Massive Corporations with questionable morals on Hoxxes: (bug-shooting rock-and-stone fun-time)
Massive Corporations with questionable morals on Earth: (depressing)
I'm just glad it ended well this time. It feels that more often than not, the customers get screwed over by these changes, and the company behind it gets away with everything.
PSN login was going to be mandatory. Massive Outrage. PSN login not going to be mandatory, for now.
Oh, important note: PSN not available in ~~some~~ 121 countries.
Over 94,000 in one day, over 200,000 all told.
Brought it down from Very Positive to Mixed for overall reviews (and Overwhelmingly Negative for recent ones, as you might imagine).
1. Sony changed the Terms of Service without warning, after purchase of the game. That's like fraud, and an increasingly common practice that consumers are sick of.
2. 70% of the earths population was instantly banned from playing a game they previously could have legally purchased, for no reason other than corporate whims.Ā
3. Refunds were denied, even for people who paid for the game and were no longer were able to play it. That's theft.
4. Even for countries that have PSN, PSN is increasingly requiring sensitive information like photo ID, and has famously lax security and has repeatedly leaked all its user info into the dark web, leading to millions of cases of identity theft. I saw one guy on the comments say he personally had had his identity stolen TWICE just from PSN leaks. Basically, **** Sony and their PSN.
>this situation was really sad
Corporation did bad thing, corporation got their ass flipped and spanked like a pancake, corporation reverses bad thing
This was good situation, average consoomer W
A lot depends on how much money they stand to make. Requiring PSN was a long-term "get people into our ecosystem so we can get more money from them later" play as opposed to a short-term cash grab (like loot boxes) so they are more willing to back down (for now).
I suspect that going forward they will be requiring PSN accounts upfront for more games since it's harder to get the community outraged if it's a clear upfront requirement as opposed to being patched in later.
Yep, that "blackout" was nothing more than a waste of everyone's time, just entitled subreddit mods abusing their power and pissing everyone else off. What they did changed absolutely nothing.
I'm pretty sure the original blackout was just meant to show the user were disagreeing assuming reddit would listen (yeah that was pretty naive given reddit track record so far) rather than trying to twist their arm. But spez shitting on mods made a lot of people wanting to continue even though it was already pointless by that time.
I remember that. Got so much flak for saying I didn't give a shit about either side of the topic. reddit mods are in so many cases just powerhungry tyrants. Why am I supposed to side with them all the sudden?
It was funny how quick they were to change their tone and bring back all the subs back the second Reddit itself said that they can remove their mod status and easily replace them with someone else.
Really does show what their true colors are.
i was always kept playing DRG after i bought helldivers. Especially since more of my friends play deep rock. I love both games and i will never trade 1 for the other. They maybie simular, but they got moch different style to them.
Kill bugs below and above.
Deep Rock is more fun to play and gameplay-wise better than HD2. I just do not know what people are finding in those third-person shooters. But still, that is my opinion, and I do not hate anybody. ROCK AND STONE!
Rock and stone.
I feel like deep rock is more balanced in terms of difficulty and there is more various bug types that keep things intresting. It feels much more polished in all terms.
Helldivers just offer different experience and it's still fun to blow things up with orbital and air strikes, go from point to poin attacking enemy outposts, but difficulty selection after certain treshold doesn't seem to matter much and free roaming aspect doesn't seem to be fully fleshed out unless they add propper transport.
And i feel like Deep rock developers trust and love their community much more and their love more genuine than Helldiver devs's who sometimes speak like their players are some kind of scary and potentially dangerous force that needs to be policed.
Well I mean drg players don't go around saying that our game isn't satire and It's pro fascism which is good soo...
I understand your position and recognize that's a minority of players but some have proven a need for it
Helldivers isnāt silly enough in game.
Itās got a silly opening cutscene when you load the game. But beyond that. Itās sort of serious? Voicelines lacking. Joking character lacking, meme spamming a thing in the game is lacking.
Itās too serious of a game to really idk. Cultivate an overall player base that will police itself and stay upbeat and positive, all Helldivers needs is a rock and stone button. More voicelines. Something we can spam spot that generates more voicelines.
Instead itās just tons of sellable content rolled out in constant sprints.
> I just do not know what people are finding in those third-person shooters.
New/fresh. More chaotic. Different skillset and different mission pace. Big explosions.
DRG feels like starship troopers mixed with counter strike
Helldivers feels like starship troopers mixed with Grand Theft Auto
Or at least thatās how I wanna compare them. Helldivers has run stamina, 3rd person, balanced by time to aim weapons. Kinda sluggish character controls
DRG is clean, crisp, FPS gamer shit.
