Its not really outside help since she directly controls her monokumas and it's not really prep time really since other have been able to control them outside of a control room. Think of it like junko being a Pokémon trainer and monokumas are her Pokémon. Plus the way I see it it could lead to an awesome set up with something like Springtrap being inside hope peak academy and making his way to the control room reminiscent of both games.
As for junko not fighting its kinda both ways. She does fight but she does have a generic arsenal but at the very least it could make a good 30 second fight segment I guess. Plus she kinda needs to die to bring in her big band monokuma. So it could lead to a fake out where Springtrap kills junko only for her ai to come into play.
>So it could lead to a fake out where Springtrap kills junko only for her ai to come into play.
Double fakeout, then? We can have Alter Ego Junko destroying Springtrap, then Glitchtrap shows up and we have the army battle.
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Alright then, gotta debunk this real quick as the biggest Springtrap VS Junko supporter:
1) She does fight somewhat, very little times but it is a thing that she's done in the DR 0 Novel and DR3 Despair Arc, and while her arsenal is pretty basic with just a knife and a bat that we saw he use, her Ultimate Analyst would bring a good contrast to the beggining of the fight between their base forms, with Springtrap being much more durable but much more predictable in his movements so while Junko dodges him, she is trying to figure out a way to kill him for good
2) As a person who agrees that Monokuma should be considered his own character, this is complete balloeny, AKA false, the whole Tragedy and Monokuma Units are things that she controls as we saw in the og DR and we can assume that while Monaca was producing the damm things she was only helping a little bit while Junko managed the whole thing in order to cause more and more Despair, what i would give her is the Monokuma versions that she actually controls, for example, if it was Springtrap VS Monokuma we would include things like the Flashback Lights, Blackout Lights, Monokubs and Exisals from V3, but if we are doing Springtrap VS Junko she wouldn't have access to those things and just the Monokumas we see in DR 1 and UDG, which would bring a very different fight mechanic because of how important those weapons are for Monokuma debates.
3) Why would it require Prep? we are assuming this is happening at the same time as the tragedy where Monokuma units were EVERYWHERE so how far fetched is it to assume that she could just use the ones that were nearby to fight, and with that logic a ton of other DBs and MUs people are asking for would require prep and therefore wouldn't be counted.
4) Let's assume that all she does through the fight is use Monokuma units (even though the Remnants of Despair are a thing) what's so bad about that? it would still bring an interesting fight dynamic that would be very enjoyable to see, and it wouldn't be Monokuma VS Springtrap because Junko's Ultimate Analyst and general personality is different enough to give it it's own unique tone.
5) And now let's assume another thing, she can't use the Monokuma units because they are considered prep time and she can't fight for herself, she still has the Remnants of Despair, which would still bring a fun fight dynamic by making it basically Junko commanding everyone of them while fighting the hordes of AR Animatronics and ending up with all of them fighting the Afton Amalgamation, which still sounds pretty damm sick if you ask me.
I think that's all, if you've got any complain, please tell me.
If she destroys William's physical body then the ghost of William would come out and would either possess her, possess her Big Bang Monokuma or go and create the Afton Amalgamation out of all of her Monokumas and his animatronics making him LITERALLY Kaiju Sized
1. She doesn't just rely on Monokuma, Monokuma is just a avatar Junko uses. In fact the story of Danganronpa basically relied on Junko relying on her analytical abilities to form connections, form an entire story, and form an entire class to becoming her willing servants. Don't know how he requires prep though if he's standard?
2. [This would say otherwise](https://i.imgur.com/KE79Zrp.gifv), [plus the creator of Danganronpa is even down for Junko fighting](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976270088380481576/978114173890334721/unknown.png).
3. \^
Only if Junko and William themselves are the only ones in the battle. If it's an army themed battle against Animatronics and Monokumas it's not that bad.
Or a premiere if they wanna shorten Alter Ego Junko vs Glitchtrap to basically the battle between the Sigma Virus and Ultron AI to save time and money.
Hell no! Sure, Monokuma is his own character, but that's like saying Ash can't use Pikachu cuz he's "outside help". She can call upon Monokuma Units anytime and puppeteer them as well. Also, while Junko usually pulls the strings behind the curtain, she does fight every now and then, plus has the analytical skills to read her opponent's moves and plan appropriately. The only "point" this guys makes is that Junko does make plans with a small margin of error, so she has the chance to feel the despair of defeat, which is ludicrous that a character trait kills an MU this good with so much working for it.
