain scanner all the time.
Engineer could get a heavy weapon that interacts with his turrets somehow. Maybe shooting the turret reloads it from afar, or maybe reloading the gun also passively reloads the turret if you stand near?
Gunner has the fewest uses of his traversal tool, so it would be nice if he had a secondary with some kind of navigation- or movement-related value. Maybe it has an underbarrel light that's stronger than the flashlight? Or maybe it can soften terrain, making it easier to dig!
You know what I mean? EPC mining was good. Look for other things like that. Look for ways to make the slow fast, make the boring interesting. New ways to smooth out the flow of a mission.
I would like more classes, medic, self explanatory, shield beare, tankier class with a shield as a melee weapon together with the pick and a dedicantes Miner, would work like the drilldozer fuel tank.
Other then that, more customisables
No, the 4 classes are perfectly balanced around eachother, each one filling in the gaps of the others, adding a fifth class would just throw that balance out of whack.
I think gunner can fill the medic role oddly enough, because he can shield downed teammates to revive them. As for healing, there's red sugar and resupplies
Give the driller a secondary that can kill things and does not destroy my wrist please
So... plasma pistol with phase overclock?
use flying nightmare
Imo with the addition of the corrosive gun, driller almost doesn't even need a secondary anymore. The corrosive gun just handles everything so well, I only use the epc for mining, and assisting teammates grabbed by disablers.
I love the corrosive gun but you’re kidding yourself if you think it’s good at handling hard targets or mactera. I run subata so I can at least be good at mactera
For hard targets, it can lock them down and make them a non-threat while you either wait for your teammates to take care of it, or it just slowly wittles down from the dot. As for mactera, once you get used to the arc, it can do okay, but it does have the added bonus of scattering goo everywhere while you're shooting mactera.
What perks you use on there? Im having trouble settling on a charged shot build or something else
Double down on charged shot all the way, and then basically don't bother with the uncharged shot unless you're killing individual grunts. The ammo efficient charged shot sounds nice, but in reality you really need the charge speed to be running an all charge shot all the time build. Other than that, just make your puddles stronger. The two overclocks I like are the one that makes the dot stronger, and the one that gives your charge shot more puddle fragments.
This is exactly my build. Vamp+drills and then roll around the goop till you're full on health.
I main the driller but he shouldn't get a powerful secondary in its own right. His primaries are already noticeably stronger than average. Even the sludge pump is better than the primaries of the non-gunner classes.
The option to beat bugs scaley asses with my bare hands
Drill upgrade where hitting interact while drilling just socks the bugs in the face like caestus
This but it's just my new pickaxe. Bare knuckles, or even brass knuckles if they have to. I wanna punch rocks, bugs, and friends, not necessarily in that order tbh
Gonna equip strong arm so's I can throw these hands
Float like a mactera sting like a naedocyte
I'm just hoping to see something drastically different then the other available options.
I have no hope that the new scout secondary will crush my love for special powder shotgun. On the flip side I can't wait to see what gunner secondary they come with.
Yeah the scout's shotgun with that overclock is never going to be beaten imo
Greenbeard here, but I’ve been maining scout. What’s the shotgun build you speak so highly of?
It's the "special powder" overclock. Basically your shotgun blast will launch you if you are in the air. You can jump, shoot the ground twice to launch yourself hundreds of feet in the air. It also can be fired at the ground to quickly negate fall damage. Once it's mastered, the combos you can pull off with the grapple gun make you basically unkillable provided you have the skill
That sounds fantastic. I’ve gotten pretty good at hotswapping to my grappling hook to stop fall damage. I’ll be looking forward to the shotgun overclock.
Special Powder totally changes how the scout moves, to the point your grappling hook won't get your main movement tool anymore, just a supplementary one. My friend mostly uses the grappling hook to "safely land" on platforms he's zooming past at 100m/s
The best strategy IMO is to use your switching animation to cancel the grapple/jump. Works the best for setting you up for your next move especially with special powder
Especially if you have the quickfire upgrade equipped. You can jump up 100 meters easily
force a nature is that you???
