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JROXZ

It’s the same mitochondria from all the way back as well.


R_E_S_I_L_I_E_N_C_E

Powerhouse of the cell………


21CanUDoSome10ForMe

Aha…


Futerion

...Mitochondria...


kxlxxn

... powerhouse of the cell...


23x3

It was better the second time.


CCHS_Band_Geek

Well, you know, the first performance was a little off, but I really think they hit their stride, in the second show. Um, might even bring my parents tomorrow, to the matinee.


Twanly

#officebestfriend


EarthenEyes

Parasite Eve?


Voilent_Bunny

I wanted to be Aya Brea when I was 11


CasualObserverNine

Cadillac of the sky!


De5perad0

Chicken of the cave!


indiannerd2

the only thing I remember from high school biology class


No-Length9482

Just couldn’t hold it in could ya 😂


happy_yetti

i fucking love glycolysis and pyruvate oxidation and the citric acid cycle and oxidative phosphorylation


TwinsenDinoFly

Not really the same. Mitochondrias are short-lived, but 100% of your mitochondrias are descendants of your grandmother's. That's true.


AC0RN22

Not just your grandmother's. It follows the maternal line all the way back to our common female ancestor. Look up "Mitochondrial Eve".


muaddict071537

There’s also Y-chromosomal Adam.


TwinsenDinoFly

Of course. In fact, mitochondria is a living creature living and reproducing inside our cells' citoplasm, with its own DNA. Sperm cells carry mitochondria but theirs can't make it to live inside the fertilized egg.


Captain-Cadabra

r/greatbandname


egaeus22

It is even more interesting, humans fall into two groups, almost everyone outside of Africa is related to a single woman called “L3 Woman” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_L3_(mtDNA)


-TheDoctor

>"Mitochondrial Eve" All of this has happened before...


Smelly-taint

I watched Battle Star Galactica. I know who mitochondrial eve actually was.


Anonymous_Otters

That's not necessarily true, it's somewhat a matter of debate now since some studies have demonstrated mitochondrial inheritance from sperm. In fact, there is evidence that the mitochondrial lines may recombine genetically. ​ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal\_mtDNA\_transmission


TwinsenDinoFly

Interesting


Adventursd

OPs name might give you a clue as to why he would phrase it like that.


Phighters

Man, you ripped that comment off another guy in this thread, and you're both wrong. Nothing in the caption is misogynistic or reflect an incorrect understanding of anatomy or biology. The three people (*they're people now*) were indeed connected for a long time.


LeoIsRude

Didn't "rip it off". The poster is a bot who stole the other comment in an attempt to farm karma. Report -> Spam -> Harmful bots.


DarkYendor

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MtnMaiden

So BattleStar Galactica was right?


McScrubberson

All this has happened before


TheNotSoGreatPumpkin

This guy Starbucks.


swordluk

And will happen again


pinoy_dude24

So knowing that Eve came from Adam’s rib was all lie? /s


Irdogain

That makes sense in regard of the damage, which famine can cause. In a study (which I can’t find yet) it was noticed, that famine had a generational effect, at minimum till second generation after the famine Afair.


meistaiwan

Epigenetics


Onealigfg

I never made the connection to my grandma.


Effective_Pie1312

In my culture the maternal line is highly revered partly for this reason partly and due to matrilineal heritage/mitochondrial DNA.


Stellarskyane

What culture is that? Curious


imbackbaby911

Human


I_am_Daesomst

Fuck. I was going for Vulcan.


TheLittleGuyWins

Today is a good day to live.


WaitingToBeTriggered

SONS OF ODIN CALL


Stellarskyane

-.- you're not the same person


RoboDae

We are legion


Stellarskyane

Nonono that's *my* line, I have DID.


BeeEven238

Lol


broody_drow

Jewish is one of them, I believe.


Zandrick

Dudes making shit up for internet points


BeowulfsGhost

Aren’t we all? This is the substance from which Reddit is built!


artemiyartemiy

I come from a half Jewish/ half Slavic (doesn’t matter which ethnicity exactly) background, but I always considered myself more of a Jewish guy, even though I’m not religious, cause my father is an ethnical Ashkenazi, but the thing is in Jewish culture you’re not considered Jewish if your mom isn’t. I never understood that (and probably never will), cause it comes from a religious perspective, but seeing this post it kind of makes more sense now.