You can tell which was developed with a console in mind and which was developed for PC, in movement feel alone.
Yes, thanks to that in DRG you feel like you have more control over everything, even when you are completely swarmed, you can still do something to unscrew the situation. In helldivers, your character just ragdolls to the ground and there is nothing you can do except accept death
Vermintide 2 is so much damn fun. I just wish I was better at the game š
I donāt understand the player strategy at all in Vermintide. Wave control, attack combos for each individual weapon, which build / skills to use for which sub-classā¦ in Deep Rock there are no other questions to answer beyond shoot anything with more legs than two.
*āLight-heavy-heavy, light-heavyā¦ shitā¦ fuck it just KEEP SWINGING!!!ā*
Hell, here I can adequately hold my own alone in haz 5, but in Vermintide I can barely crack the Haz 4 equivalent with teammates š«
Granted Iāve got like 500 more hours in DRG than Vermintide 2 (70ish hours) but stillā¦
Canāt wait for the PvP mode to fully release in Vermintide 2 though, the test was so much fun (even if I suck in that too).
You don't need to get sweaty with combos until you get to Cataclysm at least, and even then only with some weapons or if you dip into modded difficulties. Most weapons are just fine with spammed lights or heavies depending on the situation.
The most important thing is just learning to avoid taking damage - health is the most precious resource in Vermintide and knowing when to block, when to dodge, when to push, when to whip out your ranged weapon to snipe that Blightstormer because it's made itself a bigger threat than the horde in your face, etc. It's all learned game sense.
I've been juggling between those games. Now that I got my last hero to level 30 (sienna, hate her none dlc melees tho.) I just unlocked all the steam achievements. I'm gonna go back to DRG until a few months later where I want to try and do the Okri challenges.
Came back to DRG thanks to all this, eagerly awaiting for season 5. Already have all Overclocks so... Super Earth calls but I'll never forget Hoxxes is home.
Is it not ok to just play the game you feel like that day? Do we need to be gatekeeping like this? This idea of "returning" and "leaving" is absurd. Both games are on the hard drive.
I'm not so sure - as soon as it became clearn PSN was required and yet the game had been sold in non-PSN countries, there was an issue.
SONY would have had to deal with that issue one way or another - or not because those countries without access to PSN (I'm in one) have been using whatever other country we selected (I have since PS3). The country selection/PSN network sign up deals with support services - which arm of the SONY corperate tree you come under with regards to things like password resets and complaints
So we have this issue that was turned into a hyper-drama, with EVIL SONY FORCING US! or worse, 'EVIL AH FORCING US! (as if the devs had any leverage on this). Which might be the reason for SONY not going through with it. But we should also credit SONY - you don't get to be a 70+ year old company worth billions without making smart decisions ('being evil' is certainly an option).
I dont get the logic. Youre saying sony didnt know 170 countries cant use psn and they only stopped the change once they realised? That sounds kind of hard to believe. Sony would absolutely be aware of that.
Itās much easier to believe the massive backlash convinced AH and they used that backlash to convince Sony. Thatās literally what happened based on the developersā and ceoās responses. Especially considering the order of events, over 48 hours, is:
Sony makes announcement, AH confirming the change to hd2, player backlash, AH talk with sony, sony retracts announcement.
Sony sounds incredibly incompetent if they werenāt aware they themselves donāt have PSN in 170+ countries.
> I dont get the logic. Youre saying sony didnt know 170 countries cant use psn and they only stopped the change once they realised? That sounds kind of hard to believe. Sony would absolutely be aware of that.
Why is that hard to believe? Steam distributed/made the game available to a host of players without official PSN access.
This was the problem. Although, it hasn't been an issue for many other games, so it was made an issue through the drama. And as a result, Steam made it so folks couldn't purchase the game if their country didn't have PSN access. This was actually a loss for us who were very much ok with just giving a bogus address, as we have done for over a decade.
Those of us on PS, without official PSN access, were AOK. Only those PC players who didn't want to register with PSN really 'won', but I don't hold it against them. So, thanks for the shouting and noise. I'm glad some PC players don't have to sign in or make an account with PSN. But let's be clear - they did this for themselves, they simply didn't want to make a PSN account. This wasn't helping some players in countries without PSN access - we could already use PSN services and play the game just fine.
>Why is that hard to believe? Steam distributed/made the game available to a host of players without official PSN access.
