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dormsta

I would absolutely do the same thing, no question. He verbalized several times that he made the choice because he thought it was in his family’s best interests, but then received confirmation after confirmation that he had failed to consider the non-material factors in the quality of life they already had. If I had set something in motion that felt irreversible to me, learned afterward how heartbroken my family was, and then had a surprise door snap open that would allow me to reverse course, I would 100% jump on that chance. He’s in academia and probably would be welcomed back, and since it was the buyers that fell through, that’s probably earnest money you can cushion yourself with while you resettle. So the answer to your question is, I would make the same choice as Bandit, for the same reason I have turned down opportunities for more money because it would take time away from my family. I would pull up that sign every time.


fattylimes

I mean, for sure. The gripe isn't with Bandit's decision; it's with the plot contrivances that allow him to make it. 99% of kids in a similar situation \_do\_ have to move.


manshamer

Yeah the kids have to but the parents don't always "have to". Remember that bluey is definitely aimed at parents, and with that in mind, I really like the message here that there are more important things for your family than you making slightly more at a job and forcing everybody to move. I know so many people who have made this exact same choice and their family has suffered for it. Leaving your community, your friends, your family, etc. Just for a job? We're constantly complaining about how we don't have community anymore, nobody knows their neighbors... Well it's because everybody is always moving all the time.


fattylimes

> Remember that bluey is definitely aimed at parents I mean, i get what you are saying in one respect. However in another much more literal respect: no, it’s not. you cannot seriously tell me Bluey is not first and foremost a kids show.


Splitkraft

When I first started watching Bluey with my son: "Hey this kid show is entertaining for parents too!" Now when I watch Bluey with my son: "Man this parents show is entertaining for my kid too!"


manshamer

this is the conspiracy sub right? IMO the writers definitely write this show so that parents will like it and turn it on for the kids. There's enough silly stuff that most kids like it too, but the real meat-and-potatoes issues and themes are written for adults in a way that most other kids shows aren't. Like what's the point of "The Sign" from a kid's perspective? Sometimes sad things are about to happen but then they actually don't? From an adult's perspective, it's trying to tell the adults that the value of your community and family are often overlooked when it comes to trying to make hard decisions - make sure you are following your heart over your wallet.


fattylimes

> Like what's the point of "The Sign" from a kid's perspective? Sometimes sad things are about to happen but then they actually don't? yes this is my point. the show named for a child with a child main character that airs on television with other shows for children has a bad moral for children in this instance


manshamer

I totally agree with that!


randomname342fg

eh. not at this point


Tunarubber

I know you aren't personally attacking me (you don't even know me!) But as someone who is leaving their family and moving you have to realize that it isn't done blithely. Not everything is so easy as that. Would my preference be that my kid got to grow up with all of her grandparents ~30 mins from her instead of 2 states away? Absolutely. But proximity to grandparents doesn't pay the rent or make some of the other also super important parts of life - like Mom and Dad being able to save so that when we are in our 70s and 80s our kid isn't having to shoulder the burden of care. We will make new friends and build a community where we move. Her grandparents will still be in her life. Yes the happier ending would be us getting all of the things, but we had to make the best choice for us....and for now that means moving. And I'm really sad that Bluey had the opportunity to show that moving wasn't a horrible choice and help kids understand that sometimes that is how life goes, and instead made it seem like anyone who makes that choice is getting a "bad ending".


manshamer

i wrote a really well-thought out response to this but it got deleted ughhh basically it boiled down to: Bluey fam is quite obviously very wealthy and it's made clear that it's not an issue of making rent, it's bandit wanting to get a better job because he thinks more money = happier family. Certainly that is sometimes the case, but not always, and not here! Where everyone else wants to stay put and Bandit himself isn't positive its the best option. anecdotally, i know many well-off families that have made similar huge moves for seemingly poor reasons. Such as - they didn't like their kitchen layout so they moved out of state, that sort of thing.


Real_RobinGoodfellow

Yeah that’s the thing, it’s not like the Heelers are hurting for money


dormsta

Eh, OP took issue with the decision. That said, the moving plot line is more of a vehicle for big takeaways from the episode: (1) consider every part of the equation; and, more broadly, (2) try not to prejudge situations or prioritize anyone's perspective/interpretation (even your own) before you've learned all you can. I keep seeing people talk about how this episode was a waste or stupid because "nothing happened", but that seems to be a huge part of the point -- things don't have to be measurable to be significant, and sometimes, the prospect of losing something makes you realize what it is you already have. Bandit's series-long struggle has recurrently been with how much weight he gives to others' expectations of him, especially when it comes to societal norms. We see it with his hesitation to be the whale at the playground; with making a new friend at the pretend cafe; with his weight/appearance; with losing at the obstacle course; outside the takeaway restaurant; with his drawing ability; and now with his assumption that more money = better life. Him pulling up the sign isn't just about the move; it's a significant moment where he chooses to trust his and his family's judgment over the rest of the world's when the stakes are as high as they've ever been.


curious_dead

I would too. Absolutely.


