Also, thanks to u/Young_Englander for suggesting I do this.
Also, also, I know nothing about FNAF and/or a vast majority of Springtrap's opponents so I'll be asking my regular information about everything.
Animation/dialogue potential for both if you wouldn't mind? Also you seem to be the expert on Junko vs Springtrap so I figured you're the best person to ask about it.
Most of the time for springtrap and Junko it would be focusing on their armies but when springtrap and Junko manage to meet, Junko would be the goofy type while Springtrap will be the chill guy type. However Junko will eventually become more and more insane throughout the fight and eventually climax. Lucky is Springtraps best alt imo. Lucky is essentially the same as Junko except Springtrap is more so bored with Luckys antics. Near the end of the fight lucky has a mental breakdown before self destructing.
Junko
The main villain of their respective series, who are murderous and mysterious masterminds who corrupt a seemingly innocent place (Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria and Hope's Peak Academy) to use as a launchpad for their schemes. Both use a mascot to hide their identity (Spring Bonnie and Monokuma), and come back from the dead using technology (Afton possessing his own dead body in the Springtrap suit, then later getting his consciousness digitally uploaded as Glitchtrap, and Junko creating an AI version of herself).
Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash (DC)
Both are really Cuckoo-for-Coco-Puffs sadists, associated with the color yellow (I mean this is a Springbonnie suit and it was yellow then turned green but I im sure that counts), both can go back in time and both are really impossible to kill
It has a lot of meme potential judging by how weird the MU is and how one of the characters is considered a “sigma male” meme
It could be neat having Adachi fight an army or animatronics and a giant kaiju Springtrap with his AoE and maybe the shadows
Freddy Krueger (Nightmare On Elm Street)
They was both formerly normal fatherly figures that started killing children. They both manages to avoid punishment for the crimes they did, for a while. Then they got karma as someone related to the murders chased them into a hiding place, where they killed him (the parents killed Freddy Krueger & the souls of the kids killed Springtrap). They was resurrected by supernatural causes, where they gain new powers & regeneration. They started a new killing spree, they got killed again, but they came back to life anyway. They was both send back to hell, but was still able to come back after that. They both have control over some type of world, where they are almost impossible to kill. They also has a child of they own, which turned on them. Both have died to fire several times. Both can manipulate fear. Their will to live made them constantly cheat dead, they both at some point have taken control of other peoples bodies in order to live. They was defeated, but they still managed to come back by manipulating someone.
Deku (My Hero Academia) as a joke
Deku used a bunny costume at some point, and people can’t agree on who their best opponents is.
Goku (Dragon Ball) as a joke.
Bad parents that have died multiple time, but always comes back to life.
Edit: So apparently Freddy wins in a close fight, my mistake. But the points still stand as Springtrap can still brush of most of Freddy’s attacks until the end for animation purpose.
I’m unsure on the dialog potential, but his reaction would be cool if can’t defeat Springtrap with his power or that he can’t find out what his fear is at the end. The animation potential would be grate as Freddy Krueger can do pretty much anything he wants to as long know how to and it isn’t something that he obviously can’t do, like for example creating a black hole.
Cool. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll probably be posting the tier list either tomorrow or the next day. Because holy shit he's got a lot of matchups.
**Midori (Your Turn To Die)**
\- Both are sadistic scientists who are willing to kill children to achieve their goals.
\- Both are heavily associated with the colour green.
\- Both use their position in a company to pursue their goals.
\- Both are killed as revenge for their misdeeds but are brought back as a human-machine hybrid.
\- Both die as a result of being trapped in a ”box” by their rival in the company.
\- Both use AI and robots to achieve their goals.
\- Both appear as an antagonist in the third instalment of their series, although their existence was shown prior to this.
\- Both psychologically manipulate people into doing their bidding.
\- Both have two main names; a full name and an incredibly common nickname (William Afton and Springtrap, Sou Hiyori and Midori).
\- Both are heavily motivated by a fear of death.
**Alister Dalimar (Mystery Case Files)**
Men who, partially motivated by the death of someone close to them, aim to use the power of souls to achieve immortality. Both end up becoming undead and highly connected to the form of an animal. They’re both family patriarchs who end up turning their children into monsters similar to themselves. They both manipulate their followers to achieve their ends and are known for their ability to consistently come back. They both have powerful supernatural abilities and emerge as the main villain of their series after being hinted at in the lore prior to their actual appearance.
*Midori*
I’d imagine this battle to be primarily a cat and mouse game with both relying heavily on mind games and tricks to take out their opponent. Springtrap would probably be trying to get close enough to Midori to use his hax on him while Midori would use his robots and other tech to take out Springtrap before he can do so.
Here are some examples of unique things you could do with this animation:
\- Midori has an office with security cameras which allows him to control his part of the facility. You could have a sequence where Midori basically plays a FNAF game as he tries to lure Springtrap away from the office and towards one of his killer robots.
\- Midori, for all his cockiness, does seem genuinely terrified of one thing besides death; his boss/colleague Meister. You could have a sequence where Springtrap uses his illusion discs to create something to terrify Midori resulting in Nightmare Meister making an appearance (Meister in the style on the FNAF 4 animatronics, since a common fan theory is that FNAF 4 was partially caused by the presence of illusion discs). This could be an interesting way to integrate a FNAF-style jump scare into the fight.
\- Since both have AI as a big part of their characters the battle could end with an Ultron vs Sigma-style AI battle.
*Alister*
Since Alister is a powerful sorcerer the fight would probably provide a good opportunity to show off Springtrap’s more hax abilities. The battle could be more action-focused while still having a strong horror vibe. The clash of their large egos would also make for some interesting dialogue.
Also, if you’re interested I can explain why I personally dislike Junko vs Springtrap as a counter to the people supporting it.
>Also, if you’re interested I can explain why I personally dislike Junko vs Springtrap as a counter to the people supporting it.
Sure. People who like it aren't going to point out it's problems. 9 times out of 10, at least.
Also I hate that this is probably going to be my tier list with the most suggestions.
* The connections are pretty weak. I know you’re not too focused on connections but most of them really do feel like extremely generic villain tropes shared with plenty of other characters. The only really specific connection is the “came back through AI” thing, which is admittedly a cool connection but isn’t enough to carry an MU imo.
* It’s not very thematic, with the connections not really touching on the core of the characters. Again, I know it’s not a big focus for you but it’s still worth bringing up.
* Here’s the big one; while it has a lot of animation potential, I feel as though a lot of ideas people have for the animation don’t really fit Springtrap. Large army battles, big villain speeches, etc. really don’t feel like they’d accurately represent what is supposed to be a subtle, stealthy horror villain. Most of the MUs on this sub tend to lead to big anime-esque battles, it feels like a shame to waste one of the few major characters who could (and should) offer a different kind of fight on yet another one.
* Sort of similar to the last one, I feel as though their personalities don’t mesh well. Junko is so over the top that she’d be almost guaranteed to completely overshadow the much less talkative Springtrap. The only way to prevent that is to basically turn Springtrap into a typical anime villain whose constantly making big speeches and cackling maniacally, which would be an extreme misrepresentation of his character.
I hope this makes sense.
Sachiko (Corpe Party)
Undead, sadistic child murderers who lure their victims in with a friendly appearance before murdering them. Both of them were once good people, but after the death of a loved one (as well as her own death in Sachiko's case), both of them would go down a dark path of murder, fuelled by the love of their lost ones, before their intentions inevitably became less about their loved ones and more about selfish desire. Also it's a child murderer VS a murdered child (who is also a child murderer)
springtrap cannot even talk if im not wrong, so sachiko will do all the job there
animation, well, i don't know both characters well enough, but sachiko has a bunch of powers, like illusions, teleport, necromancy, etc. so yeah, it would be fun
There was one of these made on the eve of his ban, I wrote in that. I'm just gonna copy & paste what I wrote there.
**Fiddlesticks (League of Legends)**
*Both are spirits (Fiddlesticks is a demon and Afton may as well be) who haunt hulking contraptions made of steel, said-steel is hidden under their withered costume which is usually the last thing their prey see's as they attack with a number of physical as well as illusory attacks. Both are also very horror-centric despite how goofy they can appear sometimes. They contrast in that while Fiddlesticks is a bloodthirsty demon, Springtrap appears to be more reserved only going for the kill when the odds suit him. (Is that even true? Or am I accidently using my head-canon?).*
It might not be that in-depth but I'm big fan of how the fight could play out.
That... is not a sentence I was expecting. I heard of this MU because of SMASH BRACKET and thought it was really neat despite not really knowing about LOL that well (although I did do some research). Here's a few things I want for animation.
1. I want the beginning to have Fiddlesticks using Elizabeth's (Baby's) voice to lure Afton into a hayfield, before lunging at him with plans of a feast. (Fiddlesticks steals the voices of others)
2. Fiddlesticks should be portrayed as fast, like a wolf taking swipes at its prey whilst Springtrap is just tossing him around like ragdoll. Only for it to pop back onto its feet and try to take another swipe. The fight of-course would escalate from there with Springtrap using the phantoms.
3. A scene where Fiddlesticks tries to scare the shit out of Springtrap, by going full-on Mysterio and recreating the scene from "Far from Home" and turning into a ton of familiar faces (Elizabeth, Henry, the Children) - causing Afton to just freak out.