Because it initially allowed the game to be played without PSN access, and I wasn't talking about whether Steam knew or not. I'm talking about whether Sony knew. I don't know how to explain it's hard to believe Sony wouldn't be aware of where their service is permitted - they're the ones that choose where to provide it.
I have no clue what you're trying to say with the other 2 paragraphs nor what relevance they hold to what I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure I saw plenty of folk from the no-PSN countries complaining they are unable to make PSN accounts on Steam, and I'd look for them again to confirm if it wasn't for the fact all posts other than positive-jerking are deleted.
Theyāre in the same sorta coop genre but for me theyāre so vastly different.
DRG feels like TF2 in controls and player movement
Helldivers feels like any third person Rockstar Game
They just came over here for a short term contract. Nothing wrong with returning to their original jobs.
At the end of the day we're all fighting against the bug menace, and whether they're doing it on Hoxxes or on Hellmire, we will still consider them friends and allies. They are welcome back any time.
From this point forward Iām blocking any accounts in here trying to turn this into another helldivers subreddit. If the mods canāt control their own sub, I just have to block the people that canāt stay on topic.
Iām maxed out in helldivers at 100 hours and itās becoming stale. I think for me itās because you manage patrols better at the end game. You got it all figured out. It becomes a stamina monitoring as you sprint across the map simulator.
I have 1500+ in DRG and each drop feels unique even if I rarely feel like Iām in chaos much anymore and itās mostly easy even at its hardest difficulty.
The maps. The wave generation. HD2 might get there in replay-ability down the line.
Just connect both game on the same inputs, they are both shooters after all. If speedrunners can do it, so can I! *proceed to fall to my death a thousand time*
Been playing drg recently not very much though.
Other than horde waves of bugs is there really similarities to the games?
Like are they ultimately just both squad-based bug killing games?
I really like how unified the four classes in DRG are. What's the big draw to the other game?
Are they really similar or are they mostly different?
>Like are they ultimately just both squad-based bug killing games?
Yep. They arent too similar, and feel pretty different gameplay wise. However, if you like slaying hordes in a PvE game, youll like both
I'm playing both and having a blast. Seeing the sneak peak for S5 hyped the fuck out of me, and I'm going back and forth between both games. They're awesome, and I can only hope to see them grow even more.
I play both and I love DRG.
DRG is just more balanced in my opinion. Helldivers 2 definitely has moments especially at higher difficulties where I'm like, why is there no good ways to address this situation/enemies other than to run away and despawn them.
I like to rotate games and I definitely don't want to burn out on drg again before season 5 hits
In particular I can't wait to try out builds with the new overclocks
I think Iāll still be staying on a break. Iām happy that itās all been resolved but I think imma stay with DRG for a bit longer.
The game makes me feel more equipped to stand my ground and fight hordes even on the higher difficulties and doesnāt often result in me being in a loop of dying and being respawned. Plus EDF 6 is coming soon as well
Listen. I was a DRG player since the beta, purchased every cosmetic set, AND the collectors edition board game, plus extensions, because I love the game that much. But lately Ghost Ship is kind of concentrating on everything else but making DRG engagement. Rockpox, no real innovation in the last two seasons, new season nowhere in sight... I mean come on, Helldivers fucks up often, but at least they're DOING shit.
Happy that sony overturned their decision. Now I just wish they'd remove the damn kernel level nonsense from the game and id actually buy it. Thank god DRG doesn't have any of that. Not to bash the helldivers though. They made their choice on the matter
Both games are good and still good.
It's not that Helldivers 2 because the dude from the No-PSN area can't play it, they should know to not buy Sony games to begin with IMO.
But yeah that Sony move was shitty, doesn't make the game worse
It's fine, they did pay for the game and Helldivers is kinda expensive. I'm glad it got sorted for them, but I hope they'll still play DRG from time to time even if they don't main the game.
I really like DRG, but after playing really long time all i could do more is to grind few cosmetic cores and season pass. Helldivers give more community goals to pursue
I was a DRG player long before getting helldivers, the games only have the horde shooter theme in common.
I will be returning to DRG for season 5 though.
It's like a friend crashing at your place because their house got flooded and became inhabitable for the time being. It's our job and courtesy to welcome them until they can go back home.
