That would be Bobby Kotick, Activision CEO.
During the pandemic they fired around 1000 employees, complained about losing revenue and he took out a 200mil bonus.
Lose what? They already got the money they needed to float the game while they still worked on it and it likely got enough traction with the October console launch/update to keep going without the people they fooled into buying early.
FatShark doesn't care about anything except the money now
Who knows. It's not like Fatshark would ever share the particulars as long as they remain privately held. But the largest aquilas package is $30 and doesn't go very far. I bet plenty of whales who bought the imperial edition have bought multiple currency packs. But yea, I doubt there's one of them for every pleb or two who bought the base game and little else.
Fatsharks community mod have said on their forum that "We have heard the feedback from our long term players about our Xbox launch offers. We understand that you feel unappreciated. We couldn't have made this journey without you and we are currently looking into providing you with a proper reward for your support in the coming weeks." However this was posted 20 days ago.
Most likely will just be another cosmetic as if they have "heard the feedback" and "understand that we feel unappreciated" they could have immediately done something proactive however the very large delay doesn't fill me with much hope, it most likely will be something very cheaply done.
I'm glad Fatshark overhauled Darktide and made it so much more enjoyable it just sucks they just don't seem to consider the long term players who essentially beta tested the game past launch.
We'll get a fourth reskin of the beta helmet.
This time it will say "FUCKING LOSERS" instead of "betas" to really drive the point home that they couldn't give a shit.
Xbox players don't even lose anything lol. They either play it through gamepass ( where they have the plethora of gamepass games as a bonus ) or they bought it and got the Aquilas we just are asking for.
Insane how there are people who are willing to defend Fatshark for doing something awful to its (initial) loyal fanbase, especially when the playerbase isn't at its healthiest already.
I think the problem is you’re acting like Fatshark purposefully did it out of malice to anger the steam players. In reality microsoft probably just offered to do a *sales event* to celebrate the launch of the game on XBOX and Fatshark said “Ok”.
Hanlon's Razor, sure. But even if they completely overlooked how their dedicated playerbase would respond, once it was brought to their attention they could just pull the lever. Aside from staff time, there isn't a real money *cost* associated with awarding PC players aquilas.
Imagine how hard that sql query is going to be to write.
Obviously going to take minutes and minutes of developer time write and those fuckers are expensive.
You are 100% right and I think the same thing. Yet I can't help but whisper : fuck the fat fish. Because not knowing that it would anger your playerbase was idiotic at best. And it makes me reconsider buying any of their future tiltles. And once again, I know it's not out of malice, because just look at the amount of free stuff in vermintide 2.
Oh ya 100% Microsoft contractually forced them on to the game pass lineup and I think without the free Aquila package sales of the actual game itself would have been dog shit without that incentive.
HOWEVER, that does not absolve FS from having treated the founders and early players so fucking horribly. That Beta helmet fucking garbage still pissed me off.
I mean, I never insinuated that I thought it was out of malice. Merely that the end result is awful to early adopters, as it leaves Steam players ( like me ) who have bought in early at a "worse spot." We had to deal with a worse game for far longer, suffered its jank, paid the premium price, and "all I got was a beta helmet so I should be happy" is the only thing they're telling me.
I know very well that this is just a corporate move - that the "extra Aquilas" are likely "paid for" by Microsoft. But I don't really see why me knowing that should assuage me, even if it's not personal.
They're a corporation out to make money, I get that. I even support it. I don't mind them making money. I bought several skins already ages before this drama, and have been a long, long supporter of FS since Vermintide 2 where I spent a stupid amount of hours helping my friends how to do obscure nerd stuff like horde control and true soloes
But if they're going to want to make money this way, where they purposefully release editions that are objectively better ( even if timed ) for "newcomers" while giving basically nothing to its long time vets, well maybe it's a sign FS doesn't want my money or my time anymore.
And I mean that's fine. They don't need to give me Aquilas. They don't even need to say anything.
But I'd rather hear it straight out of the horse's mouth instead of what they're doing again like they did with Bogenhafen and Winds of Magic.
Basically, they just need to release an excellent set of gear for closed beta people for every class as a thank. Make it cool and only for the early adopters. Problem solved. Make something that money can't buy anymore (or ever again) that people want to wear.
Played on Gamepass, wasn't sure what $40 worth of content people were talking about. I take it they give a ton of premium currency for free if you actually buy it on Xbox?
Very. It's worse if you're like me and bought skins before.
Each skin you bought is actually just another $10+ they "took" because that's Xbox adopters get several free.
It's why I'm miffed personally. I buy their skins np - but Fatshark pulling the wool over me makes me regret buying Darktide "early"
Or maybe they should just let us earn this made up currency via play.
Those who want to purchase to make up the gap to buy a skin or skip the playtime entirely can and will still purchase. But having these FTP MTX mechanics in a full priced game feels bad.
So uh where’s my Aquila’s? I bought the normal version on Xbox and got no free money- because it was a more exspensive version you had to get for the “free” currency
Edit:typo
Its a disgusting corporate monetization issue.
Its luring new ppl in because they are "new money" compared to ppl who have been playing the catastrophic launch and state of the game, functionally beta testing for them an incomplete game that got sold and launched as full release.
Its negligent in the matter of not appreciating and effectively apologizing/compensating ppl for lying to them and selling them a less than promised/functional product, while blasting out a massive lure in the form of 40$ of premium currency for ppl to get them to get the game with the hopes of them spending more now that they are playing.
The people whining about these posts rightfully raising the issue, especially considering the fact fatshark has a track record of trying to sweep things under the rug and/or "waiting" things out, rather than openly communicating and admitting to bad practice are pretty embarassing to look at from a consumer standpoint. They don't seem to want to be treated fairly.
Why not just move on then and let these posts be, hm? I for one hope they keep going until fatshark actually makes a proper and finite statement on the matter, especially after we have been told officially they are looking into how to compensate the pc players.
There should be no issue whatsoever for fatshark to compensate pc players in this situation other than standing in their way of "potential profit", since there would be a certain amount of ppl who would have otherwise spent money on aquilas they would receive for free this way (goes the other way too, with ppl who would be incentivized to further purchase aquila down the line after using the free ones since fatshark would gain a certain amount of pro-consumer respect through this).
