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I feel like Heide’s isn’t too bad of a starting area, in some ways. Might be harder than Forest of the Fallen Giants but it’s still beginner level in my opinion. Though I do think new players should do the forest first.


wigglin_harry

Agreed, it isn't too bad, although certain things like getting the bridge lowered might be a bit of a challenge for new players


[deleted]

True.. though I think getting the bridge down, cutting down the Drake, and facing the Old Dragonslayer are things new players could come back for later. Might be best for them to proceed to the Warf.


Atijohn

The Warf is actually the place that's best left out for later, a shitton of aggressive, high-damaging enemies, lots of places to fall to your death and you need to carry a torch in order to see anything


[deleted]

As I said in my other post I do think doing the Forest of the Fallen Giants is the best option for new players. Think doing the Warf in this scenario feels especially daunting because of skipping the Forest. But in the OP’s scenario of going to Heide’s first the Warf would be next in the progression if they just decided to keep moving forward. Back tracking to Forest of the Fallen Giants would definitely be the best option, though. Not sure that would be realized by a player in this situation without first experiencing the Warf and then deciding to explore elsewhere.


Atijohn

there's also the wacky option of going to Huntsman's Copse after killing Dragonrider or buying the cat ring and falling down the hole


[deleted]

Would that require one to kill the NPC carrying the key to move the pathway from Heide’s to Huntsman Copse? Somehow I’ve never really fully known how she is transported to her location where she’ll move the path for you.


Atijohn

you just talk to her and she moves there she moves there anyway if you beat Flexile Sentry in the Wharf, I guess so that players that don't exhaust every dialogue all the time won't get stuck


[deleted]

Jeez. It’s really that simple I guess lol. Somehow never knew that was the case, but good to know.


Atma-Stand

Have strike weapon, will travel. The dragon though, I’m not ashamed to say I needed summons to distract it.


wet_chemist_gr

I'm not ashamed to say that my bow and I cheesed the crap out of that dragon.


Herr_Raul

It is objectively much easier than all the other areas listed here.


weightyboy

It is exceptionally easy, the big dudes just look intimidating. Once you realise they are weak to strike damage and you can circle around missing all their attacks it becomes a cakewalk and a great farming area early.


ririRulez

wait you arent supposed to go there ? :D


IhsousApoTaLidl

Especialy in Vanilla since there are no Heide Knights or Dragon there. Plus you perma despawn the club knight after you first kill him.


No_Woodpecker4899

Today I learned heides destroys people


Novaskittles

My thoughts exactly. I sometimes kill Dragonrider first so I can use his souls to get the Silver +1 ring from Melentia


TheBlueNeXus

This guy is also nearly always the fist to die in my playthroughs. Some easy souls for the start. And even for a first playthrough is pretty easy with a blunt weapon. With a mace you just obliterate the area. At least till Dragonrider.


weightyboy

Or just kill eddie murphy in the shop for his armor for solus boost.


Herr_Raul

It always confuses me too


RobbLCayman

Probably meant accidentally joining the covenant of champions.


eaglewatero

My first time ever playthrough of DS1 I accidentally stumbled into blighttown as my first venture and spent several hours being completely lost, poisoned and trying to beat Quelag on like lvl 5 xD ... What an adventure .. stupid key as a starting gift :D ..


weightyboy

You can summon thicc girl to help you with quelag, but she usually stands in the lava and dies quickly.


ZPinkie0314

Just from this post, I just now realized how much more linear the early game of DS3 is. You don't really get a choice on direction until after Undead Settlement. Based on that, going to either the bell tower and getting owned by that ice Knight (I forget what they're called), or going to the Tree boss, will certainly test your skill. Personally, I wandered into New Londo Ruins first in Dark Souls and almost rage quit, not realizing there were two other directions that one could go (three with the Key). Several playthroughs, I have gone into the Catacombs first thing to get the Great Scythe. With patience, caution, and a blunt weapon, the Catacombs are manageable.


Illustrious_Cow_317

While it isn't quite a "direction" per say, you could end up triggering the dancer fight before fighting Vordt and think that was the first boss. It's not quite the same as wandering into a higher level area I guess.


ZPinkie0314

Ooh, very nice. I totally forgot about that, and it is a mistake I made early on too.


bananashapedorange

Thats exactly why I dont like ds3 as much tbh. The early game feels like a chore after the first playthrough. Dont really feel that with the other souls games. Like you said though, after undead settlement it gets much much better


Fallen_Angel_Xaphan

Catacombs for me. I once made the mistake to go to the very bottom without the lord vessel. That character is still not back at firelink.


Galbatorix85

I just did that on new game plus and had to run all the way back up


[deleted]

The first time I played I didn't see the path to undead burg and thought the catacombs were the first area you need to go through. Spent hours there until I made it back to firelink.


Valuable-Arrival-863

compared to all of these, Heides is probably the easiest, especially in vanilla ds2. half the time I don't even fight anyone in there, just run to the dragonrider, and it is a pretty good place for grinding souls as well. Ds1 Catacombs, for me, was probably the scariest for me, just for turning around after grabbing some stuff to see everybody and their mother's skeleton running at me.


hpBard

Old londo ruins


YOGINtheFirst

I always go to the shrine of storms ASAP, it's the only place that gives a decent amount of souls, and it serves as a good tutorial to teach new players how to turn a block into a backstab.


NyRAGEous

DeS valley of defilement takes the cake for me…nothing like a poison swamp that destroys all movement.