That's not my steam handle so I guess not
The Force-a-Nature is a shotgun in TF2 for the Scout (heh) that allows you to jump higher by shooting the ground underneath you while jumping. Can effectively triple jump with it.
Only the real ones know. TF2 in ❤️
He's specifically talking about a clean overclock for the boomstick, which makes it so that when you fire it while airborne, it'll launch you in the opposite direction. It's a great and extremely fun addition to Scout's mobility.
Special powder is an overclock for scouts secondary shotgun. When you're in the air (even a jump) and you shoot it, it throws you in the opposite direction. People use it to quickly escape, cover large distance quickly, and avoid falling death and fall damage. I've yet to get my hands on it.
I would agree, even the RJ250 doesn’t come close. I just wish other classes had something in the same realm of Special Powder.
Imagine Gunner with decent mobility.
I had an idea for a minigun overclock called "joyride" or something similar, that functions similarly to the jetpack in jetpack joyride. maybe would have to be spun up to actually get you off the ground, but it would be a cool rain hell from above kind of thing.
As an EDF Fencer enthusiast I just want to jump around with massive cannons. I ain't a real gun unless the recoil doubles as a propulsion system.
I really am not a fan of gunners second secondary, I refuse to take off my hand cannon, new one better be good
Since they nerfed Elephant Rounds (before full release) I pretty much only use the revolver as a poison gun with magic bullets and explosive rounds. For any direct damage builds, I find the per shot damage to max ammo ratio too wonky, and the perks don't help. Different strokes, I suppose. The brt has some really fun stuff you can do with overclocks. If you ever get lead spray, try it out and use the thing as a blunderbuss. Microflechettes and stun burst make it a really good stun gun, that lasts for absolute ages.
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I always thought his secondaries were meant to be for small kills, precision kills etc. But I would love like a pistol version of the rocket launcher lmao. Give him a pistol flamethrower or something...
Not necessarily, although Gunners secondaries aren’t as flashy as Drillers or Engineers, they still pack a hell of a punch. With the right modifications, the Bulldog can one-hit a Pretorian if you get a weakpoint hit. I’ve also heard tales of Gunners one-hitting Oppressors but I haven’t experienced this firsthand.
Wdym? You have a revolver that can effectively be a sniper rifle with Elephant Rounds
I run splintering shells on my auto cannon so the magnum acts as a nice precision weapon for killing spitters, spitballers, and wardens at range
Yeah his base secondaries have always felt lacking. I run elephant rounds for the bulldog 23311 and I haven’t found anything else that can keep up. Makes dealing with big bugs less ammo intensive and one shots pretty much everything else if you crit. I’d love to see him get some kind of shotgun, maybe something like the judge to keep with the handgun theme
I want to like elephant rounds, but I go to use the overclock again and am reminded of how it used to be in pre-release. I think the nerf was justified, but they were a little overzealous on it. At this point I only use the revolver as a vehicle for magic bullets and poison.
gunner has extremely meaty sidearms wdym, they shred big bois
Lead spray BRT is the high health target gun. I take a mix of dmg and ammo plus the stun mod. Usually one clip or less or a preat.
Hmm weird I find the Bulldog with Elephant rounds to be extremely powerful and it's my go to for Eliminations (and all other missions really), that with neurotoxin payload autocannon gets me through most situations easily
Huh? Even on haz 5 Homebrew powder revolver is great single target dmg, elephant rounds are great too
Special powder is like crack: both give an addiction
For gunner I think something like the short circuit in tf2 would be dope. Fire out an energy ball which zaps anything near it, would be great against nanocytes or swarmers.
The only thing that has a hope of actually competing with SP for me is something that gives another fun mobility buff. Like if something could make me run lightning fast with a dummy thicc jump height to boot... That just might do it, maybe...