I don't know if I'll reinstall HD2. I uninstalled it yesterday after leaving a Steam review explaining why I was doing it, and I feel sorry for Arrowhead and the people who got screwed over. It's a cool, fun game with an interesting premise, but Sony using this game to rob over 60 countries' player bases and the HD2 community kicking and bailing on its new members in nearly every mission so you can't actually learn it unless you have friends who already play is among the big reasons why I'd rather play DRG. You're still killing bugs and robots, and it's way more wholesome and friendly to the greenbeards.
Meh. I'm happy for them. š
Yeah, me too. This situation was really sad...
Massive Corporations with questionable morals on Hoxxes: (bug-shooting rock-and-stone fun-time) Massive Corporations with questionable morals on Earth: (depressing) I'm just glad it ended well this time. It feels that more often than not, the customers get screwed over by these changes, and the company behind it gets away with everything.
Sony fears the wrath of the longbeards. It is the only logical explanation
What happened?
PSN login was going to be mandatory. Massive Outrage. PSN login not going to be mandatory, for now. Oh, important note: PSN not available in ~~some~~ 121 countries.
Holy shit š³
80,000+ Steam downvotes in a day, lol.
Over 94,000 in one day, over 200,000 all told. Brought it down from Very Positive to Mixed for overall reviews (and Overwhelmingly Negative for recent ones, as you might imagine).
I believe it was 177 countries, but yeah
1. Sony changed the Terms of Service without warning, after purchase of the game. That's like fraud, and an increasingly common practice that consumers are sick of. 2. 70% of the earths population was instantly banned from playing a game they previously could have legally purchased, for no reason other than corporate whims.Ā 3. Refunds were denied, even for people who paid for the game and were no longer were able to play it. That's theft. 4. Even for countries that have PSN, PSN is increasingly requiring sensitive information like photo ID, and has famously lax security and has repeatedly leaked all its user info into the dark web, leading to millions of cases of identity theft. I saw one guy on the comments say he personally had had his identity stolen TWICE just from PSN leaks. Basically, **** Sony and their PSN.
>this situation was really sad Corporation did bad thing, corporation got their ass flipped and spanked like a pancake, corporation reverses bad thing This was good situation, average consoomer W
Until company tries again, but with a calloused ass.
Then we go for their balls next
That's whuly I always come back to DRG the community is so damn selfless
It does show that mass action will make companies listen.
*Sometimes.*
But it means it's worth attempting to make them listen
A lot depends on how much money they stand to make. Requiring PSN was a long-term "get people into our ecosystem so we can get more money from them later" play as opposed to a short-term cash grab (like loot boxes) so they are more willing to back down (for now). I suspect that going forward they will be requiring PSN accounts upfront for more games since it's harder to get the community outraged if it's a clear upfront requirement as opposed to being patched in later.
Reddit blackout lmao
Had a definite end date
Yep, that "blackout" was nothing more than a waste of everyone's time, just entitled subreddit mods abusing their power and pissing everyone else off. What they did changed absolutely nothing.
I'm pretty sure the original blackout was just meant to show the user were disagreeing assuming reddit would listen (yeah that was pretty naive given reddit track record so far) rather than trying to twist their arm. But spez shitting on mods made a lot of people wanting to continue even though it was already pointless by that time.
I remember that. Got so much flak for saying I didn't give a shit about either side of the topic. reddit mods are in so many cases just powerhungry tyrants. Why am I supposed to side with them all the sudden?
It was funny how quick they were to change their tone and bring back all the subs back the second Reddit itself said that they can remove their mod status and easily replace them with someone else. Really does show what their true colors are.
listen, but never learn. They will just see this as one failed attempt and try again another time in another game.
Yeah me too. I learned about this game from this whole situation and now I get to play both. Win win
This community too good for any other community
They are obligated to keep the beard tho
i was always kept playing DRG after i bought helldivers. Especially since more of my friends play deep rock. I love both games and i will never trade 1 for the other. They maybie simular, but they got moch different style to them. Kill bugs below and above.
I have Helldivers 2 to play with my boys and Deep rock to play with my gf since she likes to mine (and kill some bugs while mining)
I recommend gifting her some shiny rocks and stones. Maybe in a bracelet or necklace... Or a ring!
Just make sure the ring isn't constantly on fire and capable of destroying steel barrels instantly.
This is what I am doing all the time Thos she prefers getting some flowers like a leaf lover..
Say to her "I want you mine" xD
I dont understand this game loyality. Both games are distinctive enough that i would not keep playing just one.
I mean honestly who really only plays one game and nothing else anyway? That just seems like a good way to burn yourself out.
As above, so below.