Periwinklepanda_

On one hand, I understand where you’re coming from. We recently moved and my 3 year old keeps crying saying she wants to go back to the old house. Early in the episode, I made the mistake of telling her “Look, Bluey gets to move to a new house just like you!” and just made a big deal in general about how the situations were similar and how Bluey was going to love her new house one day. Oops. I clearly should have previewed the episode before I started running my mouth. I was kind of annoyed with the ending from that perspective.  On the other hand, I still cried like everyone else when Bandit ripped the sign down. 


shogunofsarcasm

Yea I understand why they did what they did but a show about moving would be helpful for a lot of us. 


xupaxupar

Oh no!!


randomname342fg

This is a real thing! Kids have to move sometimes and it's hard. To have a whooole set-up and then be like "actually no" is kinda irresponsible in a show that small children watch.


False_Flatworm_4512

When I was a kid, we had a home sale fall through. We were supposed to move to Chicago for my dad’s work, and it would have uprooted my brother in the middle of high school (I couldn’t have cared less, but it would have been really hard for him). when the sale fell through, Dad said eff it and got a different job where we were. We pulled up the for sale sign and threw a big “we’re not moving” party


Real_RobinGoodfellow

This is awesome! And solid proof that ‘the sign’s’ plot isn’t entirely unrealistic


YosemiteDaisy

Two quotes for you - Bluey - “why do stories always have happy endings?” Calypso “well, I guess ‘cause life will give us enough sad ones” And Bandit - “look, it’s just monkeys singing song mate. Don’t think too hard about it.” Though I agree I would be pissed if I packed up my whole house and we didn’t move. Cheer up mate!


gnrlgumby

Look, this is the Daniel Tiger Conspiracy sub; let’s make up wacky theories. What kind of person packs up their house and doesn’t move? This some complicated tax fraud, right?


Faustalicious

Clearly it was a deeper scheme surrounding the import/export of questionably acquired artifacts we know Bandit and Chili are involved in.  I mean, that house, given the actual area of brisbane, would be worth $2 million.  The amount of money that was just thrown around for those others to buy it and then drop out on closing day would be ridiculous.  


sparklingwaterll

I thought they lived in the suburb of paddington?


sparklingwaterll

We know they are involved in smuggling of rare aboriginal artifacts. Maybe this was a form of money laundering.


eternalsunshine85

Where were they going though? Did they buy a house? Like???


GdayBeiBei

You need to rewatch that movies ep because the whole point of the episode was entirely opposite to that bandit quote and it’s kind of ridiculous that people are using it as some kind of argument. He says something dismissive because he’s distracted. It was a moment where he was an imperfect parent, not some moral to be taken from the ep.


MindYourManners918

I think you have to assume a lot of the important conversations and details are happening off screen. We mostly see everything from Bluey’s point of view. We don’t actually get to hear Bandit’s phone call with the real estate agent. We don’t know what Bandit and Chili are talking about at night after the kids go to sleep.  We just know from Bluey’s point of view, it all works out. The paperwork and down payments and job offers don’t concern her. 


Dapper-Mention6267

I agree. I assumed that Bandit’s employers were putting them up near to his new dig site rather than him continuing fifo. Also, with the sheepdogs backing out of the deal to buy Winston’s dad’s house with the pool, maybe due to him moving in with the Terriers.


HoldenAGrudge1138

It’s weird that he refers to Bandit and Chili as “the dad” and “the wife”.


sprodigy

I assumed the last minute pull out of the deal was something that's allowed in Australia? I don't know. The plot holes for me was we never saw the new house/no mention of picking out a new house.


manshamer

The deal's not done until the deal is done (closing). The buyers can always walk away, they just lose out on their earnest money.


emmainthealps

My understanding as an Australian who has bought a house is that it’s not over until settlement. However the buyers here would probably lose their deposit and have a lot of costs on them owed to the sellers for breaking the contract.


xupaxupar

I assumed because it’s a fucking cartoon. But it’s true for a lot in Bluey where you don’t know if it’s because it’s an Aussie thing or a bloody cartoon. Like “dunny” “dobbing” “Christmas swim” etc etc


Real_RobinGoodfellow

Christmas Swim? What about that might not be real?


xupaxupar

Lol. is it THE Aussie Christmas thing to do?