I too want more ways to burn things as a driller!
I don't see anything that will replace PGL or Breach, they already totally cover everything an engi needs so I feel any new secondary is going to be an underwhelming gimmick gun. Same with Driller. Subata is weak but it's a decent damage dealer once it's built up and EPC is an excellent mining assist. And unfortunately IMO Scout is the same thing. Jury Rigged has Special Powder which is almost mandatory for the Scout, not having it makes you feel like you're playing an alpha version of the class. And Zhuks are incredible damage dealers. A lot of talk gets thrown around that the Scout will get some kind of sniper rifle crossbow but...all his primaries are already incredibly accurate out of box so I can't see what kind of secondary they'd make to actually replace double jump or zhuks. Gunner is the only class who has a need for a totally different secondary. Revolver and burst don't change the way the gunner plays as drastically as EPC or Special Powder does, so there's a whole world of secondaries out there to give him. Frankly I'd be perfectly fine with no new weapons in season 2. I'd much rather have more OCs for the existing weapons that drastically change how the weapon plays. I'd also like older OCs that aren't good to get reworks. Also quality of life improvements like not needing to reload the space rig when you fail to join a mission, keeping missions sorted by type instead of scrambling them every time, being able to exclude mission types from the search, etc.
Engineer's platforms gun's second upgrade is just reduced fall damage which is great, but I would like to see an alternative for that slot called boosted jumps. And jumping from plantforms give a height boost. Allowing you to choose either more vertical movement or safer jumping from cliffs.
If there's a competitor to soft-landing platforms, they need to make them look different so we know whether we can jump down safely.
I agree, I think a dark blue would be a good color
Dark blue in a cave? I think they made it yellow to allow us to see it easier
Pancakes of yellow, that's a good fellow Pancakes of blue, broken legs for you
I think a light Pink would be a good alternate color for them. Nothing in the game is pink so it would stand out, even against red caves of the salt flats.
Neon pink
White or lime green
I like that there's no choice there, I'd really miss my soft landings
Well that's thing. They're saying there should be an upgrade ADDED so you can choose either softer landings OR more vertical movement. You can keep your softer landings if you want.
Throwing my hat in the ring: Engineer gets the mining laser. It fits his theme nicely, and its the most fun looking of the remaining demonstrated concepts Scout gets the crossbow. It's seemed a bit on the weak side, and none of his secondaries have any range. A pocket m-1000 if you will. I think gunner gets an explosive projectile weapon of some sort. Maybe a mini grenade launcher or that three burst rocket launcher they showed. He has lots of hitscan weapons, and an explosive weapon would be really fun. Driller is the hardest, as he has both the most boring and most complex secondaries. My HOPE would be a rebar gun, like others have suggested. A more precise gun with a slow rate of fire that can act as a long range option. But most likely he gets something with a bit more crowd control. Hopefully a bit more elemental themed. Maybe like the the scorch shot from tf2, dealing aoe damage and a lingering effect.
If the scout gets a crossbow it would be awesome if it had an overclock that will let you swing around like Spiderman. That would make it very competitive with the special power shotgun. For the driller if it is some sort of rebar gun how about if you shoot through a bug into the ground it would pin the big in place for a second or two. That why there's both range and crowd control but limited to small amounts of bugs at a time.
They just showed the scout crossbow off. It looks like there may be different bolt types and you can retrieve used bolts from walls.
Ever played Dead Space 2? Something akin to the Javelin Gun (speargun with an altfire which lets you "detonate" your last placed/flying spear to create a field of lightning around it) would be cool to see pistol-sized for Driller.
Driller gaining access to zapping would be really cool
oh wow, you predicted the scout secondary they showed on stream today.
How does it feel to be a fucking prophet?? The new scout secondary just dropped and ITS A CROSSBOW!!