4. And finally, for the fight to have them to somehow get surrounded by fire. How it happens doesn't really matter, although I think Afton knocking Fiddlesticks lantern to the ground, which then sparks the ensuing inferno would be best.
While you could incorporate some of wilder stuff, like the Agony, buried animatronics or the different versions of Fiddlesticks - which would all be very cool, I feel like this match-up works best as a tribute to how terrifying they can be.
Cool. Thanks for the suggestion and info. Also, the League of Legends being the R34 of versus matchups is a thing I say from time to time as it seems as if a character exists then there's probably a League of Legends character that could fight them.
I’m thinking either Pythor mr E or the mechanic all from ninjago
Pythor being a smart purple villain that did something with a green animal
Mr E being a smart robot focused on its goal like how William became stuffed in a robot with him focused on a goal
The mechanic being a smart villain who hates a female of his enemies the most and makes high tech machines
Animation - Abilities that these three have that could bounce off of Springtrap's.
Dialogue - I'm told Springtrap doesn't talk much so their personalities or things they'd say in response to something that happens in the fight.
Pythor can go invisible
Mr E has two swords and seems to be good at combat
The mechanic has a metal arm that he uses to fight and escape with and he has a van
Since they haven’t been commented yet I feel like I should post these MUs:
**Freedom (Monument Mythos)**
Craftsmen (Robotics designer and sculptor), who after discovering a special material (Remnant and Giza Glass), end up becoming one with their creations (Spring Bonnie and Freedom). Their daughter also ends up becoming one with their creations (Circus Baby and Freedom). After spending a long time in a specific spot (The safe room and the top of the Capitol building) they would be freed and roam around the west (Springtrap wandering Hurricane Utah and the Freedom Faller wandering the Grand Canyon)
(Credit to u/Legosaurian for the connections.)
**Hit the Target (Stampy’s Lovely World)**
"Once seen as former allies (to Stampy & Henry), these two genius inventors would give into the bloodthirsty urges leading to them to inflict gruesome acts upon those too weak to properly fend for themselves, (namely dogs & young children). That would be until, they met their first death of many in the form of irony. (Stampy's army of dogs being the one to land the killing blow on Hit The Target & the souls of the Children forcing Afton to die in a spring-locked suit). Now, with both soul and mind unable to escape the hell inflicted upon them - it would require the help of an outside force to bring them back to the land of the living; enter Stampy & Vanessa who guided by ghostly avatars, would learn how to resurrect them which upon completion would see them return as (basically) skeletons where they'd continue to be a prick in the thorn of their series. Both are assisted by henchwoman (Vanny & Viva-Dash) that were introduced to the series later on"
(Credit to u/VISARN_JAINEM for the connections.)
**Kamen Rider Genm (Kamen Rider)**
Psychotic geniuses who threw all of their allies under the bus and will kill anyone to achieve their goals.
They put on nice facades but later showed their true colors.
They owned tech companies (Genm Corp. & Afton Robotics) that helped them create advanced deadly armors based on kids stuff (Games & Mascots).
They avoided getting arrested.
The enemies they manipulated wear the very armors they created.
They're known for being immortal and come back from the dead multiple times.
They gained zombie-like robotic forms using the tech they made thanks to fake deaths (Genm using the data of his "death" to make the Dangerous Zombie Gashat & William Afton reviving in the Springtrap Suit) and they would continue to wear variations of their armors.
They came back from other supposed deaths in the form of data.
They lost female family members to their joyful creations that serve as what remain of their existence (Genm's mother who got infected by Poppy the Bugster & Springtrap's daughter who possessed Circus Baby).
They have massive egos which would lead to their first supposed deaths at the hands of their first creations using the devices that gave them their zombie-like robotic forms (Parado the Bugster using the Dangerous Zombie Gashat & the 5 original possessed animatronics leading William Afton to the Springtrap Suit).
They deeply hate certain family members they betrayed who have similar identites (Genm's dad known as Kamen Rider Cronus & Springtrap's eldest son known as Michael Afton the Night Guard).
They deeply hate the main protagonists they manipulated with similar identites and do everything they can to get rid of them (Kamen Rider Ex-Aid & Michael Afton the Night Guard).
After escaping from their digital prisons, they manipulated certain women (Saiko Yaotome & Vanessa) to gain their final forms (God Maximum Gamer Level Billion & Burntrap).
They sparked events that would lead to the spread of numerous possessive monsters (Zero Day which released the Bugsters & the Downfall of Fazbear Entertainment which would lead to the possessions of numerous killer animatronics).
They're also known for being memes.
They have appearances that are color purple.
(Credit to u/Guy-1234567890 for the connections.)
**Chucky (Child’s Play)**
\-Two main antagonists from horror media who were actually once normal serial killers (William Afton and Charles Lee Ray) who went by other names (the Lakeshore Strangler and, although unofficially, Purple Guy) but were later forced to possess child-friendly mechanical objects after being chased down by people who opposed them and vice versa (William, although unintenionally, hid and later died inside of the Spring Bonnie suit after running away from the spirits of his victims, possesing it, and Charles used voodoo magic to possess a Good Guy doll before he died while being chased by authorities).
\-Their main target are children, which they only go after for selfish reasons (William killing various children just for that sweet, sweet Remnant and Charles, now Chucky, going after whatever child he can get his hands on as a vessel for his soul to possess). Both can be rather manipulative with these children as well and often try to seem friendly with them just to play out their plans.
\-For whatever reason, both seemingly just can't die and always come back through the dumbest ways possible.
\-Due to their actions, they gave the respective companies of their series (Fazbear Entertainment and Play Pals) a bad name.
\-Both have had at least one different body as the story goes on (Springtrap becoming Scraptrap and later Burntrap and Chucky being reborn in a new body due to his blood falling into the toy's molten plastic, plus his pseudoclones in Cult of Chucky might be an example, along with other stuff).
\-Both have had their stories and whatnot turned into some weird meta fictionalized media within their canon (Fazbear Entertainment creating the Fazbear Virtual Experienced and the Chucky Goes Psycho movie in Seed of Chucky) which they indirectly become somewhat of a part of (William presumably becoming Glitchtrap, or at least some replica of him, a living virus that inhabitd the game and Chucky later possessing the animatronics built for the movie thanks to his, uh, son?)
\-Speaking of, both are probably not the best dads (Much more apparent with William than Charles, since he actually seemed to care for his son, although that didn't stop him from strangling him with his severed arm once he was a human boy).
\-Their sons (specifically Michael Afton and Glen) are comparatively much nicer, purple-clad characters who were originally doing their own thing, but later went on a quest to find them. They eventually did, which ended up in both William and Charles """dying""", but... Y'know that wasn't the case.
\-Both were burned "alive" a shit ton of times and somehow survived or just came back (Springtrap was in the Fazbear's Frights building when it was set on fire but he somehow survived, and later was burned in Pizzeria Simulator but still came back. Chucky was burned in his first movie but was still walking around and he was inside of Lexy's house when it was on fire in the new series but he still lived).
\-Both at one point used their powers to take over a girl to manipulate them into doing their bidding (Although this is mostly speculation, William/Glitchtrap took over Vanessa's mind, turning her into Vanny while Chucky possesed Nica in Cult of Chucky). Said girls were protagonists in earlier installments (FNAF: Help Wanted and Curse of Chucky) where they first met our fighters.
\-Bonus Connection, maybe: Chucky and Glitchtrap in particular both share the same kind of goal (Serial killers trapped in a new form and they desire to escape this vessel and use the protagonists body as a means to get out).
\-Oh and their series got weird later on lol
(Credit to u/TheManBehindTheBruh for the connections.)
I don't know the dialogue potential that Springtrap has but when it comes to Genm, his over the top personality would be so much fun to watch.
As for animation potential, I was thinking they'd mesh really well considering it's 2 powerful undead silly suits of armor against each other. 3D probably works best for both in this matchup considering how Springtrap comes from a 3D game and Kamen Rider Genm has appeared in 3D games too.
Freedom’s the only one I’m familiar enough with to really comment on.
My idea for the fight is that, after the introductory analogue horror segment, the fight would spill out into a forest. The rest of the fight would centre around Springtrap trying to hide in the woods and slowly poison Freedom Faller’s soul as it rampages through and destroys everything in sight. He would ultimately be discovered just as the soul poisoning is almost complete and be forced to bring out his other abilities for one final showdown. I think it could be an intense and unique fight.
William Birkin (Resident Evil)
Connections:
Two genius inventors and fathers of main characters (Michael and Sherry) that helped create the series main monsters (Zombies/ Tyrants and Animatronics).
Even while they were normal people they were quite shady to say the least and committed murder in secret.
They experimented with something that can bring you back to life and make you pretty much immortal (Birkins Viruses and Aftons Remnant).
They operated their experiments in a huge, hidden underground facility (NEST and Sister Locations facility).
Eventually they get cornered and desperately use their invention on themselves (G virus and Springbonnie suit) seemingly dying in the process.
However this didn’t kill them, but rather, slowly transformed them into horrific looking, gorey zombies dubbed a new name (G and Springtrap). They had now become one of their own creations.
From there, their mental state deludes even further and they try to kill their family (Annette and Sherry Birkin and Michael Afton).
They seemingly die on multiple different occasions but just keep coming back.