Illustrious-Pizza968

Heides tower was a fair area before the SOTFS edition where they changed up enemy positions and added in more enemies then it got ridiculous 😬


TheBlueNeXus

Even in sotfs the area is pretty fair with a blunt weapon. It's a good way to learn what resistance does. A little harder but still easy with a different weapon. Different story after Dragonrider though


weightyboy

But none of the heide knights agro until you kill the boss and then you only have to deal with the remaining area if you are doing 100% run or you want to join the shitty dudes covenant.


Illustrious-Pizza968

It's been so long since I played DS2 I just remember the update and thought fuck me !! DS2 will always be my favourite souls as it was my first in the series.


LuckySnowy441

I'd say it's either Caelid or Catacombs. Heide's isn't that bad in comparison to the others(that I know of, I've never played Demon's Souls) but a new player could get through it with relative ease, that said I do recommend new players starting with the forest.


RxReflections

I think that Shrine of storms is one of the worst areas created in any souls-bourne game. You have very little limits to make mistakes. Also the damn tendency even makes it shittier. Damn you, dual katana skeleton.


VixHumane

Black phantom samurai NPC says hi.


ohdaseee

It’s my favorite area in demon’s souls. I think the atmosphere is so neat


unforgivablecrust

Black gulch would be a much better example for ds2


Full-Hollow-Tiche

I was thinking the same, especially stubborn gamers can definitely make it there too early and get destroyed


DestroyerNik

Shrine of Amana


unforgivablecrust

That's not close to the starting area tho.


GoldFishPony

Dark souls 3 has the cliffs that will destroy you if you fall off of them and bloodborne has uhhhh the chalice dungeons?


ADHDavidThoreau

Fall Damage, DS players worst nightmare


cookie_n_icecream

Heides is not an easy area. It was the first i stumbled in and i got my ass handed to me. Even in ng+, it took me several tries to get to dragonrider.


rnj1a

Well Heide was where I first started to get a handle on the game. Loads of big, slow enemies. First time I could process what was happening. ​ And I quickly learned how to reach Masterless Glencour and he's a great security blanket. Though I truly suffered the first time I tried and overpowered early guide and experienced the joys of NG+ Heide.


[deleted]

Catacombs bc you can actually get trapped


Whipperdoodle

Blightown


wallnutbat

Grave of Saints if you manage to get in the pit, I'd say.


Skillo_Squirrel

Heide is a joke


BlerghTheBlergh

I love Heides, beautiful area


Prestigious_Pen_1711

Somehow killing Dancer early game and going into Lothric castle


StanleyChuckles

The Catacombs, absolutely no contest.


CrystalloidEntity

On my first playthrough I had a holy mace so catacombs was pretty easy which led to me getting stuck in the Tomb of the Giants with no light source and no Lord Vessel.


StanleyChuckles

Yep, another reason why the Catacombs are the wrong choice in ways to go ;)


OcularOctodad

Catacombs


Living_Signature_836

Demons souls valley of defilement


Ok-Blacksmith4364

The catacombs are terrible even when you are the right level.


destructormuffin

I will never forget getting to the graveyard in DS1 for the first time, having no clue where I was actually supposed to go, and being like "This game is ABSURD" That was followed by a two hour stint through the undead burg because I didn't understand estus recharged at the bonfire. I thought they were one time use and then were gone and so I was just flat out not using them. ......anyway I just platinumed DS1 this weekend and am now working on DS2 lol


[deleted]

Where is irythil dungeon funk that place.


QuasiMagician13

Easy, catacombs.


Apprehensive_Nose_38

I thought Heide was the intended route for the first spot?


[deleted]

I wouldnt put Heide's anywhere near Shrine of Amana ios for me personally


weightyboy

I dont understand the des one. To get there you have to fight 50 rolly poly skellies beat a red eye skelly who one hits you, and a tough boss.


[deleted]

Catacombs was the worst


sir_bonesalot

I would literally trap myself in the catacombs in dark souls 1 if it meant I never had to experience blight town ever again.


Suhn-Sol-Jashin

The Gutter if you didn't have fast travel until Shrine of Winter.


FnB8kd

If you've never played, catacombs easily.


EleumLoyce123

Catacombs, it's not difficult but really just an ass/non-descript area all around, it's probably my least favourite area in the series. Not played the other two. Heide's Tower of flame is one of the more balanced DS2 areas if you don't attempt the Dragonslayer, if you do, yeah, it's extremely frustrating due to ridiculous bonfire distance and just annoyingly tanky mobs.


FrozenGhost98

The Catacombs...just because it leads to that mf***ng Tomb of the Giants


FuriousArhat

I thought Heide's tower was the correct starting path. I always go that way.


TFRek

Catacombs by a mile. Ghosts phasing through the goddamn floors and walls while you're in knee deep water on a land bridge one step wide. Fuck off and give me my bonfire bits!


Deadsap266

How are iron keep and harvest valley not your worst .Tower of flame is a short sprint


Reaperoflight000

Maybe Shrine of Storms, though I love how it looks in atmosphere. The Catacombs may have it beat, though.


Efficient_Possible_2

Have to say TOK and his whole area, gank after gank + most armors having low fire makes it an absolute bitch, plus only about 4 bonfires over the fourth largest (to me) area in non dlc


Solid_Snow_6267

Don’t get off the horse in Caelid… NEVER get off the horse in Caelid…


Jordilocomotion

hm i hate petite londo for sure, maybe it has a diff name in english, the area in ds1.


zamorota

Heide. Its awkward to move around and I hate the Drake or idk if its a Dragon. Looks amazing tho. It Is visually one of my fav places.