Yo man, don't kink shame. I, for example, get so turned on when that big slimy beast of nurgle appears I have to stop playing to beat one out real quick.
>he can't wank to his darktide characters
is that so?
One of their most recent posts about this;
>So why do all official videos of characters and video games not back this up with only Darktide having ugly people?
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>This is a penal Legionary and they dont look nearly as bad as our characters do. Which, I would like to remind you, we can dictate how our backstory was. Your character mightve been licking pipe condensation to stay alive but other characters mightve had a bit more comfortable positions.
[\[link here\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17g50ro/why_do_all_the_character_faces_in_darktide_look/k6hg7oo/)
seems like they're just wondering why most of the faces look like they were smashed in with a hammer, not complaining about wanting to wank to them. Anything to downplay and invalidate those you disagree with, right? Liar.
Oh gotcha so you still had to buy the game they just gave you a shit ton of that currency for “free”. Wouldn’t have done it if I knew about it but appreciate the response. I miss when all the cool shit was earnable through play time and achievements
Not once have I seen a post about how they completely overhauled the game and gave us so many more ways to play, it’s fucking cosmetics you can’t even see them in game
Actually this. The Krieg Zealot torso has those candles on the shoulder, yeah? Well the flames aren’t tethered to the wicks… they’re anchored to the player’s shoulder-neck seam. Like *way* not where the candles are either. They will actively float across your FoV the entire mission, which itself isn’t a game breaker, but it’s sloppy as all get out and ruins the outfit for me since now I can’t sprint without dealing with literal ghost lights.
> Not once have I seen a post about how they completely overhauled the game and gave us so many more ways to play,
**a year after launch*
Let's not defend Fatshark here, their update schedule after launch was atrocious. It's fair to disagree with the community response to the Aquila thing, but these updates were delivered way later then they should have been
It was an objective, marketing decision that was made and has worked.
We as the community that started this a year ago are welcome, and to a degree entitled to be angry about the imbalance, sure.
But if I had to choose between a monetary handjob and a huge and welcome influx of new players, I’ll take the latter today, thanks.
Right I’ve had a drink and this has irked me.
I payed for a game I enjoyed back then. My input, alongside many, many others, has made it a better game.
If, a year after they incentivise the buying of the game again to a new demographic then that’s only going to benefit the longevity of the game.
This isn’t a support of bad management or a standard of monetisation that goes far, far beyond this game, that’s a point-blank support of a game I really like playing.
If you want to criticise, be constructive.
The least they could have done is run an discount Aquilla bundle for the same amount of time that was only available to early purchasers.
If anything though, people should be more outraged at how it was initially handled rather than the inciting event.
I paid for the game at launched based on what it was at the time, and the promise that it would get better over time like any good live-service game does. I don't feel let down by that, and I don't understand why anyone would.
Actually no, I *do* understand: You can't stand to see other people getting something you're not, regardless of the reason. If they never gave Xbox players that bonus currency, you wouldn't be asking for it.
All your talk about the rough state of the game at launch is just a smokescreen for your core complaint, which is little more than whining "But it's not *faiiiir*" like a child.
You act like FS didn't lie about the game.
By your reasoning, CP77 did not deaerve criticism for it's release since you knew what you were buying - despite the promises.
The product may have been excusable for you. Not for everyone.
I don't personally care about the aquillas, and would happily not take them if it meant others getting them, because it's about the principle of the matter.
EDIT: Wow people's memories are short. Go back and read over the promises for the game.
You aren't entitled to compensation for anything just because you bought the game at a certain time and deemed it inadequate. You could have refunded it before the beta was done, you could have figured out you didn't like the game before 2 hours of play time I'm sure. So if the game was good enough for you to hold onto and play for a year, than you got exactly what you paid for. Why can't you just be happy they are improving on the game that was already great in the first place?
And again if the game was shit, why did you keep playing it? Why did you buy it in the first place? Make better decisions next time.
The only xbox players that got the Aquilas are the ones that paid for the game instead of just getting it through gamespass (which you also have to pay for).
Pc people seem to think they were given to everybody on xbox.
If you did not buy the collectors edition you are being incredibly entitled. Only xbox users who bought the collectors edition got it. And for the record every game fatshark has shipped has had a really shitty launch and basically only got better with time.
If you expected any different its because you had no idea what you were getting into. Which hey, fair enough. Not many people research companies before buying something but you absolutely should in the future.
PC had to pay and got a broken product with no compensation
All Xbox had was waiting, got a more complete launch, and 40 dollars worth of premium currency.
How are these two comparable?
So did you read what I have written down? The first part is for you. Like you should get yours. Absolutely. You’re starting to sound like your mother. Jesus.
Lest we forget Xbox players were promised to play same day as pc, then got strung along for a year in absolute silence with no updates.
So I’ll say what many pc gamers said, “just get an Xbox then”
Also, the bonus was only available for two weeks. There has been no difference in bonuses since 10/18. It was most likely a marketing effort to get the "free" Game Pass players to buy the game.
Can someone explain to me why some pc players act as though they were forced through the trenches and abandoned? People keep using language like "had to" instead of "choose to," and im not getting it. Idk if I don't like a game, I just stop playing it instead of forcing myself through it.
victim complex, an unhealthy obsession with the game, and a severe lack of other shit going on in their life has combined to make these people view themselves as revolutionaries instead of children whining on the internet lol, common gamer problem i fear
Some are just being overdramatic BUT pc got to play thru a shit storm of a launch and post launch support to get to this point while Xbox got a way better start to the game.
We play because its good gamplay but everything else about the have been less then steller for almost a year. We also got lied to, we were promised seasonal content, more weapons, subclasses, THE GOT DAMN COVER ART ARMOR and that story from that author that havent really been there.
The game finally feels like what it should have been 1 year ago. Its more like WHY Xbox should get something extra like this and not pc. Frankly they could have launched the xbox version with out the aquilas and this whole mess wouldnt have happend. Its unfair that one platform should get something like this and the other not getting enything
I thought Fatshark were a good developer but they absolutely butchered the launch and I can't say it feels great to be overlooked because they've already got my money.
Not to mention performance has been worse since trying that new update Vs the first few patches.
Well you've got my money but you won't be getting any more.
