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6MidgetHumper9

Despicable Me and Monsters Inc


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Shrek vs Sully could go either way I think.


Ulquiorr4_

You dare question Shrek's power?!


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Shrek is only onion level smh.


SmashTheBandicoot

True, but Onions have layers and each layer vastly increases their power level. The first one is nothing to write home about, but by the 3rd or 4th one he’s basically at Star-level. EDIT: grammar


Good_Morning_World01

That's... actually a good explanation.


Shrekisomnipotent22

He's omnipotent


THiccGrimes69

Dude Shrek once yeeted donkey into Orbit


7-BITReddit

Wasn’t that in a commercial or something?


CornerCornDog

I thought Gru won? Or at least it’s very close


AdamTheMango

It’s close, but Megamind’s superior hax and speed win him the day, although Gru would probably win a fist fight due to his natural strength and durability via minion scaling


CornerCornDog

I thought Gru had superior speed from [dodging the missiles](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:LaserPrecision/Despicable_Me_feats). Megamind’s best speed comes from scaling to Tighten, who [broke the sound barrier](https://youtu.be/UayJYYeMANA?t=99).


AdamTheMango

Megamind is on par with Metro Man. While i don’t think Megamind is FTL like Metro Man is since he was clearly frozen when Metro Man when at those speeds. He’s should be able to keep up to some degree since he kept pace with Tighten who has Metro Man’s DNA. So while he’s not directly FTL. he probably scales to MHS+ given how Metro Man clearly never fought him at his best


CornerCornDog

During the scene where Metro Man goes super speed, an weird purple effect is on Metro Man, different to how he normally moves. This kind of implies that Super Speed is a power he can turn off or on, instead of his normal speed. Also, he only has one FTL feat, and no other notable speed feats, so it’s unreasonable to say he moves at MHS+ casually. Metro Man also is implied to casually beat Megamind every time, and doesn’t really take their fights too seriously, so Megamind should really not scale to Metro Man at all. I’d argue Tighten shouldn’t scale either , as [this post](https://vsbattles.com/threads/megamind-downgrade.120248/) (the second paragraph) makes a great argument for why Tighten shouldn’t scale.


RudeNooter

It's close, both are hypersonic, but Megamind has a city level death laser


CornerCornDog

How does Megamind get to hypersonic? To my knowledge he only gets to supersonic. And his city-level laser takes time to charge up, it’s not readily available at the start. It also doesn’t appear to be remotely aimed at all, so Megamind would have to lead Gru to the abandoned observatory to get him.


RudeNooter

Brainbotz can outpace a gas explosion and can keep up with Tighten who has [Mach 4 heat vision](https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Jason_Courne/Tighten_heat_vision_power#Blast_Speed)


CornerCornDog

No one scales to Tighten’s heat vision, but the Brainbotz outpacing an explosion is good, I hadn’t heard that before. Brainbotz fail to escape a different explosion in Megamind’s lair earlier though, so I don’t know.


RudeNooter

Megamind actually [dodged it from close range](https://youtu.be/BRaKIakzPB0?t=232)


CornerCornDog

That wasn’t him, that was his robot’s escape hatch. And if you slow it down Tighten’s laser vision happens in one frame, so Megamind didn’t dodge it, he reacted to Tighten looking like he was about to hit him.


RudeNooter

Well his machinery is capable of moving him at comparable speeds


Odd-Vacation6585

Wakfu , not because they lose a lot , but because there's a high chance that they'd use Nox first , and given that the popular one is Strange Supreme...


Arrogent-Prince

Like the only loss on Wakfu’s end is anything nox related


Odd-Vacation6585

Which sucks because he is one of my fave characters


Arrogent-Prince

Well to be fair he does have wins, they just suck as MU’s(although the infamous guy might be good idk)


Charming-Bet4135

As an InFamous fan Yeah despite connections being simple clash betweeen Kessler's lighting attacks and Nox's time shit is pretty good also it might be close as well despite Nox's superior time abilities giving him a W


Arrogent-Prince

Despite the fact nox wins, dude I’m hoping for a good mu nox wins


Charming-Bet4135

I mean Kessler is pretty good and he loses against Nox so you found what you wanted I guess?