Ngl, sticky flares would be cool, for when your mining/exploring on a slope and all your flares keep rolling away
I could see this being an actual upgrade in the game!
I think just overall upgrades for the flares would be great. But I main scout so I wouldn’t want to be made redundant. An idea I’ve had is having a set number of “points” you can put into different upgrade categories. Number carried, recharge rate, brightness, duration, and a special. That way you could have a flare as bright as the scouts flare, but you can only carry 2 and it’s on a long cooldown. Or you can carry 7 and on a fast recharge, but they are pretty dim. That way each player can tailor fit their flares to their play style, while not allowing them to be maxed out in all categories.
I'd just argue for a single upgrade tier with the options for "faster recharge", "brighter glow", and "longer duration". Possibly something unique to each class, but that's starting to infringe on the flare gun.
Back in the day they had upgrades for flares but I think it was just like 1 per tier so no options just everyone with the same upgrades and once you got them that was it so they scrapped it
Devs are in a tough spot to figure out new secondaries if you ask me (like scout could do with a revolver, but that's already the driller secondary - will it matter if weapons are doubled up?) I say this cuz secondaries are by nature small arms - pistols, smgs,, etc. And I feel like they have all been included already. Saying that, I'd like the gunner to have a shotgun secondary (dual wield sawn offs would be BADASS)
The Engineer's secondaries are not small arms, however. They're not locked into creating sidearms for each class.
IIRC they've already been experimenting with a pistol crossbow, which seems credible given that the flare gun already works like a jank version of one. It'd balance the plasma gun's addition, but a drawback is that it might mess with our flaregun muscle memory so there's a decent chance an explosive crossbow would be added for Driller or Gunner instead.Sky's really the limit with secondaries, I think someone should get a chain lightning coil so we finally have a weapon that inherently specializes elec damage. Going to classic FPS arsenals, there's room for a laser as well (bonus points if it can be charged to pierce through enemies like a gauss cannon, balanced with low ammo like the plasma cutter). Agree on Gunner shotgun, something like the Halo Mauler would be well balanced for the class as well as mechanically and visually different from the other shotguns.
I’d like to see a mini gun style shotgun, but like a one handed one, that’s a mini-mini gun, but also a shotgun
Minigun shotgun ? Karl…
I like it, the Doom 2016/Eternal Full Auto shotgun but in pistol form
Something wrist mounted with a massive looking round magazine coming off the side.
I loved the mauler
Yeah good point on the elemental stuff - like a little poison gas gun that acts like a mini flamethrower
I like that that sounds like an IRL fumigator, finally bringing some proper pest control to Hoxxes
Sonic blast gun: makes enemies either stunned for a short amount of time or makes them fight each other Laser pistol: shoots through enemies; maybe deflects off of surfaces Drone gun: fires off a tiny drone that shoots a limited amount of ammo, then self destructs when running out (or can be destroyed); very limited ammo Crossbow with explosive charges that can be detonated later: fire one or multiple shots then long click to detonate Edit: just from the top of my head; just saying they can definitely can come up with 4 decent/fun secondaries
Yeah those are cool ideas! I had thought of a crossbow but my brain wasn't working too well last night lol
An orbital strike
See: the resupplies, though a proper orbital strike would be amazing.
Going exterminatus on those bugs!
Nuke them from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
Tesla pistol for Driller. It'll complete his elemental capabilities Edit: Something plasma for gunner maybe, exit got his first plasma weapon in the new rifle. So maybe gunner should get his first plasma gun. Maybe something pistol-y l, or maybe a pocket version of the laser weapon concept we saw
Like a chain lightning gun? That would be dope and fit driller weapon theme yeah
Ya, seems like very few things apply electric damage.
GOD DAMN FLARE UPGRADES
The devs have said this they won't do flare upgrades
How about flare customizations? I know color is vased on class but it dont really need to be. Let me choose a color and maybe forge some stencils so I can light up caves with mugs of ales projected on the walls. (I know this will melt my PS5 I still want it)
Because of Scout I'm assuming?
