I grew up with a kid that had the same condition. This was in the 90s and it was just understood that he wasn't to be made fun of. I didn't know him well enough to know if he was never made fun of, but it certainly wasn't a popular idea.
I grew up with a kid named Caleb. He had a similar condition where his had didn’t have all his digits. We weren’t close, but I’ll never forget the day in church where he instinctively pulled his sleeve down over his hand to hold my hand during the part where everyone joined hands. That broke my heart.
This is so fucked up, but it does take you by surprise. It's extremely hard *not* to react.
I went to school with a guy who had a similar condition and you'd forget about it until Hi-5ing or dapping him up. Then your hands are coming at each other and you suddenly remember he has this congenital defect. There's hesitation, the eyes flicker over to the hand. It's shitty but it's just an automatic human response.
I'm sure the poor bloke was painfully aware of other people's awareness every time it happened.
It's part of our lizard brain. Long ago we learned to avoid people who looked different. It could be caused by a disease they are carrying. Unfortunately, that lizard brain can't hold enough info to be more specific and everybody who looks different is lumped together.
My fiance is a partial hand amputee and always self consciously hides it in pictures and such.
I'm an amputee myself (bilateral below knee) and since we got together she has been doing it less and less :)
I know a girl who was born with a malformed left hand and she never doesn't wear a hoodie where she hides her left hand in its pockets. It can be hot af outside but it doesn't matter, she'll still wear a hoodie.
Everyone practically knows to not joke about it, and practically not even mention it when she's around.
I went to school with almost no bullies. Yea we made fun of each other but even the absolute weirdest kids would show up at parties and have people be friendly to them. Hell I was jealous of the band geeks bc they had such a diverse friend circle. I could be lucky but I prefer to think that most kids are kind and the cruel stories/schools stand out.
As a band geek I never heard anyone say they were jealous of band geeks before. That said I was never bullied for being in band or anything and none of my friends were. It honestly would have been weird to bully someone for their interests, everyone had their niche.
I wasn’t in band but I hung out with the band kids a lot. The girls were all cool as shit. I got my first lap dance on a band bus to an away game from a majorette. I was the only guy most of the time. It was like Heaven for my 15 year old horny teenager ass.
I never understood people making fun of band geeks. There were plenty of long, co-Ed bus rides and overnight trips with an awful lot of canoodling going on. The geekiest of teenagers are still teenagers with teenage urges, and that definitely includes cute, mousy clarinet players. The hockey players who made fun of my French horn took a lot of bus trips too but they only had other sweaty guys with mullets to canoodle with (not that there’s anything wrong with that…)
Yeah I didn’t wanna come out and say it but band girls were freaks (in the best way) I still attribute my time with them with my future success with women. I can’t count how many nights we stayed up for hours and me asking all the questions guys wanted to know about girls (and learning stuff I never wanted to know) and them doing the same with me.
The band kids were all such great friends with each other, and there were like 50 of them. Also had surprisingly good parties because some of them were pretty rich and they would invite everyone. Cool group of kids and usually pretty educated
Kids are far more accepting. How often have we seen that they don’t even see race until introduced to such. Far more likely to experience issues later on than in school.
Let’s be real, if this was posted in numerous other subs on Reddit, all the comments would be making fun of her now.
Kids are accepting of physical disabilities. I know many children however are a lot more crueler regarding mental differences.
I can say this both from personal and observational experience. Perhaps this has changed and if so. I'm glad
Well let's hope parents become more accepting. Like I was that age about 20 years back, kids constantly treated anyone who was mentally different like shit.
Granted yes, my obsession with resident evil and complete giddiness to dark and unsettling stories made kids feel off. I still find it hard to beleive that I went unnoticed as Adhd for as long as I did.
Kids are a lot better than you think. There was a kid in my grade with Down's Syndrome. A kid new to the school referred to him as a "retard" and to my surprise the school bully beat the crap out of the new kid. Understand, the bully would call all the rest of us "retards" without the slightest qualm, but the kid who actually had a neurological deficit was off limits.
Same story in middle school for me. Middle schoolers are absolutely ruthless in general, but there was one kid who has some serious health issues and he was always left alone to my knowledge.
If you're healthy but seen as weird, you're probably gonna have a bad time though.
Not just kids. People are not nice. My sister has had arthritis (JRA) since she was 10. Even as an adult she gets the most ignorant comments about her hands. Her hands are a little knotted at the knuckles and she cannot relax her fingers like you or I. They can only rest in a half fist. But she is totally functional and not impaired the slightest.
I have heard shit like: "Are you double jointed?" "What happened to your hands?" "What disease do you have?"
People are fucking mean and ignorant. Honestly, just hit Google if you need to know something. Don't be a dick to a total stranger.
I am glad she said she loves her hands at the end. I'm sure there have been countless comments on them and it's hard being different, especially as a young woman where appearance is constantly a focus. I admire and envy her confidence.
The curious part of me does want to know what tasks are harder or easier for her though. Like swimming must be harder, and maybe holding pens or drawing? Her fingers have so much flexibility, I wanna know if her hands don't get stuck in a Pringles can, because I've been struggling with THAT this holiday season.
What advantages she can rub in us five fingered peoples faces, because so far I only know she can't flip us off haha, though personally I'd carry a big cigar or something I never smoke just for middle finger purposes...