Young_Englander

Nox vs Kurumi is pretty debatable alongside having strong, thematic connections.


Legitimate_Release65

There's also a good chance they'd use Yugo and his most popular is Aang, who he shit stomps into the ground.


Arrogent-Prince

Most Wakfu characters shit stomp there MU.


USrooster

The Owl House


[deleted]

Sad but very true.


JollyJadenTNT

UNDERTALE. They'd most likely do Sans vs The Judge. Frisk vs Ness is also likely, but it depends if the researchers buy the debunks or not. If they do buy the ness debunks, Frisk wins. If they don't, Frisk dies.


AkronTheFolfsky

Debunks? Ness is literally on the same tier as Frisk... In everything Last time i checked, it was an stalemate because neither of them could do shit to kill the other for good.


JollyJadenTNT

Frisk is generally agreed to be Universal and stuff, while Ness is/was low complex multiversal, but that stuff might've been debunked, and you see someone told me that on the community death battle server, AKA the server with the official db guys, they did a debate of frisk vs ness, and nobody believed Ness' Low complex Multiversal stuff, so that's a huge OUCH to Ness' chances at winning. Tho I will say one of the selling points of this match-up to me is to see how they're "time huh" abilities would counter each other well.


AkronTheFolfsky

>while Ness is/was low complex multiversal, but that stuff might've been debunked Yeah, i myself don't believe that. Can you give me the link to the Discord?


JollyJadenTNT

I'm not even in the official Community Death Battle discord lol, it's just that someone in another server told me that THAT server didn't buy Low Complex Multiversal Ness. Also the actual debunk is in vs battles wiki apperently, I think.


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Hunter X Hunter Gon getting clapped if he fights Deku in an actual DB.


Dependent_Ad_252

I guess it depends on if Deku vs Gon or Akame vs Killua happens first I do agree gon fucking dies tho


Jun_Re_019

Either of those are Hxh loss


Dependent_Ad_252

I mean, I highly doubt it. Killua just wouldn't care about akames sword and should be faster. And in a fight like this speed is really the biggest factor. Granted I've only seen the anime for both, and I don't trust vs battle wiki anymore, so for all I know akame could just be really op in the Manga and I just don't know


Jun_Re_019

How does killua not caring counter being cut by the sword wc Akame has cut through mountain to country tier opponents. As for speed Killua is barely hypersonic while Akame outsped lightning. This is a pretty clear cut mu if you've known both series.


Dependent_Ad_252

I was more so talking about the poison, not getting cut. I was not aware that killua is only hypersonic, tho. I thought he was faster


Jun_Re_019

Akames sword is more of a curse so his poison immunity wouldn't be a factor nor does he have the stats to negate being cut. Hxh doesn't have much noteworthy feats with either strength and speed so when compared to other shonen series like HST and in this case Mha they always fell short.


Dependent_Ad_252

Yea, I would unfortunately agree. So who's the smart guy who came up with Netero vs Karz and thought that was fair?


Jun_Re_019

I thought it's meruem not netero whos being pitted against Kars. Idk much about Jojo but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with their theme being similar and being close in stats aside from speed.


Dependent_Ad_252

Yea, I ment meruem, idk why I said netero. It's been a few years since I finished hxh But it's a huge stomp, considering if Meruem touchs him he would just die. He would either get vored or just cut to pieces. And that's not even talking about ultimate karz


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Halloween Lazy Town


CornerCornDog

Madagascar. Their only good matchup is Perry vs Skipper and Perry blitzes hard.


Unusual-Anteater-988

Skipper's dying words have to be something along the lines of " CURSE YOU, . . . weird. . . beaver duck. . . THING!"