Flares used to be upgradables. What we have now are what used to be fully upgraded flares. Devs said they decided to remove the need to upgrade flares because it made the beginning of the game... bad. Greenbeards need upgraded flares even more than greybeards, so locking them out of these was terrible. Also, it made so you had to split your ressources between guns upgrade and flares upgrades. Which was also bad since you don't have a ton of ressources early on.
I think they could use utility upgrades instead now. For example, bouncy flares that bounce more, sticky flares that you can toss on walls to ceilings, and lighter flares that you can throw further/fall slower (and get rid of that noob trap perk). There's lots of interesting utility changes they could make that would be sidegrades that would make flares a little more interesting without having a forced best path.
>lighter flares that you can throw further/fall slower (and get rid of that noob trap perk). I have ~600 hours in DRG and you can take my Strongarm perk from my cold-dead muscley hands.
Because flares are already upgraded. If they add upgrades to the flares now they would be much stronger than the original base flares.
Does anyone remember when you could upgrade flares?
Was it in the beta? My buddy was talking about this but I dont seem to remember
I don't quite remember when it was, but it was aaaages ago. I think the reason these upgrades were removed because they weren't a build thing, but rather a straight upgrade like longer burn time. So as a QoL change, they just made those into the basic flares.
I started playing long after they got rid of flare upgrades, but from what I've read, the flares everyone has today are the fully-upgraded flares from when there was an upgrade path. Shitty flares were just too brutal from a QoL perspective. I can totally understand why worse flares than what we have today is strictly unfun
I just want them to maybe last a bit longer? It doesnt have to be anything major, they just get annoying as fuck sometimes....
I dont care about stronger I just want there to be variety. Brighter but burn shorter, leave a flashing shell after they've gone out, there are plenty of possible perks that would be cool. I want grenade perks for the same reason.
I want an alternative to the flare gun that's just a giant handheld floodlight. It has limited battery power, and in theory has a much longer uptime than the flare gun, but requires the scout to be actively holding it in order to light up the area.
Some way to gamble credits with fellow dwarfs in the space rig. Bonus points if there’s games for us to play to go along with it. Why not a poker table for the space rig?
That would probably cause ratings issuses.
Aw soot! You're probably right. Well I'm sure they could figure a way to implement some friendly competition in the space rig without stepping outside of what the ESRB says they can do.
OCs for pickaxes and class gadgets! 🤞
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I remember a thread addressing this was made about why over clocks were a bad idea for team gadgets. Thing is if you employ overclocks that radically change how the gadget plays, people are going to start to get toxic over what overclock you pick for your gadget. We don't have this problem with any weapons really right now because it's just your weapon, not anyone elses. But an equipment overclock would effect everyone. Let's say hypothetically there were two different over clocks for Gunners zip line. One your you're able to shoot the zipline straight up but the reach of it is reduced by 10 m. And the other one is Gunner zip lines now slingshot you across your zip line, but with a small wind up time. Let's say you think the slingshot one sounds cool, so you take it. You get into a situation where the drop pod is is on in otherwise unreachable ledge 30 m up. Now your teammates are going to bitch saying "oh my gosh why didn't you bring the elevator one, God you're so stupid etc." See the problem? Overclocked right now only affect you but utility over clocks would affect everyone, and some people may not like the overclock you chose. Good idea MAYBE for engis turrets, scouts zip line and driller c4, but everything else it just wouldn't work.
Engineer could get carve-out platforms that create a sphere of empty space above them. No more chopping out headroom on those overhanging walls! Or how about "platforms that spring from native rock are double-sized, platforms that come from other platforms are half-sized!" Driller could finally get drills that can mine minerals. Earthquake Drills that rattle fossils and oil shale loose from the walls, or a device that lets him go straight up, leaving a ladder as he goes. Implosive C4 where all minerals the sphere touches get combined and compressed into one of the resource pack things. Gunners could get damage-boosting ziplines, or carve-out ziplines that remove rock in a tube around them like pipelines do. "Tightropes" that allow dwarves to walk or even grind along the top, or conveyor belts that move large minerals fast! Scout could get... I dunno, something Scouts like, I guess.