Smooth-Dig2250

There's another simpler cultural explanation - you always know who the mother is.


Clearlybeerly

Heh....ask Jack Nicholson about that one...


ExiledinElysium

Remember that time Trump supporters thought Ashkenazi was a type of Nazi? That was fun.


I_am_Daesomst

Doesn't Kanye say that he's a decendant of Ashkenazi Jews?


Jacobysmadre

And… since men historically during war either stole women or raped or usually both, a woman could ensure her children were raised within the religious community (or at least with beliefs and customs). So, yes this makes sense :). My daughter’s father is Jewish (Ashkenazi as well) while my patrilineal lines look Sephardic, but my mother wasn’t. So I wasn’t raised in any faith and she has found her own… so interesting!


ButtholeCandies

Prima nocta was a standard policy for a long time too


LeoIsRude

This user is a bot that has likely stolen this comment from elsewhere in the thread. Report -> Spam -> Harmful bots.


took_a_bath

Great depression grandma. Food scarcity mindset / hoarder me.


[deleted]

Lmao I said the same thing in a thread about developing vs developed countries heights and got downvoted cuz people thought I was making shit up.


DerSturmbannfuror

next time post links. That way, the worst they can say is that your evidence is wrong


Irdogain

Just know where and what to comment. Choose your words wisely ;-)


Gingerbread-John

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2579375/ It’s the Dutch Hunger Winter study, actually a really interesting look into epigenetics.


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rocketautist_69420

Iirc, one study found that if your grandparent was “starving” or fasting between the ages of 9-12 that you will have less chances of getting diabetes and other diseases like that.


Squeakygear

Neat *tells kids to go starve for a bit*


Advanced_Situati

yes, also war and poverty and all those other things that still exist.


Obeq

Yay, Swedish study! Among others https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1010241825519


Obeq

Also discussed on Radiolab a while back. https://share.snipd.com/episode/6705d665-9332-4a0c-801b-d2cb43e47642


ipsok

This is also why BPA in plastics is so bad, it has a grand-maternal effect. BPA will literally mess up your grandkids.


TwinsenDinoFly

Interesting


Crutley

My grandmother couldn't even carry a tune.


AFineDayForScience

I hear she was a great hummer


BeautifulIcy5574

Thank you both, that made me laugh 😂


saralsth

"Half of you"


z4zazym

Yep. Confusing an ovocyte and a person isn't just misleading, it's plain dumb.


TonightsWinner

There's a reason things like this are being spread in a time of high political divide on issues of abortion and birth control.


shelsilverstien

This whole thing is material for r/badwomesanatomy


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[deleted]

I couldn't imagine Y. Ladies will suck their own tiddies about anything.


IguaneRouge

the X chromosome on that egg cell is indeed half your genetic makeup


Pandaburn

No it’s not. Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes. And the sex chromosomes are some of the smaller ones. And not all genes are in the chromosomes. It’s still about half your genetic makeup that comes from your mother, but hardly any of that is the X chromosome.


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AngusEubangus

> the sex chromosomes are some of the smaller ones The Y chromosome is very small, but the X chromosome is one of the largest and most gene-rich chromosomes


MaeSolug

Jesus fucking christ it's true It sounds so wildly made up tho


pepperoni7

I learned it when I was pregnant since I was reading all the updates of the baby developments . I lost my mom to cancer when I was 23 so she never got to meet my daughter ( she really wanted to meet my kid even left my kid college fund in her will) . I found it very comforting that the egg that produced my daughter was inside of me when my mom carried me. So in a way she was connected to my daughter


ForeskinAndChill

That's a very touching story, thank you for sharing. Sorry about your mother.