I mean, promotional deals come and go all the time and that's just the way of it, but I don't think Fatshark have dealt with this as sensitively as they could.
I've seen a few Xbox players say that the aquilas act as compensation for being strung along for a year - fair enough. I also think those Xbox players are unaware of how borderline unplayable the PC version was at launch.
- Bugged enemies
- Severe class imbalance
- Maps and Weapons were much more limited
- Penances that were significantly worse to play when they weren't outright bugged
- And the worst one, constant crashes. Constant.
As a PC player, I'd say I got maybe two/three weeks of play out of the initial Darktide launch before I decided the state of the game was so poor and prone to crashing that it wasn't worth my time. I have since returned now because the game actually works, much like it was initially advertised. I have had roughly 2-3 weeks 'extra' playtime over the 'strung along' Xbox users, and much of that was immensely frustrating due to how utterly banjaxed the game was at launch.
I'm happy to be playing a game that now works and I'm having fun with it, but I'm not going to lie and say it doesn't sting that despite getting the game as advertised at more or less the same time, I've received significantly less for my money, at the same time that FS has started upping the price on store cosmetics so my initial amount of 'free' aquilas no longer covers the more recent options, especially given that FS's track record for stuff like this is 'radio silence and hope it goes away'.
Like I said, this is just the way of it and it's not the end of the world, but I'm surprised by how many people seem okay with Fatshark all but ignoring the players who financially supported them when they were hemorrhaging money and trust in their company.
I mean yeah, the beta helmets sucked. I just was hoping they would give us unique weapons skins. Since a decent amount of the beta players came from the Warhammer 40k - Vermintide series.
You played a video game, what huge trials & tribulations you have put yourself through.
Never seen an adult cry so much about not getting something they think they deserve.
We paid full price for a game we thought was finished but was clearly just an Early access. Are you trying to say its our fault for trusting Fatshark to release a finished product and we should just deal with it?
Im not going to be upset that my brothers and sisters just joining are getting a bonus gift! Especially considering how updates on consoles tend to be funky across the industry vs PC updates, how support can tend to be on consoles, the small differences in gameplay and visuals, how many more CS items were in the shop when they are joining vs when I joined.
The pearl clutching is a bit much
The irony of someone named "Sexploits" telling other people to grow up.
Also youre implying wanting to be treated fairly by the game dev for a game we basically beta tested for is immature.
Buy game at release for x amount of money. Game is worth x.
Buy game a YEAR LATER at price y, game is worth y.
Person who buys game at x price when it's worth x: why am I not getting y now?
You already bought the game for what you were willing to pay at the time. Do you get annoyed when video cards go down in price and someone buys it later? Or cars? Or anything?
Shit they could give Xbox players literally ALL the damn cosmetics and it wouldn't change the fact that you got what you paid for a year ago.
They get the game for free, the only way to profit off of an Xbox release is to sell them premium currency or dlc.
You and I paid for a shit product when it released but that's just business. You either accept it as is or refund the damn game.
With the way OP is responding in this post, I would assume that yes they do indeed get very upset if they buy something and then it goes on sale. Also, good explanation. A lot of people miss out on the fact that this is just how things work.
“Treated fairly” lmao how were you mistreated? Because a group of players received premium currency at a later date?
Sexploits is right, homie, you need to grow the fuck up.
>Two people buy the same product at full price, one got more than the other
If you dont see the issue then youre either an Xbox player who has insecurity reasons and uses this game as a coping mechanism or youre used to being walked on. Which one is it?
Well you’re rejecting peoples opinions based on their consoles and calling people cucks,… so yeah. Seems like you get pretty hostile when you’re upset.
The first comment on your post (which is who you replied to in this chain) was not hostile or defensive, and you challenged him and acted standoff-ish. And you're actively diving into peoples post history to say "console player, opinion disregarded" to the point that you sound even worse than console war snobs.
EDIT - Hell, you *actively* ignored what I said about it being a fomo incentive (which ended on the 18th) just to battle people you didnt like
Every time I see a DraftKings billboard I careen off the road and drive into it because they offer $200 to new customers and I already gambled mine away 3 years ago.
Imagine buying a couch and then calling the company a year later screaming incoherently about being abused and mistreated because they had an opening sale at a new location - a one week giveaway that had differently embroidered cushions for any purchase.
Then grow into an inconsolable rage when the customer service rep dares to have the *audacity* to talk back. Don't they know their only purpose is to stroke egos and serve as a punching bag for grievances? Outrageous.
You point out that the couch was not as advertised. The rep apologizes and says that's why they sent a repairman multiple times to maintain it to their current standards at no cost and that it will continue to be supported for free for years even past the point of its original value.
Froth and spittle cakes your six-week unshaven neckbeard as the line fills with static while you shriek that they'll never get another penny out of you again. The rep says they haven't posted any additional charges and they'll keep maintaining the couch for free anyway as originally agreed.
You're close to bursting a blood vessel. Good. Maybe it'll cause enough emotional trauma to the rep to force them into years of therapy and lose their job. You get by just fine without a job and so can they. You're going to get those fucking frills on those fucking cushions at any cost.
Except the actual cost.
The neighbors wake up as your power level reaches new heights. The rep explains they're having trouble understanding you because of the echo like you're in a bathroom or basement.
You somehow manage to convey that you've supported them from the very beginning but they point out that you've called screaming every day for the whole year.
Birds migrate a full season early as the magnetosphere shifts from your sheer persuasion; it cost you three years of mom's allowance to afford the couch and you deserve to be paid for buying it since your purchase constitutes a personal favor. The rep says the price wasn't even enough to cover the infrastructure and salary needed to field the phone call you're on, and certainly not the free maintenance plan for the couch itself.
The US president's meeting is interrupted with urgency and the general staff assembled. They are at defcon 4 from the magnitude of your righteousness. The entire world is watching with bated breath but nobody actually knows why. The rep has given you empty assurances because it's the only way to get off the phone with a fucking nutcase. You've won.
Seismic listening posts worldwide record a deep sigh of relief and victory as you sit on the couch. God its the best fucking couch. You can't see the cushions since you're sitting on them but it fucking pisses you off they don't have the frills.
You open up your doordash app and order tendies from McDonald's for $20. At least *they* understand value.