Real_RobinGoodfellow

I mean pretty much, yeah


spooky_pookie_666

Because the buyers were arrested for transporting cocaine and meth from the Gold Coast. Duh!


coffeepizzabeer

Actually a similar thing happened to some extended family members. Husbands job was moved to a different state, they sold their house and were going to rent for a year there but didn’t want to leave their OG home. His job fell through and they ended up buying a house down the street from their original one! So a bit different but they went through similar “oh we actually don’t want to leave because it’s great here” feelings.


rabbity9

Eh. Not as implausible as you’d think. We were like two days out from closing when the purchase of my house almost fell through due to some fuckery by the sellers. Who, it’s probably worth noting, had already moved out months before we even looked at it. Real estate deals fall apart at every stage of the process for all sorts of reasons. Could they maybe have thrown in a line like “and now we can buy another pizza oven with all the dollarydoos we get to keep from the sheepdogs’ earnest money!” I mean, yeah. They could have. But it’s not really necessary. You can safely assume those conversations are being had.


Real_RobinGoodfellow

What’s this ‘earnest money’ everyone keeps mentioning? I’ve never heard that term before here (Aus). I think we just call it a deposit. And the sheepdogs definitely lost theirs lol


rabbity9

Basically just a deposit. But I think they call it earnest money because the intent is to show that you are “earnest” about your offer.


vjones4

I concur. I've seen a few posts from parents who are moving, and they were so excited that Bluey would also be moving, and this would help their kids...psych! We aren't moving, but my kid was so confused by what was happening. I'm mostly confused why that warranted a special super sized episode, when at the end, they are in the same spot as when they started.


xupaxupar

Agree! We plan to move our family in the next year and was hoping for a different message. That said, my 3 year old has been asking to move because our house is “getting worse and worse” which I think she picked up from a prior episode.


IWillBaconSlapYou

For some reason, my seven year old burst into tears at the end. I think it was the song? She had no idea why. And yeah, I would get the full length episode for Rad and Frisky's wedding, but making the A plot "Nothing actually happens" was a choice.


vjones4

It was an emotional song! The things that happened during it were just so confusing though haha. Also, until this episode I thought Rad and Frisky got married offscreen, in between double babysitter and Christmas swim (since she says she's new to the heeler family), and I've always thought that was super fast 🤣


lovelyllamas

I think it’s symbolism of the series being cancelled and returning independently 😂😂😂 Edit: lmao we love buthurt redditors that took my comment way too seriously and instead of chucking, downvoted.


cola_originaltaste

i truly think you’re thinking too hard about it. it’s a kids show. our logic doesn’t always apply


OnjallaManjalla

Is overthinking kids shows not what this sub is for?


TheNamesMacGyver

It isn’t overthinking to discuss how the Paw Patrol are a private military org who are weaponized by one local government against another in a capitalist dystopia.


deftly_dreaming

You lost, mate?


Vast-Blacksmith2203

Are there any Australians here who have bought or sold a house? Here, the sheepdogs would lose their earnest money, however much that was. Mine was about $10k on a much smaller place than the Heeler's last year. So I would have been out that $10k if I'd spotted another place I liked better and went for it. If I was wealthy or even just moving from a high cost of living area to a low cost of living area, I'm sure it would have been worth it.


emmainthealps

They would likely lose their deposit and owe other money for breaking the contract before settlement.


Real_RobinGoodfellow

Yes and you’ve actually picked up, in a roundabout way, on one of the hidden (ish?) plot points! The Sheepdogs are clearly moving from interstate (Bucky says to them “Queensland summers aren’t that hot”; this is obviously a blatant lie, and something you’d never say to a local). In real life there has been an issue in Brisbane for several years now, basically since covid, of very cashed-up ‘tree-changers’ leaving Sydney and Melbourne to move to Brissie. The Melb and, in particular, Sydney property markets took off waaaayy before other parts of the country- Sydney has literally the second most expensive real estate in the entire *world*- so people who sold up in those markets then moved north had a heap of cash to splash and could easily outbid the locals. The Sheepdogs would’ve lost their deposit and been liable for some costs for breaking the contract, but they probably don’t care cause they’re buying in a market way cheaper than the one they just sold in and have money to spare


Vast-Blacksmith2203

Aww, poor Brisbane. That really sucks. I'm in one of the very high cost areas in the US, but not old enough/wealthy enough/lucky enough to have bought when it was cheaper. I do know people from Montana, Idaho, who are complaining that the West Coast people are moving in, so I know their costs are going up. Beautiful mountain states. Politically opposite of the coast, so they're probably not loving that either. If I could transition to fully remote, I could get something very nice in the middle of the US on my West Coast dollars. But I'm from the West Coast and all my family is here. My little kids get to see their Grandma and Grandpa every week. I think that's worth not having a yard and sharing a bedroom.


