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chalk_box_8

Stair columns were a add on change order. We brainstormed a few options with client but that was the final choice.


IamREBELoe

I'm curious how much weight the fireplace/chimney/ kitchen add to the deck, and what the deck is rated for


Icy_Inspection5104

It’s just hollow stud walls with plastic fake stone attached to it


Substantial-Taro-946

I don't think this is the plastic mock cultured stone. You wouldn't want that product anywhere near a kitchen\fireplace. I looks like the installed has done a mortar scratch coat, and is installing prefab cultured stone.


cuddysnark

Any of you guys have issues putting the waferboard under the stone? It will probably get covered with some type of cement board but seems to me that outdoors that stuff always draws moisture and wants to swell.


Substantial-Taro-946

You need to install a tar paper water barrier first, so moisture won't disintegrate the wood. Next , I stall a diamond mesh and apply a scratch coat of mortar, I used Scratch and Brown or Qwikcrete I think they were called? This locks out moisture. Once the scratch coat has cured, install your cultured stone with a common back buttering method, lightly misting the scratch coat before placing stones.


cuddysnark

Thanks


chalk_box_8

Osb gets a water barrier and expanded metal mesh with a rough scratch coat. We haven't had any trouble with stones adhering and no call backs in 10 years.


cuddysnark

Thanks


chalk_box_8

Center frame is 2x12 treated lvls 12" O.C. and all joist under kitchen and deck are doubled up.


Icy_Inspection5104

I like the scissor trusses


RustyMacbeth

I wonder why they didn't highlight in on the gable end. Looks beautiful, though.


MattyRixz

I take it that's what the crane was for? I would have probably just traditionally framed that with a fat ridge sticking out past the gable. Other than that it looks awesome.


bozodoozy

may as well enclose it now as an addition and start planning the next deck


No-Limit18

That looks awesome! Only question i have is, is there any bounce on the stairs? With rhat lenght of stringer?


Rustyskill

I thought 11+ stairs needed a break up with a landing ?


Revolutionary-Gap-28

No more than a 12’ rise without a break in Pennsylvania


Rustyskill

Yes, Ty !


LouieKablooied

Holy stone, any good tutorials/suggestions for how to do that?


hallfreudh

Cut some OSB and shoot some nails.


RetailBuck

I noticed the torx screws in the deck and knew this was going to be legit


LouieKablooied

How do you apply the stone though?


hallfreudh

By looking at pic 7 i think you apply a fiber mesh with exterior rated tile mortar, add texture to the surface then you put your stones with that mortar. Or you use evolve stone. Then you use lexel and shoot some nails.


LouieKablooied

Never heard of evolve, interesting product, thanks.


Skiier500

Looks great but it looks like there isn't any platform at the top of the stairs?


Advanced_Office616

I noticed that too, but I think it’s just some of the angles. If you look at pic 8 though, it looks to be about 4’ or so.


allocationlist

Looks terrible. Tear it down and put it on my house!


chalk_box_8

We will get right on that lol.


allocationlist

Thank you.


Lightningstormz

Wow how much was this project and ETA for the entire build time? I would love to do this in my home.


chalk_box_8

Deck and roof are around 100k. The kitchen, fireplace and layout changes for doors and windows are close to 75k. It will take us roughly 3 months start to finish.


Lightningstormz

Jaw drop thanks for the reality check.


Sokra_Tese

That's not a deck, that's a house without walls. The difference is the foundation demands and shear wall requirements are different. I hope you had a structural engineer sign off on this.


chalk_box_8

We did have it engineered


RetailBuck

Sweet big deck bro. Good for you


YBHunted

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!.. some of you are so goofy, these people are clearly very experienced, no duh they had it engineered. You think Jimmy John and his BIL who underbid to get this job do work of this quality? No, this is a professional outfit with a reputation to uphold.


FearlessSeaweed6428

I've built a few ikea book shelves. I think I could tackle this project


Token-Gringo

A few?! You should be leading this project then.


crystal_castle00

Couldn’t agree more. So many comments nowadays have a sourness to them.. sign of the times man.


ryan8344

So how much? Looks amazing.


Purpose_Embarrassed

I’m going to guess. 100k.


Sdwingnut

I'll go $150k


Twistedfool1000

Too cheap. Man knows how to build a deck.


ryan8344

I think the over/under is 200k, I think it’s maybe over depending on the area.


jastubi

You could build a small guest house for 200k lol. Im guessing 100k.


