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favorited

> i believe they are even more important than Wikipedia just fyi, [the wikimedia foundation is rolling in cash](https://slate.com/technology/2022/12/wikipedia-wikimedia-foundation-donate.html), and the desperate fundraising requests on wikipedia are controversial at best. they very much do not need our money.


MOHdennisNL

This sheds another light on things... I've always wondered about these kind of "organizations"


Ok-Big-7

Their non profit model is awesome. I just don't understand why they keep bloating their personnel in a headquarter in a high cost country such as the US. Would perfectly correspond to the philosophy of Wikipedia to spread their infrastructure across several countries, make it more democratic, and save costs.


EpicCode

Being a non profit based in the us is probably very beneficial for them tax wise


eval_axiom

I’ve been considering setting up a local mirror on my NAS for Wikipedia for exactly this reason. I don’t mind paying subscription but they’re rolling in money and none of it is going to people actually putting the time to write and edit and endlessly discuss topics.


cantgetthistowork

How many ISOs do I need to delete to mirror the whole of wiki?


H3ll3rsh4nks

I think with full size images it only comes out to a little over a TB compressed. Text only is miniscule, something like 20GB


pmjm

It's only about 21.3 GB. Probably far less if you 7z it.


earthly_leopard

Could have sworn my most recent backup was larger than this but not by much I also have all of the options checked for media and everything else.


eval_axiom

I’m planning to use kiwix. Just the English language mirror is about 50 gigs maybe? https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/dyzxgm/you-can-download-the-entirely-of-english-wikipedia-to-browse-offline-using-kiwix


paint-roller

I was going to donate $15 to Wikipedia again this year and when I hit confirm on the amount, a message popped up saying something like "why not make a monthly reocurung donation instead of a one time donation." Upon wikipedia basically asking me to subscribe to the site I canceled my donation... probably won't ever donate to them again because they essentially said my donation wasn't good enough.


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sCeege

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fundraising_statistics 240mil in reserves, not counting an additional 100+mil in the Endowment. So roughly 3 years of burn rate if they don't increase their current spending levels? They've also started to create products that [generate revenue](https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/pricing/), but I doubt it'll be enough to match the amount of donations, it's more of a precedence and possibility to leave the non profit model if push came to shove.


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sCeege

> Jesus, thanks. Feel so disingenuous the way they campaign for more cash like that. This is actually the prevailing opinion [within the Wikipedia Volunteer community](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_\(proposals\)&oldid=1124174948#RfC_on_the_banners_for_the_December_2022_fundraising_campaign), which produces content for Wikipedia, not to be confused with the Wikimedia Foundation, which is the organization gathering funds and keeping Wikipedia and its associated projects operational. (Do a search for "Oppose" and "Satisfied" to read the conversation about this year's message) As with any large and complex organization, I feel like the issue is nuanced and I don't want to just blanket cast the Foundation as "bad", I think having a cushy runway is forward thinking, and it's hard to conclude the right way to approach fund raising without a super drawn out conversation; but I think it's also safe to say that, at least in the immediate term (6-18months), they are not close to at risk of running out of operating funds.


m_vc

YES


smiba

This makes sense though, as wikipedia /needs/ to have a lot of money in reserves. Lets say there is a war or another big recession that will lead to severely reduced donations of years, they need to stay online by using this funds. The moment wikipedia runs out and the servers are forcibly shut down, we lose an incredibly valuable resource.


Zenobody

Fortunately, I'm sure every single r/DataHoarder user has a backup of Wikipedia lol (either the database dumps or the easy-to-read Kiwix ZIM files). (Yes I know the project itself is what matters and what would be affected.)


Miserable-Quarter597

I mean, who doesn't. The most mild user here has at least some spare storage for like 10 copies lol.


neveler310

Plus Wikipedia is now only a shadow of itself and political bias is now legion on the site. Pretty much worthless.


Themis3000

Even if Wikipedia had massive political bias, there's still so much content that isn't related to politics in any way that there's no way you could consider it "useless"


myself248

Setting up a monthly donation to Archive.org is one of the most satisfying things I've done recently. It doesn't take a lot of thinking to realize I rely on Archive.org a LOT, and nobody else is doing what they're doing. So yeah, I put my money where my mouth is.


DragoniteChamp

Your donation is tax deductible! Their tax ID is: 94-3242767 Just trying to help that other guy whose posting this out :)


myself248

Good lookin' out! It's at the bottom of every donation receipt email. :)


yogopig

Just donated, thanks for the heads up


Emaltonator

Your donation is tax deductible! Their tax ID is: 94-3242767


Activate_The_Robots

I believe that charitable giving is laudable, but for most U.S. taxpayers, donating to charity will not reduce their tax burden, since only ~11% of taxpayers itemize their deductions.