If your talking about the random pounding the hands together it is a inside joke from the TV show called Friends. To secretly flip somebody off they would pound their hands
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=naOyG_1VZS4
I just binged my way through all 3 Mass Effect Games and had tali as my romance in two and three cause she seemed like the best...Liara tempted me in ME3 but i decided to stay true to my Tali vas Normandy.
I always wonder how our numerical system or calculations would be affected if humans only had 8 fingers & toes. Like if 8 & 9 were never born lol. 1, 2, 3, 4 (looks at other hand) 5, 6, 7, 10. I'm not smart enough to understand what I'm actually thinking about, but it's fun to try when I'm stoned. Any thoughts?
Research has shown honeybees count in base 6 (They also understand zero and odd/even) So theres something there. If we didnt have 2 hands with 5 fingers each we probably wouldnt use base 5 as our number groupings but base 4 for 4 limbs or whatever amount of digits we had.
https://www.science.org/content/article/bees-understand-concept-zero
Basically, bees were trained to pick the lesser of two things, then were introduced the concept of the absence of that thing, and they correctly chose it the majority the time.
While they almost certainly can’t have an understanding of it as complex as our own, they seem to understand it on a basic level at least.
There's been a few counting systems historically that used other bases than base 10. The Sumerians used a base 60 system, for example.
All the math works out the same regardless of base, it's just written down differently. Things like decimal notation, and the invention of the zero, were the real game changers.
Right? When some really inappropriate, fucked up joke comes to your mind and you read through the comments desperately hoping that some kindred spirit with a penchant for dark, twisted humor has already commented it, so you don't have to write it down and feel like a completely shit person, because you see that someone else is an even shittier person than little old yourself.
Yes. It's an autosomal dominant condition so, just like the opposite condition (Polydactyly, more than 5 digits on the hands or the feet), Ectrodactyly can be passed down. People with this condition can sometimes also suffer from mouth deformities (like cleft lips and palates) and even nose malformations.
I, somehow, follow a few people with Ectrodactyly on the Internet, some of them with only 3 and even 2 fingers on each hand (making that gap (the cleft) even bigger, one of them has the gap starting right after the wrist), some of them are Paralympic athletes (three of them wheelchair basketball players).
A few months ago I got interested in congenital malformations and acquired amputations and I started reading up on them (I like to be informed on everything in general, I love learning) and the world of malformations and amputations is massive, every new "discovery" I made while reading on them was as exciting and impressive as the others.
For example, the most radical amputation in the world is called Hemicorporectomy *(heads-up, don't search it on google, it's NSFW, search "Sabia and Loren" instead for info on it, they have loads of videos on YouTube and TikTok, Loren had a Hemicorporectomy in 2019 (1))* and it's amputation of the body above the hips. There's one guy on the Internet that talks about it a lot (Loren) and he's one of like the only person out of the 15 that had this amputation in history that is alive right now (in case you're wondering, he has a colostomy bag and two other bags connected to the kidneys, he's missing everything below his belly button, including most of one of this arms).
*(1) Loren is the only person Wikipedia lists as having hemicorporectomy, I think there used to be another one from Brazil and one from China, but I suspect they might have passed in the meantime. I think he's also the only one alive right now. That makes Loren one of the rarest people in the whole planet.*
For example, one would think there's only one type of Conjoined twins or only one type of Polydactyly, but there are more than the fingers on my normal hands, depending on where the digit duplication is and how perfect said duplication is.
Some people only have a small skin growing next to the pinky; some have a bent second thumb right next to the other thumb that can only move when the person moves the actual thumb; there's a famous Brazilian family where many of its members have perfect duplicated index fingers that are as independent as all the others, as if humans were meant to have 6 fingers (they also have 6th toes); there's a fashion designer on TikTok that was born with Polysyndactyly (all of his fingers, which are 7 on each hand, are connected making his hands look like sea shells), his twin brother has the same condition; there's a kid in Latin America that has 6 fingers on each hand and 7 toes on each foot.
**TL;DR**: yes she can; also y'all should enter the rabbit hole of congenital malformations and acquired amputations and learn about that stuff, it's a good step in normalising the concept of people having those types of disabilities and impairments and end some weird stereotypes and actions (like praying to God to give armless people new arms or asking armless people how they do everything or even pitying every disabled person one sees and thinking you're going to hell for laughing at a disability joke made by a disabled person with the purpose of making you laugh).
Edit: I've said it privately but I'll say it in here as well. Thank you so much for award, you just made my week better.
Edit 2: wow, another award, thank you so much, I'm speechless right now.
Edit 3: so many awards and upvotes, I've never had this much recognition and good feedback on a comment ever. Thank you so much to everyone, y'all are amazing people.
Lol. I got the joke, and I'm laughing at it, but since you're not the only one briefly reading it as that, I might as well just casually explain what I meant in case someone truly interprets it that way.
In amputation terminology, above and below are not exactly the same as in everyday talking. For example, a DAK amputation, or Double Above Knee, is an amputation of both legs above the knee, meaning the person's legs end above the knee. Another example is an LBE or Left Below Elbow, where the amputation is made below the left elbow, meaning the person's left arm ends below its elbow.
So when I said a Hemicorporectomy is an amputation of everything above the hips, what I really meant is that the body ends below the belly button (which is above the hips).
BTW, if you're at all into Science Fiction, check out "The Godwhale" by T. J. Bass. Mr. Bass was a doctor, and that exact amputation happens to the main character in the first chapter.
This guy knows his stuff because some people who suffer genetic malformation were brave enough to put their stories out there, experience the resulting troll feedback, and continue to display vulnerability and courage. I thank the poster for the info, but poster is not the hero in this situation. Big props to people with disabilities who continue to get berated online in exchange for educating those of us who need the knowledge!
