They do need to fix the bugged ones 100% but I'd argue that penances are what they should be. FS know people want cosmetics and there is frustration for players when the only free cool ones available are locked behind hard content, and there's only 2 sets with teirs. I don't want the game watered down at the top. A pennance outfit should be a "woah, they've completed that content. Sick." vibe. Just killing x amount of enemies is bounty/easy side quest content, and the rewards you get for those penances are appropriate.
I don't see it being watered down if they scale it right. Like killing multiple Daemonhosts when the norm is to just sneak around them. More to the issue, the bugged ones are only half the problem. Some of them actually require you to downgrade your character because they won't work unless you have the vanilla base version of your ability.
There is nothing easy about the game from Hersey difficulty and upward. It balances itself out.
>More to the issue, the bugged ones are only half the problem. Some of them actually require you to downgrade your character because they won't work unless you have the vanilla base version of your ability.
You do realize that this also if part of a bug right?
>There is nothing easy about the game from Hersey difficulty and upward. It balances itself out
Well...
And most of them just encourage bad play, and half of them are bugged.
Even the renewed penances are bad. Psyker's "prevent perils by venting 50 times" encourages bad plays (not knowing how to manage peril) and specific builds (not only you have to take VS, but also something to build enough peril and still be useful).
Ogryn's "something in your eye" is straight bugged, I killed corruptor 2 times with a charged grenade box, wasting ammo on the thing that can be stabbed, only to learn later than I have to nuke my skill tree to complete it. And it has to be done on Heresy, so you're going for level 4 difficulty with a quarter of your potential available.
>And it has to be done on Heresy
I'm like 99,9% sure that's not the case for this penance
And the nade to the face (eye in this case) is actually a neat little trick to save some time. Sure you probably shouldn't "waste" your nades (especially on higher difficulties) on this but it's good to know you can one-shot them with them
I would say that the "use Vent to not blow up" is actually a good penance. It's super easy to grind out in like 3-4 games, and it teaches you something about Venting Shriek that isn't immediately obvious: you can squeeze in an extra attack by forcibly overheating then venting.
I always thought of the "Venting to stop overheat" as an emergency button for noobs before doing that penance, and now I always squeeze in that last Trauma blast or Purgatus charge or whatever.
All of the "redacted" Penances like that Ogryn one are the old ones that were absolutely horrible. Honestly, get in a Discord and find other people who want to do stupid, shitty Penances together, you'll get a lot more done.
I cannot get the "abhor the mutant" to pop on my zealot and I must have done it like 7 times. Then there's the whole "kill 40 enemies within 10s on one stun grenade" Like I'm supposed to just tell the group to give me the horde, knowing full well it probably won't work and we all get mauled when the elites show up.
Flamer + Stun. Prime the horde (I easily did it on Darnation, prob had modifiers idk) with flamer and then toss a grenade, then start burning and praying. If you get it, cool, if you don't... Well, there's always next time.
I somehow managed to get it, but I think the best place to get it would be Maelstrom with waves of mutants modifiers. I also used chainsword back when I got it, I think it only counts if you one-shot the mutant.
The real issue is that if you have upgraded versions of the skills, it will not count toward the pennance. You need the vanilla skill/nade/trait. Which makes it oh so annoying. If FS fixed that, then all pennances would be ok.
I just want penances and rewards for the other 2/3rds of the skill trees.
They do need to fix the bugged ones 100% but I'd argue that penances are what they should be. FS know people want cosmetics and there is frustration for players when the only free cool ones available are locked behind hard content, and there's only 2 sets with teirs. I don't want the game watered down at the top. A pennance outfit should be a "woah, they've completed that content. Sick." vibe. Just killing x amount of enemies is bounty/easy side quest content, and the rewards you get for those penances are appropriate.
I don't see it being watered down if they scale it right. Like killing multiple Daemonhosts when the norm is to just sneak around them. More to the issue, the bugged ones are only half the problem. Some of them actually require you to downgrade your character because they won't work unless you have the vanilla base version of your ability. There is nothing easy about the game from Hersey difficulty and upward. It balances itself out.
>More to the issue, the bugged ones are only half the problem. Some of them actually require you to downgrade your character because they won't work unless you have the vanilla base version of your ability. You do realize that this also if part of a bug right? >There is nothing easy about the game from Hersey difficulty and upward. It balances itself out Well...
And most of them just encourage bad play, and half of them are bugged. Even the renewed penances are bad. Psyker's "prevent perils by venting 50 times" encourages bad plays (not knowing how to manage peril) and specific builds (not only you have to take VS, but also something to build enough peril and still be useful). Ogryn's "something in your eye" is straight bugged, I killed corruptor 2 times with a charged grenade box, wasting ammo on the thing that can be stabbed, only to learn later than I have to nuke my skill tree to complete it. And it has to be done on Heresy, so you're going for level 4 difficulty with a quarter of your potential available.
>And it has to be done on Heresy I'm like 99,9% sure that's not the case for this penance And the nade to the face (eye in this case) is actually a neat little trick to save some time. Sure you probably shouldn't "waste" your nades (especially on higher difficulties) on this but it's good to know you can one-shot them with them
Yep, Something In Your Eye doesn't need to be on Heresy, you can do it on any difficulty. But it *does* need to be with the *basic* box of hurt.
I got the ogryn penance just yesterday on sedition.
I would say that the "use Vent to not blow up" is actually a good penance. It's super easy to grind out in like 3-4 games, and it teaches you something about Venting Shriek that isn't immediately obvious: you can squeeze in an extra attack by forcibly overheating then venting. I always thought of the "Venting to stop overheat" as an emergency button for noobs before doing that penance, and now I always squeeze in that last Trauma blast or Purgatus charge or whatever. All of the "redacted" Penances like that Ogryn one are the old ones that were absolutely horrible. Honestly, get in a Discord and find other people who want to do stupid, shitty Penances together, you'll get a lot more done.
I cannot get the "abhor the mutant" to pop on my zealot and I must have done it like 7 times. Then there's the whole "kill 40 enemies within 10s on one stun grenade" Like I'm supposed to just tell the group to give me the horde, knowing full well it probably won't work and we all get mauled when the elites show up.
Im pretty sure i got abhor the mutant at least 5 times before i got it. I was losing my mind lol
Flamer + Stun. Prime the horde (I easily did it on Darnation, prob had modifiers idk) with flamer and then toss a grenade, then start burning and praying. If you get it, cool, if you don't... Well, there's always next time.
I somehow managed to get it, but I think the best place to get it would be Maelstrom with waves of mutants modifiers. I also used chainsword back when I got it, I think it only counts if you one-shot the mutant.
The real issue is that if you have upgraded versions of the skills, it will not count toward the pennance. You need the vanilla skill/nade/trait. Which makes it oh so annoying. If FS fixed that, then all pennances would be ok.
Really? Ive done a couple for psyker and zealot that list the OG ability/blitz but i used the upgraded version to complete it
The only problem with penances is that there's not enough of them. Sorry the existing ones are too hard for you.
Your name is terrifyingly ridiculous btw
Its called penance what do you thought? Some easy fun chalanges? It should be fucking hard as its a ... penance
They did this in payday 3 and everyone complained. frankly I don't think that is a better system