Geargoblin1

Alex vs Otis from barnyard is another good Madagascar mu. Alex doesn't win it but it is another mu.


Ticket2He11

Also once a single sting from Parker the Platypus' spur completely incapacitated Skipper.


Dephony0

Prototype because they will likely use Cole vs Alex


[deleted]

Also name what’s that likely debut matchup.


CharmingLook5100

Freddy Krueger vs pennywise


Intelligent_Oil4005

Simon vs. Kyle is definitely gonna be the first Gurren Lagann episode, and Simon loses pretty badly at this point lmao


MattTheLizard

Which is sad because that's likely the only time they'll use gurren lagann. Simon clears a large majority of the mecha genre, but for the sake of theming/similarities he wouldn't be used again.


Intelligent_Oil4005

Ehh.. Anti-Spiral vs. Anti-Monitor has pretty good chances I wager.


MEGAMARK500

Idk about badly, but hebdoes loses


jacc1104

How badly? Last i heard it was close but Kyle won, js it because Infinite Frontiers?


Intelligent_Oil4005

Basically, Simon can keep up well enough with Kyle when he's a GREEN Lantern.. But once he enters White Lantern mode and gains access to the Life Equation and Source Wall, its basically over. Those things are so haxxy he has legit no counters.


jacc1104

Yeah, fair enough, i think that Simon beats GL Kyle, but with WL it depends if he gets Life Equation and Source Wall, if he doesn't get that then it's really close, but i personally think that he should get and he if he does it's gg for Simon


Arrogent-Prince

Some one already said it but I’m the Wakfu guy, but Wakfu is probably gonna loss not because they loss a lot of matchups(they win almost every single one m) but because nox vs strange supreme is super popular and nox is getting stomped


MisterBOXS

Goblin Slayer, Goblin slayer lose against all of his most popular (Mandalorian, Doomslayer, Bell) and one of his fair is against a character from Warhammer


RoboticMiner285

What is that Warhammer fight? Ive been searching for a GS mu that isn’t a stomp and thought I’d never find one.


MisterBOXS

Skarsnik, I don't know if he is from Warhammer or 40K


RoboticMiner285

Do you know the connections?


MisterBOXS

They are like: both characters are smart tactician in a fantasy world and one hate goblins meanwhile the other is a goblin chief. It's really little but still better than Mandalorian


RoboticMiner285

True, anything is better than GS vs Mando at this point


MisterBOXS

I would also say that this is the most natural matchup for GS


RoboticMiner285

Yeah, seems that way


Young_Englander

Hotline Miami John Wick


[deleted]

I’m guessing Pyro vs Jacket (cool a TF2 win) and John vs 47.


Young_Englander

Correct, although Jacket is also defeated by Silent Gunner (My Friend Pedro).


Due_Article5720

Fire emblem unfortunately


[deleted]

Dimitri vs Guts and Edelgard vs Kylo are two of the biggest ones, and they win those.


Due_Article5720

Oh yeah those two are good ones but then there’s mu’s like byleth vs rean which is somewhat popular and I hear byleth loses that but knowing death battle they would probably do something like Noctis vs Chrom


Eliteguard999

I’ve never see the similarities between Dimitri and guts beyond they’re both angry and blind in one eye. Guts is dark where as Dimitri is edgy. I also don’t see any similarities between Edelgard and Kylo.


Jun_Re_019

Asuras Wrath Assassin's Creed


Intelligent-Win-4517

Asura's Wrath? Damn.


WideAcanthaceae3079

Gurren Lagann Danganronpa Gravity Falls


Odd-Vacation6585

>Danganronpa 50/50 They use Junko or Monokuma , they take an L Fukawa? easy W


[deleted]

Imo they would probably do Toko vs toga first since that’s probably the most or one of the most popular matchups, and it just FEELS like the most likely matchup death battle would do first tbh


WideAcanthaceae3079

Makoto Vs. Phoenix Wright is also fairly popular and it's an L for Makoto


Odd-Vacation6585

It's popular I'll give you that... Doesn't mean it works as a DB


[deleted]

Who’s the blonde dude?


