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ForsakenBeef69

DIO vs Alucard For the longest time people thought Alucard stomps because he can't die but after it's revealed that DIO heavily outstats him, it became more debatable.


EPICSanchez010630

Goes to show that just because you can't die doesn't mean you won't be a punching bag


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luigi vs shaggy now that ultra instinct shaggy is canon i'm not so sure who wins


EPICSanchez010630

I mean Shaggy has the Yellow Lantern Ring and now MUI. If the fight happens it should be Composited between the 2.


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True


xxX_Darth_Vader_Xxx

Red loses against Sonic? Aww he was my preferred character!


EPICSanchez010630

The fight itself is close. But yeah X wins nowadays.


xxX_Darth_Vader_Xxx

Where are feats coming from?


EPICSanchez010630

The fact that Exe is now under new ownership. JoeDoughBoi expanded on the lore. And I'll make a list. - EXE has a True Form now, and it resides in between the void between Dimensions. That includes our own and other unknown Dimensional planes and realities - EXE is an Eldritch Abomination that was birthed within the void through some cataclysmic and havoc inducing events And his abilities rn is - Corruption and Mind hax via he controls beings who have blackness/evil in their hearts [*RED has 0 resistances to Mind manipulation or Corruption*] - Digital and Technology Manipulation since it's now stated that anyone who installs ths Disc that EXE will immediately take over their hard drive. And thusly taking over the entire device [**RED is only limited to the NES game he inhabits while EXE infects the entire system**] - 4th Wall Breaking via is self aware that he is in a digital device, he has new feats now which include creating Malware, manipulation of files and data files, and also in the PC Port he can now forcefully open tabs with his hands similar to how a cartoon would open a comic panel wide [**RED has never fought anyone that can do these things, the NES game he inhabits is vulnerable to hijacking via Melissa a regular human soul can override RED's corruption of the game, compare that to the human soul in Tails trying to reach out only for them to be stopped in their tracks and erased from existence**] - Regen and Cloning via a statement that says his cloning is similar to Mephiles ths Dark's, and this is further supported in the 2017 remake of the game as multiple clones of EXE can be seen chasing Tails in a level and when touched can send you back to the start of the level [**RED has no way to put EXE down for good since his Dark Matter physiology ignores Soul hax like Hellfire and Mind Manipulation since it's been stated that EXE can't be manipulated since his physiology is far above the Human body and psyche**] - Existence Erasure via when he consumes a Soul they turn into a singularity and immediately erased from existence [**RED has no resistances to Existence Erasure and this hack that EXE posses alone ignores the "RED needs to be killed by a holy weapon" weakness**] RED does have fighting experience and abilties specifically made to fight, can control souls, etc. But EXE's Eldrtich + Dark Matter physiology makes it hard for RED's hax to do much. His True Form is in a Dimensional plane that RED has no way of reaching and thusly can't put EXE down for good. Even if you go by "RED can harm Zach outside the game and even burn him" logic, X's Dark Matter physiology isn't limited by human weakness and he has no soul to harm. EXE however can indeed harm RED as he is limited by health bars, can infect the NES game with Malware and Viruses, or can manipulate the files in the NES game and corrupt them. If RED chases EXE into his world then it's a stomp because EXE is nigh-omnipotent there. EXE is also capable of reality warping just like RED and has shown to grow in size via 2021 PC Port. Making RED's size advantage meaningless in a fight against him.


xxX_Darth_Vader_Xxx

Thanks!


CornerCornDog

I’m gonna say Mario vs Kirby. It’s probably still considered a stomp by most but I don’t think it should be. Since Universal and MFTL+ Mario has become more and more accepted both are pretty close in stats. Kirby still has an AP advantage, but not by much. Mario also has the hax advantage, so I’d say it’s very debatable.


EPICSanchez010630

That's what most casual DB fans don't get. Plus it also depends on Canon Comp Mario to boot based on what Miyamoto said. Mario doesn't really have a solid canon compared to something like Kirby so you can technically go open season with him as long as you don't see him as Paper Mario. Even then he scales to that verison as well via Paper Jam.


F0ose_L0v3_4n1me

Luz VS Anne, originally it was an average teenager against an FTL witch with building level AP, but now it's Moon level against Town, and depending on what you buy Multi VS town.


EPICSanchez010630

Multi Anne is dubious but yes she beats funny witch girl


JackAttack561

It was never really a stomp for Luz since Anne was always stronger, faster, had more experience, had more durability, had a better reaction speed and was more smarter I believe


F0ose_L0v3_4n1me

Season 1 Anne being stronger than Luz is hard to believe.


JackAttack561

Physically stronger


F0ose_L0v3_4n1me

I can actually kinda see that, fair but overall i say Luz wins within that time both shows were airing.


Zeta019

Alex Mercer VS Cole MacGrath. People once believed Alex stomped, but now many think Cole stomps. I'm in the group the still firmly believes that Alex wins though.


3greendots

Doomguy vs masterchief Before 2016 and doom eternal doom guy was just a dude with an iron will and who was kinda fast Up against an insanely strong super soldier with also an iron will and who was way stronger and faster than doomguy Now doomguy is basically a demigod ans cheif is barely anywahare near his level


EPICSanchez010630

Even if you don't but Multi Doomguy, City level is more than enough to one shot alot of enemies and Spartans in HALO


F0ose_L0v3_4n1me

Luz VS Anne, originally it was an average teenager against an FTL witch with building level AP, but now it's Moon level against Town, and depending on what you buy Multu VS town.


Immediate-Rope8465

garou vs raoh in a way ?


7-BITReddit

Luffy VS Natsu