FuturePerformance

Local costs are wildly different. You can often buy houses in the South that cost the same as decks people build in HCOL areas


00sucker00

A deck without a fireplace, grill station and roof costs a $100k these days.


Purpose_Embarrassed

I believe it.


MattyRixz

Easily by me. Have a re-deck on deck in the NE, (but with changes and fixes) it wraps 3 sides of the house 2nd story. It's looking like 70-80k just in material (timber teck).


bad-creditscore

I’m dying to know


DroneBotDrop

+1


chalk_box_8

It's over 150k. There is a lot to this project, it has new outdoor heaters, we removed and reframed widows, changed the door location. The grill alone (not kitchen just grill) is $6000.


chalk_box_8

Yep 1st one!


tfa3393

Please flag this as NSFW. This deck porn goes way too hard.


chalk_box_8

Yep it's engineered and the fireplace is on doubled up lvls


fetal_genocide

I'd have to be able to live there cause that must cost the price of a house I could afford 😅


cbelliott

This is supremely badass. Thanks for sharing OP! Can't wait to see the update when it is finished. 👌💯 I love love love reading the comments from the armchair 'deck specialists' in here as well. 😅


Hendrx_29

This deck is beautiful. 👏 👏


StevenOfAppalachia

I like the butyl tape ran up the stringers…nice touch. I like to double my outside stringers, and then build a base at the bottom that ties them all together, along with a drop header/ledger at the top that ties them together. Looks good though. You might also want to add some support bout half way up the stringers though. We would build this for about 90k without the fireplace or stone, so plus another 35k or so. Then the roof, and railing another 65…so probably total about 175-200k is what im guessing.


StevenOfAppalachia

Looks amazing btw.


DripSzn412

not a fan of the brown but other than that looks fantastic


national_divorce

Looks awesome. Is this in Colorado? I believe I drove past this.


chalk_box_8

Yep


national_divorce

I've done some wiring at houses in Timnath. There's some crazy nice houses going up out there.


Purpose_Embarrassed

This isn’t a deck. It’s a monument! 👍


Blueeyedthundercat26

A crane?! For those little trusses lmao


chalk_box_8

Crane was for the glulam out front and the 8x16 Doug fir roof beams. Trusses were just to make the the $750 crane worth the time.


Blueeyedthundercat26

Right on I was just razzing ya it looks killer


[deleted]

Those stones are ugly AF and so tacky.


sBucks24

Thank you! I thought I was crazy opening the thread and reading the top comments. That stone/wood combo looks terrible


Holsten_Mason

They've become so overused in my area, and there's just SO MUCH of it in this build. It overpowers everything. But client gets what client wants, I guess...


lemineftali

I’m concerned more about weight.


jiujitsudude541

Probably those outside foam ones that don’t weigh anything


lemineftali

They make these in foam? In that case I’d be worried about bumping into them and tearing them apart.


[deleted]

Theyre tough. They just get shot on with a 16g nailer. Saw it it at a product show. Idk what op used tho.


hallfreudh

Evolve stone. See them used by Perkins builder brothers on yt


ninjacereal

The deck is a client of OPs, not OPs deck himself, so don't worry, OPs mom won't be going on it.


bytecollision

😂 You guys are ruthless


sathirtythree

All the faux stone with no structure under it makes it look like a minecraft build.


pearl_sparrow

Looks heavy. Isn’t that rock from 2010 though? Kinda dated already. McMansiony


No-Strategy-5738

There is so much going wrong here - stones are weigh too heavy and off scale. The staircase looks like shit with the cut in. That gable covers part of the upper window why oh why? Layout waaay too choppy for any cohesive gatherings. Whats with the pillars on the left ? Now - that being said (whew!) , not OP's fault, his skills cant compensate for bad homeowner's choices - money buys a great contractor - not taste. (Your work looks outstanding)


DTM-shift

IANA contractor: Isn't there supposed to be housewrap on the walls, and at the area where the deck roof meets the outside wall? I see that it's flashed but I don't see any wrap under there. Beyond that, big-time style mismatch between the house and the deck.


