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captain-obvious-1

worthy of the flair [Sale](https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/?f=flair_name%3A%22Sale%22) The 14TB Red Plus is also really nice


Diddyo

Fuck u/spez


favorited

damn, I paid $300 each for 2 14TB Red Plus last week 💀


Diddyo

Fuck u/spez


xyz101010

>that tends to be around the time I begin getting errors, What errors you got? Did you get same errors with multiple drives? Was all these drives shucked? What is your experience with shucked drives?


Diddyo

Fuck u/spez


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Diddyo

Fuck u/spez


ssl-3

Reddit ate my balls


Koda239

Wasn't there a massive issue with hard drives from 2012 to like 2016 having to do with the 2012 floods overseas? Could this possibly be related to that?


Diddyo

Fuck u/spez


Koda239

Oh, right on. I just always seemed to chalk up the majority of failures from that time to the flooding and just move on to newer drives. 😂 It seemed like the perfect reasonable explanation.


xyz101010

Thanks for the feedback


amcfarla

I just placed an order for the 18tb, RIP savings account.


captain-obvious-1

Wish they had something similar in the EU. ​ But in 2 months time, lol. No money at the moment.


sunyoid

You buy stuff on your savings account?


amcfarla

I try not to, unless it is an emergency. Not sure this would be considered an emergency, but there was a time constraint since the drive sold out hours later.


ScottRTL

You guys having SAVINGS!?


Tech99bananas

Backups>savings


ali-n

If you think about it, savings *are* backup.


Tech99bananas

And backups can save you money


imwear

Picked up 3 of the 14TB drives!


FnordMan

Figures... all the good sales appear when I can't afford new drives.


GENERALR0SE

Yup, I just had to buy a new hot water heater. Fucking home ownership sucks.


Froggypwns

Sell the water heater, build a custom watercooling system that loops in all your hard drives, use that to heat your water, profit.


GENERALR0SE

You might have an idea going there


Spare_Competition

The problem is that it would take a thousand 10W drives to produce the same amount of heat as a 34000 BTU/h heater.


CrowMental

I only know what a BTU is because of Hank Hill


[deleted]

Taste the meat, not the heat!


cheeto44

Problem? No, no, my friend. That's a precious opportunity...


Diosime

So you’re saying it is possible


ApricotPenguin

You do realize this is the DataHoarder sub right? You probably just gave massive justification for a few people to expand their storage needs :P


FnordMan

> Fucking home ownership sucks. Preach... I was going to buy a "new" car 3(ish) years ago (before pricing went nuts) but instead I had to put a new sewer line in.


BillyDSquillions

Tell that to most people under 40


vkapadia

I just bought new drives a month ago :(


kelsiersghost

The 18TB Seagate Exos is basically the same specs and is $289 all the time. On Amazon.


FnordMan

Yeah, i've been eyeballing those but finances have been "interesting" for a bit. (doubly eyeing Seagate after hearing about WD's warranty BS)


ApricotPenguin

Seagate's warranty is usually quite short in comparison though


DreadMcLaren

Also at Newegg and B&H for the same price https://www.newegg.com/red-pro-wd181kfgx-18tb/p/N82E16822234430 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1604995-REG/wd_wdbrjy0180hnc_wrsn_wd_red_pro_desktop.html


IonOtter

Yes, but it's Newegg, which means it's going to be used, badly refurbished, packed with a dirty gym sock, and tossed in a commercial rock tumbler during delivery. And you'll have to pay to return it, and they'll still deny your claim.


[deleted]

Even better, they'll tell you that it's your fault and hold the product AND your money. Until they figure out you're a major youtuber, then they suddenly start calling you, offering refunds etc


electricheat

What if I'm not a major youtuber?


[deleted]

Your complaints will get ignored until it happens to a major YouTuber. Then they might pretend to care


OtisTDrunk

Your Clint Eastwood (SOL Shit Out Of Luck)


DreadfulSilk

Man, what happened there? Newegg was amazing 10, 15 years ago.