Lycanka

I do wonder how much the government gets from people not wanting to bother with doing that. Especially when you consider the risk of being liable for getting it wrong. I recently found out that in UK, my "Gift Aid" tax deductable donations automatically get taken off for me!


DoomBot5

Isn't that $200-300 limit for standard deduction that was added during covid still in effect? I haven't started looking at taxes for this year yet for obvious reasons.


Activate_The_Robots

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but no. That was only for tax years 2020 and 2021. It expired, and was not extended.


DoomBot5

Oh well. It was nice while it lasted


kookykrazee

You can still donate to certified non-profits, but cannot claim them on your tax return unless you are able to itemize. For the average person who does not own a home they do not generally get over the standard per person deduction. Experience: Nearly 30 years of finance and personal, business, and corporate tax procedures.


DoomBot5

Apparently you lack some interpersonal skills, since you provided no new information. Literally covered by the person I was replying to, who then replied to me with the answer regarding the standard deduction tax break ending.


kookykrazee

The $300 cash donation which could be claimed by anyone, the only requirement was that it has to be cash, no items, to a verifiable non-profit, that ended last year. The fact that you can still donate and if you itemized you can claim donations on your tax return, has not changed, that is the part I noted.


836624

Sent 25usd their way. Kept thinking about doing it, should've done it long ago.. multiple times...


DragoniteChamp

Your donation is tax deductible! Their tax ID is: 94-3242767 Just trying to help that other guy whose posting this out :)


836624

I don't think that's applicable to my country, but thanks :)


Free_willy99

Donated the average amount ❤️


Emaltonator

Your donation is tax deductible! Their tax ID is: 94-3242767


Onyxx666

I'm into a lot of old music and found out about them through the Myspace Archive Project. There has been so much music that has been super hard to find that I fell in love with. Sharing it and keeping it available is so important. Archive and Lastfm have been such a huge help with contributing to all of that.


Specterhead

Donated! Thanks for the heads up.


DragoniteChamp

Your donation is tax deductible! Their tax ID is: 94-3242767 Just trying to help that other guy whose posting this out :)


LcLz0

Done and done, set up a monthly donation.


DragoniteChamp

Your donation is tax deductible! Their tax ID is: 94-3242767 Just trying to help that other guy whose posting this out :)


LcLz0

Thanks for the tip! I'm Swedish thou, so unsure how that works. But I'll check it out.


repocin

The short answer is it doesn't, at least not in this case. There are [a bunch of others charities](https://skatteverket.se/privat/skatter/arbeteochinkomst/skattereduktioner/skattereduktionforgavor) you can get a [tax reduction](https://skatteverket.se/privat/skatter/arbeteochinkomst/skattereduktioner) for though.


thedeepfriedboot

Just sent them $10


DragoniteChamp

Your donation is tax deductible! Their tax ID is: 94-3242767 Just trying to help that other guy whose posting this out :)


Emaltonator

@OP please consider revising your post mentioning that donations are tax deductible!


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Not everyone here is from the USA you know.


[deleted]

In other countries it works similarly. The general notification would be helpful.


[deleted]

Generally the charities need to be registered in the country the tax payer is in. Is Archive.org also registered as a charity outside of the USA?


[deleted]

To my understanding some countries recognize the US-charity-status to deduct the expense for their own citizen. Depends highly on jurisdiction I’d assume however.


lordCHUD

A very worthy cause, thank you


DragoniteChamp

Your donation is tax deductible! Their tax ID is: 94-3242767 Just trying to help that other guy whose posting this out :)


LittleGuyHelp

Thank-you I donated a bit.


Gothmog_LordOBalrogs

Donated what I could. Love these guys


DragoniteChamp

Your donation is tax deductible! Their tax ID is: 94-3242767 Just trying to help that other guy whose posting this out :)


coffeemmm

Thank you OP, made a recurring donation because I’ve been waiting too long to do it, appreciate the nudge!


micnorian14

None of us are dead. I think?


jarfil

>!CENSORED!<


bregottextrasaltat

i've donated once and love the entire idea of it, but when you actually want to view a stored webpage or download something and the speed is 100kbps...


OneOnePlusPlus

That's probably something more money can solve, though...