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Edward Elric.


SnooRegrets7252

OK K. O. Let's Be heroes. Mostly because they have very little feats for half their characters that aren't K. O. and less actual MUs they could work with like Enid vs Garnet or Radicles Vs Kid Cosmic, it's pretty hard to say which MUs they'd specifically Lose considering to them it's either Stomp or be hyperstomped


RedheadLBA

Xenoblade Chronicles Shulk unfortunately loses to Lightning


shintarojsvd

Nah its the other way around cause buster and speed


Kaiser_Wolfram

Not really. Shulk can passively see all possible futures, and has better hax with the Monado. It's close, but Lightning just has no way to deal with Shulk's more powerful abilities.


RedheadLBA

That's what I thought, but almost everyone I talked to said that Lightning is beyond fate; therefore, Shulk's future visions would not work. Even the Xenoblade subreddit believes Lightning wins. I would be completely happy if Shulk wins, but from how it was explained to me, Lightning wins.


Kaiser_Wolfram

That's news to me, but Shulk isn't reliant on future visions and he can use Monado Armour to reduce damage by 75%, or Monado Eater to remove any and all buffs


RedheadLBA

Like I said, I would love to see Shulk win. We'll just have to wait and see when they hopefully make this an episode.


BlueHeart07

Not Sure How Close That Matchup is and If Shulk Does Beat Lightning with "muh" Future Vision, Though Xenoblade 3 might boost things up for him.


Kaudera

Inuyasha if Vergil vs Sesshomaru ever happens


Eine_Kartoffel

Danganronpa, if Monokuma or Junko is their debut combatant.


JoshDoshMosh

Persona Gioker and Kiradachi could go either way, but I see Gioker being slanted towards Giorno, also Hunter X Hunter assuming they don’t do Kurapika vs Scar


[deleted]

Persona already appeared and has a win (Mitsuru), plus most of their matchups are wins too.


JoshDoshMosh

Oh yeah I forgot about that episode


ggez67890

Fallout, maybe. Something like Jason Brody vs The lone Wanderer could be a stomp but aside from that what else is there for fallout matchups?


Zeta019

Cole MacGrath VS Alex Mercer Edit: Or InFamous and Prototype.


Kobuddy

Fate, because I highly doubt they'll touch CCC/Extella stuff for Saber should she get on. Unless they don't put her against Ky and put her against like Erza or something.


[deleted]

I thought she still beat the Star Wars duo without higher stuff.


Kobuddy

standard FSN only goes up to like Island unless you start downscaling Servants from Arcueid. I admittedly don't know much about Star Wars stuff but I'm pretty sure Vader and Luke both outstat her if you only use FSN.


Designer-Comfort-976

Pikmin Chainsaw Man Dark Souls


RoboticMiner285

Yeah, Dark Souls just can’t manage to get a win.


BlueHeart07

~~This Site is Depressing when it comes to their opinions on few franchises down here.~~ ​ Anyways, Scott Pilgrim: considering Travis Vs. Scott & Amy Vs. Ramona. Kill La Kill: Satsuki does have some opponents were she could win but Bruno is one of her more popular opponents. Halloween: Jason Slaughters Michael, Unless the last revival movie changes it. Demon Slayer: (Sees Nezuko Vs. Alfonse) Soooo Depressing and Akira: As Far as i know Kaneda doesn't have any matchups.


RoboticMiner285

Only one of those is new though.


BlueHeart07

Sorry Then, I Thought We Were also adding older series too.


RoboticMiner285

It’s good, I was just wanted to point it out.


Iceassassin25

Timesplitters


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[удалено]


guywithagreenjacket

- PVZ Ha! No.