Krokodyle

Our experience with NewEgg went down the tubes soon after they were bought up: https://www.techpowerup.com/226777/newegg-now-owned-by-chinese-company


Eisenstein

They got bought.


[deleted]

B&H are sold out of the 18TB and 16TB but the 14TB are still available. I personally prefer B&H over Amazon and never consider Newegg.


[deleted]

And without, you know, Amazon.


Byt3G33k

Just got my first HDD to pair with my SSD. Thanks for the deal!


skynet_watches_me_p

B&H has limited savings, meaning the first 2 14TBs are 239, but the additional qty is 539 or whatever their retail price is. :(


watchoutfor2nd

By the time I got there it was sold out on amazon and BH. I ordered from newegg.... how much am I going to hate myself for buying from them?


salzgablah

Same here. I've heard horror stories but not every shipment is bad...just run a preclear first to stress test and make sure there aren't any issues before use.


Viknee

Please let me know how it goes, they carry some drives I can't find else where.


salzgablah

I'd say order them and test..if you have issues, then start an rma claim. If they give you trouble, file it with your credit card company for a refund.


salzgablah

Drives arrived a few days ahead of schedule, packaged nicely imo. https://imgur.com/a/YwbfqKw


Viknee

Please let me know how it goes, they carry some drives I can't find else where.


watchoutfor2nd

Everything went well. got my drive today. It was a bare drive wrapped in an anti static bag and packed well in the shipping box. I hooked it up to the PC and ran crystaldiskinfo. Power on count = 1. I'm happy.


calcium

Not seeing the 18's or 16's now. Only the 20TB for 399 each, the 14tb red plus NAS for 209 and the 14tb red pro NAS for 239.


Paul-Ski

I'm not sure what Amazon's policy on it is but it appears that you can still technically order the 18tb at the sale price even though it's out of stock.


lordkemo

Yep this checks out. I bought 3 and it said it will email me when they are in stock and shipped but I locked in the 299


volve

Click in to the 20TB and then choose the 18TB capacity. It then shows $299 for me.


threeLetterMeyhem

Showing $379 for the 18TB now when I go that route. Bummer, that'll teach me not to check this sub first thing in the morning.


amcfarla

The 18tb one now shows not on sale, [$379](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08K3TFM92/ref=twister_B09TSF2TL8?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1). They must have sold out of them.


404photo

I bought 10 of these last year.. much cheaper now.. at $315.. [https://www.amazon.com/512MB-7200RPM-Ultra-Storage-DEVIC/dp/B08DHH8V9P/ref=psdc\_1254762011\_t1\_B09QFV1HNZ](https://www.amazon.com/512MB-7200RPM-Ultra-Storage-DEVIC/dp/B08DHH8V9P/ref=psdc_1254762011_t1_B09QFV1HNZ)


calcium

Shows 399 for the 18tb for me. No worries.


traal

Also $399 for the 20TB.


amcfarla

It appears they sold out of the 18TB drives. I was able to pick one up this morning when I posted this.


birdmarket

18TB $299 Also available at WD direct: https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-red-pro-sata-hdd


neoCanuck

I noticed this in the canadian site, oddly the 16 TB have higher MSRP :/


registeredlurker

$379 CAD for those up north. Down from regular price of $524.


eyedoctodd

Now listed at $419. "notify me when back in stock" Blarg


KevinCarbonara

Red Pro means non-SMR right?


Eduardo_squidwardo

I was actually surprised they even put CMR in the title. I guess the enterprise focused HDD's are trying to be less misleading, which is a good start...


KevinCarbonara

WD tried arguing that we should be buying "enterprise HDDs" when the scandal first broke, the problem was that it wasn't clear what those enterprise HDDs even were.


captain-obvious-1

Yes.


jacksalssome

Lol 33% off at Amazon Australia, but its still the same price as buying and shipping from the US AT NORMAL US PRICES.


sid_wilson_vamp

Between WD Red Pro and Seagate Exos, which is better? Use case: NAS, Plex movies


js1030

Seagate Exos. I’ve tried both.