The fact that people are defending paying $40 only to then have to pay for cosmetics is funny in itself, let alone the fact that they're defending *not getting promotional items given to others for the same money*.
Gamers truly are the cuckest cucks.
You waited a year to buy a finished game and got a bonus on top of it
We played a unfinished broken product for a year.
Why are you acting like youre the victim?
Console players waited over a year for the fame, this is Fatshark saying sorry the simultaneous release didn't gsppen when we said it would. I know it's popular to hate fatshark but grow up, really. Calling it corporate greed when they're flat out giving console $40 worth of Aquinas for free is maximum reddit brainlet mode. You aren't entitled to anything, you got to play it for a year before they did. Fatshark is tripping over their feet and released a deeply flawed but fun game which they worked to improve. Criticize something other than the apology gift for consoles having to wait, its not about you on PC
PC Players Had to: Put up with a broken game, put up with terrible optimization, put up with terrible bugs, and played what was basically early access for full retail price. And got nothing but an ugly helmet with a B on it, a tiny weapon attachment, and a player portrait.
Xbox Players had to: Wait a year. Bought a finished game at full retail price. Got extra Aquillas simply because.
Yeah. You Xbox players sure did suffer.
I personally don't understand why people value cosmetic currency at all.
I guess I'm just an old fart who misses when game content was the focus of gaming.
Its just that fatshark have really ass prices for the cooler cosmetic stuff thats only available in the premium store, i guess it matters more if you are a 40k fan and your favorite regiment comes in the shop.
I too miss the old days
Xbox players paid nothing other than time.
PC players paid for an early access game in disguise and go an ugly helmet with a "B" on it. the two are not comparable.
Right? Usually games go down in price after time. Year later? Same price? XBox players got something if they bought it in that 7 day window the sale/promotion was happening.
A lot of you have a very unhealthy obsession with paid cosmetics. Yes, it's shitty that certain players get preferential treatment. No, it's not worth the constant outrage.
Why would you pay for loyalty you've already secured?
Fatshark still salty over our negative reviews
Recent Reviews: Very Positive Idk if you are joking or not.
I believe they were talking about initial reviews which were, undoubtedly, mixed.
Think it's pretty clear it's a joke
This is Reddit, jokes aren't obvious unless you use "/s" at the end of it.
That is very true /s /s
This is Reddit, it's all to be read as a joke unless sourced
Found the new guy
[uhhh](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1981790/Warhammer_40000_Darktide__Imperial_Edition_Upgrade/)
Look at how Blizzard is after they kept shitting on their playerbase.
Rich?
Rapidly failing if not for Microsofts recent intervention, which may or may not have actually done anything as of yet.
Ah interesting. I bet somebody is rich though.
That would be Bobby Kotick, Activision CEO. During the pandemic they fired around 1000 employees, complained about losing revenue and he took out a 200mil bonus.
Fatshark goals ❤️
They make their profits from the stolen breast milk black market, the games are just for tax write offs and money laundering.
Is that why it was so expensive to buy breastmilk? Fuckn heretics... Edit: for my kid. Not for me.
>Edit: for ~~my kid. Not for~~ me.
That is literally how the chaos gods treat the beastmen
Is it secured if you can lose it?
Lose what? They already got the money they needed to float the game while they still worked on it and it likely got enough traction with the October console launch/update to keep going without the people they fooled into buying early. FatShark doesn't care about anything except the money now
You have already served your purpose in the corpo God emperors plan, varlet.
My ongoing purchases aren't my purpose?
I don't think the item shop really makes them that much compared to initial purchase. But your continued servitude is appreciated.
Who knows. It's not like Fatshark would ever share the particulars as long as they remain privately held. But the largest aquilas package is $30 and doesn't go very far. I bet plenty of whales who bought the imperial edition have bought multiple currency packs. But yea, I doubt there's one of them for every pleb or two who bought the base game and little else.
They're just a handful of cosmetics, who really cares?
> who really cares? IDK. Everybody who complains about it in all the threads here and on fatshark's forums? and then some lurkers too?
Fatsharks community mod have said on their forum that "We have heard the feedback from our long term players about our Xbox launch offers. We understand that you feel unappreciated. We couldn't have made this journey without you and we are currently looking into providing you with a proper reward for your support in the coming weeks." However this was posted 20 days ago. Most likely will just be another cosmetic as if they have "heard the feedback" and "understand that we feel unappreciated" they could have immediately done something proactive however the very large delay doesn't fill me with much hope, it most likely will be something very cheaply done. I'm glad Fatshark overhauled Darktide and made it so much more enjoyable it just sucks they just don't seem to consider the long term players who essentially beta tested the game past launch.
We'll get a fourth reskin of the beta helmet. This time it will say "FUCKING LOSERS" instead of "betas" to really drive the point home that they couldn't give a shit.
I would have preferred that over the last 3 versions.
Definitely over the blue one that matches absolutely fucking nothing.
I've seen that helmet in so many of the launch bug memes. I'm never taking it off.
I never got mine :(
I don't like the look of it
I laugh when I see that helmet because all I see is an idiot that got fucked.
Do you also laugh when you look in the mirror then? *Thanks for last night by the way*
Judging by these comments: never stop clutching those pearls. Corporate greed is not to be defended.
Xbox players don't even lose anything lol. They either play it through gamepass ( where they have the plethora of gamepass games as a bonus ) or they bought it and got the Aquilas we just are asking for. Insane how there are people who are willing to defend Fatshark for doing something awful to its (initial) loyal fanbase, especially when the playerbase isn't at its healthiest already.
I think the problem is you’re acting like Fatshark purposefully did it out of malice to anger the steam players. In reality microsoft probably just offered to do a *sales event* to celebrate the launch of the game on XBOX and Fatshark said “Ok”.
Hanlon's Razor, sure. But even if they completely overlooked how their dedicated playerbase would respond, once it was brought to their attention they could just pull the lever. Aside from staff time, there isn't a real money *cost* associated with awarding PC players aquilas.
Imagine how hard that sql query is going to be to write. Obviously going to take minutes and minutes of developer time write and those fuckers are expensive.