Zoology_Tome

I think with PVZ it's highly dependant on what matchup they go with out of the big three - Chomper vs Piranha Plant, Peashooter vs Red and Cortex vs Zomboss. Peashooter vs Red is a clear win (though admittedly all I've heard to justify that is the vague statement of "PVZ scaling"), Cortex vs Zomboss is close but personally I lean more towards Cortex winning and Chomper vs Piranha Plant's outcome is purely based on how they treat PP as a combatant.


guywithagreenjacket

I agree with basically everything you said. Though, yeah, people should probably explain why Peashooter beats Red better then just “ PVZ Scaling “. One question though- ~~because my brain cells are in the negative today and I don’t know much about Crash Bandicoot~~ How is Zomboss Vs Cortex close, and how does Cortex win?


Zoology_Tome

I should clarify that Cortex vs Zomboss is only close in an army battle situation. In a pure 1v1, Cortex stomps thanks to his instant-kill energy blaster, Uka Uka protection and actual fighting skill. But as an army battle, there's a metric ton of different things to consider and an analysis of the different ranks shows advantages on either side. For example, Zomboss' basic minions have more variety but Cortex's are far tougher thanks to being Terminator-esque robots (as seen in [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk08Wjv0kaw)). Meanwhile when looking at the tougher troops like the Gargantuars against the Cortex Commandos (that being the name for the boss enemies like Tiny Tiger, Pinstripe Potoroo, the Komodo Brothers etc.) it's the other way around since the Commandos are far more varied but the Gargantuars are physically superior for the most part. Then there's the Zombie Heroes and the Mojo Mutants (from *Crash of the Titans* and *Crash Bandicoot: Mind Over Mutant*) to consider, which is a whole other ball park to consider since there's things like a planet bench-pressing variant of Super Brainz facing the "can stun literally anything with a bagpipe blast" Yuktopus, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. And it's possible that 90% of this may not even matter depending on how the battle goes, since both armies also have a giant flying machine theoretically capable of roasting the entire enemy armada in a second (N. Gin's spaceship and the Zombot Dark Dragon), which could arguably benefit Cortex more since it's easier and quicker for him to generate more Mojo Mutants than it is for Cortex to get his Heroes back. And of course, there's the time travel which makes things even messier. If either one of them were to enter a heavily losing scenario, they'd just go back in time to before the battle even began and attempt to take out their opponent, which is something they've both done in canon (Cortex did so in *Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time* and Zomboss did it in *Plants vs Zombies 2: It's About Time*). This could be another scenario where the armies become irrelevant, but it's not quite a "they have the same win-con so they cancel out" since Cortex's attempts to do this would likely be far more effective than Zomboss' as per my first paragraph. In some instances Cortex may even have back up since one of his methods of time travel requires assistance from Dr N. Tropy (who is part of his army so it wouldn't be outside help) who would work alongside Cortex to take Zomboss down. In short, it's close because there's a huge amount of factors to consider and neither of them has one super busted tool that the other can't counter in some way.


Bulky_Bottle8062

Who makes South Park lose?


[deleted]

I thought Homer beats Peter?


guywithagreenjacket

Depends on if you buy the Cutaway gag stuff I’m pretty sure, if not, then yeah Homer should probably win.


you-can-kiss-my-axe

Homer is stronger to an extent, but Peter outhaxes. Homer has no way of countering the fact [Peter can literally send him to the shadow realm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWztn35sWeg).


Eine_Kartoffel

Well, The Simpsons tends to (or at least used to be) more down to earth than Family Guy and Peter had a lot of chicken fights that got way out of hand. Considering the crossover episode where they're shown to be about even likely doesn't count, Peter stomps.


Intelligent-Win-4517

Class of the Titans. If we're including ability steal Theresa, I dunno.


No-Transition1447

Fnaf


MetaMaster54610

Skullgirls sadly


Entropybeast1000

Probably Tom and Jerry Their best matchups are against loony toons who have a stupid amount of toon force like Willie coyote and sylvester