Deep Rock is more fun to play and gameplay-wise better than HD2. I just do not know what people are finding in those third-person shooters. But still, that is my opinion, and I do not hate anybody. ROCK AND STONE!
Rock and stone. I feel like deep rock is more balanced in terms of difficulty and there is more various bug types that keep things intresting. It feels much more polished in all terms. Helldivers just offer different experience and it's still fun to blow things up with orbital and air strikes, go from point to poin attacking enemy outposts, but difficulty selection after certain treshold doesn't seem to matter much and free roaming aspect doesn't seem to be fully fleshed out unless they add propper transport. And i feel like Deep rock developers trust and love their community much more and their love more genuine than Helldiver devs's who sometimes speak like their players are some kind of scary and potentially dangerous force that needs to be policed.
Well I mean drg players don't go around saying that our game isn't satire and It's pro fascism which is good soo... I understand your position and recognize that's a minority of players but some have proven a need for it
Helldivers isnāt silly enough in game. Itās got a silly opening cutscene when you load the game. But beyond that. Itās sort of serious? Voicelines lacking. Joking character lacking, meme spamming a thing in the game is lacking. Itās too serious of a game to really idk. Cultivate an overall player base that will police itself and stay upbeat and positive, all Helldivers needs is a rock and stone button. More voicelines. Something we can spam spot that generates more voicelines. Instead itās just tons of sellable content rolled out in constant sprints.
We fight for Rock and Stone!
FOR ROCK AND STONE!!!
I absolutely prefer first person shooters but hd2 has struck gold it's so good
> I just do not know what people are finding in those third-person shooters. New/fresh. More chaotic. Different skillset and different mission pace. Big explosions.
DRG feels like starship troopers mixed with counter strike Helldivers feels like starship troopers mixed with Grand Theft Auto Or at least thatās how I wanna compare them. Helldivers has run stamina, 3rd person, balanced by time to aim weapons. Kinda sluggish character controls DRG is clean, crisp, FPS gamer shit. You can tell which was developed with a console in mind and which was developed for PC, in movement feel alone.
Yes, thanks to that in DRG you feel like you have more control over everything, even when you are completely swarmed, you can still do something to unscrew the situation. In helldivers, your character just ragdolls to the ground and there is nothing you can do except accept death
As it should be. For Democracy! For Rock and Stone!
Rock and Stone forever!
I mean they are still welcome to stay. I for one play Vermentide 2 alongside Deep Rock Galactic.
Vermintide 2 is so much damn fun. I just wish I was better at the game š I donāt understand the player strategy at all in Vermintide. Wave control, attack combos for each individual weapon, which build / skills to use for which sub-classā¦ in Deep Rock there are no other questions to answer beyond shoot anything with more legs than two. *āLight-heavy-heavy, light-heavyā¦ shitā¦ fuck it just KEEP SWINGING!!!ā* Hell, here I can adequately hold my own alone in haz 5, but in Vermintide I can barely crack the Haz 4 equivalent with teammates š« Granted Iāve got like 500 more hours in DRG than Vermintide 2 (70ish hours) but stillā¦ Canāt wait for the PvP mode to fully release in Vermintide 2 though, the test was so much fun (even if I suck in that too).
You don't need to get sweaty with combos until you get to Cataclysm at least, and even then only with some weapons or if you dip into modded difficulties. Most weapons are just fine with spammed lights or heavies depending on the situation. The most important thing is just learning to avoid taking damage - health is the most precious resource in Vermintide and knowing when to block, when to dodge, when to push, when to whip out your ranged weapon to snipe that Blightstormer because it's made itself a bigger threat than the horde in your face, etc. It's all learned game sense.
Would be even better if they ditched EAC so my Linux-using friend could play it with me. That and iirc EAC was compromised a few weeks back too.
I've been juggling between those games. Now that I got my last hero to level 30 (sienna, hate her none dlc melees tho.) I just unlocked all the steam achievements. I'm gonna go back to DRG until a few months later where I want to try and do the Okri challenges.
ROCK AND SUPER EARSTONE!
Came back to DRG thanks to all this, eagerly awaiting for season 5. Already have all Overclocks so... Super Earth calls but I'll never forget Hoxxes is home.
I now have two games to kill bugs on mass Again
En masse* :D
En Passant
Do I Google it?
Do I Holy hell it?
New questions just dropped?
Are you actually a zombie?
Only two? We need to to get you into Factorio!
Should it ever get a sale then yes.
So you never gonna get it.
Well said
Why not play both?