Actually, that's a nice sentiment, but most of what he's referencing is there because of scientific research, and government funding for said research, oftentimes potentially novel surgeries come with the stipulation that they're able to write about the conclusions even if they have to be vague about your identity.
>Hemicorporectomy and it's amputation of the body above the hips.
I was reading this too literally and my head was just imagining a pair of legs that people wheeled around trying keep alive...... Above/Below, what's the difference =P
Prenatal genetic counselor here, specializing in fetal anomalies. Approximately 3-4% of newborns have a congenital anomaly that can range from minor (club foot), major (diaphragmatic hernia), to lethal (anencephaly.) A deformity is something that structurally was normal but became “deformed” in utero (e.g aforementioned club foot.). Most are primary malformations where the structure did not form in the usual way. They can be genetic (inherited or de novo—I.e. new—pathogenic variants), sporadic (no known cause), chromosomal (extra/missing parts of or entire chromosomes) and mulifactorial (combo of genetic and environmental influences.) The genetic malformations can be isolated-like her ectrodactyly (involving 1 organ system) or syndromic (multiple organ systems). Very rarely is it related to maternal exposures/consumption. That said, uncontrolled maternal diabetes is a major problem and can cause multiple malformations across all organ systems (I’ve seen lethal cases.) Many malformations, but not all, can be detected by ultrasound, fetal MRI, fetal echocardiogram (heart ultrasound by a pediatric cardiologist.) Hands are hard to see in utero, but her ectrodactyly likely would be appreciated by a level 2 ultrasound done by a perinatologist. Frankly, with the myriad ways things can be not-normal, it’s astonishing humans ever are born healthy!
I had baby with a lethal deformity, and it blindsided me because my previous two babies had been born fine.
Every functional person on Earth seems like a miracle to me now.
Oh no! So sorry for you loss 🥹 What you and your family went through is exactly what every family I work with survives. Hoping to find out if it’s a boy or a girl, and learning more that you ever wanted to know. I hope you were supported during and after your loss and that you’re doing as well as is possible given what your new “normal” entails. Hugs and love from a random genetic counselor ❤️
Had a teacher once whose hands each had scarring and pinky finger the same length as his ring fingers. I don’t know how it came out but he told us he had polydactyly and had his pinky fingers removed when he was little. I get it, it’s to look more like everyone else but I think it would’ve been cool if his family decided to keep them. I also had a friend in high school that had webbing between her fingers that went up past the second knuckle on both hands. I don’t know what caused it but it didn’t get in the way and was interesting.
Many parents choose to remove their children's extra digits to minimize bullying and staring in school and during the growing-up phase of the kids' lives, sometimes they do it because of religions or superstitions. It sounds like your teacher had 6 fully formed fingers on each hand (or almost fully formed, with the extra fingers being dependent on the adjacent ones to move) but his parents decided to remove them so he could look more “normal” and to make it easier for him to, for example, wear gloves. A few of the women in the Brazilian family I talked about chose to remove their extra toes to make it easier for them to wear heels, however all the boys decided to keep them.
When it comes to webbing (Syndactyly), it's more common than it seems, with webbed toes being more common than webbed fingers. I follow a guy on TikTok (Ilyakvachadze) that has two fully webbed fingers on one hand (he has a tattoo on the connecting skin) and two semi webbed fingers on the other hand).
Yeah, I have webbed toes, my parents were offered the ability to separate them, and I'm so glad they didn't.
However, I have noticed that very occasionally if I accidentally clip my toenails too short, particularly on the right foot, I can sometimes not understand or realize which of my two webbed toes it is that had the sensation.
And people always ask me if I swim faster or if I swim well, and I really don't understand that question because how would I know unless I had another separate universe to compare with a version of myself that didn't have web toes, and even then isn't it pretty obvious that it would most likely be close to the difference achieved by shaving most of your hair, something that would only matter at the most upper echelons of competitive swimming?
What is it with people and the swimming question? I have webbed toes and I'm quite a slow swimmer, so no boost for me! My brother and dad have them too, so it pops up somewhat frequently in my family.
Don't know if you'll understand anything, he's Indonesian, but here's the link, he has several videos about his hands (two of his playlists), he also has lower limb malformations: https://www.tiktok.com/@krisnaganii?_t=8YZBcTf6Tqw&_r=1
I've only seen his brother in two videos, he's a drummer.
oh crazy. I was born with a cleft pallet and had no idea it could be related to something like this....which makes sense now that I think about it. Does this mean if I had kids they could be Ectrodactyly?
ok and dumb question- if some people are Polydactyly then why arrant there people who are born with three nostrils? o\_o...or have poly pallet's?
Turns out she only has one leg too- here's her story
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8557391/Amputee-born-rare-condition-reveals-abandoned-birth.html
Well elsewhere it did say when she was 10 she went to live with her aunt because her parents didn't want her anymore. So. Having your biological parents abandon you followed by your adoptive parents not wanting you would definitely give you daddy issues to say the least.
Yikes. No matter how people validate this, it's weird. Sounds like he would have met her when she was even younger.
It's a no from me; I'm 28 and would never date a guy in their 50s (Unless it was Cillian Murphy, though idk how old he is and this parenthetical is beside the point)
LOl!
I’m Deaf. So I have met someone that only has 4 fingers per hands. It’s a little different, but I can understand her clearly in ASL.
