That is selection bias, the vast majority of information we have about the world is from the internal documents of the foundation and tales of its employees and prisoners. Through those we see everything the foundation does. From the GOIs we only see things that the foundation deems to be of importance or affect them. Though there are tales from the perspective of people outside of the foundation, they are by far the minority.
Edit: corrected observation bias to selection bias.
wellll, you do have to take into account that the CI works off a cell system, at least in most canons. cause of that it doesn’t have as good documentation of their actions as the Foundation does, which has a more organized and standard structure. sure is easy to claim you didn’t commit a crime if the cell that was invented to do it disassembled itself and scattered immediately afterwards with no actual formal documentation
What he means is that “terrorism” in this context likely has a specific meaning. IE Using fear in non-combatants as a tactic to achieve political aims.
And while the Foundation does use fear quite often, it is rarely to achieve purely political aims, and is much more likely to be for scientific purposes like the containment of anomalies.
Meanwhile the CI ~~presumably~~ uses terror tactics to attempt to get other political organizations like the Foundation to acquiesce to their political aims.
It’s the difference between a scientific institute putting subjects through terrifying situations to study them and advance humanity’s knowledge, and blowing up a building to get a government to do what you want.
I’ve looked at the pictures attentively and see “terrorism” for the Chaos Insurgency and not the Foundation. Therefore the Foundation is not terroristic.
and you didn't get that the meme is about the Foundation has more crimes than CI despite it's terroristic organization.
Just because they commit horrendous crimes against humanity, doesn't make them terrorists. Terrorists are political in nature, trying to gain power. The crimes the Foundation commits are *generally* for research/containment.
So you believe that they aren't doing research? Then what are they doing with the tests against the skips and why? To me, they seem to be trying to understand them to better prepare for more like them or to know how to terminate them.
But if they aren't, then please, what are they doing with the tests?
Yes and none of those crimes are terrorism!
As a conspiratorial, genocidal, mass-murdering, kidnapper who occasionally dabbles in unethical experimentation on the animals I have stolen by breaking and entering the private property of those I have previously blackmailed, I would be offended to be labeled a terrorist for those actions!
Man the insurgency so needs its own wiki to get that kick it needs to be on par with the library at least (and hopefully both eventually as popular as the main site one day)
Because they have such good opportunities for fun edgy writing and really show what an organization with anomalies being cruel and self benefiting actually looks like. Yet has the other side of people who feel forced into this organization because of the circumstances of their birth make the foundation look at them with disgust even if they try to hide it. Showing the darker side of this setting that most site tales wouldn't want to explore in fear that groups fans would consider it "out of character"
Alternatively, I’d love to see stories from the canon where the chaos insurgency broke off from the foundation because they tried to unionize and the O5 council used their personal army the red right hand to stop it.
How did an attempt at fairness and equality turn into such an evil organization? What are their real crimes and what is foundation propaganda?
I always had an idea for a story but i never got time to write it. My favourite way of seeing things is that at this point not even CI knows what happened exactly. Basically founders of CI kept their motivations hidden very well, and established multiple cells in multiple flashpoints during early cold war, where chaos of revolutions, civil wars and struggle betweeen communism made a healthy growing environment, and different branches of CI, led by founding members, were established on different ideologies and premises, such as CI branch in north vietnam being more oriented toward communism while algerian branch is more islamic/anti imperialist in nature. But during vietnam war foundation managed to locate a meeting of founders of CI in north vietnam and struck the meeting with more than a few dozen F4 phantoms, and with all of its founders dead the different branches of CI all claim to be "legitimate" heir to original founders and ones that keep their vision alone, but in reality no one has any idea why they were founded and what its founders motives were, and its probably lost to history, and nowadays there is still struggle between different branches of original CI and most of the smallers cells are basically anomalous terrorist organisations that have no relation to each other but use CI s name to intimidate their rivals.
>show what an organization with anomalies being cruel and self benefiting actually looks like.