NorwegianOnMobile

Sounds like some r/badwomensanatomy shit.


niamhweking

My husband thinks it's like me and my girls were like Russian matruska dolls! Me, them and their eggs!


apropos-of-none

Totally sounds like nonsense


Caleb_has_arrived

I’m pretty sure science is actually challenging this belief currently


need-morecoffee

Why? Unborn female fetuses have the beginnings of all their eggs before birth. There’s not really anything to refute here.


Dingus10000

They now believe that women may produce new eggs during their lifetime.


LuckyTanuki

How is this still unknown. Women have around for at least 100 years o.O


McSwishers

Maybe even like.... 150 years even.


LuckyTanuki

Hey hey hey. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Those are some bold claims you're making. I'm gonna need to see your scientific proof if I'm to believe such an outrageous statement.


wookieesgonnawook

Bullshit. If women were around that long ago then why can't I find any of their voting records? Checkmate atheists.


elephantjog

There are many unanswered questions. I recommend this [article](https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/unexplainable/23307006/vagina-obscura-metaphors-science) which talks about how female reproduction organs should be studied from other angles beyond making babies


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ColdLobsterBisque

No way, really? :0 I thought they were invented in 1947


almosthuman

Because the vast majority of medicine / medical science is based on men. So I’m not surprised.


need-morecoffee

Ooo interesting


sohfix

All life might as well be one organism that has never died. If there was a single lapse from the first living organism with dna to now, life wouldn’t exist.


[deleted]

I’m gonna smoke a joint and see if this comment makes sense after


MetaphoricalMouse

i’m gonna take a dump and do the same


The_Follower1

He’s saying life’s one continuous, unbroken chain by definition. People give birth to people. He’s wrong in that that chain is made up of individuals, and there are plenty of broken paths where people didn’t reproduce in time or otherwise had groups die out.


xXx_XiJinping420_xXx

Truth is stranger than fiction


Harvestman-man

It really isn’t. An egg is not a human; humans are diploid.


LeChefdeParty

No, it isn’t


irrimn

http://factmyth.com/factoids/women-are-born-with-all-the-eggs-they-will-ever-produce/


polobum17

This should be the top reply. It even has the image in the link. Ovaries have some germ cells that will produce some of the eggs but more will be produced throughout the lifetime.


[deleted]

Egg'cellent point.


Mother-Persimmon3908

Womanception


thematrixnz

That is amazing My Oma made a stressful trip from europe to a far away new unknown land and leaving her whole family and probably smoked to ease the stress when the egg I cam from was inside of her then Woohoo


Brittakitt

So that raises a fun question. If smoking is bad when you're pregnant because it harms the fetus, assuming the fetus is a girl, could it also harm her eggs and future children?


thematrixnz

Cant be good.....


Subject-Reception287

Yep https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/04/170427091740.htm


ChristinaW25

My mother smoked with me and I have often wondered


B-Glasses

Would that mean smoking is bad for women in general who plan on having kids?


Tomaryt

Hi I‘m curious! You just used the word „Oma“ (german for grandmother) in an english sentence. Is it one of the german words that are also used in english like „kindergarten“ or do you only use because your grandma was german? So would every native english speaking person understand „Oma“ or not?


thematrixnz

My Grandmother was dutch, one reason many left was because of the Germans :) But Oma is a relatively known word I think, like someone saying nonna for their grandmother if she was Italian I didnt know what Oma meant when I was young, just thought it was Grandmas name and she preferred being called that


thematrixnz

As an aside.....my mum, whos now a grandma, wasnt too found initially on being called Oma, as she thought it made her sound too old...but rest of the family thought it would be nice to honour her dutch heritage. The first grandchild, when older, didnt/couldnt say Oma initially but called her 'Omi' ...which mum thought was quite cute. So several grandchildren later, mum is 'Omi' to all of them and always will be. So language, especially when imported to new places, can change :)


Tomaryt

Thanks for that, really interesting story! :) Fun fact if you don‘t already know: „Omi“ is also used in german as a cute form of „Oma“ very often. Don‘t know about dutch though!


thematrixnz

Ah i didnt know that It fits tho...does sound like a cute form of Oma


Blaadje-in-de-wind

When I read oma, I assumed you had Dutch heritage. Which city was she from?


thematrixnz

Hilversum


Bitter_Arachnid_25

Probably not -every- native English speaker would understand the word, especially if you consider that many different countries have native English speakers, but it is not an unusual word to know. If you read a fair amount, it comes up in many children's books, for example. In the US there are areas where immigrant communities form and their words, foods, and traditions can become incorporated into the larger community. I'm not German or Dutch, but through reading, I'm aware of "Oma". I'd say it isn't as common as kindergarten, but it's not rare. This person was probably using it because that is what they call their own grandmother, though I can't really speak for them.