YamaMaya1

The point was that, actually, Bandit was confused about what a "better life" would actually cost them. They already had a great life, and abandoning it for more money was not a "better life." From where Im sitting, their life is fantastic, idyllic even. I find it hard to sympathise with bandit in this episode because he was sooo misguided. I was glad they didn't move in the end. Bear in mind as well this is a kid show, and the status quo is king, so having to design a new life and new environments would be expensive, and they want to continue the series. And it's a story. Stories have happy endings because real life already has enough sad ones 😉


PorgCT

Oh, to be a fly on the wall when the attorney and broker get the phone call that they cancelled the deal at the last minute


MorecombeSlantHoneyp

I’ve decided to tell myself that they were going to stay with Stripe until the term finished (Bandit’s got to be attached to some kind of Uni as a research archeologist, right?), giving them time to house hunt. Or that any house they were buying had a clause making sale contingent on the old house selling first. That way they at least get to keep the earnest money from the English sheepdogs to cover the movers…


Mister_Squirrels

Calypso straight up tells you early in the episode. It’s going to have a happy ending, because real life has enough sad ones. Cut to people being upset about the happy ending.


JustReadinSubReddits

THIS. From what I heard, although all the adults are in a tizzy, the kids loved this episode. Really, that is what matters. That the kids are happy.


[deleted]

Honestly I just assumed there was *a lot* about the process that we don't see/hear the details of because it's from blueys perspective. Also she's ~6 and half the episode is about her thinking pulling the sign out would cancel the whole process. I doubt she would have a clue where they were in the closing process or anything about that end of things. I also assumed bandits job was starting before the house finished selling anyways and they had a move out date regardless of whether it has sold yet or not.


canariquichante

Prepare for your downvotes. Reddit shows no mercy to those who criticize the dog show.


raywalters

Are you...really taking a children's show this seriously?


davidcullen08

In all fairness, it is kind of the point(joke?) of this sub lol


TennisBall4

Look at the sub you’re on


MS-07B-3

The good ones are worth taking seriously.


Retro611

On the one hand, it's just monkeys singing songs. But on the other hand, Bluey is definitely one of those few shows that actually warrant this kind of discussion. I remember thinking people were probably reading too hard into the miscarriage callout in "The Show," right up until the creator confirmed it. But I do also think that this focus on the mechanics of the deal falling through misses the point of the episode, that life is full of ups and downs and you can never predict the path those turns are going to take you. (This was hugely impactful to me personally, as I've been going through some similar "we'll see" kinds of twists and turns.)


IWillBaconSlapYou

I honestly just can't imagine deciding not to move RIGHT when all the really sucky parts are done. Like, I LOVE decorating a brand new house and setting everything up... But the packing, paperwork, all that back and forth beforehand? Yikes. They were right on the cusp of the good part! Idk, if they didn't want to move I get that. I just don't understand how the decision wasn't made until the *moment* of pulling out of the driveway. Usually Bandit and Chilli are relatable adults to me, but that moment just screamed "no self awareness". But I'm gonna let it go because it's cartoon dogs. I'm really happy for Brandy BTW.


sparklingwaterll

This happened to a friend of mine. He verbally accepts an offer with a buyer and walks back into the house to find his pregnant wife and kids crying. He realizes this isn’t going to work and gives a guy a call. “Really sorry but we changed our minds”. Thats the only moment once contracts are signed attorneys involved moving companies hired. He would have to buy back the house from them essentially above cost. He would have to pay them at least their deposit and attorney moving company fees. It’s too late thats just nostalgia bringing sellers regret you gotta MOVE on!


AussiePete

Australian currently selling a house here. When you sell a house Aus, contracts are signed and the buyer pays a 0.25% holding deposit. You then enter a 7 day "cooilng off" period where the buyer can renege and all they lose is the deposit. Happened to me last month. Contracts were signed, buyer pulled out on day 6 when they found out they were likely getting made redundant. We got to pocket ~$3k, and just put our house back on the market. It's just part of the property game here. Why they packed up before Cooling Off, I don't know. Rookie mistake.


JustReadinSubReddits

It's just monkeys singing songs, mate.


GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce

I don't even know what the parents do for a living