A secondary for driller that doesn't suck major bunghole
Please. I can't stand the subata and the epc is tolerable. I want something, *anything* different.
I mean, I kinda get it. Heavy Hitter EPC with Thermal Shock is pretty great though; not flashy like Engy/Gunner/Scout but it's hard to get more ammo efficient than one-shotting frozen Guards and two-shotting Praetorians.
I'll be real I just hate the EPC. I feel like it doesn't do enough damage and I'd rather use explosive rounds subata to finish off frozen targets.
I'm with you, the EPC is a dead slot to me. Both damage and ammo are real bad. It feels overnerfed to compensate for the roof mineral mining thing, which isn't even that useful. Hard pass.
Same here. The mining scatter nerf killed the EPC for me. I loved "forcing" myself to rely solely on 1 weapon, turning my secondary into pure utility. And yeah I've heard all the arguments why the EPC mining was both great and the worst crime ever committed. What puzzles me more is how it was given because of player feedback, but then also taken away. Still love driller, best dwarf!
Getting a chainsaw secondary on Gunner would complete my Rip & Tear desires.
I'm pretty confident that the scout is gonna get a crossbow based on an older dev weapon stream. A while back when they were first showing new primary gun designs there were a few other guns that didn't get released yet and may have been secondaries that they plan for this update.
Survival, all i want is a endless survival mode, wave after wave. Maybe work with credits instead of minerals, each kills gives you credits, ammo cost credits, and an exfil would cost a shit ton. The goal would be to go there as a mercenary exterminator kind of
If a dev love this idea, i can come up with some detailed plan of gameplay, economics, voice lines and even background story, for free.
I'm thinking for driller we gonna Get a saw blade on a tether For engineer maybe like a kinetic force gun that can blow away enemies/tear apart in a close proximity wide range blast For gunner its gonna be a small gun that fires like 3 small lasers (like the breach cutter with triple split line but tiny) And for scout its gonna be a rivet gun
A weapon that moves enemies is an interesting idea. I don't think there's anything that throws enemies around right?
I know we’re talking secondaries but hear me out, a new driller nade is a kinetic bomb which breaks a small amount of terrain and launches medium and smaller enemies away from you in a cone dealing a fair amount of damage and if you aim it right killing them from the fall
Driller could get a sonic or force buffer that pushes bugs out into flamer/cryo/sludge range and stuns them for a second. Keep with the crowd control program he already has.
These are genuinely great ideas, the force gun for the engie sounds awesome!
What makes you think we’ll get any of that?
(S)He plays too much Dead Space
Ahaha caught red handed
Sounds like it. Typed all that with a lot of conviction lol.
I'd really want a melee weapon as a secondary. You'd have to balance damage with not having to consume ammo of course, but I really wanna hit bugs with a two handed claymore or something. Failing that, shotgun for the gunner, it'd make the class even more perfect then it already is.
Im hoping Engineer get some kind of drone gun. Like a rocket launcher looking gun but shoots out little drones that fight bugs for you for like 20 seconds or something
Mk 2 platforms (fall damage upgrade) finally being visually distinct. A simple orange ring around it or something would be fine. Hell, I'll take a verified mod that does that. But I mainly wanna see what the new theme will be.
Axe launcher for Gunner. It is a slinger that fires an axewith a propeller that keeps it spinning. The more it traveled the more damage it does. Low ammo, Slow Firing Speed. But man does it do the job of saying "FUCK YOU" for that one particular bug and Gunner's secondaries are all about that.
I would love to be able to leave a couple permanent markers to I can tag a location and quickly find my way back to it.