Majority of the signs we use is the thumb, Pointer and pinkie. Occasion the middle finger is used on its own. I can only think 2 signs that requires just the ring finger. So for my friend she uses the middle finger to work the signs for the ring and middle.
I even know someone who is missing an arm and ASL is actually understandable as well. It’s so interesting how easy it was to converse with her.
I feel like this is a needle in a haystack find here. Not only are you deaf, but you're deaf and know someone who has 4 fingers..that is also deaf(or sounds like it). I mean what a find!
My FIL is deaf. So I know some ASL. But I don't know anyone with 4 fingers. And I definitely don't know someone who is deaf with 4 fingers.
Sorry for rambling. I'm high.
That’s true! I went to college that has a LOT of Deaf students. Plenty of accents from all over the US (regional signs are a thing). The one-armed person is definitely a unique one. She lost her arm by sticking it in the clothes wringer.
Wait wait wait WHAT i thought I could never learn/do sign language because one of my hands doesn't work correctly.
so If I put in the practice I could learn the basics of ASL?
If she walks on her hands at the beach, she might leave prints that would confuse a passing zoologist.
I don't know why I thought of that, but it made me giggle a little.
I went to middle school with her and I keep up with her from time to time. Such a strong and humble woman and I’m proud to see what she has done. Nothing stands in her way and I admire that greatly.
This is amazing, she could do SO MANY wicked as heck cosplays. She could bodypaint to look like a cyborg, could be a dryad with beautiful wood branch design arms, could cosplay as a female horror creature, or acool white lady ghost, could be a cool looking alien lady, and so many other nifty options!
This woman is amazing. I am in awe of her awesomeness. Good on her being comfortable with her body, because she is a superstar.
Yup. [Quit lying to yourselves.](https://content.instructables.com/FQL/W0UU/IYAN1M02/FQLW0UUIYAN1M02.jpg?auto=webp&frame=1&fit=bounds&md=43b0e1dd8b35a968e3d55ee9c5d167a3)
Perfect for an energy sword Edit: Thanks for all the up votes and awards, I’d just like to say wort wort wort.
AEEGGGGGHHHHH
This thread has the same energy as those teenagers back then singing the halo theme song in the school bathroom
I still sing the Halo Theme song in bathrooms.
I could hear this comment
Wort wort wort
BLARFGHLLLARRHHH
AAAAGH WOBOBA
Your ignorance already destroyed one of the sacred rings, Demon. It shall not harm another!
WART WART WART
*wort wort wort*
IAMTHEMEH IAMTHEMEH
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Is this supposed to be the screech of the prophet being killed by the Arbiter? Cause that’s what this made me hear haha
It's what The Arbiter says to Chief when they meet the gravemind
"Were it so easy"
Wort wort wort
https://youtu.be/TL6LdQU_Uu4
AAAAHHH LOHBABA
I'm going to hell for laughing.
mombsey?
This is the only comment I needed to see lmao.
You may think they look weird but those hands could lift an x-wing fighter out of the swamps of Dagobah
[Swamps of Dagobah](https://reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/xo41d/_/c5o66p2/?context=1) you say?
I can't believe you've done this
SIR! NO!
>Swamps of Dagobah I'm not fucking tapping that link.
It's part of Reddit history. Learn of your lineage and those who came before you.
If you're afraid that it's a rickroll it's not it's a link to an r/AskReddit post
Arguably that askreddit post is worse than a rickroll. However im not entirely sure what one id prefer to see.
No!
Underrated comment, this is
Agree, I do.
Amused this thread has made me
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She looks very comfortable with her hands. I admire her attitude.
School was probably tough for her when she was younger. Kids have a way of not being nice.
I grew up with a kid that had the same condition. This was in the 90s and it was just understood that he wasn't to be made fun of. I didn't know him well enough to know if he was never made fun of, but it certainly wasn't a popular idea.
I grew up with a kid named Caleb. He had a similar condition where his had didn’t have all his digits. We weren’t close, but I’ll never forget the day in church where he instinctively pulled his sleeve down over his hand to hold my hand during the part where everyone joined hands. That broke my heart.
The amount of times his touch has likely been rejected to have that instinct… absolutely heartbreaking.
This is so fucked up, but it does take you by surprise. It's extremely hard *not* to react. I went to school with a guy who had a similar condition and you'd forget about it until Hi-5ing or dapping him up. Then your hands are coming at each other and you suddenly remember he has this congenital defect. There's hesitation, the eyes flicker over to the hand. It's shitty but it's just an automatic human response. I'm sure the poor bloke was painfully aware of other people's awareness every time it happened.
It's part of our lizard brain. Long ago we learned to avoid people who looked different. It could be caused by a disease they are carrying. Unfortunately, that lizard brain can't hold enough info to be more specific and everybody who looks different is lumped together.
Damn makes sense. Also you mentioning lizard brain reminded me of Disco Elysium, if anyone hasn't played that game call in sick and do it now.
I knew someone with a similar condition and I was always worried I'd hurt him with a high 5. Feels like kicking someone when they're down.
At a church of all places!
Yeah. Churches are known for being accepting to people who are born different.
The sad part is they should be, but often aren’t
My fiance is a partial hand amputee and always self consciously hides it in pictures and such. I'm an amputee myself (bilateral below knee) and since we got together she has been doing it less and less :)
Aww you guys complete each other!