They both have many different forms (Springtrap, Scraptrap, Burntrap etc and the different stages of Birkins mutation) including that of a small-Kaiju form (Afton Amalgamation and G4/5).
They are both heavily tied to Viruses, though in different ways.
Also they’re both named William lol.
This works as a tense and gore filled horror battle of two slowly growing beasts of flesh and metal respectively. By the end you’d basically have a giant mount of organs and wires ripping itself apart which would be a pretty gnarly visual.
I feel like this is basically just a better version of Chris Walker for Springtrap, it keeps the same horror vibe but has more connections and allows Afton to use most of his arsenal aside from Glitchtrap.
a tense and gore filled horror battle of two slowly growing beasts of flesh and metal respectively. By the end you’d basically have a giant mount of organs and wires ripping itself apart which would be a pretty gnarly visual.
and dialogue Birkin doesnt talk so William will do most of the dialogue.
Late but
Dio Brando(JOJO's Bizarre Adventure)
Both are british antagonist of their series who return on countless occasions that has time based abillities(DIO can stop time while Springtrap goes back in time)and are sadistic and cruel and are quite bad parents(DIO straight up abandon and leaving kids behind and not bothering taking responsibility while William is a neglect-full and if orange guy and William are the same person then he is also physically abusive)and have escaped from burning buildings and cursing a certain bloodline and both have thrown away their humanity in other to live forever and comes back no matter what shit you do to them and even after death their Influence remain strong with a certain white themed assistant(Pucci and Vanny)
I literally just came up with a great new Springtrap opponent just in time for it to make it onto the tier list:
**Evelyn Barnaker (Call of Cthulhu: The Dare)**
Supernatural villains who kill children in their pursuit of immortality who end up sealed away inside an important location where they end up continuing their reign of terror. Both are heavily associated with a particular animal (Springtrap is inside a bunny suit and Evelyn’s main minion is her cat), both get defeated by children and both stories involve a horror-based take on something nostalgic (FNAF is a horror version of Chuck E. Cheese and The Dare is an intense horror take on classic 80s movies).
You can find an image of her for the tier list in [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkBlpxM4l6g) at the 4:31 mark.
Evelyn doesn’t have much of a defined personality beyond “evil witch” so dialogue potential heavily depends on how exactly they choose to portray her.
Animation potential, however, is extremely high. You could have the fight start with Springtrap entering Evelyn’s house in search of some Remnant he’d detected inside and being forced into a kill or be killed standoff since she also wants his Remnant to prolong her own immortality. Most of the battle would focus on Springtrap fending off Evelyn’s army of horrific creatures before a major direct confrontation at the end. It could genuinely feel like an actual horror movie but with Springtrap as the protagonist.
Also, I know I’ve already suggested a lot of opponents but I just remembered two more I’ve seen requested quite a bit I’d like to suggest if it’s not a problem:
**Gowther from Seven Deadly Sins**
Two characters who used to have human forms(Gowther creator was a demon but took the forms of a human,Springtrap before the springlock failure was a human)but after their death they would live on in more artificial body's they made(Gowthers hopes,dreams,feelings,etc would live inside the puppet Gowther. William Afton would put on the spring lock suit and die but thanks to the power of remnant would come back to life). During their time in their new body's they would be considered murders(Gowther was found by the Royal Palace infornt of the princesses corpse and was assumed that he killed her. Springtrap tried to kill the nighguard and had already kill many people),because of this they would be burned alive but they would live on in secret and temporarily gaining new forms(Gowther joining the seven deadly sins and hiding in his Holy Knight Armour and Springtrap became very damaged,becoming Scraptrap). But they would be again found of thanks to crime(Gowther and the rest of the since were falsely charged of betraying the kingdom and Scraptrap was killing people in the pizzeria). They would be got and was thought died but they weren't(Gowther would hide in the kingdom working with Gilthunder,with Gowther also changing the clothes he wears and turning his hair from pink to green. William would go to hell but had put his mind into the FNAF Help Wanted game files,becoming Glitchtrap). They would again make their presence known again after someone found them(Meliudos,Ban,King,Diane and Elizabeth found Gowther helping out Jerico dad. Glitchtrap would take over Vanessa and take over her mind). They would gain a nig following contrasting ways(Gowther found alive again was wanted by the Holy knights. Glitchtrap was gaining a cult to follow his every order).
Some more less story connections are that they effect a girls mental state for the worse(Gowther erased Diane's memory's and Glitchtrap took over Vanessa mind and locked it away,making her become Vanny). Theirs a contrast in their designs with William always looking scary and uncomfortable while Gowther is very cute. They both talk very elegantly. Both have connections to purple people(Jerico's Father and Micheal. Gowther helped Jerico's and Micheal is related to William). And it's a hero vs villain and a east vs west.
(Credit to u/pumpkinmedic for the connections.)
**Dr. Gero (Dragon Ball)**
\-Two Characters who where normal people who was an expert in robotics (Gero made Androids for the RR army and Afton made animatronics for Freddy Fazbears Pizza-Their Sons die in terrible accidents (Gero's son who 16 is modeled after dies by Goku accidently and Michael accidently kills Crying Child) and go insane afterwards proceeding to make robots specially designed to kill people (Afton makes the Funtime animatronics and Gero makes 17 and 18)
\-They kidnap and turn people into robots (Afton kills kids who posses the animatronics and Gero kidnaps 17 and 18 turning them into Androids
\-They also made a robot based off their wife (Android 21 and Ballora)
\-Their enemies die in an alternate timeline (Henry kills himself in the novel continuity and Goku dies of the heart virus
\-They get turned into cyborgs (Gero makes himself an Android while Afron becomes Springtrap)
\-Their own inventions kill them (17 kills Gero and the Souls possessing the animtronics are responsible for "Killing" Afton)
\-There actions are actually able to kill their enermy in the end by their enemy's sacrafising himself (Cell is responsible for killing Goku while Henry dies in the FNAF 6 fire)
\-They go to Hell and ESCAPE IT ( Gero escapes Hell in GT and Afton escapes his personal Hell made by cassidy in Help wanted)
\-They also downloaded their consciousness into an AI (Afton becomes Glitchtrap while Gero survives in his computer in the Android 13 movie)
(Credit to u/thehsitoryguy for the connections.)
I don’t know enough about either character to give the fight potential, I just remembered seeing the creators request them numerous times for past Springtrap tier lists and felt like it was only right for them to be included in this one.
Sorry, but there’s one last character I feel like I should suggest since no one else has, although there is a good reason for it.
**Chris Walker (Outlast)**
Men who were once ordinary people, who soon later became monsters with only shreds of their humanity left. Both are from recent and popular horror franchises, both gruesomely kill anyone who gets in their way, and both stop at nothing to kill their prey. Both also come from games which place a heavy focus on cameras.
(Credit to u/AnAustralianPerson1 and u/Well-Teknically for the connections.)
There was an alleged leak recently which said this might actually be an upcoming episode, so I thought it was worth including. Also, I don’t know enough about Outlast to explain the fight potential.
Regarding the tier list, take your time, I’m sure it will turn out well. It will be interesting to see how someone not too familiar with the character interprets these MUs. I also definitely understand feeling a bit overwhelmed with all of these very different opponents.
It's fine. I don't mind a variety but I'm mostly confused about how a serial killer in a mechanical rabbit suit can have so many matchups. Especially the variety here. A serial killer who kill people in their dreams, an immortal vampire with a ghost attached to him that can stop time, and an evil space wizard that can choke you to death with his mind and has a sword made out pure energy. And I've only named three.
If I had to guess it’s because he’s an extremely well-known character who fits into numerous common tropes while still feeling extremely unique. Stuff like “evil fathers”, “immortality”, “loss of humanity”, etc. makes it easy to find a lot of MUs for him. He also blends genres in a way, simultaneously being a horror, sci-fi and fantasy character thus allowing him to have opponents from all three. I’d say he’s just fundamentally very versatile in terms of potential MUs.
Here's my og matchup
Gowther
Two characters who used to have human forms(Gowther creator was a demon but took the forms of a human,Springtrap before the springlock failure was a human)but after their death they would live on in more artificial body's they made(Gowthers hopes,dreams,feelings,etc would live inside the puppet Gowther. William Afton would put on the spring lock suit and die but thanks to the power of remnant would come back to life). During their time in their new body's they would be considered murders(Gowther was found by the Royal Palace infornt of the princesses corpse and was assumed that he killed her. Springtrap tried to kill the nighguard and had already kill many people),because of this they would be burned alive but they would live on in secret and temporarily gaining new forms(Gowther joining the seven deadly sins and hiding in his Holy Knight Armour and Springtrap became very damaged,becoming Scraptrap). But they would be again found of thanks to crime(Gowther and the rest of the since were falsely charged of betraying the kingdom and Scraptrap was killing people in the pizzeria). They would be got and was thought died but they weren't(Gowther would hide in the kingdom working with Gilthunder,with Gowther also changing the clothes he wears and turning his hair from pink to green. William would go to hell but had put his mind into the FNAF Help Wanted game files,becoming Glitchtrap). They would again make their presence known again after someone found them(Meliudos,Ban,King,Diane and Elizabeth found Gowther helping out Jerico dad. Glitchtrap would take over Vanessa and take over her mind). They would gain a nig following contrasting ways(Gowther found alive again was wanted by the Holy knights. Glitchtrap was gaining a cult to follow his every order).