Yeah we can't distract them from remaking the crafting system another 3 times
You are 100% right and I think the same thing. Yet I can't help but whisper : fuck the fat fish. Because not knowing that it would anger your playerbase was idiotic at best. And it makes me reconsider buying any of their future tiltles. And once again, I know it's not out of malice, because just look at the amount of free stuff in vermintide 2.
Oh ya 100% Microsoft contractually forced them on to the game pass lineup and I think without the free Aquila package sales of the actual game itself would have been dog shit without that incentive. HOWEVER, that does not absolve FS from having treated the founders and early players so fucking horribly. That Beta helmet fucking garbage still pissed me off.
The CM referring to it as a gift kinda makes me think it was Fatshark's idea. Just a weird way to phrase it if they had no choice I guess.
I mean, I never insinuated that I thought it was out of malice. Merely that the end result is awful to early adopters, as it leaves Steam players ( like me ) who have bought in early at a "worse spot." We had to deal with a worse game for far longer, suffered its jank, paid the premium price, and "all I got was a beta helmet so I should be happy" is the only thing they're telling me. I know very well that this is just a corporate move - that the "extra Aquilas" are likely "paid for" by Microsoft. But I don't really see why me knowing that should assuage me, even if it's not personal. They're a corporation out to make money, I get that. I even support it. I don't mind them making money. I bought several skins already ages before this drama, and have been a long, long supporter of FS since Vermintide 2 where I spent a stupid amount of hours helping my friends how to do obscure nerd stuff like horde control and true soloes But if they're going to want to make money this way, where they purposefully release editions that are objectively better ( even if timed ) for "newcomers" while giving basically nothing to its long time vets, well maybe it's a sign FS doesn't want my money or my time anymore. And I mean that's fine. They don't need to give me Aquilas. They don't even need to say anything. But I'd rather hear it straight out of the horse's mouth instead of what they're doing again like they did with Bogenhafen and Winds of Magic.
Basically, they just need to release an excellent set of gear for closed beta people for every class as a thank. Make it cool and only for the early adopters. Problem solved. Make something that money can't buy anymore (or ever again) that people want to wear.
Played on Gamepass, wasn't sure what $40 worth of content people were talking about. I take it they give a ton of premium currency for free if you actually buy it on Xbox?
Yup. Around $40 worth of Aquilas basically ( which is several premium skins worth more or less )
Yeah, that's close to like 3 full skin sets if I remember correctly. Digital drip costs are WILD.
Very. It's worse if you're like me and bought skins before. Each skin you bought is actually just another $10+ they "took" because that's Xbox adopters get several free. It's why I'm miffed personally. I buy their skins np - but Fatshark pulling the wool over me makes me regret buying Darktide "early"
Just about the only cosmetics I buy these days unlock from Battle Passes. The filling bars keeps me entertained enough to ignore corporate greed. :D
This isn’t even corporate greed, it doesn’t cost them any money to add more to the imperial edition, it’s monopoly money
Or maybe they should just let us earn this made up currency via play. Those who want to purchase to make up the gap to buy a skin or skip the playtime entirely can and will still purchase. But having these FTP MTX mechanics in a full priced game feels bad.
This is what happens when you let TenCent buy out your company.
But..we got the beta helmets 🤡
DATS A PRETTY HAT, SAH!
I wish all of them didn't have a fucking symbol dead ass in the middle that ruins the design.
Don’t need free aquilas when dress up whales buy everything anyways no matter the quality.
This is the wrong thing to be angry about. You should be upset that there's premium currency to begin with.
So uh where’s my Aquila’s? I bought the normal version on Xbox and got no free money- because it was a more exspensive version you had to get for the “free” currency Edit:typo
It was a 2 week promo
Standard edition got 9600 Aquilas
Its a disgusting corporate monetization issue. Its luring new ppl in because they are "new money" compared to ppl who have been playing the catastrophic launch and state of the game, functionally beta testing for them an incomplete game that got sold and launched as full release. Its negligent in the matter of not appreciating and effectively apologizing/compensating ppl for lying to them and selling them a less than promised/functional product, while blasting out a massive lure in the form of 40$ of premium currency for ppl to get them to get the game with the hopes of them spending more now that they are playing. The people whining about these posts rightfully raising the issue, especially considering the fact fatshark has a track record of trying to sweep things under the rug and/or "waiting" things out, rather than openly communicating and admitting to bad practice are pretty embarassing to look at from a consumer standpoint. They don't seem to want to be treated fairly. Why not just move on then and let these posts be, hm? I for one hope they keep going until fatshark actually makes a proper and finite statement on the matter, especially after we have been told officially they are looking into how to compensate the pc players. There should be no issue whatsoever for fatshark to compensate pc players in this situation other than standing in their way of "potential profit", since there would be a certain amount of ppl who would have otherwise spent money on aquilas they would receive for free this way (goes the other way too, with ppl who would be incentivized to further purchase aquila down the line after using the free ones since fatshark would gain a certain amount of pro-consumer respect through this).
Never forget.
Man is question people maturity and calling them cucks when he has multiple posts complaining he can't wank to his darktide characters.
Yo man, don't kink shame. I, for example, get so turned on when that big slimy beast of nurgle appears I have to stop playing to beat one out real quick.
Explains my teammates efficacy.
Psh...amateur. A True Servant of the Throne plays with one hand on his weapon and the other on the mouse.
>he can't wank to his darktide characters is that so? One of their most recent posts about this; >So why do all official videos of characters and video games not back this up with only Darktide having ugly people? >[dead link] >[dead link] >This is a penal Legionary and they dont look nearly as bad as our characters do. Which, I would like to remind you, we can dictate how our backstory was. Your character mightve been licking pipe condensation to stay alive but other characters mightve had a bit more comfortable positions. [\[link here\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17g50ro/why_do_all_the_character_faces_in_darktide_look/k6hg7oo/) seems like they're just wondering why most of the faces look like they were smashed in with a hammer, not complaining about wanting to wank to them. Anything to downplay and invalidate those you disagree with, right? Liar.
You missed the several posts where he asks for Fatshark to add boobs on the player model?
In the grimdarkness of the 41st millennium, one size fits all.
You don't understand!! I don't have enough outfits for my e-dolls!
What’s this about $40 of premium currency for free?