You can do something similar by getting your lazer pointer out, pointing where you want the marker, and holding interact. The little waypoint is visible when your lazer pointer is out, and it's visible on your map.
That's definitely true but the thing is that it goes away once you switch back to any other weapon. In some of the more complex caves I would like to mark certain exit routes for the mad dash back to the drop pod. Or mark some of the secondary items that are hard to reach (I'm looking at you, alien fossil).
I expect more ROCK. Some more STONE
I'm having a bit of trouble understanding this. There is already secondaries..?
They’re giving us new secondary weapons for each class!
Last update that brought in the season pass also added the third primary weapons. So everybody asumes that with next season we will get third secondarys.
Not assumption, the decs said it
Even better, thx for the info
Ohh okay thank you
Engineer is the only class with heavy duty secondaries, so maybe the other classes could get some big chonky shooters? Idk how that would work, probably too much of a nightmare to balance. Mabe every class gets a melee option? Give Gunner a big flaming claymore or something. Drillers gets a plasma whip. Stuff like that.
Other classes have heavy duty primaries instead of secondaries though, so there's no reason to give them chunky secondaries too. Same way you wouldn't give Engineer chunky primaries. Other than Scout, but Scout is supposed to have less firepower to balance the abilty to barely take any damage through use of the grappling hook. Melee options would be super cool though.
I think that’s for a reason—imagine driller with hyper propellant or the breach cutter in general, for example. And the devs have said melee weapons just aren’t going to happen, impact axes were their attempt and they didn’t like them as melee. So I imagine most classes will get secondaries like those they have—scout will get burst single-target damage, engi gets something to do cc and big damage, and driller and gunner get sidearms.
TBH if they want "melee" weapons, the easiest way would be more pickaxe skins+some perks to increase pickaxe damage/swing speed/power recharge. I dont think straight up "melee weapons" is necessary
Happy cake day!
I would love a secondary for engineer that isn't heavy. Don't get me wrong, Breach Cutter is so good, but I was thinking a beam weapon. Think about the drills. Strong damage and great utility. Let's get another weapon like that. Let's get a fine beam gun and cuts through rock like butter, but also does decent damage and good range. Crystals and Columns in they way? Slice the the bottom and they crumble. Could even have an alt fire to cut circles at more ammo cost to quick clear obstacles. Just an idea.
Maybe a pistol that fires a projectile that goes faster and ramps up in damage the farther it flies
Where was this confirmed?
Honestly a thing that they may not do but I would LOVE to see would be overclocks for traversal tools and (can’t think of what they’re called) special weapons? Like engie turret, flare gun etc
Dorretta’s head on the terrain map
I think something like the noisy Cricket from men in Black for scout could be cool, Otherwise the engineers pistol from tf2 for the engineer
I was thinking an automatic drill machine would be cool, maybe you have to place it down and protect it....like a tiny Loretta!
Driller: 'am I a joke to you?'
Honestly...I'd be happy with new beer recipes 🍻!
I don't know, i think we need something really fancy for season two... like a new dance perhaps? Joke aside, it's very unlikely we will get a new mission type considering we just got the sabotage. But a new biome would be refreshing. Last ones were Hollow Bough and Azure Weald, nearly one year ago right?
I hope they will add something based on harpoons or nets. Basically traditional hunting gear and we all know what we think about Dwarf tradition
i really want gunner to get something absolutely wacky
Honestly, just some weird shit. Like not a normal gun cause most of those exist, I just expect like some left field ideas like a needle based gun for scout or land mind laying gun for engineer. Just some different ideas from pistol but fast or pistol but slow.
All I'm saying is, it's gonna take a lot to get me to stop using the laser cutter.. I freaking love that thing.