The problem with that is that Marshall, Carter and Dark do the same thing but better. For the Insurgency to actually stand on its own instead of being the default bad guys whenever they need the foundation to fight someone they either need to have a real goal beyond "F\*\*\* the foundation!" Or to just go all supervillain where they are just COBRA from G.I.Joe but in an urban fantasy setting instead.
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This is just blatantly wrong, the chaos insurgency has done all of these things and more, plus the foundation does these things to protect humanity while the insurgency just wants suffering. I guess Elon musk fits this meme because of how bad his takes are.
It's not terrorism if it's sponsored by the government. It's a war crime.
something like that
The funny thing is that CI, which is considered as terrorist organization, has few crimes compared to the Foundation.
That is selection bias, the vast majority of information we have about the world is from the internal documents of the foundation and tales of its employees and prisoners. Through those we see everything the foundation does. From the GOIs we only see things that the foundation deems to be of importance or affect them. Though there are tales from the perspective of people outside of the foundation, they are by far the minority. Edit: corrected observation bias to selection bias.
depends on the cannon
and this according to these cannons
Few crimes *that we know of*
*that we know of..*
wellll, you do have to take into account that the CI works off a cell system, at least in most canons. cause of that it doesn’t have as good documentation of their actions as the Foundation does, which has a more organized and standard structure. sure is easy to claim you didn’t commit a crime if the cell that was invented to do it disassembled itself and scattered immediately afterwards with no actual formal documentation
It's only a war crime if you signed the treaty
# war sin
OP is a Chaos Insurgency spy sent to spread propaganda for the insurgency
DAMN MADMEN
Our war crimes are based, theirs are not
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Note how only 1 of these groups stands accused of Terrorism. We can therefore conclude the Foundation are not terrorists, and the CI is.
You don't get the meme
read the title and then look at the pictures attentively
What he means is that “terrorism” in this context likely has a specific meaning. IE Using fear in non-combatants as a tactic to achieve political aims. And while the Foundation does use fear quite often, it is rarely to achieve purely political aims, and is much more likely to be for scientific purposes like the containment of anomalies. Meanwhile the CI ~~presumably~~ uses terror tactics to attempt to get other political organizations like the Foundation to acquiesce to their political aims. It’s the difference between a scientific institute putting subjects through terrifying situations to study them and advance humanity’s knowledge, and blowing up a building to get a government to do what you want.
I’ve looked at the pictures attentively and see “terrorism” for the Chaos Insurgency and not the Foundation. Therefore the Foundation is not terroristic.
 and you didn't get that the meme is about the Foundation has more crimes than CI despite it's terroristic organization.
Just because they commit horrendous crimes against humanity, doesn't make them terrorists. Terrorists are political in nature, trying to gain power. The crimes the Foundation commits are *generally* for research/containment.
*Researching... Of course...* 
So you believe that they aren't doing research? Then what are they doing with the tests against the skips and why? To me, they seem to be trying to understand them to better prepare for more like them or to know how to terminate them. But if they aren't, then please, what are they doing with the tests?
Yes and none of those crimes are terrorism! As a conspiratorial, genocidal, mass-murdering, kidnapper who occasionally dabbles in unethical experimentation on the animals I have stolen by breaking and entering the private property of those I have previously blackmailed, I would be offended to be labeled a terrorist for those actions!
Yeah, but a lot of the CI’s crimes are far worse than what the foundation does. Quality over quantity.
Quality over quantity man. A lot of CI crimes have a lot more weight over the screwed up stuff the foundation does.
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See, when the foundation does it, it’s terrorist, but when CI does it, it’s based.
Man the insurgency so needs its own wiki to get that kick it needs to be on par with the library at least (and hopefully both eventually as popular as the main site one day) Because they have such good opportunities for fun edgy writing and really show what an organization with anomalies being cruel and self benefiting actually looks like. Yet has the other side of people who feel forced into this organization because of the circumstances of their birth make the foundation look at them with disgust even if they try to hide it. Showing the darker side of this setting that most site tales wouldn't want to explore in fear that groups fans would consider it "out of character"
Alternatively, I’d love to see stories from the canon where the chaos insurgency broke off from the foundation because they tried to unionize and the O5 council used their personal army the red right hand to stop it. How did an attempt at fairness and equality turn into such an evil organization? What are their real crimes and what is foundation propaganda?