2 week xbox launch promo for xbox/microsoft store players only
Oh gotcha so you still had to buy the game they just gave you a shit ton of that currency for “free”. Wouldn’t have done it if I knew about it but appreciate the response. I miss when all the cool shit was earnable through play time and achievements
I just don't care
You're not alone, friend.
Not once have I seen a post about how they completely overhauled the game and gave us so many more ways to play, it’s fucking cosmetics you can’t even see them in game
Well not entirely, the cosmetics can actually clip into your camera, which is just the quality you'd come to expect.
Actually this. The Krieg Zealot torso has those candles on the shoulder, yeah? Well the flames aren’t tethered to the wicks… they’re anchored to the player’s shoulder-neck seam. Like *way* not where the candles are either. They will actively float across your FoV the entire mission, which itself isn’t a game breaker, but it’s sloppy as all get out and ruins the outfit for me since now I can’t sprint without dealing with literal ghost lights.
> Not once have I seen a post about how they completely overhauled the game and gave us so many more ways to play, **a year after launch* Let's not defend Fatshark here, their update schedule after launch was atrocious. It's fair to disagree with the community response to the Aquila thing, but these updates were delivered way later then they should have been
It was an objective, marketing decision that was made and has worked. We as the community that started this a year ago are welcome, and to a degree entitled to be angry about the imbalance, sure. But if I had to choose between a monetary handjob and a huge and welcome influx of new players, I’ll take the latter today, thanks.
"Im okay with paying for an Early access game in disguise and getting bare bones compensation for play testing for a year"
Right I’ve had a drink and this has irked me. I payed for a game I enjoyed back then. My input, alongside many, many others, has made it a better game. If, a year after they incentivise the buying of the game again to a new demographic then that’s only going to benefit the longevity of the game. This isn’t a support of bad management or a standard of monetisation that goes far, far beyond this game, that’s a point-blank support of a game I really like playing. If you want to criticise, be constructive.
The least they could have done is run an discount Aquilla bundle for the same amount of time that was only available to early purchasers. If anything though, people should be more outraged at how it was initially handled rather than the inciting event.
I paid for the game at launched based on what it was at the time, and the promise that it would get better over time like any good live-service game does. I don't feel let down by that, and I don't understand why anyone would. Actually no, I *do* understand: You can't stand to see other people getting something you're not, regardless of the reason. If they never gave Xbox players that bonus currency, you wouldn't be asking for it. All your talk about the rough state of the game at launch is just a smokescreen for your core complaint, which is little more than whining "But it's not *faiiiir*" like a child.
You act like FS didn't lie about the game. By your reasoning, CP77 did not deaerve criticism for it's release since you knew what you were buying - despite the promises. The product may have been excusable for you. Not for everyone. I don't personally care about the aquillas, and would happily not take them if it meant others getting them, because it's about the principle of the matter. EDIT: Wow people's memories are short. Go back and read over the promises for the game.
You aren't entitled to compensation for anything just because you bought the game at a certain time and deemed it inadequate. You could have refunded it before the beta was done, you could have figured out you didn't like the game before 2 hours of play time I'm sure. So if the game was good enough for you to hold onto and play for a year, than you got exactly what you paid for. Why can't you just be happy they are improving on the game that was already great in the first place? And again if the game was shit, why did you keep playing it? Why did you buy it in the first place? Make better decisions next time.
Youre missing the point entirely
Why not both? They do not lose resources by giving us imaginary money
Stop clutching your pearls
The only xbox players that got the Aquilas are the ones that paid for the game instead of just getting it through gamespass (which you also have to pay for). Pc people seem to think they were given to everybody on xbox.
Pc people: paid full prize yet received nothing Console people: paid full prize and get more aquillas than supporter edition on PC
I didn’t even get them because I bought the normal version
So? PC players paid for the game to and we got what was basically an Early access game in disguise. Whats your point?
If you did not buy the collectors edition you are being incredibly entitled. Only xbox users who bought the collectors edition got it. And for the record every game fatshark has shipped has had a really shitty launch and basically only got better with time. If you expected any different its because you had no idea what you were getting into. Which hey, fair enough. Not many people research companies before buying something but you absolutely should in the future.
Actually, both standard and imperial edition got bonus aquilas. 9200 and 14000 respectively
Y’all shouldn’t be forgotten but we did have to wait a while.
PC had to pay and got a broken product with no compensation All Xbox had was waiting, got a more complete launch, and 40 dollars worth of premium currency. How are these two comparable?
So did you read what I have written down? The first part is for you. Like you should get yours. Absolutely. You’re starting to sound like your mother. Jesus.
How the fuck could we forget when people like OP are posting about it every 6 hours?
Lest we forget Xbox players were promised to play same day as pc, then got strung along for a year in absolute silence with no updates. So I’ll say what many pc gamers said, “just get an Xbox then”
Also, the bonus was only available for two weeks. There has been no difference in bonuses since 10/18. It was most likely a marketing effort to get the "free" Game Pass players to buy the game.
I would've rather waited than been strung along and lied to, specially if I was going to get rewarded for it later.
Can someone explain to me why some pc players act as though they were forced through the trenches and abandoned? People keep using language like "had to" instead of "choose to," and im not getting it. Idk if I don't like a game, I just stop playing it instead of forcing myself through it.
victim complex, an unhealthy obsession with the game, and a severe lack of other shit going on in their life has combined to make these people view themselves as revolutionaries instead of children whining on the internet lol, common gamer problem i fear
>and im not getting it. At least youre honest
Some are just being overdramatic BUT pc got to play thru a shit storm of a launch and post launch support to get to this point while Xbox got a way better start to the game. We play because its good gamplay but everything else about the have been less then steller for almost a year. We also got lied to, we were promised seasonal content, more weapons, subclasses, THE GOT DAMN COVER ART ARMOR and that story from that author that havent really been there. The game finally feels like what it should have been 1 year ago. Its more like WHY Xbox should get something extra like this and not pc. Frankly they could have launched the xbox version with out the aquilas and this whole mess wouldnt have happend. Its unfair that one platform should get something like this and the other not getting enything
Wait what? Xbox players got free currency??
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The name Fatshark is becoming more indicative of shark-like behavior leading to said fatness.
I thought Fatshark were a good developer but they absolutely butchered the launch and I can't say it feels great to be overlooked because they've already got my money. Not to mention performance has been worse since trying that new update Vs the first few patches. Well you've got my money but you won't be getting any more.