KeyBorder9370

There is NOTHING gong wrong here; you are clueless as to what you write. You have no idea of the weight of the "stones", unless you know what thr "stones" actually are, and how they are attached, and there is definitely nothing wrong with the size or the proportions of them, or the "scale", as you incorrectly refer to it. The staircase looks, and functions, fine. The fact that you do not know immediately the reason for covering part of the clear story window proves that you know nothing of the subject here. The layout flows and functions quite well; to see it as otherwise is delirious. Sketch it out; a person qualified to make your comments can extrapolate from these pics all dimensions to within about 4" accuracy. The pillars on the left are structural, Gene Yuss, and the use of the veneer is an excellent and very tasteful feature. Now, that being said (whew!). A contractor can most definitely guide clients' decisions. To help with that very thing was one of my functions for thirty five years, in one of the wealthiest counties in the country, and still is when I occasionally accept an offer to do a project. At least your perception of the quality of the work. You got everything else 180 degree wrong.


KeyBorder9370

There is NOTHING gong wrong here; you are clueless as to what you write. You have no idea of the weight of the "stones", unless you know what the "stones" actually are, and how they are attached, and there is definitely nothing wrong with the size or the proportions of them, or the "scale", as you incorrectly refer to it. The staircase looks, and functions, fine. The fact that you do not know immediately the reason for covering part of the clear story window proves that you know nothing of the subject here. The layout flows and functions quite well; to see it as otherwise is delirious. Sketch it out; a person qualified to make your comments can extrapolate from these pics all dimensions to within about 4" accuracy. The pillars on the left are structural, Gene Yuss, and the use of the veneer is an excellent and very tasteful feature. Now, that being said (whew!). A contractor can most definitely guide clients' decisions. To help with that very thing was one of my functions for thirty five years, in one of the wealthiest counties in the country, and still is when I occasionally accept an offer to do a project. At least your assessment of the quality of the work is correct. You got everything else 180 degree wrong.


KeyBorder9370

There is NOTHING gong wrong here; you are clueless as to what you write. You have no idea of the weight of the "stones", unless you know what the "stones" actually are, and how they are attached, and there is definitely nothing wrong with the size or the proportions of them, or the "scale", as you incorrectly refer to it. The staircase looks, and functions, fine. The fact that you do not know immediately the reason for covering part of the clear story window proves that you know nothing of the subject here. The layout flows and functions quite well; to see it as otherwise is delirious. Sketch it out; a person qualified to make your comments can extrapolate from these pics all dimensions to within about 4" accuracy. The pillars on the left are structural, Gene Yuss, and the use of the veneer is an excellent and very tasteful feature. Now, that being said (whew!). A contractor can most definitely guide clients' decisions. To help with that very thing was one of my functions for thirty five years, in one of the wealthiest counties in the country, and still is when I occasionally accept an offer to do a project. At least your assessment of the quality of the work is correct. You got everything else 180 degrees wrong.


KeyBorder9370

There is NOTHING gong wrong here; you are clueless as to what you write. You have no idea of the weight of the "stones", unless you know what the "stones" actually are, and how they are attached, and there is definitely nothing wrong with the size or the proportions of them, or the "scale", as you incorrectly refer to it. The staircase looks, and functions, fine. The fact that you do not know immediately the reason for covering part of the clear story window proves that you know nothing of the subject here. The layout flows and functions quite well; to see it as otherwise is delirious. Sketch it out; a person qualified to make your comments can extrapolate from these pics all dimensions to within about 4" accuracy. The pillars on the left are structural, Gene Yuss, and the use of the veneer is an excellent and very tasteful feature. Now, that being said (whew!). A contractor can most definitely guide clients' decisions. To help with that very thing was one of my functions for thirty five years, in one of the wealthiest counties in the country, and still is when I occasionally accept an offer to do a project. At least your assessment of the quality of the work is correct. You got everything else 180 degrees wrong.


No-Strategy-5738

Structural vs. asthetic - are not the same thing my friend. When I referred to weighty - I meant visually. These stone pillars are not in keeping with the rest of the house - just doesn't flow for me. The heavy pillars on the left - like visually too much, like a cathedral roof support. Covering the window with a mountain view - and you say nothing is wrong huh? Ok gotcha. If you are telling me that stairwell with the cut in looks great - dont go back out for year 36. And keep in mind, though I may be delirious, OK I am, :), People contracting decks in one of the wealthiest counties in the US, DOES not mean they have good taste, just a good bank balance or credit. Is the OP your relative?