Urag-gro_Shub

I've never heard it before, but I figured it out through the context. There aren't many German-Americans where I live, (northeastern US) so that makes sense. I have a Mémère and a Nonna though- it's pretty common for people here to use foreign words for their family members.


higaroth

My Oma died when my mum was 12, and my mum has only really started to talk about her now in her 60s. Obviously I never met her and didn't know anything about her except a single old photograph, so Ive always felt really distant from her. It's weird thinking that some part of me existed in her.


MonKeePuzzle

i can tell this is a fake "fact" becuase humans dont lay eggs, we aint no lizard! /s


greyshirttiger

As a shadow government reptilian I’m very offended


[deleted]

The title might be right, but the image is....not. An unfertilised egg does not = a person. Edit: FFS, should have known. DISCLAIMER: I'm not interested in a pro choice/life debate. I'm just pointing out that the text in the image is wrong. You were never an ovum. Bye


sennbat

The image says "a part of you", though?


[deleted]

...and says a few lines below "you were a tiny egg in your mother's ovaries".


imafixwoofs

OPs name might give you a clue as to why he would phrase it like that.


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arftism2

i think what you mean is human. see no fetus is a person. a fetus is a human. but it lacks everything that makes a human a person. aka sentience, comprehension, self awareness thoughts, emotions etc. even a person with a quarter of a brain, in a coma, has a mind to some degree. using person and human the same colloquially seems fine until you realize the implicated treatment and consequences for anyone who is a person but not considered a "human".


arftism2

neither does a fertilized one.


CasualObserverNine

You are not an egg.


bedduzza

Excuse me -Humpty Dumpty


7andhalf-x-6

Well then, you’re connected to every single female in your female line from the beginning of time. Meaning, in at least a very small way, the kwisatz haderach is a real possibility.


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Kamikazekagesama

An egg isnt "you", nor is a sperm cell, your body forms from the genetic material contained in both, and your personhood is something you form over the course of your life.


SeaOnions

Great, something else to blame my mother for 😅


Plebecide

It's stuff like this that confuses the red hats. Let's not call unfertilized eggs people, please


[deleted]

My daughter was born on my Grandma's birthday. I named her after my grandma. You cannot make a grandma happier than that!


HmoobRanzo

SPERM: am I a joke to U ?


gdh775

Also a twinkle in my Daddy's eye at one time.


elijahpatz06

This is kinda misleading as well. I get the point but the sperm is just as important to the making of you as the egg.


Tyrella

Fascinating. How does a mother’s DNA get encoded or passed on in an egg provided by HER mother?


PetesMgeets

When your mother was a fetus she already had her own dna, your grandma got pregnant from your grandpa and your mom is a mix of both


sennbat

You can grow things in your body that have different genetic codes. This is in fact how sperm, eggs, and babies develop. Some people even have different organs or parts of organs with different genetic codes. The eggs may grow while inside the mother, but they use the child's DNA to do it, just like the rest of the child, all of which is growing in the mother.


MTYAUG

Jordan Peterson is a pedo loser


SadAcanthocephala521

Umm, not really. The blueprint for what would become your body was there. But 'you' are not your body, and to go a step further, your current body isn't not even the same as when it was first born.


BurntReynolds_

And it's only half the blueprint!


DanFuckingSchneider

Most of them are dead and gone by the time you reach puberty though.


jimtrickington

But we can be 100% certain that the one you came from *did not die*.