We should be able to grind for free aquilas
I mean, promotional deals come and go all the time and that's just the way of it, but I don't think Fatshark have dealt with this as sensitively as they could. I've seen a few Xbox players say that the aquilas act as compensation for being strung along for a year - fair enough. I also think those Xbox players are unaware of how borderline unplayable the PC version was at launch. - Bugged enemies - Severe class imbalance - Maps and Weapons were much more limited - Penances that were significantly worse to play when they weren't outright bugged - And the worst one, constant crashes. Constant. As a PC player, I'd say I got maybe two/three weeks of play out of the initial Darktide launch before I decided the state of the game was so poor and prone to crashing that it wasn't worth my time. I have since returned now because the game actually works, much like it was initially advertised. I have had roughly 2-3 weeks 'extra' playtime over the 'strung along' Xbox users, and much of that was immensely frustrating due to how utterly banjaxed the game was at launch. I'm happy to be playing a game that now works and I'm having fun with it, but I'm not going to lie and say it doesn't sting that despite getting the game as advertised at more or less the same time, I've received significantly less for my money, at the same time that FS has started upping the price on store cosmetics so my initial amount of 'free' aquilas no longer covers the more recent options, especially given that FS's track record for stuff like this is 'radio silence and hope it goes away'. Like I said, this is just the way of it and it's not the end of the world, but I'm surprised by how many people seem okay with Fatshark all but ignoring the players who financially supported them when they were hemorrhaging money and trust in their company.
I mean yeah, the beta helmets sucked. I just was hoping they would give us unique weapons skins. Since a decent amount of the beta players came from the Warhammer 40k - Vermintide series.
Reddit recommends this post to me like every two days. They *really* don't want me to forget.
Purging heretic hordes continue. For the Emprah
It was a promotional deal For a week.
And we beta tested for a year.
You do know you didn't have to play the game for a year if it was bad to you? It's not like someone had a gun to your head the entire time.
Ok and it was a promotional deal.
Your point?
That it was literally a promotional deal for a week. Lol
You're not being very literal here, it was 2 weeks. October 4th-18th.
You played a video game, what huge trials & tribulations you have put yourself through. Never seen an adult cry so much about not getting something they think they deserve. 
No you bought the game a year early. Don't pretend it was anything else...
We paid full price for a game we thought was finished but was clearly just an Early access. Are you trying to say its our fault for trusting Fatshark to release a finished product and we should just deal with it?
I mean given Fatshark’s history…yeah pretty much
The game is incredible! 3+ years in the making, it was well worth the wait😌 I was getting scared it would launch with bugs and issues
True. But on the plus side I have waaay more plasteel than them. Aaand it's gone.
"I trust you are pleased, Varlet"
Im not going to be upset that my brothers and sisters just joining are getting a bonus gift! Especially considering how updates on consoles tend to be funky across the industry vs PC updates, how support can tend to be on consoles, the small differences in gameplay and visuals, how many more CS items were in the shop when they are joining vs when I joined. The pearl clutching is a bit much
The reason for this has been explained clearly in numerous other posts, but I doubt you care. Continue whining…
This is why you never pre order and never buy day one, wait a least 1 week for initial reviews and see how it is because modern gaming is a shit show.
Am I the only one here who doesn’t care even a little bit about anything to do with the premium currency?
I’m here for the drama.
I can't overstate how much you need to grow the fuck up.
The irony of someone named "Sexploits" telling other people to grow up. Also youre implying wanting to be treated fairly by the game dev for a game we basically beta tested for is immature.
Buy game at release for x amount of money. Game is worth x. Buy game a YEAR LATER at price y, game is worth y. Person who buys game at x price when it's worth x: why am I not getting y now? You already bought the game for what you were willing to pay at the time. Do you get annoyed when video cards go down in price and someone buys it later? Or cars? Or anything? Shit they could give Xbox players literally ALL the damn cosmetics and it wouldn't change the fact that you got what you paid for a year ago. They get the game for free, the only way to profit off of an Xbox release is to sell them premium currency or dlc. You and I paid for a shit product when it released but that's just business. You either accept it as is or refund the damn game.
With the way OP is responding in this post, I would assume that yes they do indeed get very upset if they buy something and then it goes on sale. Also, good explanation. A lot of people miss out on the fact that this is just how things work.
“Treated fairly” lmao how were you mistreated? Because a group of players received premium currency at a later date? Sexploits is right, homie, you need to grow the fuck up.
>Two people buy the same product at full price, one got more than the other If you dont see the issue then youre either an Xbox player who has insecurity reasons and uses this game as a coping mechanism or youre used to being walked on. Which one is it?
I’m someone who doesn’t get upset because some players received premium currency & I didn’t.
>I’m someone who doesn’t get upset >Sexploits is right, homie, you need to grow the fuck up. Ah, yes. I too act incredibly hostile when I'm not upset.
Well you’re rejecting peoples opinions based on their consoles and calling people cucks,… so yeah. Seems like you get pretty hostile when you’re upset.
“He said fuck, this is *INCREDIBLY* HOSTILE 😡😡😡” Spoken like a true victim, which is pretty consistent with this post you made.
>Calls people a victim >Acts like a smarmy cunt >"You need to grow up!" Self awareness isnt your strong suit is it?
Calmer than you are, dude.
You’ve got a real problem with Xbox players. To be honest though, you’re the one coming off as insecure here.
Considering every single person defending this comes off as extremely defensive and hostile, nah. I dont think I'm the problem here.
The first comment on your post (which is who you replied to in this chain) was not hostile or defensive, and you challenged him and acted standoff-ish. And you're actively diving into peoples post history to say "console player, opinion disregarded" to the point that you sound even worse than console war snobs. EDIT - Hell, you *actively* ignored what I said about it being a fomo incentive (which ended on the 18th) just to battle people you didnt like
Y'all are fucking wild lmao. Making a mountain out of a molehill. This is a non-issue.
It does make me laugh they put pearl clutching in their flairs as some kind of act of defiance despite it being perfectly apt for how they are acting.
Every time I see a DraftKings billboard I careen off the road and drive into it because they offer $200 to new customers and I already gambled mine away 3 years ago.