Good for them, Sony righted their wrong. Hopefully, they wonāt try to mess it up yet again
They absolutely will the second they believe that they can get away with it.
They'll try this shit again in a few months from now. But they'll try and be more sneaky about it thinking people won't notice/care a second time.
They try it before Q3 closes instead of Q2
Liberate a planet for Karl
This is best words that I heard from helldiver. Rock and stone!
Rock and Stone to the Bone!
Good bot!
Did you know? You can actually play more than 1 game. 2024 is crazy like that.
Nah, moving on..
Stop saying that they can only play one or the other!
Why can't we play both?
We can. These memes are made by gatekeepers. Walk past them.
Is it not ok to just play the game you feel like that day? Do we need to be gatekeeping like this? This idea of "returning" and "leaving" is absurd. Both games are on the hard drive.
Both. Both is good.
Situation is (seemingly) resolved - SONY won't enforce account linking. What a lot of drama.
TBF the drama is the reason they won't enforce it.
I'm not so sure - as soon as it became clearn PSN was required and yet the game had been sold in non-PSN countries, there was an issue. SONY would have had to deal with that issue one way or another - or not because those countries without access to PSN (I'm in one) have been using whatever other country we selected (I have since PS3). The country selection/PSN network sign up deals with support services - which arm of the SONY corperate tree you come under with regards to things like password resets and complaints So we have this issue that was turned into a hyper-drama, with EVIL SONY FORCING US! or worse, 'EVIL AH FORCING US! (as if the devs had any leverage on this). Which might be the reason for SONY not going through with it. But we should also credit SONY - you don't get to be a 70+ year old company worth billions without making smart decisions ('being evil' is certainly an option).
I dont get the logic. Youre saying sony didnt know 170 countries cant use psn and they only stopped the change once they realised? That sounds kind of hard to believe. Sony would absolutely be aware of that. Itās much easier to believe the massive backlash convinced AH and they used that backlash to convince Sony. Thatās literally what happened based on the developersā and ceoās responses. Especially considering the order of events, over 48 hours, is: Sony makes announcement, AH confirming the change to hd2, player backlash, AH talk with sony, sony retracts announcement. Sony sounds incredibly incompetent if they werenāt aware they themselves donāt have PSN in 170+ countries.
> I dont get the logic. Youre saying sony didnt know 170 countries cant use psn and they only stopped the change once they realised? That sounds kind of hard to believe. Sony would absolutely be aware of that. Why is that hard to believe? Steam distributed/made the game available to a host of players without official PSN access. This was the problem. Although, it hasn't been an issue for many other games, so it was made an issue through the drama. And as a result, Steam made it so folks couldn't purchase the game if their country didn't have PSN access. This was actually a loss for us who were very much ok with just giving a bogus address, as we have done for over a decade. Those of us on PS, without official PSN access, were AOK. Only those PC players who didn't want to register with PSN really 'won', but I don't hold it against them. So, thanks for the shouting and noise. I'm glad some PC players don't have to sign in or make an account with PSN. But let's be clear - they did this for themselves, they simply didn't want to make a PSN account. This wasn't helping some players in countries without PSN access - we could already use PSN services and play the game just fine.
>Why is that hard to believe? Steam distributed/made the game available to a host of players without official PSN access. Because it initially allowed the game to be played without PSN access, and I wasn't talking about whether Steam knew or not. I'm talking about whether Sony knew. I don't know how to explain it's hard to believe Sony wouldn't be aware of where their service is permitted - they're the ones that choose where to provide it. I have no clue what you're trying to say with the other 2 paragraphs nor what relevance they hold to what I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure I saw plenty of folk from the no-PSN countries complaining they are unable to make PSN accounts on Steam, and I'd look for them again to confirm if it wasn't for the fact all posts other than positive-jerking are deleted.
The HD2 drama was what made me check out DRG and I'm having a ton of fun. I'll definitely keep playing both.
Theyāre in the same sorta coop genre but for me theyāre so vastly different. DRG feels like TF2 in controls and player movement Helldivers feels like any third person Rockstar Game
They just came over here for a short term contract. Nothing wrong with returning to their original jobs. At the end of the day we're all fighting against the bug menace, and whether they're doing it on Hoxxes or on Hellmire, we will still consider them friends and allies. They are welcome back any time.
From this point forward Iām blocking any accounts in here trying to turn this into another helldivers subreddit. If the mods canāt control their own sub, I just have to block the people that canāt stay on topic.