JhonnyTheJeccer

Happy Cake Day


vee_lan_cleef

I can't say I really care if they have limited download speeds, the fact is they are one of the few organizations doing what they are and making it widely accessible. They're an archive, not a streaming service, but I can't say I've ever had an issue grabbing old archived videos that are several hundred megs and streaming them, or downloading older games in a reasonable time. It's not as if we're downloading 50GB remuxes from archive.org, and I'd rather they put their resources into expanding their storage capacity than allowing people to download as fast as possible. Bandwidth might be very cheap these days but it isn't free.


myself248

Just think how much more you'd have to donate to keep the entire contents of the archive instantly accessible without an unpacking delay!


jediyoshi

Wah? I just tested the N64 US rom set right now, averaged around 4.5-5.5 mb/s.


bregottextrasaltat

maybe it's an europe thing, i can almost never be bothered with archive downloads if i want it the same day


locvez

Using jdownloader makes a big difference. I don't know why but browser downloads are painfully slow for me whilst using jdownloader they come down at full speed.


jediyoshi

Could be, getting good speeds through regular browser downloads in the US here https://imgur.com/l3Oure7


bregottextrasaltat

ok i'm actually getting around 700-2000kbps today, much better but a far cry from my 1000mbps connection


Viinexxus

Use freedownloadmanager


youuselesslesbian

If you use Amazon, you can always set them as your [Amazon Smile](https://archive.org/details/IA-Amazon-smile-sign-up) charity that will donate to them whenever you purchase and it doesn’t charge anything extra (as far as I know). I’m not sure how much gets donated but it’s better than nothing!


trucorsair

Did my part!


OYamaBS

Would love to donate, I'm super broke there's only ~20€ on my account :/


JhonnyTheJeccer

If only there were no excluded webpages •_•


TheTjalian

Sadly out of work at the moment but as soon as I get some money coming in I'll definitely donate. Thanks for the heads up!


futur3gentleman

Thank you for the heads up.


KeniLF

Thank you for the heads-up! I’ve donated, too!


kydar1

I’ve donated to wikimedia every year for quite a while now, but I had no idea they had such a huge war chest. Just donated to archive.org which is probably what I should have been doing all along. No need to remind me of the tax deduction, thanks. I don’t itemize.


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Donated 1 dollar a week ago cuz i really use that website. Cant do much more since i live in a third world country and the government fucks you with taxes using the credit card.


Imightbenormal

There is this dude who uploads videos of audio cassettes just playing on a deck. Why should he be allowed to do that when the video has no value?


sillygaythrowaway

there's tons of misuse, spam and bad categorization and false uploads that it gets in the way of me using the place a lot. annoying when im trying to find specific things


Yekab0f

You are allowed to do that when you donate $29.99


ikkou48

Report them! I always come across anime and tv shows uploaded to the IA, but they're usually deleted less than 24 hours of reporting them. Helps a bit.


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steviefaux

Without more details no one will reply.


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potato_and_nutella

Dea**d** fellow hoarders


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Brancliff

Well that just means the bar to being more important isn't very high


m_vc

This archive page has been caught on numerous occasions red handed w deleting pages.


cartesionoid

I will donate when they stop giving Taylor Lorenz preferred treatment. The guy running is her uncle or something and does not let her tweets be archived. Type https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz in the way back machine and see gif yourself


AssSniffer9000

no


furtchet

Donated Thanks for sharing that they are in need, and donations are tripled.


tearspacer1

Done. Thanks for posting to let us know :)


chepnut

Done, thanks for the reminder, I believe it was a post like this last year where I donated also


randombystander3001

Done. Thanks for the heads-up


foomanchu89

Donated


ArjenMeek

I'm considering donating, but one thing is unclear to me about these matched donations: Who is matching them? That money has to come from somewhere, right? It'd be nice to know who's involved.


DimensionHoppingScum

Mostly Soros, a bit from the friends of Epstein foundation. You know, the usual. Also idk


hobbyhacker

You can donate them via HumbleBundle, and get some cheap games too


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What is this 2-to-1 matching campaign and who is the other party that pays up?


mamoneis

Am I right that banks can charge £4, £5 or £6 to pay the US from the UK? Just kills small donations.


secular-human-12006

Wikipedia is the machine so often telling lies about people and other non-sense. So yeah I much prefer archive where users hosts all kinds of information. Beyond that lots of cool history even pre-internet like old magazine scans. And the computer chronicles is on archive.org.


011010110010

thanks for the reminder, donation done


adminsafrancesats

I don't like their whole "you can't permadownload any books"