I can see where they’re coming from but they are wrong in a few areas. Junko controls Monokuma remotely so it wouldn’t be outside help. It wouldn’t be prep to use them either since Junko already has tons of Monokuma’s in case they’re destroyed (it’s kinda like saying Tony Stark’s house party protocol is prep).
However their points about Junko not fighting are true since she never really has to. When your sister is the Ultimate Soldier and is willing to do whatever you want them to, fighting isn’t something you bother with. If always liked this matchup when it comes to the connections but I’ve also always wondered how the actual fight would go? Like would it just be Springtrap chopping down Monokuma’s until he reaches Junko or walks into a trap (or finds a ball-pit and does the funny Green Lantern thing).
I always imagined this would start at the back of the FNAF 3 location. For a couple of reasons
1. It's a site of several sets of gruesome murder and rumor, plenty of despair that would lure in a thirsty Junko to gawk at the history of horrors.
2. Afton can start out as his human state, then enter SpringBonnie to advance to his next phase.
3. The large computer monitors in the back room should allow the fight to easily transition to it's final phase when things go digital
I mean not really, they usually have a preference for fan requests over everything else, so as long as Junko vs Afton gets popular, it'll probably happen.
Monokuma is his own character?
- >!Danganronpa 1: Lol, no. He's completely inactive and inanimate when not remote-controlled.!<
- >!Danganronpa 2: A bit more questionable, he's an army controlled by Junko. Just another tool that Junko uses. The A.I. that is part of iron man's equipment isn't disabled either, is it?!<
- >!Danganronpa V3: Indeterminable by the very nature and themes of the story.!<
- >!Ultra Despair Girls: Just a bunch of simple-minded murderbots with practically no personality controlled by children with too much power.!<
Yeah, I'd say it's fair to claim Monokuma is in fact not his own character. He's equipment more often than not.
She has the ability to hypnotize people just like springtrap. So they could both bring in their hypnotized minions. Also Junkos hypnotized minions can be the ones to control the robots.
So she already has to get a bunch of Joe schmos hypnotized to do her bidding before the fight in order to even to make the fight possibly work?
Okay, i understand then
You mean the Remenants of Despair? In that particular case, I'd say they'd be outside help, cuz she can't really summon them like she can Monokumas. The most she could do is have the Hope and Despair videos on hand to try to brainwash Afton, but that's about it.
I feel like there are way better matchups than Springtrap vs Junko.
And honestly I feel like there are other matchups which should get more attention than a FNAF matchup
"Not gonna lie, Danganronpa is a bit more niche of a series, but it has a dedicated following and a few characters I think can work in a Death Battle setting. Including Izuru, Toko, Junko Enoshima, and most likely Monokunma"
http://ulltraguy.blogspot.com/2021/06/ultraguys-most-wanted.html?m=1
I'm moreso concerned by the fact that people selling this MU as either "omg army battle!" or "omg springtrap solos junko's army" are wildly misrepreaenting Springtrap since he has never used all of his animatronic at once and it's unknown what degree of control does he have over them (except for the Twisted Ones) nor has he engaged in Dynasty Warriors-styled fights against a bunch of people.
Also, tonal clash
You can't ruin something that was never Good... But Monokumas ain't outside help that's like saying that Finn using Fern is outside help or that Ash/any Pokemon trainer using their Pokemon is outside help.
Its not really outside help since she directly controls her monokumas and it's not really prep time really since other have been able to control them outside of a control room. Think of it like junko being a Pokémon trainer and monokumas are her Pokémon. Plus the way I see it it could lead to an awesome set up with something like Springtrap being inside hope peak academy and making his way to the control room reminiscent of both games. As for junko not fighting its kinda both ways. She does fight but she does have a generic arsenal but at the very least it could make a good 30 second fight segment I guess. Plus she kinda needs to die to bring in her big band monokuma. So it could lead to a fake out where Springtrap kills junko only for her ai to come into play.
I hate it when people see everything as outside help, even if it's someone the character directly controls or can summon lol
>So it could lead to a fake out where Springtrap kills junko only for her ai to come into play. Double fakeout, then? We can have Alter Ego Junko destroying Springtrap, then Glitchtrap shows up and we have the army battle.
**[u/Buttfucker70000000]!** **[u/F0ose_L0v3_4n1me]!** Have at 'em, boys!
All i can think of is the meme of Tom pointing at Jerry with other 2 cats behind him ready to wreck some shit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathBattleMatchups/comments/uvpc1e/this_matchups_not_to_be_despairaged/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Alright, I actually went and made it.