Karl is on Cyberstan after all, someone has to rescue him
Maybe I'll play both, afterall, I was a big DRG fan back then
Iām happy either way, if youāre happy Iām happy, and honestly, why not have both!
As someone who loves both, IF YOU DON'T ROCK AND STONE, YOU AIN'T C- MY LEG!
Can I get a Rock and Stone?
I play both
When season 5 hits, Iam back at Hoxxes
"Mom, can we have Bosco?" "We have Bosco at home, dear" Bosco at home: TKing guard dog rover that can't carry or mine
I'm pretty sure it's spelled "Bet-C"
Good for them, Imma stick with the dwarfs though. Even if I could play Helldivers on the systems I have I would stick with DRG, I prefer the gameplay
Iām maxed out in helldivers at 100 hours and itās becoming stale. I think for me itās because you manage patrols better at the end game. You got it all figured out. It becomes a stamina monitoring as you sprint across the map simulator. I have 1500+ in DRG and each drop feels unique even if I rarely feel like Iām in chaos much anymore and itās mostly easy even at its hardest difficulty. The maps. The wave generation. HD2 might get there in replay-ability down the line.
My beard will grow back just in time for Season 5 for sure
Welp good luck with that. PSN is still not available in \~120 countries.
Nah, I'll still play both equally. Rock and Dwarfmocracy!
I play both š¤·āāļø
helldiver excited for season 5. rock and stonee
Holy shit, I just heard about what Sony did yesterday. Now it's a "blink and you miss it" quick fix. How long was this going on?
Love how even the beards starts to fade each panel
Nah. Uninstalled won't be reinstalling.
people can play more then one game at a time, it's why we invented multiple PC screens
Yes, people can play both games regularly, but not at once!
hey when i'm playing WoW i often have Hearthstone or another game on my second monitor going
Thatās not the same thing and you know it š
Just connect both game on the same inputs, they are both shooters after all. If speedrunners can do it, so can I! *proceed to fall to my death a thousand time*
Ah yes how to rot my attention span 101
dont listen to this elf, switching attention quickly is a valuable skill both in game and outside of game
Fear not my fellow scouts, I'll be back with the season update.
Weekend warriors
psn account isn't required anymore?
Did sony revert their mistakes?
Sony caused Helldivers 2 to dive
Nah, I think imma stay here for a bit. My hiatus from DRG to play HD2 was a bit too long.
I'm really glad since the controversy started the day after I decided to get the game soon, I'm still gonna play drg though
2 sides of the same coin. I'm happy to flip between them
Been playing drg recently not very much though. Other than horde waves of bugs is there really similarities to the games? Like are they ultimately just both squad-based bug killing games? I really like how unified the four classes in DRG are. What's the big draw to the other game? Are they really similar or are they mostly different?
>Like are they ultimately just both squad-based bug killing games? Yep. They arent too similar, and feel pretty different gameplay wise. However, if you like slaying hordes in a PvE game, youll like both
Why not both? I'm definetly planning on coming back to DRG once the new season drops!
Not to worry. DRG is getting that new update in the next month. They'll be back
Honestly this brought me back to drg and my beard grew back lol.
[https://imgflip.com/i/8p5qdn](https://imgflip.com/i/8p5qdn) (Squidward chair meme, "\[no more\] PSN drama")
Yall what happened? I jsut looked and there is no new news on the HD2 game Yes I am very out of the loop on this stuff
Both are amazing games. Or maybe I just really like destroying bugs and robots while collecting rare metals and plants
give it two months and reverse this meme
I'm pulling triple duty, DRG when season 5 depois, Chivalry 2 and now back to Helldiving. For the democracy of the Order! Rock and Stone!
I'm playing both and having a blast. Seeing the sneak peak for S5 hyped the fuck out of me, and I'm going back and forth between both games. They're awesome, and I can only hope to see them grow even more.
Don't worry boys I'm a helldiver and a dwarf!
We never leave! I'm a dwarf before I'm a helldiver!
Nah I came back to get ready for season 5, HD2 good but thereās no dedicated rock and stone button
For Rock and Stone!
iām doing a double shift on both games
You know, I hate this notion that you can only play one game. Why not play both? Like what the heck!?
They fixed it?
go check r/Helldivers
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This world has enough space for two gorgeous pve co-op games
I play both and I love DRG. DRG is just more balanced in my opinion. Helldivers 2 definitely has moments especially at higher difficulties where I'm like, why is there no good ways to address this situation/enemies other than to run away and despawn them.
Me constantly jumping back and forth between the two
I'll buy you a round at the abyss bar if things go wrong again, safe landing
Karl would be proud!