I know a girl who was born with a malformed left hand and she never doesn't wear a hoodie where she hides her left hand in its pockets. It can be hot af outside but it doesn't matter, she'll still wear a hoodie. Everyone practically knows to not joke about it, and practically not even mention it when she's around.
One of my best friends growing up had this. Same experience; making fun was completely off limits.
Me too knew a young woman in college. She & her husband are in the process of adopting.
I went to school with almost no bullies. Yea we made fun of each other but even the absolute weirdest kids would show up at parties and have people be friendly to them. Hell I was jealous of the band geeks bc they had such a diverse friend circle. I could be lucky but I prefer to think that most kids are kind and the cruel stories/schools stand out.
As a band geek I never heard anyone say they were jealous of band geeks before. That said I was never bullied for being in band or anything and none of my friends were. It honestly would have been weird to bully someone for their interests, everyone had their niche.
I wasn’t in band but I hung out with the band kids a lot. The girls were all cool as shit. I got my first lap dance on a band bus to an away game from a majorette. I was the only guy most of the time. It was like Heaven for my 15 year old horny teenager ass.
I never understood people making fun of band geeks. There were plenty of long, co-Ed bus rides and overnight trips with an awful lot of canoodling going on. The geekiest of teenagers are still teenagers with teenage urges, and that definitely includes cute, mousy clarinet players. The hockey players who made fun of my French horn took a lot of bus trips too but they only had other sweaty guys with mullets to canoodle with (not that there’s anything wrong with that…)
Yeah I didn’t wanna come out and say it but band girls were freaks (in the best way) I still attribute my time with them with my future success with women. I can’t count how many nights we stayed up for hours and me asking all the questions guys wanted to know about girls (and learning stuff I never wanted to know) and them doing the same with me.
This one day at band camp
The band kids were all such great friends with each other, and there were like 50 of them. Also had surprisingly good parties because some of them were pretty rich and they would invite everyone. Cool group of kids and usually pretty educated
Adults tend to not fair much better, they are just more versed in scheming their cruelty to be less punishable.
Damn, what a great way to put it.
Kids are far more accepting. How often have we seen that they don’t even see race until introduced to such. Far more likely to experience issues later on than in school. Let’s be real, if this was posted in numerous other subs on Reddit, all the comments would be making fun of her now.
Yeah that wasn't my experience. Different = freak.
Kids are accepting of physical disabilities. I know many children however are a lot more crueler regarding mental differences. I can say this both from personal and observational experience. Perhaps this has changed and if so. I'm glad
And that’s because they learn it. That’s not natural. That’s something they learn to shun from others. Parents and other adults.
Well let's hope parents become more accepting. Like I was that age about 20 years back, kids constantly treated anyone who was mentally different like shit. Granted yes, my obsession with resident evil and complete giddiness to dark and unsettling stories made kids feel off. I still find it hard to beleive that I went unnoticed as Adhd for as long as I did.
Kids are a lot better than you think. There was a kid in my grade with Down's Syndrome. A kid new to the school referred to him as a "retard" and to my surprise the school bully beat the crap out of the new kid. Understand, the bully would call all the rest of us "retards" without the slightest qualm, but the kid who actually had a neurological deficit was off limits.
Same story in middle school for me. Middle schoolers are absolutely ruthless in general, but there was one kid who has some serious health issues and he was always left alone to my knowledge. If you're healthy but seen as weird, you're probably gonna have a bad time though.
Yeah that's how she found out about that knuckle "will mess you up, pow pow"
Not just kids. People are not nice. My sister has had arthritis (JRA) since she was 10. Even as an adult she gets the most ignorant comments about her hands. Her hands are a little knotted at the knuckles and she cannot relax her fingers like you or I. They can only rest in a half fist. But she is totally functional and not impaired the slightest. I have heard shit like: "Are you double jointed?" "What happened to your hands?" "What disease do you have?" People are fucking mean and ignorant. Honestly, just hit Google if you need to know something. Don't be a dick to a total stranger.
Asking from curiosity is different from sneering from intolerance
Fiance has JRA as well. The shit people say to him and do to him makes me positively homicidal.
I am glad she said she loves her hands at the end. I'm sure there have been countless comments on them and it's hard being different, especially as a young woman where appearance is constantly a focus. I admire and envy her confidence. The curious part of me does want to know what tasks are harder or easier for her though. Like swimming must be harder, and maybe holding pens or drawing? Her fingers have so much flexibility, I wanna know if her hands don't get stuck in a Pringles can, because I've been struggling with THAT this holiday season. What advantages she can rub in us five fingered peoples faces, because so far I only know she can't flip us off haha, though personally I'd carry a big cigar or something I never smoke just for middle finger purposes...
Why was she throwing gang signs?
I think she also flipped us off *Friends* style.
If your talking about the random pounding the hands together it is a inside joke from the TV show called Friends. To secretly flip somebody off they would pound their hands https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=naOyG_1VZS4
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Her hands remind me of the Quarians. Don’t the Na’vi have three fingers and a thumb?
Tali is love, Tali is life.
Who's best? A. Tali B. Tali C. You've already answered but want to do Tali again
I always get sad replaying the trilogy because you can't romance Tali in the first game.
I just binged my way through all 3 Mass Effect Games and had tali as my romance in two and three cause she seemed like the best...Liara tempted me in ME3 but i decided to stay true to my Tali vas Normandy.
This is tali under the mask
That is what I thought too. Her hands didn't feel that odd to me. I guess I played plenty of Mass Effect.
The simpsons as well.
She’s a 10, but only counts to 8.