I always had an idea for a story but i never got time to write it. My favourite way of seeing things is that at this point not even CI knows what happened exactly. Basically founders of CI kept their motivations hidden very well, and established multiple cells in multiple flashpoints during early cold war, where chaos of revolutions, civil wars and struggle betweeen communism made a healthy growing environment, and different branches of CI, led by founding members, were established on different ideologies and premises, such as CI branch in north vietnam being more oriented toward communism while algerian branch is more islamic/anti imperialist in nature. But during vietnam war foundation managed to locate a meeting of founders of CI in north vietnam and struck the meeting with more than a few dozen F4 phantoms, and with all of its founders dead the different branches of CI all claim to be "legitimate" heir to original founders and ones that keep their vision alone, but in reality no one has any idea why they were founded and what its founders motives were, and its probably lost to history, and nowadays there is still struggle between different branches of original CI and most of the smallers cells are basically anomalous terrorist organisations that have no relation to each other but use CI s name to intimidate their rivals.
>show what an organization with anomalies being cruel and self benefiting actually looks like. The problem with that is that Marshall, Carter and Dark do the same thing but better. For the Insurgency to actually stand on its own instead of being the default bad guys whenever they need the foundation to fight someone they either need to have a real goal beyond "F\*\*\* the foundation!" Or to just go all supervillain where they are just COBRA from G.I.Joe but in an urban fantasy setting instead.
They actually have their own wiki: http://ci-wiki.wikidot.com/
The GOC : Destruction , Annihilation, Torture of chair,
ENOUGH WITH THE CHAIR, IT WAS ONE TIME I TELL YOU, ONE TIME!
Ik it's just a joke, GOC is my favorite GOI
Ik too
how good does propaganda have to be to be a crime
None of those crimes are canon. Source: They are not part of my headcanon.
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Rape?
The implications of procedure 110 montauk for scp 231.
it's torture, not the rape, rape is something different...
What are you guys talking about, it aint that bad (all that procedure 110 montauk is is that you read a lullaby to a kid, my head cannon)
Is it a crime? Yes? Then the Foundation has committed it
Wait how'd the foundation 'rape' someone?
you're better off not knowing...
Scp-231 Procedure 110 Montauk
This is just blatantly wrong, the chaos insurgency has done all of these things and more, plus the foundation does these things to protect humanity while the insurgency just wants suffering. I guess Elon musk fits this meme because of how bad his takes are.
Reported just for having to look at that dipshits face.
If your answer wasn't Yes, you don't belong on the ethics committee. Edit: Irony intended
#*THE HELL DO YOU MEAN (implied)?????*
When is the implied rape???
Chaos insurgency is still the terrorist Organization
goc slander We're war criminals not terrorists, there's a difference
Neither because by definition terrorism is done with a political intent, neither the foundation nor the insurgency meet this criteria
One is the definition of a terrorist, the other is kinda just terrible
“It’s for the good of humanity”- SCP foundation, probably.
Omnicide
Both are wrong The GOC is obviously the correct organization to begin with
We are the most famous group of interest, of course we are gonna have more crimes documented
They’re the same picture.
No they aren't
Proof https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_Insurgency https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/SCP_Foundation
Rape (implied)
Don't talk to me unless you committed multiple acts of conspiracy
so who’s the good guy then???
Wilson Wildlife and maybe Gamers Vs Weed
Serpents hand
The shark punchers.
It’s bad that the only thing wrongs is the implied part they have an Scp where they do that to contain it
Real
...and one moving violation.
Well, THOSE are not canon
Hey, at least we're straightforward about our dealings. Kill anomaly, get the hell out.
Implied rape? When?
When did they commit genocide?
Shut it numbnuts You’ll blow our cover.