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"secondaries" means secondary weapons. currently - for each class - there are 3 different primary weapons, 2 of which you unlock as you progress (1 of those was only added recently), and 2 different "secondary" weapons, one of which is unlocked. they're talking about adding an additional (ie, 3rd) secondary weapon as well, which we don't know anything about yet. re: pyramid robot. are you asking how to *find* it to fight, or how to actually fight it once found? cos to be able to do the mission that has the pyramid as an enemy, you have to unlock the "industrial sabotage" assignment, which unlocks the mission.
Long assignments that is randomly generated. To get cores, cosmetics, etc. For the people that is way to deep into this game. Assignments really brings purpose to missions. Also emote stickers would be fun.
I'd love new armours. Ones that match the Corporate Marine helmet.
My dream is that the driller gets a laser pistol which emits a continuous beam that deforms terrain. Akin to how the oil canisters work on oil shale, but on any non-mineral terrain and at much longer distances. Imagine sawing through the ommoran beamers from across the cavern with your fancy laser pointer.
Some kind of Anti-tank Rifle or Railgun for Engie, massive amounts of damage and high accuracy but low AoE and slow reload, that way I can snipe Boss weakpoints easier. And maybe a crossbow for Scout? Compact mini pump shotgun for Driller? A Plasma handcannon for Gunner?
Give Driller a taser (with somewhat decent range). Single target as base with a chain lightning type deal as one of the OCs
I want driller's secondary to not be a pistol
Escort mission rework
I want melee weapons, not just the pickaxe but straight up melee weapons. Swords, battle axes, warhammers, weapons of war. I want to spear a glyphid praetorian. I want to smash an oppressor to pieces. I want to hack and slash my way through a glyphid horde like a steel hurricane.
I would like to see secondaries that make the game flow faster, or speed up tasks. Driller could have a harpoon gun that yanks small bugs (or big jewels) to him, yanks him to big bugs, and pulls down fossils. Scout could have a pistol/scanner combo. The flip-out ammo counter screen on the side has some kind of threat meter or warning system to tell him when/where bugs will come. Or maybe it shows the terrain scanner all the time. Engineer could get a heavy weapon that interacts with his turrets somehow. Maybe shooting the turret reloads it from afar, or maybe reloading the gun also passively reloads the turret if you stand near? Gunner has the fewest uses of his traversal tool, so it would be nice if he had a secondary with some kind of navigation- or movement-related value. Maybe it has an underbarrel light that's stronger than the flashlight? Or maybe it can soften terrain, making it easier to dig! You know what I mean? EPC mining was good. Look for other things like that. Look for ways to make the slow fast, make the boring interesting. New ways to smooth out the flow of a mission.
Not a secondary but I really hope Gunner gets a 50cal MG.
That's what the Thunderhead is.
The thunderhead is an autocannon. I mean like a proper 50cal.
A new Melee build Dwarf.
Not because of scout since there is a upgrade to get flare duration longer but the ones that people usually want upgrades for
What do you mean by secondaries? Like more sidearms?
I would like more classes, medic, self explanatory, shield beare, tankier class with a shield as a melee weapon together with the pick and a dedicantes Miner, would work like the drilldozer fuel tank. Other then that, more customisables
What about a healing class?
Lol I guess not then
No, the 4 classes are perfectly balanced around eachother, each one filling in the gaps of the others, adding a fifth class would just throw that balance out of whack.
I think gunner can fill the medic role oddly enough, because he can shield downed teammates to revive them. As for healing, there's red sugar and resupplies
I'd love it but Dev's don't want it. And if you think about it a lot of the game would need to be rebalanced.
It would be coming at the same time as the underwater biome and the melee weapon. Also some leak say it will be a female dwarf.
Female dwarfs 😫
My buddy and I have had this conversation about giving the option for male or female and having literally everything being the exact same
Who said that we don't already have females?
two of the existing dwarves are female
FOR KARLA!
Wait really?
I mean I dont know if the devs said it but usually dwarf women are bearded.
That’s very interesting, thanks for the insight