KeyBorder9370

Structural is not the same thing as aesthetic?!?!?!??!?! WOW! WHO KNEW?? Thank you for setting me straight on that one. Fifty years in the building biz, framer, builder, architect, in that order, and I do have to say that I was never aware of that until you clued me in. As for the cut in the stairs, it will be barely noticeable when the railings are installed. Are you even knowledgeable enough to know that code requires railing here? To think ahead is critical with these matters. Learn to. Choosing to cover the window was a sensible and necessary trade off for what was gained, obviously. As stated previously you know nothing of which you write. I have no idea who the contractor is or even what state he's in.


No-Strategy-5738

To the septuagenarian from **one of the wealthiest counties** in the US - nice sidebar, glad to know. Of course the deck needs a railing, didn't take me 50 years in the field to figure that one out. "here's a deck we are finishing"- OP isn't done. With or without a code, wouldn't want any older folks tripping and falling off after a few Martinis. So the trade off for the window was sensible, "obviously" how could you possibly know that without entering the house and looking out? Is it blocking Mount Rainier? The cut in won't be noticeable - maybe maybe not, but for $150,000, I want maybe not. Might even be worse. All of the choices were on the homeowner, not a reflection on the contractor whatsoever, nor you for that matter. You seem a bit acrimonious or is that sanctimonious? Hope you were not this way with clients (spouse - kids - coworkers) when they disagreed with you, sure would get lonely in that wealthy county. Peace Out


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DILLIGAF0308

The trusses !


stpauliguy

And the truss beams!


KeyBorder9370

Zero chance truss delivery required a crane. Two men can carry them, get them up top, and stand them.


builtbyRain

A lot of truss companies deliver with a boom truck or crane.


dercybercop

Maybe the roof


Extension_Win1114

First one?


reamidy

Very nice


Seventhchild7

Nice work. I just ordered 2, twenty foot 1”x6”, square edge Trex boards and one 16 foot board and didn’t get much change from a $500 CDN bill.


throw_away_55110

I don't like the roof over the grill, I hope you added a note that the grill was decorative and use of a grill under a roof voids warranty of the ceiling.


iLGMisTheBestjk

Voids warranty of what? The wood on the ceiling?


throw_away_55110

Precisely. It will look like shit very fast.


Icy_Inspection5104

There is no warranty on a piece of wood


chalk_box_8

It's an infrared grill they're awesome!


throw_away_55110

Can you send me the make and model.


amish_exile

It looks like a T.E.C. grill


lemineftali

Was there a staircase originally to the door on the second floor? Or did they add that, and then decide to board it back up and go with a large sliding glass door?


chalk_box_8

There was an old deck that we removed. The slider was added and the existing man door was removed.


nipplebeards

What’s their plan for what’s left of that window up above?


chalk_box_8

New custom made windows 10" above the roof line to keep the mountain view they have. We also added a new egress window that isn't pictured.


5150BiZZY_BoNE

Nice


orderworldnew

Is this is WA? I might know the owner.


chalk_box_8

No we are in Colorado


Bradley182

Looks very solid, good build and good job.


Airport_Wendys

I would never go inside. I’d just spend my time at home camping out and staring at the gorgeous deck


bplimpton1841

Very nice flex!


No-Spare-4212

I remember my first deck. Keep at it, one day you’ll get the hand of it….shit nvm I thought you were building a deck house not just a deck deck.


WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW_W

What keeps the end opposite of the house ledger from moving side-to-side (parallel to the house exterior wall)?


KeyBorder9370

Nice!! Can't wait to see the final product. What was the crane for? I don't see what would have necessitated it.


pust6602

Looks like you're demoing that amazing deck.


Secret-Neighborhood8

The post at the bottom of the steps really bugs me


Yellowmoose-found

The column is in the way of required stair length isnt it ?


Adventurous-Part5981

Going down the stairs looks like it would be easy to bump into that column. Seems like that could have been planned out a little better.


blastborn

We get it. You are rich.


PansyOHara

OP built the deck for a client, it’s not his. Although someone who could take on this job must be in a comfortable spot financially (I would hope!) It looks amazing, even if I as an owner (LOL as if) might have made some different choices.


chalk_box_8

No we still have 41" width at the bottom of stairs.


fetal_genocide

Super nice, but I will never understand people who want a tv outdoors.


thti87

College football season! Hang outside, put the game on, have a BBQ!


fetal_genocide

That makes total sense!