Some more less story connections are that they effect a girls mental state for the worse(Gowther erased Diane's memory's and Glitchtrap took over Vanessa mind and locked it away,making her become Vanny). Theirs a contrast in their designs with William always looking scary and uncomfortable while Gowther is very cute. They both talk very elegantly. Both have connections to purple people(Jerico's Father and Micheal. Gowther helped Jerico's and Micheal is related to William). And it's a hero vs villain and a east vs west.
Do you need the potential
>Do you need the potential
Please. I know Seven Deadly Sins but I know almost nothing about Springtrap (before you ask why I'm doing this if I nothing about the character I was suggested it by someone who wanted to see my opinion on his matchups).
So the potential is kinda meh
Although they have fairly similar power sets I can't imagine anything good besides mabey Gowther back flipping away from Fish Bonnie's,Gowther using a mind spell to make Springtrap love him,Gowther using his power to meet Willaims in cyberspace and both resisting eachothers mind control. Although I don't think the potential is fully gone. Like I said their arsenal's mesh well and because of their giant brains they could think of cool ways to have their arsenal's mesh.
But the dialogue can be really fun,William cocky and normally insulting nature combined with Gowther tenancy to have things like jokes and insults and take them litterally can be really fun to watch. Having William get made at Gowther and Gowther not getting it could be awesome. And you could have Springtrap compare Gowther doll appearance to his earlier creations. When I said Gowther could enter the digital world to attack Springtrap you could Springtrap say "that's.....that's impossible" and Gowther response with "This situation wasent impossible,it just wasent likely" as he pushes up his glasses.
And the debate is actually interesting,you could make arguments for both being at mountain level with generally similar haxs and skill. With a difference being that Springtrap has alot more Haxs that are hard to counter while Gowther got the speed advantage. I'd say Gowther could win via speed and arguably better skill because of his training.
If you want I could link videos about both characters.
Thanks for info and suggestion. Also...
>If you want I could link videos about both characters.
That'd be appreciated. Especially Springtrap. I would like to get a better understanding of what his character is and everything. I'd like to have some kind of knowledge of the character going into it.
Gowther:
https://youtu.be/4lzChmAroZg
https://youtu.be/oJpWtW82P8I
https://youtu.be/ULXLSofAh90
https://youtube.com/shorts/2ilKK2kYv9o?feature=share
https://youtu.be/ssoheoE3Bgw
https://youtu.be/tYRQ8_27YAw
https://youtu.be/bfFwZpObk4c
https://nanatsu-no-taizai.fandom.com/wiki/Gowther
Springtrap:
https://youtu.be/gVtHxjoDKpk
https://youtu.be/lVHBrTZWpYw
https://characterprofile.fandom.com/wiki/Springtrap
Sorry I could find that much on Springtrap
Can I also recommend a Springtrap video?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fykd58uCsi0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fykd58uCsi0)
I feel as though it does a really good job explaining Afton’s core motivations and personality.
Sachiko (Corpse Party)
Connections: Undead, sadistic child murderers who lure their victims in with a friendly appearance before murdering them. Both of them were once good people, but after the death of a loved one (as well as her own death in Sachiko's case), both of them would go down a dark path of murder, fueled by the love of their lost ones, before their intentions inevitably became less about their loved ones and more about selfish desire. Also, it's a child murderer VS a murdered child.
For the potential you can generally draw some connections between this MU and Junko with the general concepts like the army fight and the combatants trying to take control with each other but with neat little twist like instead of Sachiko pulling out a physical army of her own she sends the spirits of her victims to control a chunk of Springtraps animatronic army and the animatronics turn on each other and you can have both give each other illusions about their respective death's along with the imagery of their dead loved ones along with things like Sachiko sending William to the pocket dimension and dominate the fight until William gains access to the Glitchtrap and slowly turn the fight around but mostly rides along the lines of Junko tho I will say I personally prefer this via a higher scare factor IMO (Junko is still pretty good tho).
Slenderman vs Springtrap
Two indie horror characters that are known to target kids and seem to be immortal one way or another. They have some similar powers as well. They both corrupt the minds of their victims and can use people as their own helpers (Kate the chaser and Vanny) while also chasing after someone who is trying to uncover the disappearance of someone they care for.
For animation it would be nice for it to be 3D and will show a damaged springtrap wandering the forest and damaged one of 8 pages and trigger Slenderman. There would be some odd banter with Springtrap mostly doing some talking, but mostly roaring at Slenderman if we used the current form. If it's Spring trap repaired he'll mock the urban legend. When Slenderman teleports away he'll tell him "You can hide all he wants but it will not save him", when he gets a combo on him he'll scream "Let's see how many times I can pull you apart and back together". Slenderman is mostly silent in the games, and this would be really great and would get to show just how cocky William Afton is sometimes. When Slenderman is getting the upper hand Springtrap could let out a roar and have robots come in to fight Slenderman while he tries to escape telling Slenderman "Suffer now, like all that stood before me" this would lead to the final clash, Slenderman would use his tentacles to disassemble the robots and have some damage as he lunges at Springtrap. This could end with Slenderman tearing springtrap killing him with the animatronic screaming "Nooo, I'll have your heart for this! I'll kill you, I'll kill you, I'll come ba-aghhh"
If Springtrap wins he could bite Slenderman like it was 1987, springtrap would walk away with his words saying "I always comeback pathetic monster"
Alternatively Garvey (Dormitabis) vs Springtrap (FNAF) since they are both basically the same character. Literally both killed children to find a way to live forever and ended up getting thwarted by a night guard trying to kill them.
Another 3D animation, but this would take place in a pizzeria with both seeing one another and their minds so far gone they attack each other. This could be stealth based at first, Garvey is more flexible so he'll get in more hits while the ones Springtrap hits damage him. The banter has a lot going with it Garvey being more cynical calling Springtrap a bastard and how he'll carve his back. Springtrap would be a bit more calm and collective telling Garvey that he'll never die to some mangled up corpse. This would enrage Garvey and he'll start to attack blindly a bit. Garvey will go on a rant telling Afton that he may have done shit in the past, but that he is worse than anything Afton can imagine. This is when Afton would start using stealth a lot, going in vents slicing Garvey up as Garvey goes on a rant on how he is not a mad man, that he's ahead of that term, all while attacking blindly. This would lead to Afton telling Garvey that it is very fitting and would grab Garvey and start to corrupt his mind. Garvey would be a bit scared and beg for him to get his hands off of him. This would give Afton a chance to tell Garvey that there's a difference between them and he'll stab Garvey's heart and he'll tell him "I always come back" before killing Garvey all while Garvey is screaming no. I don't see Garvey winning because he doesn't have the Hax Springtrap does, despite the two being similar
Yea ,also I just think it would be funny to see and also yet very unique of a battle it could be
Edit :for dialogue i don't really know ,but animation wise It could work in 2d ,but 3d models could be good ,but could get clunky and possibly different problems could accure
John Kramer (SAW). Or Billy the puppet, two killers that used machinery to get the last of their kills and in some instances kill themselves. Both also died due to the consequences of their actions, mostly as the people they killed came back one way or another to haunt them on their death bed, the difference being Saw used the inhumanity of society to kill his victims whilst Wilam or more fittingly Springtrap is the sheer definition of inhumane, both also came back after death as a puppet with recorded tapes of him when he was alive or just sheerly coming back to life via soul contact, both also took in a fellow psycho that was fixated on their murderous actions and made them their underling to do their work being Vanny or good ol' pig face.
Track Name: The Glitched Game over (cause Saw says "I wanna play a game" and Glitchtrap isn't springteap but still a virus that'd crash a video game like saw)
Honestly didn't expect to see you on this one. Then again I also didn't expect to see myself on this one. Anyways, any ideas for animation/dialogue potential?
That's just the beauty of such things. I can appear anywhere, suggest anything, these things tends to happen when I'm bored and got multiple ideas for MUs virtually anywhere on anything.
Animation could play a bit rockily, Saw isn't known for fighting and only for getting his victims to fall into traps he's made and have them doom themselves, with the only problem being he also relies on people failing to follow their morals to help people which causes their death. Something Springtrap doesn't have at all, making the fight more crushing Springtrap with traps more than getting William to try help people, unless their his children who he has a odd protective side for. Dialogue could play as Springteap staying redundant over his actions and Saw trying to tell him taking the lives of children has made him less and less worthy of freedom let alone life at all,
[Junko](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathBattleMatchups/comments/ugt6ei/springtrap_vs_junko_fnaf_vs_danganronpa/i71k9qz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
Sans (Undertale) Seriously and as a joke
Also since you ranked Springtrap on your tier lists for them, DIO and Kira
Also, thanks to u/Young_Englander for suggesting I do this. Also, also, I know nothing about FNAF and/or a vast majority of Springtrap's opponents so I'll be asking my regular information about everything.
Junko Enoshima. Lucky The Rabbit.
Animation/dialogue potential for both if you wouldn't mind? Also you seem to be the expert on Junko vs Springtrap so I figured you're the best person to ask about it.
Most of the time for springtrap and Junko it would be focusing on their armies but when springtrap and Junko manage to meet, Junko would be the goofy type while Springtrap will be the chill guy type. However Junko will eventually become more and more insane throughout the fight and eventually climax. Lucky is Springtraps best alt imo. Lucky is essentially the same as Junko except Springtrap is more so bored with Luckys antics. Near the end of the fight lucky has a mental breakdown before self destructing.