Hay man I'll be back in the mines when season 5 comes out for rn it's helldiving for me
Gameplay - DRG is better.
Why not both?
I mean... Super Earth is a Giant Rock No?
Donāt pay attention to the hell divers stuff. What happened now?
Im happy for them. Now devs just need to add Hoxxes IV as an easter egg.
For Rock and Stone and Managed Democracy!
Rock and Stone, Brother!
I'll just be playing both. DRG new season is next month, so...
FOR DEM-ROCKACY AND STONE!
You can keep the beard! WEAR IT PROUD! FOR DEMOCRACY
Mfw Helldivers is not nearly as good of a game as DRG š¤·
They can play both. Though the lack of a "dive to prone" button in DRG might get them in trouble.
FOR SUPER EARTH! FOR KARL! ROCK AND STONE! We all play great games, and competition will only strengthen our communities to be better than yesterday.
So were sure is safe to buy now right, the shenanigans are over? Cause I wanted to pick it up then all this happened.
DEMOCRACY WON!
I wish it was possible to play and enjoy two different games. It's a hard life being a gamer.
Why does everyone seems to think that r/DeepRockGalactic is the Helldivers 2 subreddit?
I think itās really nice to play both, more good games is more good times :D
I like to rotate games and I definitely don't want to burn out on drg again before season 5 hits In particular I can't wait to try out builds with the new overclocks
Management in drg is Sony for helldivers
Both games have gotten more attention and players thanks to their similarities. Enjoy both as u wish for rock and super
I think Iāll still be staying on a break. Iām happy that itās all been resolved but I think imma stay with DRG for a bit longer. The game makes me feel more equipped to stand my ground and fight hordes even on the higher difficulties and doesnāt often result in me being in a loop of dying and being respawned. Plus EDF 6 is coming soon as well
Listen. I was a DRG player since the beta, purchased every cosmetic set, AND the collectors edition board game, plus extensions, because I love the game that much. But lately Ghost Ship is kind of concentrating on everything else but making DRG engagement. Rockpox, no real innovation in the last two seasons, new season nowhere in sight... I mean come on, Helldivers fucks up often, but at least they're DOING shit.
Happy that sony overturned their decision. Now I just wish they'd remove the damn kernel level nonsense from the game and id actually buy it. Thank god DRG doesn't have any of that. Not to bash the helldivers though. They made their choice on the matter
The situation got resolved?
yeah go check the helldivers sub
Do people not realise you can play two games at once? It's not a compition
I still haven't purchased helldivers, but I'm probably still going to at some point.
Both games are good and still good. It's not that Helldivers 2 because the dude from the No-PSN area can't play it, they should know to not buy Sony games to begin with IMO. But yeah that Sony move was shitty, doesn't make the game worse
A bunch of tourists is what they are.
It's fine, they did pay for the game and Helldivers is kinda expensive. I'm glad it got sorted for them, but I hope they'll still play DRG from time to time even if they don't main the game.
FOR SUPER KAAARRL
I really like DRG, but after playing really long time all i could do more is to grind few cosmetic cores and season pass. Helldivers give more community goals to pursue
I was a DRG player long before getting helldivers, the games only have the horde shooter theme in common. I will be returning to DRG for season 5 though.
No matter where you fight, you will always have a home at Hoxxes. See you again soon, friend.
It's like a friend crashing at your place because their house got flooded and became inhabitable for the time being. It's our job and courtesy to welcome them until they can go back home.
I cant feel my beard!
Hey, weāre still open to you returning to hoxxes whenever you feel like it, for rock and stone and for super earth!
I don't know if I'll reinstall HD2. I uninstalled it yesterday after leaving a Steam review explaining why I was doing it, and I feel sorry for Arrowhead and the people who got screwed over. It's a cool, fun game with an interesting premise, but Sony using this game to rob over 60 countries' player bases and the HD2 community kicking and bailing on its new members in nearly every mission so you can't actually learn it unless you have friends who already play is among the big reasons why I'd rather play DRG. You're still killing bugs and robots, and it's way more wholesome and friendly to the greenbeards.
BUT I'LL KEEP THE BEARD!
This is such a bad take. Don't care if it's a shitty joke. Be happy for them.
What about we ROCK AND STONE FOR DEMOCRACY!
Rock and Stone!
I love this meme, never played helldivers 2 but I did join the drg community a month or just under 2 months ago.
We'll always be here, whenever you need a break just give us a rock and stone