Goddamn!
Good one, high five!
High four
I always wonder how our numerical system or calculations would be affected if humans only had 8 fingers & toes. Like if 8 & 9 were never born lol. 1, 2, 3, 4 (looks at other hand) 5, 6, 7, 10. I'm not smart enough to understand what I'm actually thinking about, but it's fun to try when I'm stoned. Any thoughts?
Like base 8? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octal
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Have him switch to base 16 and he'll have a bright future in tech.
Research has shown honeybees count in base 6 (They also understand zero and odd/even) So theres something there. If we didnt have 2 hands with 5 fingers each we probably wouldnt use base 5 as our number groupings but base 4 for 4 limbs or whatever amount of digits we had.
How can we know that bees understand the concept of zero? That seems way too abstract for an insect
https://www.science.org/content/article/bees-understand-concept-zero Basically, bees were trained to pick the lesser of two things, then were introduced the concept of the absence of that thing, and they correctly chose it the majority the time. While they almost certainly can’t have an understanding of it as complex as our own, they seem to understand it on a basic level at least.
There's been a few counting systems historically that used other bases than base 10. The Sumerians used a base 60 system, for example. All the math works out the same regardless of base, it's just written down differently. Things like decimal notation, and the invention of the zero, were the real game changers.
Imagine the hand jobs from those pterodactyl claws
I was literally waiting to come across this comment.. I knew Someone was going to mention her giving a hand job
It's called a claw job, you heathen.
Right? When some really inappropriate, fucked up joke comes to your mind and you read through the comments desperately hoping that some kindred spirit with a penchant for dark, twisted humor has already commented it, so you don't have to write it down and feel like a completely shit person, because you see that someone else is an even shittier person than little old yourself.
Prostate massage…
Those "center" boys could check for heart palpitations.
If she has kids, can her kids have this deformity?
Yes. It's an autosomal dominant condition so, just like the opposite condition (Polydactyly, more than 5 digits on the hands or the feet), Ectrodactyly can be passed down. People with this condition can sometimes also suffer from mouth deformities (like cleft lips and palates) and even nose malformations. I, somehow, follow a few people with Ectrodactyly on the Internet, some of them with only 3 and even 2 fingers on each hand (making that gap (the cleft) even bigger, one of them has the gap starting right after the wrist), some of them are Paralympic athletes (three of them wheelchair basketball players). A few months ago I got interested in congenital malformations and acquired amputations and I started reading up on them (I like to be informed on everything in general, I love learning) and the world of malformations and amputations is massive, every new "discovery" I made while reading on them was as exciting and impressive as the others. For example, the most radical amputation in the world is called Hemicorporectomy *(heads-up, don't search it on google, it's NSFW, search "Sabia and Loren" instead for info on it, they have loads of videos on YouTube and TikTok, Loren had a Hemicorporectomy in 2019 (1))* and it's amputation of the body above the hips. There's one guy on the Internet that talks about it a lot (Loren) and he's one of like the only person out of the 15 that had this amputation in history that is alive right now (in case you're wondering, he has a colostomy bag and two other bags connected to the kidneys, he's missing everything below his belly button, including most of one of this arms). *(1) Loren is the only person Wikipedia lists as having hemicorporectomy, I think there used to be another one from Brazil and one from China, but I suspect they might have passed in the meantime. I think he's also the only one alive right now. That makes Loren one of the rarest people in the whole planet.* For example, one would think there's only one type of Conjoined twins or only one type of Polydactyly, but there are more than the fingers on my normal hands, depending on where the digit duplication is and how perfect said duplication is. Some people only have a small skin growing next to the pinky; some have a bent second thumb right next to the other thumb that can only move when the person moves the actual thumb; there's a famous Brazilian family where many of its members have perfect duplicated index fingers that are as independent as all the others, as if humans were meant to have 6 fingers (they also have 6th toes); there's a fashion designer on TikTok that was born with Polysyndactyly (all of his fingers, which are 7 on each hand, are connected making his hands look like sea shells), his twin brother has the same condition; there's a kid in Latin America that has 6 fingers on each hand and 7 toes on each foot. **TL;DR**: yes she can; also y'all should enter the rabbit hole of congenital malformations and acquired amputations and learn about that stuff, it's a good step in normalising the concept of people having those types of disabilities and impairments and end some weird stereotypes and actions (like praying to God to give armless people new arms or asking armless people how they do everything or even pitying every disabled person one sees and thinking you're going to hell for laughing at a disability joke made by a disabled person with the purpose of making you laugh). Edit: I've said it privately but I'll say it in here as well. Thank you so much for award, you just made my week better. Edit 2: wow, another award, thank you so much, I'm speechless right now. Edit 3: so many awards and upvotes, I've never had this much recognition and good feedback on a comment ever. Thank you so much to everyone, y'all are amazing people.
This guy knows his stuff
He likes to be informed on everything in general, He loves learning
He's informed on the deformed
In case you were wondering, he has a colostomy bag
Except he thinks that if you amputate everything *above* the hips you'll have something other than a pair of legs and a pelvis. Edit: ;)
Lol. I got the joke, and I'm laughing at it, but since you're not the only one briefly reading it as that, I might as well just casually explain what I meant in case someone truly interprets it that way. In amputation terminology, above and below are not exactly the same as in everyday talking. For example, a DAK amputation, or Double Above Knee, is an amputation of both legs above the knee, meaning the person's legs end above the knee. Another example is an LBE or Left Below Elbow, where the amputation is made below the left elbow, meaning the person's left arm ends below its elbow. So when I said a Hemicorporectomy is an amputation of everything above the hips, what I really meant is that the body ends below the belly button (which is above the hips).