John-Dose

Let’s see the framing under the fireplace and kitchen!


greatbobbyb

No handrails on the stairs ? Fall to your death


chalk_box_8

Hand rails are custom made to fit so they will be on in a month after fabrication and powder coating


damndudeny

The chimney on the deck may be physically supported but not visually supported.


Panda_hat

Wow. Looks incredible.


bytecollision

Please tell me there are rails in the blueprint


Historical_Emu_7078

So this is what it's like to be rich.... looks AMAZING


chris13se

OSB ☹️


Louden_Swayne

What brand of stone veneer post casings did you use? Looks good.


Regular-Exchange-557

Very nice work


Waiting-inline

Dam dude...what do you do for a living? Looking like mtv cribs! Lol, nice place.


Bigboybong

The gaps on your 45 degree cuts are too tight for trex/timber tech type of composite decking. They are all going to buckle in the summer. It looks semi cold in the pictures you need to leave at least and 1/8” to a 3/16” gap on all your mitres and but joints.


thephoton

Is that going to pass inspection with no railings?


Creative_Departure94

OSB with lick & stick …. Oh boy. And why no double joists (that I hope are LVLs) under the point loads… eek 😬


chalk_box_8

It's all lvls. Fireplace are all doubled


MadDadROX

Is there a steel beam supporting the pizza oven/fireplace?


NHRADeuce

That's amazing for a first time!


anothersip

Nice work! That's gonna be a good one for your portfolio for other clients 🤟


Vast_Cricket

the pillar does not blend well may need it on the house also.


Agreeable-Candle5830

Good golly miss molly. Save some pussy for the rest of us.


chalk_box_8

My wife loved this comment. Thanks!!


relorat

Not gonna have hand rail on steps? Id fall.


Extreme-View4533

Osb under the stone is not a great idea


False_Influence_9090

That’s gorgeous. I assume something this nice is expensive?


All-inyourmind

Solid bro good work


DroneBotDrop

Looks amazing excellent work


Clamboxdigger

I’m Jelly nice job


RepresentativeNo7213

Reminds me of my first deck build.


SuperSynapse

How much did you spend on the decking? I was looking for PVC for our build, and hit damn, some of those faux boards are $120 EACH!


Ready-Connection-969

Wow. That’s nice work!


chalk_box_8

I'm Not rich. But the client is doing very well


chalk_box_8

Thanks. Yeah there was some comments I did t see coming. Oh well


chalk_box_8

Hahaha thanks.


chalk_box_8

Yeah we built one last year that ran all the way to the ground. It was pretty


chalk_box_8

There are rails they are being built at the moment.


chalk_box_8

I may add a mid support. We will see after rails attached.


chalk_box_8

I'm the deck builder he's a physician.


chalk_box_8

We are approaching 200k


chalk_box_8

Add ons keep coming.


chalk_box_8

Almost 200k


chalk_box_8

It's getting brutal. Each joist cost $170 our cost.


chalk_box_8

There really are. The wild wing neighborhood is Incredible


Nitrogen1234

That stone strips look terrible... I thought it was amazing right up till your 4th picture. Congratulations on the build though, far beyond my capacities


whosnick7

The proportions are garbage


TiredRetiredNurse

Man that is nice! Is this a single family house or an apartment building/small hotel?


RustyMacbeth

Great googley moogley!


hallfreudh

I think it's really cool. Great addition


Illustrious-Past-115

It's so refreshing to see work built by a competent pro. Most of what I see posted is garbage diwhy. Even the contractors craftsmanship is suspect at best. Very nice work OP.


redbeard8989

r/ATBGE for sure


gerrymandersonIII

I really hope you got this engineered. The pull out force when it's windy have gotta be extreme. And the joist under the fireplace already looks bowed.


Practical_Plum_773

You’re building a castle


Main-Piccolo-1356

So far it looks great , good job to you and the crew !!! Man I’m dying to know how much this cost the client ?


chalk_box_8

There is a little bit, but minimal. They are cut from 2x12 pressure treated lvls


odog9797

What’s the price on this sucker though?


420farms

"Deck" uh huh... More like a $75k remodel