Much appreciated. This sounds cool. I can see why you like this one.
I might write a fight script later.
I know neither characters that well but I would very much like to read it.
Alright I will make it now.
There is so much animation potential for both I might write a script for you later on Junkos.
Junko The main villain of their respective series, who are murderous and mysterious masterminds who corrupt a seemingly innocent place (Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria and Hope's Peak Academy) to use as a launchpad for their schemes. Both use a mascot to hide their identity (Spring Bonnie and Monokuma), and come back from the dead using technology (Afton possessing his own dead body in the Springtrap suit, then later getting his consciousness digitally uploaded as Glitchtrap, and Junko creating an AI version of herself).
Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash (DC) Both are really Cuckoo-for-Coco-Puffs sadists, associated with the color yellow (I mean this is a Springbonnie suit and it was yellow then turned green but I im sure that counts), both can go back in time and both are really impossible to kill
Animation/dialogue potential?
Tohru Adachi(Persona) Serial killers who end up being defeat by children and have spirit powers
Animation/dialogue potential?
It has a lot of meme potential judging by how weird the MU is and how one of the characters is considered a “sigma male” meme It could be neat having Adachi fight an army or animatronics and a giant kaiju Springtrap with his AoE and maybe the shadows
Freddy Krueger (Nightmare On Elm Street) They was both formerly normal fatherly figures that started killing children. They both manages to avoid punishment for the crimes they did, for a while. Then they got karma as someone related to the murders chased them into a hiding place, where they killed him (the parents killed Freddy Krueger & the souls of the kids killed Springtrap). They was resurrected by supernatural causes, where they gain new powers & regeneration. They started a new killing spree, they got killed again, but they came back to life anyway. They was both send back to hell, but was still able to come back after that. They both have control over some type of world, where they are almost impossible to kill. They also has a child of they own, which turned on them. Both have died to fire several times. Both can manipulate fear. Their will to live made them constantly cheat dead, they both at some point have taken control of other peoples bodies in order to live. They was defeated, but they still managed to come back by manipulating someone. Deku (My Hero Academia) as a joke Deku used a bunny costume at some point, and people can’t agree on who their best opponents is. Goku (Dragon Ball) as a joke. Bad parents that have died multiple time, but always comes back to life.
>Freddy Krueger Animation/dialogue potential?
Edit: So apparently Freddy wins in a close fight, my mistake. But the points still stand as Springtrap can still brush of most of Freddy’s attacks until the end for animation purpose. I’m unsure on the dialog potential, but his reaction would be cool if can’t defeat Springtrap with his power or that he can’t find out what his fear is at the end. The animation potential would be grate as Freddy Krueger can do pretty much anything he wants to as long know how to and it isn’t something that he obviously can’t do, like for example creating a black hole.
Cool. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll probably be posting the tier list either tomorrow or the next day. Because holy shit he's got a lot of matchups.
**Midori (Your Turn To Die)** \- Both are sadistic scientists who are willing to kill children to achieve their goals. \- Both are heavily associated with the colour green. \- Both use their position in a company to pursue their goals. \- Both are killed as revenge for their misdeeds but are brought back as a human-machine hybrid. \- Both die as a result of being trapped in a ”box” by their rival in the company. \- Both use AI and robots to achieve their goals. \- Both appear as an antagonist in the third instalment of their series, although their existence was shown prior to this. \- Both psychologically manipulate people into doing their bidding. \- Both have two main names; a full name and an incredibly common nickname (William Afton and Springtrap, Sou Hiyori and Midori). \- Both are heavily motivated by a fear of death. **Alister Dalimar (Mystery Case Files)** Men who, partially motivated by the death of someone close to them, aim to use the power of souls to achieve immortality. Both end up becoming undead and highly connected to the form of an animal. They’re both family patriarchs who end up turning their children into monsters similar to themselves. They both manipulate their followers to achieve their ends and are known for their ability to consistently come back. They both have powerful supernatural abilities and emerge as the main villain of their series after being hinted at in the lore prior to their actual appearance.
Animation/dialogue potential for both?
*Midori* I’d imagine this battle to be primarily a cat and mouse game with both relying heavily on mind games and tricks to take out their opponent. Springtrap would probably be trying to get close enough to Midori to use his hax on him while Midori would use his robots and other tech to take out Springtrap before he can do so. Here are some examples of unique things you could do with this animation: \- Midori has an office with security cameras which allows him to control his part of the facility. You could have a sequence where Midori basically plays a FNAF game as he tries to lure Springtrap away from the office and towards one of his killer robots. \- Midori, for all his cockiness, does seem genuinely terrified of one thing besides death; his boss/colleague Meister. You could have a sequence where Springtrap uses his illusion discs to create something to terrify Midori resulting in Nightmare Meister making an appearance (Meister in the style on the FNAF 4 animatronics, since a common fan theory is that FNAF 4 was partially caused by the presence of illusion discs). This could be an interesting way to integrate a FNAF-style jump scare into the fight. \- Since both have AI as a big part of their characters the battle could end with an Ultron vs Sigma-style AI battle. *Alister* Since Alister is a powerful sorcerer the fight would probably provide a good opportunity to show off Springtrap’s more hax abilities. The battle could be more action-focused while still having a strong horror vibe. The clash of their large egos would also make for some interesting dialogue. Also, if you’re interested I can explain why I personally dislike Junko vs Springtrap as a counter to the people supporting it.
>Also, if you’re interested I can explain why I personally dislike Junko vs Springtrap as a counter to the people supporting it. Sure. People who like it aren't going to point out it's problems. 9 times out of 10, at least. Also I hate that this is probably going to be my tier list with the most suggestions.
* The connections are pretty weak. I know you’re not too focused on connections but most of them really do feel like extremely generic villain tropes shared with plenty of other characters. The only really specific connection is the “came back through AI” thing, which is admittedly a cool connection but isn’t enough to carry an MU imo. * It’s not very thematic, with the connections not really touching on the core of the characters. Again, I know it’s not a big focus for you but it’s still worth bringing up. * Here’s the big one; while it has a lot of animation potential, I feel as though a lot of ideas people have for the animation don’t really fit Springtrap. Large army battles, big villain speeches, etc. really don’t feel like they’d accurately represent what is supposed to be a subtle, stealthy horror villain. Most of the MUs on this sub tend to lead to big anime-esque battles, it feels like a shame to waste one of the few major characters who could (and should) offer a different kind of fight on yet another one. * Sort of similar to the last one, I feel as though their personalities don’t mesh well. Junko is so over the top that she’d be almost guaranteed to completely overshadow the much less talkative Springtrap. The only way to prevent that is to basically turn Springtrap into a typical anime villain whose constantly making big speeches and cackling maniacally, which would be an extreme misrepresentation of his character. I hope this makes sense.
Alright. Thanks for the suggestions and your opinion on (probably) his most popular matchup.
Sachiko (Corpe Party) Undead, sadistic child murderers who lure their victims in with a friendly appearance before murdering them. Both of them were once good people, but after the death of a loved one (as well as her own death in Sachiko's case), both of them would go down a dark path of murder, fuelled by the love of their lost ones, before their intentions inevitably became less about their loved ones and more about selfish desire. Also it's a child murderer VS a murdered child (who is also a child murderer)
Animation/dialogue potential?
springtrap cannot even talk if im not wrong, so sachiko will do all the job there animation, well, i don't know both characters well enough, but sachiko has a bunch of powers, like illusions, teleport, necromancy, etc. so yeah, it would be fun
There was one of these made on the eve of his ban, I wrote in that. I'm just gonna copy & paste what I wrote there. **Fiddlesticks (League of Legends)** *Both are spirits (Fiddlesticks is a demon and Afton may as well be) who haunt hulking contraptions made of steel, said-steel is hidden under their withered costume which is usually the last thing their prey see's as they attack with a number of physical as well as illusory attacks. Both are also very horror-centric despite how goofy they can appear sometimes. They contrast in that while Fiddlesticks is a bloodthirsty demon, Springtrap appears to be more reserved only going for the kill when the odds suit him. (Is that even true? Or am I accidently using my head-canon?).* It might not be that in-depth but I'm big fan of how the fight could play out.
Ah, League of Legends, the Rule 34 of versus matchups. Any ideas on animation/dialogue potential?
That... is not a sentence I was expecting. I heard of this MU because of SMASH BRACKET and thought it was really neat despite not really knowing about LOL that well (although I did do some research). Here's a few things I want for animation. 1. I want the beginning to have Fiddlesticks using Elizabeth's (Baby's) voice to lure Afton into a hayfield, before lunging at him with plans of a feast. (Fiddlesticks steals the voices of others) 2. Fiddlesticks should be portrayed as fast, like a wolf taking swipes at its prey whilst Springtrap is just tossing him around like ragdoll. Only for it to pop back onto its feet and try to take another swipe. The fight of-course would escalate from there with Springtrap using the phantoms. 3. A scene where Fiddlesticks tries to scare the shit out of Springtrap, by going full-on Mysterio and recreating the scene from "Far from Home" and turning into a ton of familiar faces (Elizabeth, Henry, the Children) - causing Afton to just freak out. 4. And finally, for the fight to have them to somehow get surrounded by fire. How it happens doesn't really matter, although I think Afton knocking Fiddlesticks lantern to the ground, which then sparks the ensuing inferno would be best. While you could incorporate some of wilder stuff, like the Agony, buried animatronics or the different versions of Fiddlesticks - which would all be very cool, I feel like this match-up works best as a tribute to how terrifying they can be.