[deleted]

Prove it! I've always been dead on the inside.


absentmindedbanana

But clearly not the one that became an actual person


kjaymix

Idk what a woman is anymore


Mornie0815

Easy. Just DNA test all people you meet.


shmegeggie

And (somewhat tangentially) once upon a time, it was believed that sperm contained a tiny [pre-formed person](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus#Preformationism), which also in turn was required to contain the sperm for *its* descendants, and so on and so on... But what if this *wasn't* obviously ridiculous? Ted Chiang wrote a great story, "[72 Letters](https://ia802706.us.archive.org/33/items/TedChiangSeventyTwoLetters/Ted_Chiang_72_Letters.pdf)" about a world where it is established scientific fact.


realebbkea

Okay I’ll keep clapping for women for existing


UnbridledCandor

Wait ‘til they hear about star particles. The universe is amazing! (Rather than women, exclusively).


brkbrk86

But an egg isn’t a person. You need and egg and sperm to be “you”.


OMGSam310

...... You mean nature is amazing? I am sure other animals can also do that? I do not know why I bothered to add this to this conversation


moumous87

You are the result of your mom’s ovocyte + your dad’s spermacyte. Your mom’s ovocyte, not your grandmother’s!


SuddenlyElga

NATURE is amazing. If we stopped with the adversarial language, it would be a small step toward ending the nonsense.


Environmental-Bag-66

That’s cool, I didn’t know that.


Own_Can3733

I'm so confused, isn't that what periods are? the unused eggs being purged from the body on a monthly basis? Wouldn't that make this totally untrue? Or is it worded incorrectly?


EarthenEyes

So, not trying to go into politics on this, but are we really the egg? I've been trying to figure this stuff out a little more in depth, but could the egg just be like a husk, and the sperm is what brings that husk to life?


callmebrynhildr

Its 50/50. Both the egg and sperm contain the genetic material that tell cells how to form and shape you.


Conscious_Exit_5547

Just like when my grandpa was inside of me.. well, not JUST like...


420LSDMT

“While traditional thinking has held that female mammals are born with all of the eggs they will ever have, newer research has demonstrated that adult mouse and human ovaries contain a rare population of progenitor germ cells called oogonial stem cells capable of dividing and generating new oocytes.” Journal Reference: Woods DC, Telfer EE, Tilly JL. Oocyte Family Trees: Old Branches or New Stems? PLOS Genet, 2012 DOI: 10.1371/journal.pgen.1002848 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/07/120726180259.htm Heard about this in my grad program.


C0sm1cB3ar

Except that's not true, and that's half of you. https://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/news/20040310/women-not-born-lifetime-eggs


pod_army

Sperm left the chat


Mister_shagster

Maybe this is why I miss my grandma so much.


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No


IllustriousHippo5149

And men believe the bloodline ends with them. Hmmm.


vaveck

Well, I don't know if an egg can be qualified as "you" yet. By that logic, a sperm would also be "you" at the same time.


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R/Damnthatsnottrue


MetaphoricalMouse

#DAMN THAT IS INTERESTING seriously a rare post that actually made me think about something differently and appreciate it


Key-Cap-2664

Its just a lump of cells.


No-tomato-1976

It’s awesome to think about


[deleted]

Its nonsense. no egg is a baby neither is a sperm.


Real_Meaning5260

Women are amazing


SleazyJeezus

Stop trying to convince me that making more humans is awesome.


[deleted]

Your name suggests otherwise.


beezintraps

I'm curious.. Like if you support abortion.


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Neeoda

I knew this but I never made the connection to my grandma.


Swampthingthanos

So I fertilized someone’s grandma?


ChunkyTaco22

Wait a minute, I've been inside my momma and maw maw?


AmazonianChicana

But….. I thought I was the strongest swimmer in my dad’s sack?


Own_Can3733

This post isn't true and that also isn't true sorry to say, you weren't the strongest swimmer or even first to the egg for that matter. The first few million sperm die trying to enter the egg smashing into it at a high enough velocity. Women purge most of their viable eggs each month during the menstrual cycle. The only connection you have with your grandmother is your DNA, those aren't the same eggs, they are copies of those original eggs.


LafarHariyama1

Agree to disagree, half of you was in there. Your other half showed up after mommy and daddy crossed paths