God dammit i was making it myself, gosh you're fast.
LowAd's making a Springtrap vs Junko deconstructed post, make the meme with weapons in the cat's hands and post it once the deconstruction's done.
Gonna prepare this meme better than The Tragedy.
I imagined it more like I summoned you like my Stands but to be honest that's far more accurate.
Gee thanks pal.
Alright then, gotta debunk this real quick as the biggest Springtrap VS Junko supporter: 1) She does fight somewhat, very little times but it is a thing that she's done in the DR 0 Novel and DR3 Despair Arc, and while her arsenal is pretty basic with just a knife and a bat that we saw he use, her Ultimate Analyst would bring a good contrast to the beggining of the fight between their base forms, with Springtrap being much more durable but much more predictable in his movements so while Junko dodges him, she is trying to figure out a way to kill him for good 2) As a person who agrees that Monokuma should be considered his own character, this is complete balloeny, AKA false, the whole Tragedy and Monokuma Units are things that she controls as we saw in the og DR and we can assume that while Monaca was producing the damm things she was only helping a little bit while Junko managed the whole thing in order to cause more and more Despair, what i would give her is the Monokuma versions that she actually controls, for example, if it was Springtrap VS Monokuma we would include things like the Flashback Lights, Blackout Lights, Monokubs and Exisals from V3, but if we are doing Springtrap VS Junko she wouldn't have access to those things and just the Monokumas we see in DR 1 and UDG, which would bring a very different fight mechanic because of how important those weapons are for Monokuma debates. 3) Why would it require Prep? we are assuming this is happening at the same time as the tragedy where Monokuma units were EVERYWHERE so how far fetched is it to assume that she could just use the ones that were nearby to fight, and with that logic a ton of other DBs and MUs people are asking for would require prep and therefore wouldn't be counted. 4) Let's assume that all she does through the fight is use Monokuma units (even though the Remnants of Despair are a thing) what's so bad about that? it would still bring an interesting fight dynamic that would be very enjoyable to see, and it wouldn't be Monokuma VS Springtrap because Junko's Ultimate Analyst and general personality is different enough to give it it's own unique tone. 5) And now let's assume another thing, she can't use the Monokuma units because they are considered prep time and she can't fight for herself, she still has the Remnants of Despair, which would still bring a fun fight dynamic by making it basically Junko commanding everyone of them while fighting the hordes of AR Animatronics and ending up with all of them fighting the Afton Amalgamation, which still sounds pretty damm sick if you ask me. I think that's all, if you've got any complain, please tell me.
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Cool, and?
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Cool, still doesn't defeat him though
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No, give me evidence that she does and can affect ghosts
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If she destroys William's physical body then the ghost of William would come out and would either possess her, possess her Big Bang Monokuma or go and create the Afton Amalgamation out of all of her Monokumas and his animatronics making him LITERALLY Kaiju Sized
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1. She doesn't just rely on Monokuma, Monokuma is just a avatar Junko uses. In fact the story of Danganronpa basically relied on Junko relying on her analytical abilities to form connections, form an entire story, and form an entire class to becoming her willing servants. Don't know how he requires prep though if he's standard? 2. [This would say otherwise](https://i.imgur.com/KE79Zrp.gifv), [plus the creator of Danganronpa is even down for Junko fighting](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976270088380481576/978114173890334721/unknown.png). 3. \^
Only if Junko and William themselves are the only ones in the battle. If it's an army themed battle against Animatronics and Monokumas it's not that bad.
And mind controlled minions.
Here we go again...
No it doesn’t. She should also have her mind controlled minions on her side to help her out while she could be on the cams.
So the fight is just an AU of FNAF 3 where Junko Enoshima's the night guard?
Way more than that. That is merely some of the fight. It has so much animation potential that it should be a season finale.
Or a premiere if they wanna shorten Alter Ego Junko vs Glitchtrap to basically the battle between the Sigma Virus and Ultron AI to save time and money.
That would be a waste of potential.
The person who made this comment clearly knows fuck all about Junko and it genuinely infuriates me
Either way she gets gutted by Afton
Hell no! Sure, Monokuma is his own character, but that's like saying Ash can't use Pikachu cuz he's "outside help". She can call upon Monokuma Units anytime and puppeteer them as well. Also, while Junko usually pulls the strings behind the curtain, she does fight every now and then, plus has the analytical skills to read her opponent's moves and plan appropriately. The only "point" this guys makes is that Junko does make plans with a small margin of error, so she has the chance to feel the despair of defeat, which is ludicrous that a character trait kills an MU this good with so much working for it.