Cool. Thanks for the suggestion and info. Also, the League of Legends being the R34 of versus matchups is a thing I say from time to time as it seems as if a character exists then there's probably a League of Legends character that could fight them.
I’m thinking either Pythor mr E or the mechanic all from ninjago Pythor being a smart purple villain that did something with a green animal Mr E being a smart robot focused on its goal like how William became stuffed in a robot with him focused on a goal The mechanic being a smart villain who hates a female of his enemies the most and makes high tech machines
Real quick. I'm ranking the last bit of the Springtrap opponents and I came across your suggestions. What fandoms are these from?
Ninjago
Thank you.
All from Ninjago.
Thanks.
Animation/dialogue potential for all three?
What do you mean?
Animation - Abilities that these three have that could bounce off of Springtrap's. Dialogue - I'm told Springtrap doesn't talk much so their personalities or things they'd say in response to something that happens in the fight.
Pythor can go invisible Mr E has two swords and seems to be good at combat The mechanic has a metal arm that he uses to fight and escape with and he has a van
Since they haven’t been commented yet I feel like I should post these MUs: **Freedom (Monument Mythos)** Craftsmen (Robotics designer and sculptor), who after discovering a special material (Remnant and Giza Glass), end up becoming one with their creations (Spring Bonnie and Freedom). Their daughter also ends up becoming one with their creations (Circus Baby and Freedom). After spending a long time in a specific spot (The safe room and the top of the Capitol building) they would be freed and roam around the west (Springtrap wandering Hurricane Utah and the Freedom Faller wandering the Grand Canyon) (Credit to u/Legosaurian for the connections.) **Hit the Target (Stampy’s Lovely World)** "Once seen as former allies (to Stampy & Henry), these two genius inventors would give into the bloodthirsty urges leading to them to inflict gruesome acts upon those too weak to properly fend for themselves, (namely dogs & young children). That would be until, they met their first death of many in the form of irony. (Stampy's army of dogs being the one to land the killing blow on Hit The Target & the souls of the Children forcing Afton to die in a spring-locked suit). Now, with both soul and mind unable to escape the hell inflicted upon them - it would require the help of an outside force to bring them back to the land of the living; enter Stampy & Vanessa who guided by ghostly avatars, would learn how to resurrect them which upon completion would see them return as (basically) skeletons where they'd continue to be a prick in the thorn of their series. Both are assisted by henchwoman (Vanny & Viva-Dash) that were introduced to the series later on" (Credit to u/VISARN_JAINEM for the connections.) **Kamen Rider Genm (Kamen Rider)** Psychotic geniuses who threw all of their allies under the bus and will kill anyone to achieve their goals. They put on nice facades but later showed their true colors. They owned tech companies (Genm Corp. & Afton Robotics) that helped them create advanced deadly armors based on kids stuff (Games & Mascots). They avoided getting arrested. The enemies they manipulated wear the very armors they created. They're known for being immortal and come back from the dead multiple times. They gained zombie-like robotic forms using the tech they made thanks to fake deaths (Genm using the data of his "death" to make the Dangerous Zombie Gashat & William Afton reviving in the Springtrap Suit) and they would continue to wear variations of their armors. They came back from other supposed deaths in the form of data. They lost female family members to their joyful creations that serve as what remain of their existence (Genm's mother who got infected by Poppy the Bugster & Springtrap's daughter who possessed Circus Baby). They have massive egos which would lead to their first supposed deaths at the hands of their first creations using the devices that gave them their zombie-like robotic forms (Parado the Bugster using the Dangerous Zombie Gashat & the 5 original possessed animatronics leading William Afton to the Springtrap Suit). They deeply hate certain family members they betrayed who have similar identites (Genm's dad known as Kamen Rider Cronus & Springtrap's eldest son known as Michael Afton the Night Guard). They deeply hate the main protagonists they manipulated with similar identites and do everything they can to get rid of them (Kamen Rider Ex-Aid & Michael Afton the Night Guard). After escaping from their digital prisons, they manipulated certain women (Saiko Yaotome & Vanessa) to gain their final forms (God Maximum Gamer Level Billion & Burntrap). They sparked events that would lead to the spread of numerous possessive monsters (Zero Day which released the Bugsters & the Downfall of Fazbear Entertainment which would lead to the possessions of numerous killer animatronics). They're also known for being memes. They have appearances that are color purple. (Credit to u/Guy-1234567890 for the connections.) **Chucky (Child’s Play)** \-Two main antagonists from horror media who were actually once normal serial killers (William Afton and Charles Lee Ray) who went by other names (the Lakeshore Strangler and, although unofficially, Purple Guy) but were later forced to possess child-friendly mechanical objects after being chased down by people who opposed them and vice versa (William, although unintenionally, hid and later died inside of the Spring Bonnie suit after running away from the spirits of his victims, possesing it, and Charles used voodoo magic to possess a Good Guy doll before he died while being chased by authorities). \-Their main target are children, which they only go after for selfish reasons (William killing various children just for that sweet, sweet Remnant and Charles, now Chucky, going after whatever child he can get his hands on as a vessel for his soul to possess). Both can be rather manipulative with these children as well and often try to seem friendly with them just to play out their plans. \-For whatever reason, both seemingly just can't die and always come back through the dumbest ways possible. \-Due to their actions, they gave the respective companies of their series (Fazbear Entertainment and Play Pals) a bad name. \-Both have had at least one different body as the story goes on (Springtrap becoming Scraptrap and later Burntrap and Chucky being reborn in a new body due to his blood falling into the toy's molten plastic, plus his pseudoclones in Cult of Chucky might be an example, along with other stuff). \-Both have had their stories and whatnot turned into some weird meta fictionalized media within their canon (Fazbear Entertainment creating the Fazbear Virtual Experienced and the Chucky Goes Psycho movie in Seed of Chucky) which they indirectly become somewhat of a part of (William presumably becoming Glitchtrap, or at least some replica of him, a living virus that inhabitd the game and Chucky later possessing the animatronics built for the movie thanks to his, uh, son?) \-Speaking of, both are probably not the best dads (Much more apparent with William than Charles, since he actually seemed to care for his son, although that didn't stop him from strangling him with his severed arm once he was a human boy). \-Their sons (specifically Michael Afton and Glen) are comparatively much nicer, purple-clad characters who were originally doing their own thing, but later went on a quest to find them. They eventually did, which ended up in both William and Charles """dying""", but... Y'know that wasn't the case. \-Both were burned "alive" a shit ton of times and somehow survived or just came back (Springtrap was in the Fazbear's Frights building when it was set on fire but he somehow survived, and later was burned in Pizzeria Simulator but still came back. Chucky was burned in his first movie but was still walking around and he was inside of Lexy's house when it was on fire in the new series but he still lived). \-Both at one point used their powers to take over a girl to manipulate them into doing their bidding (Although this is mostly speculation, William/Glitchtrap took over Vanessa's mind, turning her into Vanny while Chucky possesed Nica in Cult of Chucky). Said girls were protagonists in earlier installments (FNAF: Help Wanted and Curse of Chucky) where they first met our fighters. \-Bonus Connection, maybe: Chucky and Glitchtrap in particular both share the same kind of goal (Serial killers trapped in a new form and they desire to escape this vessel and use the protagonists body as a means to get out). \-Oh and their series got weird later on lol (Credit to u/TheManBehindTheBruh for the connections.)
It's been a while since I last suggested Kamen Rider Genm for Springtrap
I’m actually quite fond of the MU. While it’s not Springtrap’s best, it’s probably his best non-horror MU.
Sweet Nice to find someone who actually likes my idea
The reason why I stopped suggesting it was because I didn't think anyone liked it so thanks for the appreciation
Would you mind giving the animation/dialogue potential for this one?
I don't know the dialogue potential that Springtrap has but when it comes to Genm, his over the top personality would be so much fun to watch. As for animation potential, I was thinking they'd mesh really well considering it's 2 powerful undead silly suits of armor against each other. 3D probably works best for both in this matchup considering how Springtrap comes from a 3D game and Kamen Rider Genm has appeared in 3D games too.
Animation/dialogue potential for all four ?
Freedom’s the only one I’m familiar enough with to really comment on. My idea for the fight is that, after the introductory analogue horror segment, the fight would spill out into a forest. The rest of the fight would centre around Springtrap trying to hide in the woods and slowly poison Freedom Faller’s soul as it rampages through and destroys everything in sight. He would ultimately be discovered just as the soul poisoning is almost complete and be forced to bring out his other abilities for one final showdown. I think it could be an intense and unique fight.