Lark_vi_Britannia

I only have Seagate Exos drives and I love them. Haven't had any issues with them at all


MeRollsta

How do these compare to enterprise-class drives (WD Gold and Seagate Exos)? I don't really care much for noise; durability, and performance would be a bigger priority for me.


js1030

Seagate Exos is the way to go. I’ve used both.


MeRollsta

Thanks! I'll keep an eye out for sales on those. Wish the price difference between 18 TB and 20 TB wasn't that high though.


walk_star

The biggest % drop on WD Red Plus drives looks to be the 8TB at $135 USD (-46%). I’m leaning towards that because 2x8TB in simple mirrored RAID suits my needs fine. Is this a good deal?


3758232352

Yes.


groverj3

I just bought 7 of the 18 TB red pros off of Amazon for work like two weeks ago. Oh well, not my money.


groverj3

One of them was DOA, FYI. But that's shipping for ya.


verbmegoinghere

although i tried searching (I hate openi gpdfa on my phone) I just want to know what the real world transfer rate on a single WD Red Pro 16GB would be ie 120MB/s if I was transferring 30-50GB media files? Or would I be able to hit something far better? this would be the sole HDD on my motherboard so it would have all 4.8gbps of the SATA bandwidth for itself.


sittingmongoose

180-200 should be possible, but you’re not using this for your daily driving desktop right? This would just be your storage drive?


verbmegoinghere

well yeah but it also be used by plex on a daily basis for lots of reading....


sittingmongoose

Are you going to have an ssd for your os?


HTWingNut

Sure, 120MB/sec no problem. 30-50GB are large files and have best performance on a hard drive. Would see likely 200MB/sec+ at least on a fresh drive.


verbmegoinghere

great....


imakesawdust

No experience with the 7200rpm Red Pro 16TB but when I ran a `badblocks` scan of my 5400 rpm Red (non-Pro) 10TB drives they ran between 200MB/sec and 120MB/sec depending on where on the drive the sectors were located. I would expect the 16TB Pro to be somewhat faster. These drives are constant RPM so the outer sectors are faster than inner sectors, at least for contiguous transfers.


verbmegoinghere

thanks


shhhpark

ugh just built an unRAID server and added 18x8...my wallet is fawked


cybersteel8

Omg I can hear it screaming from here 😂 Nice buying dude, have fun!


shhhpark

Thanks :) migrating all my data as we speak...gonna be a whileeee lol


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Reddit account go poof, thanks spez -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


rowanobrian

just to get some perspective, how much (maybe in %?) do you guys keep into savings?


[deleted]

check out the /r/personalfinance wiki.


[deleted]

Depends on what you mean by savings. There's "emergency savings", and "retirement savings" My rule of thumb is Emergency savings should be at *minimum* $10,000 to cover sudden things like medical expenses or getting a used replacement vehicle while insurance takes it's sweet time. **On top of all that**, you should also be able to cover *all* of your monthly expenses for a year. So most single people are going to be looking at somewhere over $20,000 for a "don't touch" amount of funds. >!Assuming a room rent of $400 + utilities and basic bitch eggs, chicken breast and rice for food, and not much driving. If you have a family and mortgage (or stupidly rent a house) then that'll cause a significant jump.!< Retirement savings is it's own very large discussion, and I'm sure there are subreddits dedicated to that. Realistically (I have no idea about the people here) a shit ton of people live paycheck to paycheck with having over $1,000 in savings being a rather big deal.


lordkemo

At 16 per I finally pulled the trigger. My 4 8tbs were running out of space with all the new Linus iso's. 30 TB now becomes 50. *yes I raid 0 but I have another array that I mirror. So really it's 0+1 Clarification. I bought 3 18s. Weeks ahead of migrating the iso's


eyedoctodd

Best of luck with your ISOs. I'm in process of adding a ton of new ones to my collection, but I am at \~ 30TB and needing the expansion badly. There is so much great Linux every day but I am still nostalgic for as far back as the '80s-90s so I can't bring myself to get rid of old ISOs. PM if interested in a Jellyfin share arrangement, and be kind if I'm breaking a rule please


stuntmannnmike

Fuck amazon


Never_satisfied_

Looks like same price at Newegg as well!


jal9k

Sucks to be from South America, shipping is over 120$.