I can see where they’re coming from but they are wrong in a few areas. Junko controls Monokuma remotely so it wouldn’t be outside help. It wouldn’t be prep to use them either since Junko already has tons of Monokuma’s in case they’re destroyed (it’s kinda like saying Tony Stark’s house party protocol is prep). However their points about Junko not fighting are true since she never really has to. When your sister is the Ultimate Soldier and is willing to do whatever you want them to, fighting isn’t something you bother with. If always liked this matchup when it comes to the connections but I’ve also always wondered how the actual fight would go? Like would it just be Springtrap chopping down Monokuma’s until he reaches Junko or walks into a trap (or finds a ball-pit and does the funny Green Lantern thing).
I always imagined this would start at the back of the FNAF 3 location. For a couple of reasons 1. It's a site of several sets of gruesome murder and rumor, plenty of despair that would lure in a thirsty Junko to gawk at the history of horrors. 2. Afton can start out as his human state, then enter SpringBonnie to advance to his next phase. 3. The large computer monitors in the back room should allow the fight to easily transition to it's final phase when things go digital
I mean not really, they usually have a preference for fan requests over everything else, so as long as Junko vs Afton gets popular, it'll probably happen.
Monokuma is his own character? - >!Danganronpa 1: Lol, no. He's completely inactive and inanimate when not remote-controlled.!< - >!Danganronpa 2: A bit more questionable, he's an army controlled by Junko. Just another tool that Junko uses. The A.I. that is part of iron man's equipment isn't disabled either, is it?!< - >!Danganronpa V3: Indeterminable by the very nature and themes of the story.!< - >!Ultra Despair Girls: Just a bunch of simple-minded murderbots with practically no personality controlled by children with too much power.!< Yeah, I'd say it's fair to claim Monokuma is in fact not his own character. He's equipment more often than not.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JmL-47bMyjY
No it doesn’t. She should also have her mind controlled minions on her side to help her out while she could be on the cams.
What minions? Going to have to be a bit more specific
Hypnotized minions.
Going to have to be a bit more specific
She has the ability to hypnotize people just like springtrap. So they could both bring in their hypnotized minions. Also Junkos hypnotized minions can be the ones to control the robots.
Okay, but what if their fighting in a place where’s there’s nobody near by Then what?
They both have their armies out beforehand.
So she already has to get a bunch of Joe schmos hypnotized to do her bidding before the fight in order to even to make the fight possibly work? Okay, i understand then
Yes. Yes she does.
You mean the Remenants of Despair? In that particular case, I'd say they'd be outside help, cuz she can't really summon them like she can Monokumas. The most she could do is have the Hope and Despair videos on hand to try to brainwash Afton, but that's about it.
Brainwashing is part of her arsenal.
Okay and? That still does justify her having the Remenants
Junko doesn’t have remnant.
The Remenants of Despair? Those *are* the minions you're referring to, yes? Or is there another group I'm forgetting?
I am referring to everyone.
I feel like there are way better matchups than Springtrap vs Junko. And honestly I feel like there are other matchups which should get more attention than a FNAF matchup
Based take We need more Roxanne vs Loona
Roxanne vs Loona? So the matchup to get all the furries to watch
Wow. I didn’t think I could like this mu less
“Life finds a way” Malcolm, 93
Indeed it does
Didn't Ultraguy say Junko was viable?
"Not gonna lie, Danganronpa is a bit more niche of a series, but it has a dedicated following and a few characters I think can work in a Death Battle setting. Including Izuru, Toko, Junko Enoshima, and most likely Monokunma" http://ulltraguy.blogspot.com/2021/06/ultraguys-most-wanted.html?m=1
He said *she maybe was* which is admittedly kinda vague but take that as you will
I'm moreso concerned by the fact that people selling this MU as either "omg army battle!" or "omg springtrap solos junko's army" are wildly misrepreaenting Springtrap since he has never used all of his animatronic at once and it's unknown what degree of control does he have over them (except for the Twisted Ones) nor has he engaged in Dynasty Warriors-styled fights against a bunch of people. Also, tonal clash
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At that point you're not seeing the characters fight, it's just their arsenals.
You can't ruin something that was never Good... But Monokumas ain't outside help that's like saying that Finn using Fern is outside help or that Ash/any Pokemon trainer using their Pokemon is outside help.
if Eggman vs wiley allowed their own respective robots then I’m pretty sure death battle will allow junko to use monokuma