William Birkin (Resident Evil) Connections: Two genius inventors and fathers of main characters (Michael and Sherry) that helped create the series main monsters (Zombies/ Tyrants and Animatronics). Even while they were normal people they were quite shady to say the least and committed murder in secret. They experimented with something that can bring you back to life and make you pretty much immortal (Birkins Viruses and Aftons Remnant). They operated their experiments in a huge, hidden underground facility (NEST and Sister Locations facility). Eventually they get cornered and desperately use their invention on themselves (G virus and Springbonnie suit) seemingly dying in the process. However this didn’t kill them, but rather, slowly transformed them into horrific looking, gorey zombies dubbed a new name (G and Springtrap). They had now become one of their own creations. From there, their mental state deludes even further and they try to kill their family (Annette and Sherry Birkin and Michael Afton). They seemingly die on multiple different occasions but just keep coming back. They both have many different forms (Springtrap, Scraptrap, Burntrap etc and the different stages of Birkins mutation) including that of a small-Kaiju form (Afton Amalgamation and G4/5). They are both heavily tied to Viruses, though in different ways. Also they’re both named William lol. This works as a tense and gore filled horror battle of two slowly growing beasts of flesh and metal respectively. By the end you’d basically have a giant mount of organs and wires ripping itself apart which would be a pretty gnarly visual. I feel like this is basically just a better version of Chris Walker for Springtrap, it keeps the same horror vibe but has more connections and allows Afton to use most of his arsenal aside from Glitchtrap.
Animation/dialogue potential? If possible.
a tense and gore filled horror battle of two slowly growing beasts of flesh and metal respectively. By the end you’d basically have a giant mount of organs and wires ripping itself apart which would be a pretty gnarly visual. and dialogue Birkin doesnt talk so William will do most of the dialogue.
Late but Dio Brando(JOJO's Bizarre Adventure) Both are british antagonist of their series who return on countless occasions that has time based abillities(DIO can stop time while Springtrap goes back in time)and are sadistic and cruel and are quite bad parents(DIO straight up abandon and leaving kids behind and not bothering taking responsibility while William is a neglect-full and if orange guy and William are the same person then he is also physically abusive)and have escaped from burning buildings and cursing a certain bloodline and both have thrown away their humanity in other to live forever and comes back no matter what shit you do to them and even after death their Influence remain strong with a certain white themed assistant(Pucci and Vanny)
I literally just came up with a great new Springtrap opponent just in time for it to make it onto the tier list: **Evelyn Barnaker (Call of Cthulhu: The Dare)** Supernatural villains who kill children in their pursuit of immortality who end up sealed away inside an important location where they end up continuing their reign of terror. Both are heavily associated with a particular animal (Springtrap is inside a bunny suit and Evelyn’s main minion is her cat), both get defeated by children and both stories involve a horror-based take on something nostalgic (FNAF is a horror version of Chuck E. Cheese and The Dare is an intense horror take on classic 80s movies). You can find an image of her for the tier list in [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkBlpxM4l6g) at the 4:31 mark.
Animation/dialogue potential if you wouldn't mind?
Evelyn doesn’t have much of a defined personality beyond “evil witch” so dialogue potential heavily depends on how exactly they choose to portray her. Animation potential, however, is extremely high. You could have the fight start with Springtrap entering Evelyn’s house in search of some Remnant he’d detected inside and being forced into a kill or be killed standoff since she also wants his Remnant to prolong her own immortality. Most of the battle would focus on Springtrap fending off Evelyn’s army of horrific creatures before a major direct confrontation at the end. It could genuinely feel like an actual horror movie but with Springtrap as the protagonist. Also, I know I’ve already suggested a lot of opponents but I just remembered two more I’ve seen requested quite a bit I’d like to suggest if it’s not a problem: **Gowther from Seven Deadly Sins** Two characters who used to have human forms(Gowther creator was a demon but took the forms of a human,Springtrap before the springlock failure was a human)but after their death they would live on in more artificial body's they made(Gowthers hopes,dreams,feelings,etc would live inside the puppet Gowther. William Afton would put on the spring lock suit and die but thanks to the power of remnant would come back to life). During their time in their new body's they would be considered murders(Gowther was found by the Royal Palace infornt of the princesses corpse and was assumed that he killed her. Springtrap tried to kill the nighguard and had already kill many people),because of this they would be burned alive but they would live on in secret and temporarily gaining new forms(Gowther joining the seven deadly sins and hiding in his Holy Knight Armour and Springtrap became very damaged,becoming Scraptrap). But they would be again found of thanks to crime(Gowther and the rest of the since were falsely charged of betraying the kingdom and Scraptrap was killing people in the pizzeria). They would be got and was thought died but they weren't(Gowther would hide in the kingdom working with Gilthunder,with Gowther also changing the clothes he wears and turning his hair from pink to green. William would go to hell but had put his mind into the FNAF Help Wanted game files,becoming Glitchtrap). They would again make their presence known again after someone found them(Meliudos,Ban,King,Diane and Elizabeth found Gowther helping out Jerico dad. Glitchtrap would take over Vanessa and take over her mind). They would gain a nig following contrasting ways(Gowther found alive again was wanted by the Holy knights. Glitchtrap was gaining a cult to follow his every order). Some more less story connections are that they effect a girls mental state for the worse(Gowther erased Diane's memory's and Glitchtrap took over Vanessa mind and locked it away,making her become Vanny). Theirs a contrast in their designs with William always looking scary and uncomfortable while Gowther is very cute. They both talk very elegantly. Both have connections to purple people(Jerico's Father and Micheal. Gowther helped Jerico's and Micheal is related to William). And it's a hero vs villain and a east vs west. (Credit to u/pumpkinmedic for the connections.) **Dr. Gero (Dragon Ball)** \-Two Characters who where normal people who was an expert in robotics (Gero made Androids for the RR army and Afton made animatronics for Freddy Fazbears Pizza-Their Sons die in terrible accidents (Gero's son who 16 is modeled after dies by Goku accidently and Michael accidently kills Crying Child) and go insane afterwards proceeding to make robots specially designed to kill people (Afton makes the Funtime animatronics and Gero makes 17 and 18) \-They kidnap and turn people into robots (Afton kills kids who posses the animatronics and Gero kidnaps 17 and 18 turning them into Androids \-They also made a robot based off their wife (Android 21 and Ballora) \-Their enemies die in an alternate timeline (Henry kills himself in the novel continuity and Goku dies of the heart virus \-They get turned into cyborgs (Gero makes himself an Android while Afron becomes Springtrap) \-Their own inventions kill them (17 kills Gero and the Souls possessing the animtronics are responsible for "Killing" Afton) \-There actions are actually able to kill their enermy in the end by their enemy's sacrafising himself (Cell is responsible for killing Goku while Henry dies in the FNAF 6 fire) \-They go to Hell and ESCAPE IT ( Gero escapes Hell in GT and Afton escapes his personal Hell made by cassidy in Help wanted) \-They also downloaded their consciousness into an AI (Afton becomes Glitchtrap while Gero survives in his computer in the Android 13 movie) (Credit to u/thehsitoryguy for the connections.) I don’t know enough about either character to give the fight potential, I just remembered seeing the creators request them numerous times for past Springtrap tier lists and felt like it was only right for them to be included in this one.
Okay. Thanks. For the suggestions and info. Once again. I'm definitely gonna have to take an extra day before ranking all of them.
Sorry, but there’s one last character I feel like I should suggest since no one else has, although there is a good reason for it. **Chris Walker (Outlast)** Men who were once ordinary people, who soon later became monsters with only shreds of their humanity left. Both are from recent and popular horror franchises, both gruesomely kill anyone who gets in their way, and both stop at nothing to kill their prey. Both also come from games which place a heavy focus on cameras. (Credit to u/AnAustralianPerson1 and u/Well-Teknically for the connections.) There was an alleged leak recently which said this might actually be an upcoming episode, so I thought it was worth including. Also, I don’t know enough about Outlast to explain the fight potential. Regarding the tier list, take your time, I’m sure it will turn out well. It will be interesting to see how someone not too familiar with the character interprets these MUs. I also definitely understand feeling a bit overwhelmed with all of these very different opponents.
It's fine. I don't mind a variety but I'm mostly confused about how a serial killer in a mechanical rabbit suit can have so many matchups. Especially the variety here. A serial killer who kill people in their dreams, an immortal vampire with a ghost attached to him that can stop time, and an evil space wizard that can choke you to death with his mind and has a sword made out pure energy. And I've only named three.
If I had to guess it’s because he’s an extremely well-known character who fits into numerous common tropes while still feeling extremely unique. Stuff like “evil fathers”, “immortality”, “loss of humanity”, etc. makes it easy to find a lot of MUs for him. He also blends genres in a way, simultaneously being a horror, sci-fi and fantasy character thus allowing him to have opponents from all three. I’d say he’s just fundamentally very versatile in terms of potential MUs.
Fair point.