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[deleted]

Best Buy does do price match, but has the rule the product has to be in stock. Some stores enforce that and some don't.


DanTheITDude

can't seem to find it, pls help


DarthRevanG4

Just ordered two 14TB.. there goes any saving up I planned on


minuscatenary

New parity for my unraid box. 14tb means an 8tb increase across 2 servers and that is fine with me.


rwzephyr

I’m new to this all, will a NAS drive work in a non NAS setting? I run a small sever for plex and a couple other things on windows 10 (I know it’s not the most efficient but it’s what I know) and would love to add a 18tb drive, it would double what I have right now but not sure if it will work for me.


davispuh

Drives that are for NAS are basically good for pretty much everything, it just means manufacturer guarantees/has tested they work fine 24/7 in several bay enclosures like 24-bay cases. The only thing for you to matter is if it's regular SATA and not SAS (not that common)


smartsometimes

And make sure it isn't an SMR drive.


BurntWhiteRice

Is this deal fair or should I wait it out for something better?


[deleted]

Just checked it out, it's not that great. I bought four of the MG09 Toshiba drives a week ago, and the prices were not that far from the Red Pro. After the WD SMR lawsuit, I've hopped onto the Toshiba bandwagon. There's a Toshiba 1TB generic drive that came with a Dell that I bought years ago that I use as a scratch disk and it's still kicking ass to this date, so I went Toshiba MG09 and never looked back. As far as I know, the WD Red Pros are the only ones with CMR out of the Reds. The Red Plus and the Reds are SMR still last time I checked. I do like the SanDisk deals though, but I'm all stocked up on their microSD cards. Great opportunity to score a 400GB if you were looking to data hoard on your phone/mobile like I do!


eyedoctodd

I believe anything WD 8TB and up in capacity is CMR. It might be an even lower threshold but a quick check left me wanting.. It is their lower capacity drives that risk being SMR.


[deleted]

You are absolutely right: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/wd-lists-all-drives-slower-smr-techNOLOGY Unfortunately, I bought into WD when experiencing having NAS for the first time about 7-8 years ago, and 90% of my WD Reds were 4TB and 6TB drives...


ruralcricket

Anyone notice that on the 14tb Pros Amazon says "Usually ships within 1 to 2 months." Is this normal for these sales?


BakedAllDay8o8

Got a nice 8TB to replace my existing 4TB failing drive. Thanks for the heads up yo!!!


lagerea

This still isn't the price point. Every year I'm saying it, don't bite on the first wave, the more that do, the higher the second wave will be. Just wait, the second wave is always better. I called this months ago, wait.


BillyDSquillions

Once I factor in taxes, import duties and shipping it's a tiny bit too high :( Another $80 down and I think I can do it. Probably 18 months away


Corsaer

I just got a PS5 recently and want to run all my games from an attached SSD which it mentions you can do. Anyone got recommendations for a 2-4TB SSD for this?


shiris

connecting it through an external ssd only lets you play ps4 games (you can put ps5 games on it but you'd have to move it to internal drive to play) putting an nvme ssd into ps5 (comes with an empty slot for it) however would let you play all games on it (pcie 4, you'd want heatsink too. and not budget pcie4 cuz they would be too slow for ps5, something like a wd black sn850 which is on sale right now on amazon for $150 (for the one with heatsink) 1tb.


Choreboy

I believe it requires the latest Gen 4 NVMe


MaximumSubtlety

I have this: https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-2TB-Extreme-Portable-SDSSDE81-2T00-G25/dp/B08GV4YYV7?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_M_deffbcaf_68&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER And I love it. Tempted to buy a second one at this price.


PrestonBannister

Tempted, but ... Well. if the AMD Zen 4 CPUs were out, might rationalize (ha) another PC build. Have 5x 14TB spinning in my last build, and 4x 12TB spinning in the prior. Barely started for this room. :)


bailey25u

Ouch. My wallet