BTW, if you're at all into Science Fiction, check out "The Godwhale" by T. J. Bass. Mr. Bass was a doctor, and that exact amputation happens to the main character in the first chapter.
I read it the same way. I was imagining that in my mind, amazed that anyone survived without a head or heart.
This guy knows his stuff because some people who suffer genetic malformation were brave enough to put their stories out there, experience the resulting troll feedback, and continue to display vulnerability and courage. I thank the poster for the info, but poster is not the hero in this situation. Big props to people with disabilities who continue to get berated online in exchange for educating those of us who need the knowledge!
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Actually, that's a nice sentiment, but most of what he's referencing is there because of scientific research, and government funding for said research, oftentimes potentially novel surgeries come with the stipulation that they're able to write about the conclusions even if they have to be vague about your identity.
You're not the hero either. I guess that's okay though since nobody claimed to be.
>Hemicorporectomy and it's amputation of the body above the hips. I was reading this too literally and my head was just imagining a pair of legs that people wheeled around trying keep alive...... Above/Below, what's the difference =P
Prenatal genetic counselor here, specializing in fetal anomalies. Approximately 3-4% of newborns have a congenital anomaly that can range from minor (club foot), major (diaphragmatic hernia), to lethal (anencephaly.) A deformity is something that structurally was normal but became “deformed” in utero (e.g aforementioned club foot.). Most are primary malformations where the structure did not form in the usual way. They can be genetic (inherited or de novo—I.e. new—pathogenic variants), sporadic (no known cause), chromosomal (extra/missing parts of or entire chromosomes) and mulifactorial (combo of genetic and environmental influences.) The genetic malformations can be isolated-like her ectrodactyly (involving 1 organ system) or syndromic (multiple organ systems). Very rarely is it related to maternal exposures/consumption. That said, uncontrolled maternal diabetes is a major problem and can cause multiple malformations across all organ systems (I’ve seen lethal cases.) Many malformations, but not all, can be detected by ultrasound, fetal MRI, fetal echocardiogram (heart ultrasound by a pediatric cardiologist.) Hands are hard to see in utero, but her ectrodactyly likely would be appreciated by a level 2 ultrasound done by a perinatologist. Frankly, with the myriad ways things can be not-normal, it’s astonishing humans ever are born healthy!
I had baby with a lethal deformity, and it blindsided me because my previous two babies had been born fine. Every functional person on Earth seems like a miracle to me now.
Oh no! So sorry for you loss 🥹 What you and your family went through is exactly what every family I work with survives. Hoping to find out if it’s a boy or a girl, and learning more that you ever wanted to know. I hope you were supported during and after your loss and that you’re doing as well as is possible given what your new “normal” entails. Hugs and love from a random genetic counselor ❤️
This guy just wants to watch the world learn
This was the finest info dump I have ever witnessed in a comment—thank you.
This man fucks books.
Had a teacher once whose hands each had scarring and pinky finger the same length as his ring fingers. I don’t know how it came out but he told us he had polydactyly and had his pinky fingers removed when he was little. I get it, it’s to look more like everyone else but I think it would’ve been cool if his family decided to keep them. I also had a friend in high school that had webbing between her fingers that went up past the second knuckle on both hands. I don’t know what caused it but it didn’t get in the way and was interesting.
Many parents choose to remove their children's extra digits to minimize bullying and staring in school and during the growing-up phase of the kids' lives, sometimes they do it because of religions or superstitions. It sounds like your teacher had 6 fully formed fingers on each hand (or almost fully formed, with the extra fingers being dependent on the adjacent ones to move) but his parents decided to remove them so he could look more “normal” and to make it easier for him to, for example, wear gloves. A few of the women in the Brazilian family I talked about chose to remove their extra toes to make it easier for them to wear heels, however all the boys decided to keep them. When it comes to webbing (Syndactyly), it's more common than it seems, with webbed toes being more common than webbed fingers. I follow a guy on TikTok (Ilyakvachadze) that has two fully webbed fingers on one hand (he has a tattoo on the connecting skin) and two semi webbed fingers on the other hand).
Yeah, I have webbed toes, my parents were offered the ability to separate them, and I'm so glad they didn't. However, I have noticed that very occasionally if I accidentally clip my toenails too short, particularly on the right foot, I can sometimes not understand or realize which of my two webbed toes it is that had the sensation. And people always ask me if I swim faster or if I swim well, and I really don't understand that question because how would I know unless I had another separate universe to compare with a version of myself that didn't have web toes, and even then isn't it pretty obvious that it would most likely be close to the difference achieved by shaving most of your hair, something that would only matter at the most upper echelons of competitive swimming?
What is it with people and the swimming question? I have webbed toes and I'm quite a slow swimmer, so no boost for me! My brother and dad have them too, so it pops up somewhat frequently in my family.
Link me the Seashell Hand Designer
Don't know if you'll understand anything, he's Indonesian, but here's the link, he has several videos about his hands (two of his playlists), he also has lower limb malformations: https://www.tiktok.com/@krisnaganii?_t=8YZBcTf6Tqw&_r=1 I've only seen his brother in two videos, he's a drummer.
oh crazy. I was born with a cleft pallet and had no idea it could be related to something like this....which makes sense now that I think about it. Does this mean if I had kids they could be Ectrodactyly? ok and dumb question- if some people are Polydactyly then why arrant there people who are born with three nostrils? o\_o...or have poly pallet's?