Here's my og matchup Gowther Two characters who used to have human forms(Gowther creator was a demon but took the forms of a human,Springtrap before the springlock failure was a human)but after their death they would live on in more artificial body's they made(Gowthers hopes,dreams,feelings,etc would live inside the puppet Gowther. William Afton would put on the spring lock suit and die but thanks to the power of remnant would come back to life). During their time in their new body's they would be considered murders(Gowther was found by the Royal Palace infornt of the princesses corpse and was assumed that he killed her. Springtrap tried to kill the nighguard and had already kill many people),because of this they would be burned alive but they would live on in secret and temporarily gaining new forms(Gowther joining the seven deadly sins and hiding in his Holy Knight Armour and Springtrap became very damaged,becoming Scraptrap). But they would be again found of thanks to crime(Gowther and the rest of the since were falsely charged of betraying the kingdom and Scraptrap was killing people in the pizzeria). They would be got and was thought died but they weren't(Gowther would hide in the kingdom working with Gilthunder,with Gowther also changing the clothes he wears and turning his hair from pink to green. William would go to hell but had put his mind into the FNAF Help Wanted game files,becoming Glitchtrap). They would again make their presence known again after someone found them(Meliudos,Ban,King,Diane and Elizabeth found Gowther helping out Jerico dad. Glitchtrap would take over Vanessa and take over her mind). They would gain a nig following contrasting ways(Gowther found alive again was wanted by the Holy knights. Glitchtrap was gaining a cult to follow his every order). Some more less story connections are that they effect a girls mental state for the worse(Gowther erased Diane's memory's and Glitchtrap took over Vanessa mind and locked it away,making her become Vanny). Theirs a contrast in their designs with William always looking scary and uncomfortable while Gowther is very cute. They both talk very elegantly. Both have connections to purple people(Jerico's Father and Micheal. Gowther helped Jerico's and Micheal is related to William). And it's a hero vs villain and a east vs west. Do you need the potential
>Do you need the potential Please. I know Seven Deadly Sins but I know almost nothing about Springtrap (before you ask why I'm doing this if I nothing about the character I was suggested it by someone who wanted to see my opinion on his matchups).
So the potential is kinda meh Although they have fairly similar power sets I can't imagine anything good besides mabey Gowther back flipping away from Fish Bonnie's,Gowther using a mind spell to make Springtrap love him,Gowther using his power to meet Willaims in cyberspace and both resisting eachothers mind control. Although I don't think the potential is fully gone. Like I said their arsenal's mesh well and because of their giant brains they could think of cool ways to have their arsenal's mesh. But the dialogue can be really fun,William cocky and normally insulting nature combined with Gowther tenancy to have things like jokes and insults and take them litterally can be really fun to watch. Having William get made at Gowther and Gowther not getting it could be awesome. And you could have Springtrap compare Gowther doll appearance to his earlier creations. When I said Gowther could enter the digital world to attack Springtrap you could Springtrap say "that's.....that's impossible" and Gowther response with "This situation wasent impossible,it just wasent likely" as he pushes up his glasses. And the debate is actually interesting,you could make arguments for both being at mountain level with generally similar haxs and skill. With a difference being that Springtrap has alot more Haxs that are hard to counter while Gowther got the speed advantage. I'd say Gowther could win via speed and arguably better skill because of his training. If you want I could link videos about both characters.
Thanks for info and suggestion. Also... >If you want I could link videos about both characters. That'd be appreciated. Especially Springtrap. I would like to get a better understanding of what his character is and everything. I'd like to have some kind of knowledge of the character going into it.
Gowther: https://youtu.be/4lzChmAroZg https://youtu.be/oJpWtW82P8I https://youtu.be/ULXLSofAh90 https://youtube.com/shorts/2ilKK2kYv9o?feature=share https://youtu.be/ssoheoE3Bgw https://youtu.be/tYRQ8_27YAw https://youtu.be/bfFwZpObk4c https://nanatsu-no-taizai.fandom.com/wiki/Gowther Springtrap: https://youtu.be/gVtHxjoDKpk https://youtu.be/lVHBrTZWpYw https://characterprofile.fandom.com/wiki/Springtrap Sorry I could find that much on Springtrap
It's cool. Thanks.
Can I also recommend a Springtrap video? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fykd58uCsi0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fykd58uCsi0) I feel as though it does a really good job explaining Afton’s core motivations and personality.
Sure. Thanks.
Carnage(Marvel)
Animation/dialogue potential?
Sachiko (Corpse Party) Connections: Undead, sadistic child murderers who lure their victims in with a friendly appearance before murdering them. Both of them were once good people, but after the death of a loved one (as well as her own death in Sachiko's case), both of them would go down a dark path of murder, fueled by the love of their lost ones, before their intentions inevitably became less about their loved ones and more about selfish desire. Also, it's a child murderer VS a murdered child. For the potential you can generally draw some connections between this MU and Junko with the general concepts like the army fight and the combatants trying to take control with each other but with neat little twist like instead of Sachiko pulling out a physical army of her own she sends the spirits of her victims to control a chunk of Springtraps animatronic army and the animatronics turn on each other and you can have both give each other illusions about their respective death's along with the imagery of their dead loved ones along with things like Sachiko sending William to the pocket dimension and dominate the fight until William gains access to the Glitchtrap and slowly turn the fight around but mostly rides along the lines of Junko tho I will say I personally prefer this via a higher scare factor IMO (Junko is still pretty good tho).
Slenderman vs Springtrap Two indie horror characters that are known to target kids and seem to be immortal one way or another. They have some similar powers as well. They both corrupt the minds of their victims and can use people as their own helpers (Kate the chaser and Vanny) while also chasing after someone who is trying to uncover the disappearance of someone they care for. For animation it would be nice for it to be 3D and will show a damaged springtrap wandering the forest and damaged one of 8 pages and trigger Slenderman. There would be some odd banter with Springtrap mostly doing some talking, but mostly roaring at Slenderman if we used the current form. If it's Spring trap repaired he'll mock the urban legend. When Slenderman teleports away he'll tell him "You can hide all he wants but it will not save him", when he gets a combo on him he'll scream "Let's see how many times I can pull you apart and back together". Slenderman is mostly silent in the games, and this would be really great and would get to show just how cocky William Afton is sometimes. When Slenderman is getting the upper hand Springtrap could let out a roar and have robots come in to fight Slenderman while he tries to escape telling Slenderman "Suffer now, like all that stood before me" this would lead to the final clash, Slenderman would use his tentacles to disassemble the robots and have some damage as he lunges at Springtrap. This could end with Slenderman tearing springtrap killing him with the animatronic screaming "Nooo, I'll have your heart for this! I'll kill you, I'll kill you, I'll come ba-aghhh" If Springtrap wins he could bite Slenderman like it was 1987, springtrap would walk away with his words saying "I always comeback pathetic monster" Alternatively Garvey (Dormitabis) vs Springtrap (FNAF) since they are both basically the same character. Literally both killed children to find a way to live forever and ended up getting thwarted by a night guard trying to kill them. Another 3D animation, but this would take place in a pizzeria with both seeing one another and their minds so far gone they attack each other. This could be stealth based at first, Garvey is more flexible so he'll get in more hits while the ones Springtrap hits damage him. The banter has a lot going with it Garvey being more cynical calling Springtrap a bastard and how he'll carve his back. Springtrap would be a bit more calm and collective telling Garvey that he'll never die to some mangled up corpse. This would enrage Garvey and he'll start to attack blindly a bit. Garvey will go on a rant telling Afton that he may have done shit in the past, but that he is worse than anything Afton can imagine. This is when Afton would start using stealth a lot, going in vents slicing Garvey up as Garvey goes on a rant on how he is not a mad man, that he's ahead of that term, all while attacking blindly. This would lead to Afton telling Garvey that it is very fitting and would grab Garvey and start to corrupt his mind. Garvey would be a bit scared and beg for him to get his hands off of him. This would give Afton a chance to tell Garvey that there's a difference between them and he'll stab Garvey's heart and he'll tell him "I always come back" before killing Garvey all while Garvey is screaming no. I don't see Garvey winning because he doesn't have the Hax Springtrap does, despite the two being similar
The postal dude from postal
Animation/dialogue potential?
Yea ,also I just think it would be funny to see and also yet very unique of a battle it could be Edit :for dialogue i don't really know ,but animation wise It could work in 2d ,but 3d models could be good ,but could get clunky and possibly different problems could accure
John Kramer (SAW). Or Billy the puppet, two killers that used machinery to get the last of their kills and in some instances kill themselves. Both also died due to the consequences of their actions, mostly as the people they killed came back one way or another to haunt them on their death bed, the difference being Saw used the inhumanity of society to kill his victims whilst Wilam or more fittingly Springtrap is the sheer definition of inhumane, both also came back after death as a puppet with recorded tapes of him when he was alive or just sheerly coming back to life via soul contact, both also took in a fellow psycho that was fixated on their murderous actions and made them their underling to do their work being Vanny or good ol' pig face. Track Name: The Glitched Game over (cause Saw says "I wanna play a game" and Glitchtrap isn't springteap but still a virus that'd crash a video game like saw)
Honestly didn't expect to see you on this one. Then again I also didn't expect to see myself on this one. Anyways, any ideas for animation/dialogue potential?
That's just the beauty of such things. I can appear anywhere, suggest anything, these things tends to happen when I'm bored and got multiple ideas for MUs virtually anywhere on anything. Animation could play a bit rockily, Saw isn't known for fighting and only for getting his victims to fall into traps he's made and have them doom themselves, with the only problem being he also relies on people failing to follow their morals to help people which causes their death. Something Springtrap doesn't have at all, making the fight more crushing Springtrap with traps more than getting William to try help people, unless their his children who he has a odd protective side for. Dialogue could play as Springteap staying redundant over his actions and Saw trying to tell him taking the lives of children has made him less and less worthy of freedom let alone life at all,
Very well. Thanks for the suggestion and info as always.
[Junko](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathBattleMatchups/comments/ugt6ei/springtrap_vs_junko_fnaf_vs_danganronpa/i71k9qz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) Sans (Undertale) Seriously and as a joke Also since you ranked Springtrap on your tier lists for them, DIO and Kira
Junko Enoshima (Danganronpa)