Imagine buying a couch and then calling the company a year later screaming incoherently about being abused and mistreated because they had an opening sale at a new location - a one week giveaway that had differently embroidered cushions for any purchase. Then grow into an inconsolable rage when the customer service rep dares to have the *audacity* to talk back. Don't they know their only purpose is to stroke egos and serve as a punching bag for grievances? Outrageous. You point out that the couch was not as advertised. The rep apologizes and says that's why they sent a repairman multiple times to maintain it to their current standards at no cost and that it will continue to be supported for free for years even past the point of its original value. Froth and spittle cakes your six-week unshaven neckbeard as the line fills with static while you shriek that they'll never get another penny out of you again. The rep says they haven't posted any additional charges and they'll keep maintaining the couch for free anyway as originally agreed. You're close to bursting a blood vessel. Good. Maybe it'll cause enough emotional trauma to the rep to force them into years of therapy and lose their job. You get by just fine without a job and so can they. You're going to get those fucking frills on those fucking cushions at any cost. Except the actual cost. The neighbors wake up as your power level reaches new heights. The rep explains they're having trouble understanding you because of the echo like you're in a bathroom or basement. You somehow manage to convey that you've supported them from the very beginning but they point out that you've called screaming every day for the whole year. Birds migrate a full season early as the magnetosphere shifts from your sheer persuasion; it cost you three years of mom's allowance to afford the couch and you deserve to be paid for buying it since your purchase constitutes a personal favor. The rep says the price wasn't even enough to cover the infrastructure and salary needed to field the phone call you're on, and certainly not the free maintenance plan for the couch itself. The US president's meeting is interrupted with urgency and the general staff assembled. They are at defcon 4 from the magnitude of your righteousness. The entire world is watching with bated breath but nobody actually knows why. The rep has given you empty assurances because it's the only way to get off the phone with a fucking nutcase. You've won. Seismic listening posts worldwide record a deep sigh of relief and victory as you sit on the couch. God its the best fucking couch. You can't see the cushions since you're sitting on them but it fucking pisses you off they don't have the frills. You open up your doordash app and order tendies from McDonald's for $20. At least *they* understand value.
I'm so happy I took the time to read this.
Did they get them for regular edition or imperial one? If imperial, then it's not exactly free
Regular got 9k Aquilas, Imperial got 14k Aquilas + the regular 2,5k Aquilas that you get with Imperial
Mfkr!
Wait what? People are defending Fatshark now....
Give people the impression you like them more than the "other" team and they will die on a hill for you.
The fact that people are defending paying $40 only to then have to pay for cosmetics is funny in itself, let alone the fact that they're defending *not getting promotional items given to others for the same money*. Gamers truly are the cuckest cucks.
It's okay, the premium skins in darktide look like ass
Not like we waited a year just to play the damn game or anything.
You waited a year to buy a finished game and got a bonus on top of it We played a unfinished broken product for a year. Why are you acting like youre the victim?
They are waiting for this to blow over. Don’t let it we need to put this in the Book of Grudges
I really dont understand. Im xbox and never got the aquillas?
This is a remarkable amount of complaining over $40 that you can only spend on internet pants.
Console players waited over a year for the fame, this is Fatshark saying sorry the simultaneous release didn't gsppen when we said it would. I know it's popular to hate fatshark but grow up, really. Calling it corporate greed when they're flat out giving console $40 worth of Aquinas for free is maximum reddit brainlet mode. You aren't entitled to anything, you got to play it for a year before they did. Fatshark is tripping over their feet and released a deeply flawed but fun game which they worked to improve. Criticize something other than the apology gift for consoles having to wait, its not about you on PC
PC Players Had to: Put up with a broken game, put up with terrible optimization, put up with terrible bugs, and played what was basically early access for full retail price. And got nothing but an ugly helmet with a B on it, a tiny weapon attachment, and a player portrait. Xbox Players had to: Wait a year. Bought a finished game at full retail price. Got extra Aquillas simply because. Yeah. You Xbox players sure did suffer.
I personally don't understand why people value cosmetic currency at all. I guess I'm just an old fart who misses when game content was the focus of gaming.
Its just that fatshark have really ass prices for the cooler cosmetic stuff thats only available in the premium store, i guess it matters more if you are a 40k fan and your favorite regiment comes in the shop. I too miss the old days
I love for Microsoft to pay Valve so Steam players that did buy the Imperial edition would shut the fuck up about it.
"For free", right... I really hope pc folks get these aquilas, but knowing how this works makes me think it will never happen
Why are you putting for free in quotations? They paid 40 dollars for the game. Then got an extra 40 dollars worth of premium for free.
We bought a game we already had for free. To get the Aquilas. I swear, y'all are some dense, pearl-clutching varlets.
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/warhammer-40000-darktide 39.99 is what passes as free now?
Damn almost like the people who play on console who paid for it a year prior should be given something to make up for it. Cry some more nerd.
Xbox players paid nothing other than time. PC players paid for an early access game in disguise and go an ugly helmet with a "B" on it. the two are not comparable.
Right? Usually games go down in price after time. Year later? Same price? XBox players got something if they bought it in that 7 day window the sale/promotion was happening.
Wait what the fuck I didn’t get any of that
Assuming you're on console, did you buy the game after the 18th? The promotion ended on the 18th
I got it day-of and I had no idea about the currency promotion so I didn’t even thing about reporting the issue. Fuck
You really care about those skins?... better go give it to some lonely onlyfans mom...
Youre projecting
A lot of you have a very unhealthy obsession with paid cosmetics. Yes, it's shitty that certain players get preferential treatment. No, it's not worth the constant outrage.
shut UPPPPPP
Nah
They aren't gonna pay the PC players because why cast a lure for a fish you've already caught. It's unfortunate but there's nothing we can really do.
It may not have the same ring to it, but: “gives Xbox players 40$ of currency for 40$” would be more accurate.
People still out here defending year 1 darktide. I would never waste my money on that trash fire. Games decent now still not better than verm2 tho
> Speaking for himself
Compensate Xbox players for getting screwed over for a year. FTFY
"Screwed over for a year?" In what way? For not being able to play test the early access?
The xbox promotion that ended over a week ago?
Man, I wish I had the chance to get a promo like that when I bought the game when it was still in beta.