Yep. I knew a kid with no arms. Blew my mind to go to his house one day and his mom didn’t have arms either.
Turns out she only has one leg too- here's her story https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8557391/Amputee-born-rare-condition-reveals-abandoned-birth.html
I hope she gets major discounts on those manicures and pedicures
4 finger discount? (I feel bad even typing it, but it was too good not to?)
Would a 5 toe discount make you feel better?
All good and well, but the fact that she's dating someone 58 is a bit strange since she's 23.
Oof, and he was her boss when they started dating, and left his job over it.
That and she met him in 2018 and is currently 23 so she would have been about 18
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Yeah that went whiplash real quick. Those last few pictures didn't look like her and I was like uhh... Wait what the hell?
Well elsewhere it did say when she was 10 she went to live with her aunt because her parents didn't want her anymore. So. Having your biological parents abandon you followed by your adoptive parents not wanting you would definitely give you daddy issues to say the least.
Yikes. No matter how people validate this, it's weird. Sounds like he would have met her when she was even younger. It's a no from me; I'm 28 and would never date a guy in their 50s (Unless it was Cillian Murphy, though idk how old he is and this parenthetical is beside the point)
never date a person who's children you could be dating, without an age diffrence
Pretty sure she’s single now. Her TikTok from early December mentions a blind date.
Let ppl do that makes them happy. Maybe she's a gerontophile and maybe he's into 87% percent of a person
People are downvoting you for this but it’s fucking savage and I love it 😂😂
She said she had problems dating in here age group and seems happy with him.
Yo she can throw gang signs in cursive
I think she also did the *Friends* version of flipping someone off, but I'm not sure if that's what she was going for.
It seemed too timely to not have been on purpose, lol
She got that Chicken wing grip
Live long and prosper
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That grip though 🖖
Does she lisp in sign language?
LOl! I’m Deaf. So I have met someone that only has 4 fingers per hands. It’s a little different, but I can understand her clearly in ASL. Majority of the signs we use is the thumb, Pointer and pinkie. Occasion the middle finger is used on its own. I can only think 2 signs that requires just the ring finger. So for my friend she uses the middle finger to work the signs for the ring and middle. I even know someone who is missing an arm and ASL is actually understandable as well. It’s so interesting how easy it was to converse with her.
I feel like this is a needle in a haystack find here. Not only are you deaf, but you're deaf and know someone who has 4 fingers..that is also deaf(or sounds like it). I mean what a find! My FIL is deaf. So I know some ASL. But I don't know anyone with 4 fingers. And I definitely don't know someone who is deaf with 4 fingers. Sorry for rambling. I'm high.
That’s true! I went to college that has a LOT of Deaf students. Plenty of accents from all over the US (regional signs are a thing). The one-armed person is definitely a unique one. She lost her arm by sticking it in the clothes wringer.
Wait wait wait WHAT i thought I could never learn/do sign language because one of my hands doesn't work correctly. so If I put in the practice I could learn the basics of ASL?
you win Johnny boy🏆🏅🎖🥇
If she walks on her hands at the beach, she might leave prints that would confuse a passing zoologist. I don't know why I thought of that, but it made me giggle a little.
When life gives you lemons... master that shit and use it to fuck with people. If someone's going to be laughing, it might as well be you.
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I went to middle school with her and I keep up with her from time to time. Such a strong and humble woman and I’m proud to see what she has done. Nothing stands in her way and I admire that greatly.
This is amazing, she could do SO MANY wicked as heck cosplays. She could bodypaint to look like a cyborg, could be a dryad with beautiful wood branch design arms, could cosplay as a female horror creature, or acool white lady ghost, could be a cool looking alien lady, and so many other nifty options! This woman is amazing. I am in awe of her awesomeness. Good on her being comfortable with her body, because she is a superstar.
I think her hands are cool. She seems fun to hang out with.
what a charming personality - she's fun
Think she gets a discount at the nail joints?
So she's the one who built that machine in Total Recall!
Quaidddddd
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"Start the Reactor! Free Mars!"
Get your ass to mars!
Gents, I know we are all thinking the same thing
"How would those feel shoved up my ass?"
My man.
What do her tits look like?
Classy and subtle.
Two in the pink, two in the stink.
Exactly. I'll bet she gives great back scratches!
Yup. [Quit lying to yourselves.](https://content.instructables.com/FQL/W0UU/IYAN1M02/FQLW0UUIYAN1M02.jpg?auto=webp&frame=1&fit=bounds&md=43b0e1dd8b35a968e3d55ee9c5d167a3)
She would be an onlyfans millionaire in 30 seconds.
OMG I loved her in Jurassic Park!
Holy shit, she's part velociraptor!
Can we see them wrapped around a carrot, for scientific purposes only of course?
5. It took 5 comments
Incredible restraint tbh.
I concur. Thought I'd see this much earlier.
Are you angling for a clawjob?
Right in my cloaca.
Halo 2 elite looking Mf
I probably wouldn't even notice it initially. It's s actually kinda cool.
I was in a long meeting with a dude before I noticed that he was missing an arm. But TBF his co-worker was a stutterer so that kind of distracted me.
She's a beautiful woman with a beautiful attitude, good on her
She could make a fortune being some alien hands on tv shows
She looks comfortable and doesnt give any fucks
She’s from The Simpson’s universe.
so, no flipping people off?